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Discussion thread: Coffeeology episode is published! (Patreon)

Published:
2024-09-04 05:54:13
Imported:
2026-06

Content

New episode this week: COFFEE. It’s published and available wherever you get podcasts. 

Even if you’re not a  coffee drinker, this episode with Peter Giuliano – the executive director of the Coffee Science Foundation – is thick with history, folklore, botany, cold brew, cappuccinos, cat butts, and lessons on why you should just like what you like. 

Have you listened yet? Let’s discuss in the comments below. Also, tell me how you take your coffee, or your favorite beans. 

Raising a cup, 

Ol’ Dadward

Files

Coffeeology (YEP, COFFEE) with Peter Giuliano - alie ward

When did coffee get into our mouths? Who's right when it comes to the best coffee? What's the most ethical way to enjoy it? What about the cats that eat the beans? How will climate change affect your morning coffee?

Comments

Doug Stewart

First question, what dark sorcery makes my brain so gosh darn happy when I drink this thing? Second question, what’s my best choice if I know I like coffee but want to try more coffees from different places? Maybe find out what origin is my favorite?

Alie Ward

Hey there! The episode is published! We did the call for questions a few weeks back. :)

Alexolotl

Currently listening right now!! I'm unsure if this is torture or cathartic as i have to avoid coffee while i clear an infection, but I'm still loving it!!

Alie Ward

I hope you can soothe yourself after with listening to the axolotl episode again!

Alexolotl

You're totally right, i was SO JAZZED for that episode! ♥️

Aych

i think my favorite beans are green beans :3

Lady_Marzipan

Going to go make myself a cup while I listen to the episode ☕️

Sara

Chocolatey/nutty roasts and an Aeropress. 🤌🏻

Henry

Coffee is the single MOST important food group. I typically drink it black, but a cappuccino now and then is nice.... as is the occasional splash of whisky.

Rachel Prestayko

Can you use coffee to self-medicate? I've heard it can help with ADD/ADHD, but I don't know if that's a myth!

mynameisaurien

What a delightful episode and what an enthusiastic guest! I wasn’t expecting to learn about the history of coffee and it totally filled my bucket while waiting for a very delayed bus at the end of a long day! Takeaways; 1. Coffee is African (as all good things are) 2. Colonizers suck—continued confirmation 3. Coffee doesn’t have to taste like dirt or burnt rubber 4. Humans will roast almost anything and try to eat it 5. Coffee has alot of stamps on her passport! 6. Coffee can taste like floral and / or grassy teas—and become much more interesting to me 7. I will never pay $600 for a pound of pooped seeds Thanks again for another amazingly interesting episode!

Brittany Shafis

Told my cat that like my coffee, he also has fruity notes. Such a fun episode

Zuleika Pevec

Oh, coffee, my bitter mistress. I used to like it as dark and strong as possible…then I started going to a cafe whose proprietor and coffee roaster was a true connoisseur. Over time he won me over to the medium roasts with single origin beauties and explanations on why burnt (ie dark) roasts are no good. I am a true convert and wonder how I could ever have drunk that swill.

Yuri

Olympia coffee roasters!! They don't let their beans mold, which many places do. So there's no mycotoxins. I can't do regular coffee, but I can do theirs. Plus I love a really dark strong cup of coffee, and they have a really dark roast still full of amazing flavor that I absolutely adore.

Yuri

My favorite coffee joke: if you make a hot soy milk latte with vanilla and espresso, is it actually three bean soup? 😁🤭

Patrick Duffy

Alie, what is your favorite green tea? I am also more of a tea person.

Ree McPee

I love this kind of episode. I don’t really drink coffee, don’t like the taste, but who knew I would find this so fascinating? The science facts, the interesting history, ah, *chef’s kiss*! My kids always comment that Alie and I seem so similar, but today I definitely discovered a difference. Tire shops? Seriously? 😆 I won’t yuck your yum, but that rubbery odor is definitely not my jam!

Katie Hultman

I just started the episode but thanks, Alie, for the reminder to pay my car registration. 😅

Scientifically Lily

Thought the honeymoon phenomenon was cool. I met my Fiancé at a coffee shop. I liked the coffee shop before I met him there but who knows maybe it made me love it more lol.

Scientifically Lily

Coffee is a trigger for my interstitial cystitis ( painful bladder syndrome). Didn’t know people had to avoid it with infections ! Sometimes I endure the pain for it though 😫

Keerat Singh

I loved the mention of goat folklore!

