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Discussion thread: EL NIÑO episode is published! (Patreon)

Published:
2026-09-16 22:19:02
Imported:
2026-09

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*This episode is published and ready to hear wherever you get podcasts. Let's talk about it.*

Now that we primed you with the encore of Meteorology with Dr. Marshall Shepherd last week, here is a piping hot new recording fresh from Athens, Georgia. We reunited and sat down to talk about El Niño and what's on the horizon for winter 2026. We also discuss that freaky “strategic retreat” (?!?!?) from the UN that dropped last week.

Okay did you listen? Let's TALK below.

Digging out my umbrella,

Your father in Pod,

Alison Ann

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Extreme Meteorology (EL NIÑO) with Dr. Marshall Shepherd - alie ward

El Niño. La Niña. United Nations Environment Programme doomerism? It's been a helluva week for Meteorologists and the humans who live on planet Earth, so we made you a fresh episode recorded just days ago with our favorite climate scientist, professor, author, and Weather Geeks podcast hos

Comments

Kelsey C

This was a great episode, and a bit of a wake up call, too. There were several instances where I found myself muttering aloud, 'oh, sh*t 😨'., after factoids about weather trends, rising water temps, etc., were dropped. This El Niño is not to be taken lightly. It also made me realize that I'm not as prepared for extreme weather events as I'd like to be. I'm now researching residential powerbanks in case we lose electricity from winds/rain/debris, and am making a plan for what to do if a bad storm hits at night. 🔦 Thank you for the expertise!

Alie Ward

Thanks for listening! As a West Coaster, I really did NOT realize how global the impacts will be. So thanks for paying attention!

Amy Miller

I'm going to listen to this on my way home from work tonight - I'm in Aotearoa New Zealand, so we're about to head into our summer. Having seen what summer was like for the Northern Hemisphere, I'm less than excited! I may melt.

Brain 🧠 Shenanigans

A+ all around. I wish it was a two-parter! One just isn’t enough! The discussion on agriculture really got my wheels spinning tho. Is there an ology about food sustainability, especially in the wake of El Niño and global warming as a whole? Or was there one and I just forgot about it because there’s so many episodes lol. Or would it be like a combination of multiple ologies? In any case, I’m sure I’m not the only one who would like to hear a deep dive on food sustainably.

Kelsey C

I live in Ireland and this winter/spring was the worst we've had in my memory. There were places that recorded measurable rain every single day from January 1 through mid-February 🙃 some places saw 255% above average rainfall. And then in the summer we had extended water conservation efforts from July 16th to today, September 16th because the temperatures were unseasonably high, we had little to no rain, and the water supply was dangerously low. Ireland is normally a mild climate, but it's rapidly changing. I don't even want to guess what this El Niño will bring...

JuniperRose

This is a great idea for an episode. I did a seminar with a round table in college on sustainable agriculture about 10 years ago. We haven't made any strides forward on climate resilient agriculture in the US since then. We're screwed.

foughtthelaw

There was a lot to give me pause in that episode, but I'm also on the west coast and when he said that folks should have a disaster plan in place, it gave me a bit of pause. I'm obviously going to be hyper fixating on this for a few days, but are there any episodes in the backlog on disaster preparedness? And if not, maybe a real good idea for a near future episode?

Mads

I'd love an episode on sustainable agriculture/food supply too!

Tiara Muhr

The "Would You Rather" question I have been asking since moving to Northern California 3 weeks before and just miles from the Carr fire in 2018: Would you Rather live where there are hurricanes, tornadoes, or wildfires? (It's my observation that people seem to choose the disaster to which they are most accustomed. I grew up near Chicago and actually have a memory of taking shelter in a basement from a deadly tornado that struck Oak Lawn, IL (1967) just before I turned 3. I had NO IDEA what a tornado actually was but I recall the adults being concerned and looking out the basement window. I imagined, at the time, that a tornado was a big monster that was outside. I would choose a tornado over a wildfire or a hurricane any day!

Tiara Muhr

I just finished last week's episode and am looking forward to hearing this one!

Brain 🧠 Shenanigans

Wow. The amount of change and advancements we’ve had across all sorts of things in one decade, and then when it comes to sustainable agriculture there has been little to no progress. Just a good ol’ Whelp! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It’s fine, this is fine, everything is fine.

James Jakes

You talked about the increase in temperature in Canada and subsurface Ocean waters, but you didn't say whether it was Celsius or Fahrenheit. Can you clarify?

Gardener Gabbi

Amazing episode, so important! While I was listening, especially about the changing temps in the oceans, my thoughts went to coral reefs... They've already experienced really bad bleaching events in the past few years. Could this specific El Nino spell the end for coral reefs, specifically the Great Barrier Reef in Australia?

Alie Ward

We have a Disasterology episode with Dr. Sam Montano!

foughtthelaw

This is the conversation I have every time someone not from California learns I'm from California: "I can't understand how you live somewhere where there's earthquakes" says someone who always has 5 storm shelters in sprinting distance

Cecily Templeton

The last time I heard about el niño was a high school project on anchovies 🫣 I didn't realize it was a thing that really affected anyone. I thought it was like the jet stream or something.

emelian 🪲🦇🌻

I'm with you there :( There are so many rivers here (yay!) but when the rainfall is that extreme, the banks burst. I had to get to the vet during the worst of the unprecedented flooding and had to walk a kilometre through water (sewage) that went up to my thighs :( and the extreme temperatures are so hard for northern US folks to understand because 28 Celsius is comparable to a lot of other countries... but Ireland (historically) never exceeds 17C! 😭 It's terrifying and I'm with you in trying to prepare our community for it

Beth Middleton Voigt

Listening on my way to work (pastor here). So blown away (figuratively) by the idea of gigantic dust storms redepositing dirt I completely changed my sermon on the fly - I, of course, attributed Alie and Dr Marshall. Wow.

Alannah Wood

A little disappointed, it did not discuss the other devestatiing part of el nino, the significant heat and drying on the other side of the pacific in Australasia.

bug in a rug

This was such a great episode! I really appreciated the way yall pulled no punches, and spelled stuff out straight. I really feel like I left the episode with a much greater understanding of El niño/a and it's role in climate change

Ffsboise

This (and the rerun of your earlier interview w Dr. Shepherd) made for rapt listening on a recent driving trip. I’ve been rewriting lectures in a section of my oceanography course to bring a focus on ENSO, so this couldn’t have been timelier. He discussed his background in developing satellites for NASA, and mentioned several applications of satellites to monitor the ocean and atmosphere—have you thought about having an episode on the science and importance of all the various earth-observing satellites that we all rely on daily (largely not knowing they’re out there)? There is a veritable alphabet of satellites that provide so much critical data every second of every day, yet they’re largely ignored, unknown, or poorly understood by most.

peach head

I still haven't finished this episode because the impossibility to control all this (points to climate catastrophe) is overwhelming. I'm still glad you did it, obviously. But how about one easy solution for HOW TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENTS AND COMPANIES AND START UTOPIAS, ALIE? GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON HOW TO DO THAT. no pressure

Rock's Rose

I related to the part about having an evacuation plan. I was evacuated the end of August due to flooding. I had about 5 minutes to grab my purse, medication, and water. I couldn't get my vehicle out of the driveway, it was gone. Now I have a list of things and a bag ready with some clothes and a few necessities. I'm still trying to dig myself out from the debris and mud but I feel lucky to be able to return to my home. Great episodes on climate and El Niño. The podcast was a recent discovery and I have been binge listening. Thanks Alie for giving me laughs, great information on topics I didn't know I wanted to know about, and others that fascinate my curious mind.