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Patrons satisfaction question (Patreon)

Published:
2025-03-07 14:06:02
Edited:
2025-03-07 14:07:54
Imported:
2025-03

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I saw many people leaving and not many coming back. Maybe I’m doing something wrong or drawing something that isn’t as attractive? You can tell me what I should draw to keep my audience satisfied.

What should I do? I’m just not sure why people leave, since I work daily…

A lot of my works receive praise and I had many followers, but I don’t think I’m doing good enough from the Patreon perspective comparing it to other artists, who are less active. So maybe it’s something else?

Should I draw differently or draw twice a day? I just hope it's not bad luck, because that would mean my hard work is good for nothing...

(I'm so jealous of other artists who draw what they like and it seems to work out for them monetarily and emotionally haha...)

Comments

Blazo

I follow some artists, but I'm currently not paying anyone. You are among my favorite artists, and I would like to share the following with you: I've noticed that you post even more than you used to. On one hand, this can be a positive thing, but on the other hand, it might limit you because you may not have the time to develop further. Many artists only create one piece per week but make various variations (one illustration and then ten variants with sexual content; the image undergoes very little change, but a sex scene is incorporated). Personally, I would love to see you become even more of a brand. Books, prints, and perhaps one day having a sales booth at events. Draw a little less and use the time to learn something new. Try animation or do livestreams to grow even more. I see many artists on X, and they all have one thing in common: they barely grow after reaching 500,000 to 800,000 followers, which means there’s a limit on X. Expand your character pool. Draw VTubers from Hololive, for example, or even anime characters. In the end, it's hard to say what the reason is. Perhaps many people's life circumstances have changed, and they'll come back. Sometimes, you shouldn't try to cling to something you can't control.

Crytica

I highly doubt it's your 'lack of skill' or your style. You consistently rank super high on for example Pixiv and your numbers compared to others im following on Twitter are pretty good. I think, sadly, that bad luck is a player here. Now it might be you and the next time someone else. Also, the world is slowly becoming more expensive so people might save where they can? Maybe make your lowest tier a bit more attractive to aim for the people that want to support you but can't financially support you as much as they might want? This could increase the amount of overall Patrons maybe.

Blazo

I want to remind you of something: You were shadowbanned on X for a long time, which understandably caused you a lot of concern. Back then, you had around 350,000 followers. I told you back then to be patient. Unfortunately, you probably didn't see that because there were just too many responses. Now you’re at 563,000. Your smaller account is also close to 150,000. Believe me, there are many small artists who would love to achieve just 10% of what you have accomplished, but they probably never will (myself included 🤷‍♀️). Trust me, there are people who have absolutely no chance.

Shadow

Unfortunately I just can't afford it. Not a lack of satisfaction. Just that I recently got an apartment, and need to save where I can

Papi Kirito

Yeah not lack of skill I love your art I will say I do tend to keep art that can go on my wallpaper so more horizontal art if you know what I mean I just like having nice pretty back ground art personally.so I go back and forth on keeping subs at times depending on if I need to save as well.

Tao

I like your artwork, but I’m broke :(

TosieQ

Personally I would go to higher tier but I really can't afford that lately but one day... One day Imma make Qiandai the Richdai. Usually I just swap around my pledges on patreon to those artists that I think need at least a bit more support

Hanbrolo

Your work is amazing and high quality considering how often you put it out! I don't think numbers going down has anything to do with quality, I think it's just everything has been getting expensive for a lot of people. Sorry I don't really have a good or better perspective to share

Clockwork

Your work is amazing and high quality! I love your art style and it has a unique personality to it. I am not sure why people could be leaving, but you are my favorite artist on here.

Polycarpus

It's normal. It's what they call 'churn rate' at the business. Usually artists do commissions to compensate for it so if you want to balance out $ w/ art, then you'll heavily advertise commissions to break even. Other artists also do merch w/ stickers so there's varied revenue streams instead of focusing on Patreon subscribers only.