Abby Sellers

You can use caffeine to self-medicate for ADHD! but it is very non-specific, so the results can vary. Nicotine use is also common in unmedicated ADHD patients. Not a myth. -Nurse Practitioner with ADHD

Kieran H

Listening to how Peter makes his pour over just cemented how unrefined my own pour over is. Step 1: Boil water to Hot. Step 2: Use pre-ground coffee. I like Seattle’s Best Coffee Henry’s Blend because it has a cat on the bag. Also because it doesn’t seem to upset my stomach. But mostly the cat. Step 3: Dump coffee directly from bag into paper filter in the pour-over thingy. Measure with your heart. Step 4: Pour water over the coffee with minimal art or finesse. Sometimes pour in too much and overflow your cup. Step 5: Pour in a liberal amount of fake vanilla coffee creamer Step 6: Guzzle

Emily Krieger

this was so fun and I learned a lot about my fave bevvie! Stumptown nitro cold brew is nothing to underestimate for sure! Also, my favorite aside was talking about 90s coffeehouse couches smelling like farts. Nailed it.

Tania Magic Fingers

Another great one. No surprise there! The history was so interesting. I had a vague idea about the Dutch East Indies company's role but not to what extent the coffee bean/berry/plant (:)) played a role in world wide commerce and politics. Great listen.

abtrube

I’m as addicted to -ologies as much as I’m addicted to caffeine.

Mina Emily Cox

To answer your questions, first copied from Google: Caffeine is a stimulant, which means it increases activity in your brain and nervous system. It also increases the circulation of chemicals such as cortisol and adrenaline in the body. In small doses, caffeine can make you feel refreshed and focused. And second, try to find a roaster that you like and test the selection they have.

Diana Staresinic-Deane

This episode was fantastic. Our ologist is right...my husband and I enjoyed coffee from Blacksmith Coffee when we vacationed in Lindsborg, Kansas, and now the bougiest thing I do is ship bags of it to my house every two months. I wish I had thought to ask my burning question...how much am I degrading my coffee by letting it sit in the coffee maker over night, ready for me to stumble into the kitchen and press the start button in the morning?

Mini Minnie

Mostly because of the cat 👍🏼

Mariann

Alie Ward I am so sorry for the loss of your friend. For the planet I am sorry for our loss of someone so passionate about his 21 museums, Jack London & then Jack London's wife and his contagious wonder of keeping the past set firmly in the present..

Renee Wanger

Very cool, did not know there was (so much) legit research into coffee!! Now I want to go read books about coffee :) also, Can we get a tea episode sometime in the future?

Taylor campbell

If anyone is looking for an ethical and delicious coffee company to support (that also happens to donate ALL profits to charity) I highly recommend the Awesome Coffee Club. Started by author/philanthropist John Green (and brother of previous ologist Hank Green) I am a tenured barista and can personally attest to its incredible taste. Sold at Good.Store

Andrew McVay

I loved this episode. Great detail and easy to absorb. I worked in coffee shops for three years between high school and university, have roasted my own, completed a food science degree and moved on from coffee to tea… and really enjoyed the interview. Always something new to learn especially from balanced Q&A. Keep up the good work!

Wandering Wyatt

Such a fun episode! Thank you so much. A follow up for anyone interested is Michael Pollan’s audiobook called Caffeine. Digs more into the history and how it’s impacted civilization. Like the honeymoon effect - I always find a good cup of coffee is super comforting when you’re not at home. Example - took my Aeropress with me while working at sea doing field work and it was amazing - just a little comfort from home (plus most ship coffee is shite). This episode also tells me that we should drink whatever coffee makes our beautiful selves happy. I used to be all about cream and sugar and now just black (after coming home from Vietnam - haha). I drink dark roast drip with weighed beans and put non-espresso beans in my bean -to-cup espresso maker. And I love them both.

James Nance

Oh my God the "We did it Joe!" sound bite made me snort laugh

Magsaroni

Listening to this episode without a cup of coffee in my hand was a mistake. It made me crave one soooo badly!

Camille L

I absolutely LOVED this episode. It was so fascinating. And as I was listening to it, I harvested 26 cherries from my coffee tree. I’ve had him for 8 years and he decided to fruit just this year! Just enough beans for one cup. Anyway, it was awesome. Thank you and the Ologies team for all your hard work! You guys rock 🤘

Tim Curry

This episode BLEW MY MIND. Thank you thank you thank you.

