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plain or simple, page 13 (Patreon)

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2018-02-16 04:06:20
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first page - previous page 

did not get to spend nearly as much time as i would've liked to with this page due to health problems, but hey. this is why i advise any and every comic artist to have page buffers.

panel 8 didn't turn out as well as i'd wanted it to. here are the two parts that are superimposed on top of each other: 


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Gwen

*when you delve too deep into your si* so many good faces here

Will Toledo

Given what you mentioned on your blog about Jackson Pollock being promoted by the CIA, how would Outis counter the point that the "flexibility" of abstract art is also accessible to oppressive/fascist forces for manipulation? (More relevant to the last page, but I was waiting to see if Keshet would ask the same question. This discussion is really interesting to me.)

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good question. unfortunately keshet isn't very well-versed in art history, and the historical continuity of the cold war is dubious because that was around the diverging point in the canon. if it were brought up, i think the conversation would have to handle some pretext of how art and the identity of the artist vs. the identity of the audience play into its role; it's something i might sketch out later because it was on the table, but couldn't congeal well with the rest of the topics, and it was something i could fit more easily into a larger story. the framing of the conversation was about how art is a "conversation" which would likely connect to a line like "it lets you see past appearances"; when you understand someone (or something) more deeply, you can deeply wound a weakness as readily as you can empathize with them. with the more apparent involvement of communist themes and a more general interpretation of fascism, the common communist phrase "you must investigate! you must not talk nonsense!" and the prominent role modern art has played in zionism and israel's historical presence in the art world. to end with a lead-off with something about outis's personal identity as a jew, which is irremovable from their social position in society and communications, and how while there are many types of fascism, they are obligated to aggress sentiments mirroring nazism first and foremost. for the sake of hypotheticals, if it were a real conversation without the thought of framing and pacing and keshet just brought it up out of nowhere, outis would likely deflect by saying they already mentioned that art can be used for evil as much as it can for good.