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Discussion Thread: Disgustology (REVULSION) is live!  (Patreon)

Published:
2024-03-27 19:14:52
Edited:
2024-03-27 19:30:39
Imported:
2026-06

Content

EDIT for clarity: this post is NOT a call for questions! We already recorded this in JUNE, and the episode is finally up and live today!

Did you listen? Let. Us. Disgus.

We cover everything from butterflies to bigotry, whether disgust is nature vs. nurture, kinks, neurodivergence, how to overcome disgust, and how disgust is even measureed. Also: where to smell a dead person at the mall, in case you’re curious. 

This one is so weird and dare I say fun and I’m pretty proud of us. Also a special interlude in a park where your podmother and I see if our Disgust Scales are compatible. 

Did you listen? What did you think? 

Side-eyeing the ketchup,

Alie Dadward

Files

Disgustology (REPULSION TO GROSS STUFF) with Dr. Paul Rozin - alie ward

Taboos. Intolerable foods. Sad songs. Sexy kinks. Candy that looks like poo. Let's get a little gross, shall we? The foremost expert in disgust, Dr. Paul Rozin, chats about the emotions related to revulsion - and BOY HOWDY do we cover some ground. Why do some things gross us out and others don't?

Comments

Margaret Downs

Oh I absolutely agree it was fun and weird in the best way! I did cackle aloud at "hotdogs have buttholes in them" and Dr. Rozin's resulting confusion.

Theodore Wolfe

I know it sounds strange but I’ve always wondered why holes disgust me! I have trypophobia and anytime I see a bunch of wholes or repeating patterns (ie wasp nest) I want to throw up.

Natalie Rousseau

Why do I gag like that though? What I’m really curious about is why certain things trigger disgust and others don’t. I can’t stand Feet. I also can’t stand when people make fake throw up noises because it makes me want to throw up. It’s also totally unnecessary to make fake throw up noises. We all know whatever it is is gross so stop being dramatic. I’m also curious about changing threshold for disgust. I may or may not be a therapist in a prison and I may or may not have noticed my threshold for revulsion has changed over the time of my employment.

Adrien WikiSleep Sala

Can revulsion be subconscious or grow from experiences? I once had a serious battle with two parasites and an amoeba all at the same time while travelling. I was sick for about six months and lost almost 60 pounds, down from 190 to 130 or so. The infections came from poopy water on food, as far as we can tell. Ever since, I get nauseous when having to do things like pick up dog poop. Even if I think about a poop I saw on my dog walk it can trigger the nausea. Apologies for the shittiness of the question (ba-dum) but Is this a learned response? I don't feel afraid of it, but my body certainly doesn't love poop. Is this a biological protection? Where does it come from?

Alie Ward

AHAHA! Right? I loved that part.

Alie Ward

We do cover some phobias, and Exposure Prevention Response therapy!

Gemma

why do some things, like pimple popping, disgust some while they satisfy others?

Alie Ward

We do cover acclimating to sources of disgust! I mention a few papers Dr. Rozin has written on it in med students...

Gemma

is disgusting synonymous with hatred?

Natalie Rousseau

Excuse me while I realize this is a discussion thread and not a questions thread. I got excited. Let’s just say I had a day 😂

Alie Ward

Oh, we already recorded this LAST summer right before my pneumonia! The episode is finally live!

Alie Ward

We didn't cover this, but it's a good question!

Alie Ward

No, it's been MONTHS so I know folks forgot about it!

Alie Ward

Also it's been a DAY for me too, and I definitely thought you were a therapist who has been incarcerated, and I was wondering how fast the wifi was in there.

Alie Ward

I hope you like it! I'm weirdly proud of this one. It's VERY weird.

Natalie Rousseau

I get to go home thank the universe!! And it depends if you are on a state tablet or a contraband cell phone. 😂

Naomi Jane

I found the parts on relief theory really interesting!

Paige

I was trying to cuddle up with my 1-year-old nephew, but he had some boogers and seeing them kept making me gag. Why do his nose pellets do that when I'm done with seeing my own in the mirror?

Lillian Rolfe

This episode was a DELIGHT. I’m going to make sure my sister listens. *evil grin*. Her husband is a cyto and forensic pathologist and has done autopsies on some very not freshly deceased human bodies while working with the coroner’s office, and yet used to gag when one of their children’s diaper needed changing. He claimed it was work brain vs home brain. My sister was not amused. He does have some wonderfully funny and disgusting stories and I’m thinking a dark sense of humor is necessary for his job. Though not so welcome at the Thanksgiving table.