Alex Rodriguez

Your art is beautiful so I don’t think that’s the issue. Have you thought making merchandise for your artwork? For example as others have said stickers, canvas/ posters, art books things that people would love to display. Maybe that could help to balance how much you’d make. I’d love to buy an artbook or poster of your art!

Toreole

I wish i could tell you what it is, but i can say that from my experience as a subscriber, you are putting in a crazy amount of work (sometimes to your own detriment, i.e. hurting wrist, sleep deprivation and such), and the quality of your work is consistently high. If there would be one thing id have to say could be a possible reason, id say its something to do with the motifs of your illustrations? Like lately the 'what' and 'how' you draw is fairly similar between drawings, it is not really focusing on one specific thing (other than - for a lack of a better term - generically pretty women), but also doesnt have a broad range to cover various interests. Maybe try dipping your toe into doing some art that is a bit more fetish-y? (cough cough muscle mommies cough cough), just to spice things up a little, get people excited for what you might draw next, like maybe some light bondage stuff, some different poses or locations (but thats a lot of effort when considering backgrounds). just some more variation, allow your imagination to go to new places. you absolutely have the skills. edit: since a saw another comment mentioning broadening your set of characters, oh yeah absolutely do. the most popular place to start in that regard could be league of legends (shit game, hot women) for instance. that could be something

Rein_TB

You are a very skilled and dedicated artist, and one who actively engages with their community on patreon, which is a rarity. I'm not sure to whom you're comparing yourself to, referring to artists that post less frequently but seem to have greater subscription retention. There could be a myriad of reasons that could be the case, and any of them could be valid. Even something as straightforward as that they've simply found/cater to a specific audience and continued to deliver the particular niche of content that the audience prefers? Seeing as you upload on a relatively consistent basis, often several days in a row, which is beyond what many others could achieve at your calibre, I don't think posting more is necessarily going to remedy the concern. It could be a money issue for some, or a distribution issue as a whole. As others have pointed out, it's easy for someone to sub for 5 minutes, and sift through your content and then unsub, repeat the process some months down the line. Much as we wish to doubt it, but that can happen, so perhaps altering the accessibility of your content might be worth consideration. Aside from its distribution, you could try doing more OC work for some time? Merely going back to look at the post engagements, those seemed to do quite well, at least, from what I can tell.

KR_Zero

At the time, you weren't very active or consistent. So I left. Shortly after you did become more active. As I have seen on your posts on X. You drew more R18 works, whether it be girls naked, yuri, or sex. Really loved the Belle works.

Shunk

As most others are saying, the problem Is not the quality of your art, It’s incredible. Personally I had to leave for financial struggles. I think many people would love If you open up commissions. (I sure would when I’m stable again lol) Also I personally prefer the R18 works you do.

Taylor

It's not a personal thing, if people see an artist, or content creator, take an extended break they'll simply cancel or pause their subscription until they come back. Doesn't always work out that they will come back for sure but that's just how it goes sometimes. There's no fixing it or solving this problem.

Cody94

I think you could change up what characters you draw. I personally don’t know any of the ones I see you draw which isn’t as enjoyable. Kinda why people hop to what’s popular for example marvel rivals

Omni, Nature’s Smore

I believe you are doing a great job. Having people come and go is normal in the platform. I think you should focus on drawing what you enjoy and on having fun instead of looking for a demographic to please. Your work shines when you can show your passion and the audiences you build out of pleasing a specific group tends to leave when they are not catered to. For example, only doing yuri to please a specific subset of people will work on getting them on but they will probably leave whenever you stop doing it as often. Take it easy and enjoy the process. You are an artist and not a drawing producing machine, so take care of yourself.

MJ

Well to be honest I'm a recent subscriber and your art is amazing so I'm extremely satisfied with the content I'm getting. Like some other people said, maybe some exclusive stuff would help.

J4Fusion

I'm going to add to the encouragement here. Your art is phenomenal. Those who leave don't think you're art is bad but rather for financial reasons. Just continue being you and don't sweat the small stuff.

