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900. Frame Rate: Sinners (Patreon)

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2025-08-08 13:00:18
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Michael and Abe, very white dudes, discuss the themes, execution, and techniques of Ryan Coogler’s Sinners. Movie’s pretty good. 

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Steven

1. Frame Rate has my favourite opening music in podcasting. It's perfect 2. Respectfully, I think you're wrong about Riverdance. I think that song rips, and is supposed to rip. It's the beginning of the audience starting to wonder if the vampires are all bad. 3. This completes with the revelation that Stack persists as a vampire, quite happy. 4. You're obviously right about the banjo, but the guitar comes from Europe. Coogler got famous doing something great with Rocky. Which is to say.. 5. I think we're supposed to at least entertain the idea that the vampires are the good guys. Possibly just embrace it. Rocky Road to Dublin is a great song, but this isn't a traditional version. The Vampires really do embrace and celebrate the culture they take in. They're different than the clan, or the preacher. They celebrate. 6. Though even at his peak Vampirish joy, Stack prefers the real. So maybe not. I don't think it lands everything but this is a great conversation movie.

Steven
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(I think I phrased that unnecessarily combatively with "you're wrong", but I do think Rocky Road to Dublin is intended to rip, in the movie as a whole is interrogating the cons and the pros, and limitations of "appropriation")

Keith

The way I read the ending is kind of "yeah, I'm a vampire now, but that doesn't have to mean that everything has been taken from me and consumed. I have more to me, and more to give, but how I choose." This applies to the in universe cosmology, but also the self-referential nature of this movie from Coogler. This tracks from the deal making discussed at the top through the thoughts he seems to be working out in this script regarding his participation in the Hollywood machine.