Oren Simchy

That some body horror simultaneously draws me in and repulses me to my core, still really bothers me. lol

Nicole Jouas

My client walked into the room right when kink was brought up and I was both disappointed because I was so eager for that part, and proud of that clients timing. Cant wait to continue on my drive home!!

Joey Zweig

This episode me me realize that I walk around in life PRETENDING to be disgusted by certain things every day. Like don’t get me wrong, I am disgusted by things (saliva, so so gross) but there are many things (like the example of a cockroach running across food) that I have noticed other people find gross and at some point made the unconscious decision to pretend that I too, am grossed out by those things. Turns out I just have a different level of disgust sensitivity. And I found it really interesting to consider the things I find logically or morally disgusting vs the things I am repulsed by (seemingly) without reason. Anyways great episode!!

Joey Zweig

Oh also, Jake’s last name is pronounced like Chayfee. I fear he may be far too amicable to ever make that correction.

Lynette Dávila

Can I just say women have 8 holes. Loving the episode!

Alie Ward

Ohhhhhh nooooooo! Thank you so much for telling me!!! Xoxoxox

Alie Ward

Aaaahahah! I was doing the last pass edit on it, silently counted and went “fuck!”

Rachel Cannon

This was a fun one! Dr. Rozin's straightforwardness and general lack of frivolity surrounding his field of study kept cracking me up ("Well you can't make something out of holes....")

Jadine Lannon

"neutral hole" is officially how I'm going to describe various parts of my body from now on

Nicole Robb

I’ve worked at a Dog daycare for 3 years and I can tell you which dog belongs to which poop. I pick up multiple poops every day! (My social media handles are literally the poop scooper) But if one of the dogs licks me or I see slobber gob I get the physical heebee jeebees!

Teale Vee

Love this Ologist and his simple but great explanations. He was having so much fun, and so was I! Another great non disgusting episode Dadward

Scott Hanley

Has anyone else seen the STYROFOAM disgust post on social media? The woman cannot say the word without wretching. “Styro- blaugh…”

Margaret Downs

Ooh same. Mine isn't necessarily body-horror-specific but I totally get the feeling. I can't *not* look but I always regret it.

Margaret Downs

Kind of same! My worst disgust trigger is mold/rotting things, which has always struck me as kind of weird evolutionarily when there are things it would be "worse" for me to interact with (as in, more likely to make me ill). Obviously I'm not going around handling bodily fluids with my bare hands, but they're more "logically disgusting" as you so succinctly put it, in that they don't elicit the same throat-closing-stomach-dropping response as when I find burger buns I forgot about in the back of my pantry.

Emma Wren

Super interesting episode as always, and what happened right after I finished listening was very appropriate. While taking a shower and washing my face with a flannel, a cockroach promptly fell out of said flannel My disgust rating: moderate That cockroach's sense of comedic timing: excellent

Susan G

This episode was an actual study in disgust, because there were some parts I had to skip over because they grossed me out too much, and other things I was just 'this is fine', even if I was having a snack. Fascinating!

Staci Pinkowitz

hell yea this dude fucking rocks. his voice is amazing and perfect for what he was talking about

Chris Moore

So interesting!!! I loved this episode!! Also, the transition from The Golden Rule to golden showers is masterful and Pulitzer-worthy 💛🚿

Britt Carp

I saw the hot dog episode of How It’s Made in 2008 and literally haven’t eaten one since!

hanareadsalot

Avoided ingesting anything through the interview, thought I'd be safe for the secret... Terrible idea on my part! Fascinating episode though!

The Awkward Cactus

THANK YOU for bringing up OCD! I battled with it since childhood and didn’t get an official diagnosis until 26 years old. I had spent time in psychiatric centers and struggled my entire life and nobody knew what was wrong with me. I have relationship OCD (and a few others for some razzle dazzle) which made me live in a prison in my mind my entire life up until this point. It was all mental compulsions - I am not a neat freak by any means (my pile of laundry is staring at me as we speak). Rumination, constant googling of things, and reassurance seeking were my main compulsions. I actually BROKE UP with my ex as a compulsion. Once I was finally diagnosed I jumped right into exposure therapy. I only feel as though I’ve been truly living MY life for the past 3 years

Nancy Gleason

Fascinating to think about different people's varying levels of disgust over the same item. I am recalling different roommates who have a different threshold of bathroom filth before someone finally breaks down and does the cleaning for all of us. I did not physically gag at anything in the episode until the mention of eating actual human flesh, although the secret at the end was probably in second place for most disgusting scenario. I HATE flies in my house [shudder]; they can have the whole outdoor world.