Caroline Fox

Currently vacationing in the outer banks and (of course) went to the aquarium. Connected with a SUPER RAD aquarium guide over nerdy things and our mutual love of Ologies. I WAS SO STOKED.

Alie Ward

Oh I loooove an aeropress! We have one too! How satisfying is it to pop put the puck afterward? As long as you don't throw the grid thing in the trash

Alie Ward

I have heard of people using nicotine pouches for ADHD, but I imagine nicotine dependence can be dicey!

Alie Ward

"Humans will roast almost anything and try to eat it" aahahaha, so true! Thank you for that summary! I'm so glad you liked it -- it was a joy to make!

Alie Ward

I wonder if it will ever come back in style! I mean, people are bringing back low rise with whale tails, so...

Alie Ward

Oooooh, hot tip! Thank you Yuri Beauty!

Brittany Shafis

🧡🧡🧡 he is purring very happily right now!!

Alie Ward

I usually opt for the daily drinker of Yama Moto Yama or Ito-En matcha from an Asian market, though Kirkland at Coscto sells a giant box of 100 Ito En bags for like $15. But a nice grassy sencha is always my fave. Gen Maicha if I need something wintery and nutty. You??

Alie Ward

It's so nostalgic! Following my dad to the tool section of Sears and sniffing the tire racks!

Alie Ward

What kind of coffee might you have on your honeymoon? Also Jarrett Podmother and I have been married 3 years and still haven't been on one!

Alie Ward

Wasn't that great! Peter really delivered!

Alie Ward

Gunna make an apron that says "Measure with your heart"

Alie Ward

I mean, RIGHT??? Lactose cushions for days

Alie Ward

I had no idea the extent of their power. BONKERS.

Alie Ward

That's why we have to put it out weekly. People could get headaches.

Alie Ward

I'm sure it's fine!!! And that's so sweet that you have a favorite coffee from a vaction!

Alie Ward

What a wonderful dude -- I still am in disbelief. I hope you enjoyed his episode. <3

Alie Ward

Yes! Tisanology is on my list! Any suggestions for good people?

Alie Ward

Thank you so so much for this link! I didn't know they did this!

Alie Ward

Isn't it fun to have that context? I learned so much this episode!

Alie Ward

We do need a tea episode! I'm on it.

Alie Ward

How was the coffee in Vietnam? Did you have it black or with sugar and cream there?

Alie Ward

Thank you so so much for appreciating it.

Alie Ward

I hope you enjoyed your next one, Mags!

Alie Ward

Amazing!!! How was it? And what do you do with the cascara?

Alie Ward

Awww, yay! I love that! Another ologite in the wild!

Mariann

I most definitely have and I have listened to it a few times. I'm also listening to Ologies for a 3rd time so you can say I like all of the episodes. They help me tremendously. So thank you.

Wandering Wyatt

All the ways. Plus with condensed milk. Plus iced. Plus “egg coffee” - which is a taste experience like no other. Sweeter than I would normally like but absolutely amazing.

Henry

Oh, full fat all the way!

Davis Born

Finally got a chance to listen to this episode and came here to say the Jones inside Vromans was one of my favorite places to hang out in Pasadena for years until that location closed. I moved out of Pas last year and it was nice to hear Jones get a shout out. Thinking of your friend Bruce and my heart goes out to his family

Paulina Krasińska-Sroka

Oh boy, I went the same path -single with instant coffee to buying my own beans with a husband 😂 In the process, my partner also gently took away my habit of putting sugar in it. Every day he'd make me his good coffee, and unbeknownst to me put ever so slightly less sugar in it, until one day he asked: "How's your coffee? Good?", to which I replied that yes, it's how I like it. And that's when I learned that my "usual" 3 spoonfuls of sugar weren't there in days 😆 Anyway, now I'm cherishing a tiny can of specially beans from equally tiny cafe-roaster in Lisbon, Portugal, that I've brought back from holiday and that tastes like nothing I've ever had. But my everyday coffee doesn't have to be artisanal 😂 I'll take any South American arabica and pour milk in it 🤷‍♀️

Angellica Stanley

Going to be in Pasadena for the first time this March for APHL LabCon. I’d like to know which Jones Coffee Roasters what mentioned in the secret at the end of this episode. Looks like there are two locations. If anyone could tell me I’d appreciate it! Thank you :)