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Lucifer S2E2 (Patreon)

Published:
2020-12-30 16:37:12
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2026-06

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Mom is here!

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Comments

Eric Pfeiffer

The Charlotte stuff is gold. Tricia Helfer is most famous for her role on Battlestar Galactica. It must be a weird thing for her to play the mother to a son who is the same age as she is. Happy New Year!

Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Liar, Liar, Slutty Dress on Fire- Thank you once again for another fantastic reaction for Lucifer!!! I really enjoy this episode a lot. In fact, it's very close to being one of my favorite episodes from this season. I just really love the dynamic between Lucifer and his mother... the Goddess of all creation, who is now in the body of a corrupt defense lawyer named Charlotte Richards. However, I love even more... the despair and pain she brings out in Lucifer while he continues to hold her part in his banishment from Heaven against her throughout the entire episode. Especially in the ending until a huge revelation to him is spoken, resulting in my favorite scene throughout this entire episode. I love how she claims that it was her who had cast Lucifer into Hell which then resulted in him becoming vilified for all eternity. Because she had supposedly pleaded with God to send her son to Hell instead, when God may have initially planned to destroy Lucifer. The pained look in Lucifer's eyes is absolutely heartbreaking, and yet while he has struggled to believe anything his mother has said to him out of anger towards her ever since she first walked through his door, his eyes soften when he finally tells her that he believes her in this moment. That he believes she is telling him the truth, and he appears to finally understand in this moment what Chloe had been trying to tell him a short time earlier. Then, Lucifer tells his mother she can stay with him and on Earth until he can figure out what to do next. But then... as soon as Lucifer walks away from the Goddess, another shocker occurs when she looks up into Heaven and smiles smugly up at her husband, in a way that perhaps all she had just told her son was nothing more than a cruel lie, or perhaps more of a manipulation in order to try to get Lucifer to forgive her and to get him back on her side, in order to dig his hatred for God in that much deeper for her own hidden agenda against God. And upon seeing the lightning and hearing the thunder in the last few seconds, indicating that God appears to be very angry with the Goddess for what she's just done and said to their son, I have a feeling she's definitely up to no good. Whether she was truthful with Lucifer about sending him to Hell to save his life or not. Very cruel and I just feel so badly for Lucifer. Especially since we already know just how much him being cast into Hell and forced to become the Devil has hurt him. And now we have no idea if we can trust anything his mother says, given we don't know if she's only trying to tell her son everything he wants to hear simply to make him all the more angrier at God, or if she's saying these things only to hurt him as punishment for him turning his back on her in Hell. Yikes! Lucifer is a selfish character, and understandably so after all the pain he's really suffered in his long, long, long life. He makes a lot of mistakes that not only irritate Chloe, Dan, Linda, as well as Amenadiel and Maze too, but that might hurt them as well. However, he also has come to care them all, as well as the humans he constantly surrounds himself with. While he is trying to be helpful to them on their cases and otherwise, Lucifer really doesn't always fully understand just how selfish he can be. Or how wrong he is when he says things to Chloe such as she's a bad mother, when we all know she really isn't. Sadly, it's because Lucifer struggles deeply with understanding human emotion, and because he doesn't have a good relationship with either his mother or his father after all they've done to him. For eons… Lucifer has only had himself he could depend on to survive. Maze has been on his side, but he's never fully trusted her because she's a demon and he's the Devil. He's never fully trusted anyone, until now. He's coming to trust Chloe. The only person really looking out for him since he and his brothers and sisters were born has been himself, especially since he's believed for a millennia that his parents and his brothers and sisters have been looking to destroy him. And some have. Amenadiel certainly tried to have him killed a number of times. So it makes sense that Lucifer would be selfish. And yet in spite of all his pain and his fight for survival, Lucifer has come to care about Chloe more than he knows, because she is the only other person who actually truly cares about him in spite of his "Luciferness" no matter how selfish he is. And he truly appreciates it. This is why I love Lucifer as a character so, so much because he's such a complex character who feels more than "the Devil" ever should and so much more than he can possibly understand after all the pain he's suffered from since being cast out of Heaven into Hell, and forced to become the punisher and villain like the entire world sees him as. So just what is the Goddess of all creation up to? The real question is... is she sincere in her words to Lucifer in the end about her efforts to save his life from his father, or is she only manipulating him to keep him from returning her to Hell? Just you wait and see! :) As for what's going on with Amenadiel... I really love the change in his character