Gordon Haas

I'm a boomer (74) who grew up to be relatively immune to most disgusting things. My Dad was a meat inspector for about 10 years when I was in Elementary through Middle School, and I used to get to go with him in the summers, watching cows and pigs get slaughtered. They have to get bled out, skinned, and have their internal organs removed. Trust me, if I hadn't been immune, that would easily have been too disgusting for me.

Gordon Haas

Then he became a veterinarian, where I helped doing everything from cleaning cages to being a scrubbed surgical assistant. Pet pee and poo does not bother me.

Gordon Haas

This is a plus for my 24 year old trans grandchild, who gets squicked out when 1 of our cats hacks up a hairball. They are glad I am OK to clean it up.

Keerat Singh

I enjoyed taking the digust quiz mentioned in the podcast with my friends

Sophia A

Re OCD and cleanliness vs disgust: I have to bring up that hoarding is a form of OCD! The misconception that OCD = meticulously clean is both harmful and inaccurate. Thank you for talking about this!!

Sophia A

Also, as a nursing student, my classmates and I have very different skills/things/fluids that gross us out and it’s always interesting to see what grosses out one person and not another

James Nance

I feel like most ketchup is just high fructose corn syrup... Still gross on vanilla ice cream. Blegh.

Raja

Alie, I really had to ready myself to listen to this one. I bypassed it on several occasions because I wasn't in a state of mind to potentially take in the visuals of what would be shared. But, walking to the subway from work today, through parking lots in an industrial setting (the space mattered for my readiness), I took the plunge. While listening, 20 minutes in..., 30 minutes in..., I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop. But as the episode was nearing its end, I remarked to myself (in my head) that nothing in it made me feel ugh! My preconceived notions of how it would play out were unfounded! I was delighted. I thought it would be gross on gross on gross and it was completely bearable! Great guest to boot! I especially respect what he said about his vegetarian perspective at the end too. So, thank you for making this episode and thank you for not going over the top. Enjoyable and easily recommendable! Edit: I should clarify that I am a self-diagnosed selective germophobe (if there is such a thing), but mental prep, and more, can help me deal with things. I have different places for my clothes in my apartment depending on where I will wear them. Yup! That might offer helpful context for my response to this episode. 🙂

GhoulNextDoor

This episode was fascinating! I feel like learned a lot about myself 😂 I’m excited to take the disgust quiz now! I don’t think I’m an easily disgusted person at all but the idea of spit reeeeally gets me, even my own. How does that make sense because it’s supposed to be there!? It’s just so fascinating! Humans are so interesting

Diane Heise

I think as a mother of 4 grandmother of 8 it takes a lot to disgust me. Although since having Covid, I can’t tolerate beans of any sort. As a vegetarian that makes life a little harder.

The Awkward Cactus

ALSO I’m a dental hygienist so I am not grossed out easily at all

fullmetalknee

But my husband and I have been doing the Hot Ones challenge each season they release the new set

Sydney Koenig

Loved this episode!! I would love to hear an episode about OCD, there are so many intricacies and stigmas to the disorder and I feel like you, Allie, would be the perfect person to explore that!

Beth Langford

Just wanted to share some of the stuff going on in the brain for OCD. My dad has long had a crippling OCD and it had always frustrated me until I realised how it develops. When I was a teenager disgust overwhelmed me so strongly that I put pillow cases on everything I sat on and constantly washed myself and anything that would touch my bed. After rationalising around this, those ingrained habits eventually stopped. However, when getting my own place with things and a person I cared about, new intrusive thoughts developed around the safety of these things. Sometimes my body has the same response and my brain has the same cycling thoughts as those linked with social anxiety. The same thoughts keep returning - “Is it turned off? Will my house flood? Will my partner get run over? Will someone rob my house if I don’t check a third time? Did I REALLY close the fridge?” It feels overwhelming and like the most important thing in the world. And if someone interrupts the thought pattern that you feel you need to go through to feel safe then you need to begin again. It’s sometimes easy to mask this with friends over by forgetting something or using the bathroom to collect your thoughts. And I often joke about it with my partner - we’ve both checked the oven switch a few times and still we’re blinking at it as though it’s about to change because you sure can’t trust your brain…