this season, especially seeing him and Lucifer working together and being more on each other's sides. I also really love the personal changes he's going through with his powers failing and now seeing that his wings are wilted, or are decaying even. The question is... why is this happening to him? The answers may just lie within Dr. Linda's words to him within this episode, which I really love and applaud her for. Amenadiel is another angel, who ever since the creation has believed himself to be far superior to humans. And while Lucifer is selfish for different and more heartbreaking reasons, Amenadiel is also very selfish in his own way as well. Because he has never had reason to care about how his actions would hurt humans upon seeing himself far above them. Therefore… he has never cared about how he might have been hurting Linda by lying to her, compromising her position as a therapist, using her for information about Lucifer, and then for betraying her. And all actions have consequences. Linda finally has called him out on it and states that karma will come back on him as a result of his actions. For the first time, Amenadiel feels incredibly guilty for hurting Linda because much to his surprise, he has actually come to care about Linda, as well as for Lucifer and Maze too. So yeah... I really love all that is happening to him, and seeing him come to learn from his mistakes. And most of all... I absolutely love his heartfelt and sincere apology he offers to Linda in the end as well. Such a touching moment, especially for Amenadiel. Also... the Goddess, whom we can simply now refer to her as simply Charlotte, also makes a point to Maze about how Hell gives the damned what they deserved, and therefore Maze was never able to break her down in Hell because Charlotte didn't feel guilty about any of her actions. What all that implies will come about in later episodes, but it's possible these words might also have something to do with what's happening to Amenadiel as well. And I really love the hidden meanings behind these complex subjects being expressed by the different characters all throughout this episode. Also... when Lucifer is shown praying to Amenadiel to try to get his brother's attention, it appears that Amenadiel is able to hear Lucifer just fine, but was actually just ignoring him because Amenadiel was so busy being caught in trying to figure out what's happening to himself. I don't think his power to hear his brother's calls have been effected by what's happening to him. I may be wrong, but this is what I've gathered from this moment. Now... I also like the humor Lucifer brings throughout this episode while he works so hard to try to prove that his mother is responsible for the deaths and crimes committed. But I love that he isn't so much trying to prove his mother's guilty for Chloe, but more so to protect himself from his mother. Lucifer can't risk falling for anymore of his mother's lies she might offer up to him in order to convince him not to send her back to Hell. And seeing their dynamic throughout this episode, his fear is absolutely understandable. I enjoy the overall case as Lucifer works with Chloe to solve the murders for their own reasons, resulting in them coming together once again in the end as they solve the case. It isn't the best case by any means, but it's still a lot of fun. Which then results in another of my favorite moments within this episode, and it's a very subtle moment that might be missed by most people who watch this episode for the first time. I really love seeing the big smile that comes to Lucifer's face while he observes Chloe as she cuffs their killer within the store parking lot, You can see that he admires Chloe very deeply. And while Charlotte might not understand right away what his smile means, seeing him smiling at Chloe appears to worry Charlotte in this moment, as she stares at her son and at Chloe worryingly and in confusion upon seeing how happy he is while he's looking at Chloe. Very subtle, but absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much, my friend!! I'm happy you're continuing to enjoy and love this phenomenal show, and especially this episode I love so much too. What an introduction to the Goddess of All Creation!! Like always, I can't wait for more Lucifer!! So, until then... Take care. Be safe and happy. :) Sincerely, Heidi

nostalgicgirl
>>50447288

I’m really enjoying the portrayal of the mother and so looking forward to learn more about her. And that ending, gosh! You never know on this show because that smirk could mean so many different things. I do hope for Lucifer’s sake and sanity that she is being honest with him but I have a feeling that she is still keeping something from him. Part of me feels like its all a manipulation from her. And that lightning lol. To me it seemed like God was telling her off or something. Tom Ellis man, he's so good at portraying all the different sides of Lucifer. How he goes from cocky to terrifying to vulnerable. It’s an amazing performance and the character is so layered. That scene between Amenadiel and Linda was so touching because you could see how sorry he was and that he does value their friendship. He just seems to be in a lot of pain and I feel for him. I love the awkwardness between Lucifer and Charlotte LOL. Especially since his mom in the body of a very attractive younger woman so it makes it all the more awkward but fun to watch. I noticed the look and so did Charlotte. ITs why I said that a mother knows and she could tell that Chloe means a lot to Lucifer.

nostalgicgirl
>>50443169

Oh yeah, isnt she really blonde in that? I dont remember. But she is really good in this and the awkwardness that it brings is so much fun.