Ryan

As someone who just recently ended their patronage to you, I can tell you that, personally, it's no shortcoming on your part. Your work is phenomenal and I look forward to seeing your new pieces. Financially, times is tough and as much as I would like to support you, and think you deserve it, I'm just not able. But I look forward to supporting you on here again once It's in the budget and I'm not pinching pennies. Keep doing what you're doing because what you're doing is making incredible art. The people will come.

Richard Fan

qorl no sometimes we just get too poor, we love your work (you post so much like omg do you have time for yourself???) we always come back when we can afford to 😭

ceo_of_jessie

i think the people mentioning potential financial circumstances are right. it isnt a short coming of you <3

IvoryMask

I'm guessing its much more incoming fiscal hardships for most than anything you're doing. You do wonderful work and put out much more on here than most other patreons and at immaculate quality. Trying my best to keep all my patreons active still. If I ever have to stop my patreons it's due to outlying circumstance and factors always. <3

Gyuto

Generally, might be good to check (if you haven't already) if this is a trend and not just some outliers before making large changes. Even if it is a trend it could also be, as many other comments are saying, unrelated to your work and just the general financial situation. Anecdotally I don't think the level of activity is the issue. You definitely post a lot more than I think any of the other artists I'm supporting. I hope that you find the answers that will work for you and am wishing you the best!

Chom Chom

Economy is pretty bad all over, many love your art but have tighten up their budgets.

Joana

Your artwork is amazing. I would recommend you to work less for the sake of your mental health, but I know convincing a japanese person to do that is almost impossible. As for patreon retention, you shouldnt worry about it. Theres a lot of buyers remorse when it comes to lewd artwork in general, since a lot of the purchases come from a heat of the moment sort of deal. Also, the USA, which I assume is a good chunk of your subs, is becoming economically unstable, and dangerous for lgbtq+ people

Randomguy

Even popular artists often have members that leave for good and still have financial struggles. Its not because your art is bad or not interesting. You just need a way to incentivise members to stay on for longer (aside from having good artwork) or find an additional revenue source.

Tyler

Your arts amazing im just broke

wasabisushi

i genuinely love your art and who you are as an artist. i feel like its a bit out of your control whether your audience stays to support you monetarily cause of real life circumstances (me included im not subbed this month but i wish i was)

Byno

I think your art is good? I think you're just too harsh on yourself

bleb blep

please don't let these things bother you, at least not if you aren't struggling with money... unfortunately i don't really have much money to support artists, especially with the way things are in the US.. maybe some of them are also these kind of followers who need to cut back on subscriptions due to how our economy might end up going... That isn't a fault of yours. Your art is beautiful, and I can't imagine the world being better without you. You seem like a kind person, but that's just me going off of vibes... I came here because of your recent twitter post to express that I would hate for you to suddenly disappear. It doesn't mean you have to keep creating art; art should be something you do because it brings you joy. It's a shame when it gets stressful and is no longer enjoyable, and it hurts you in so many ways. Qia, a lot of us are also "the big sad" - please know you're not alone... But please, please, try to keep breathing. Do you have any pets? I don't know what life is like over there, but animals are one of the things that always make me feel a little bit softer when I'm stressed. If you're able to, I think it'd be wonderful if you can do some volunteer work with some animals maybe? The world is really hard and cruel right now. I'm struggling to keep holding out hope, too. But I am! I will. Even just one person who loves me is enough - but I also have a sweet cat to take care of, so I have to stay for her. Please, take a big breath. It's okay to step back from art. I don't know what's going on in the minds of people who don't consider you're a real person with struggles, but I'm sure there's a lot of people who don't mind staying subscribed through your break. Maybe you can offer some doodles and scribbles instead of full-on beautiful art pieces in the meantime. I don't know how your therapist vist went, but I'm so sad to know that shortly after your heart was heavy enough to want to close your eyes for good. I know it's hard. How is your health? Are you eating well? Do you have closeby friends? The internet is terrible these days. Young people filter in and their immature minds band together with awful ideas. I know you've been subjected to it before. I hate that that happens and you don't know what to do about it. I really think people who send hateful messages due to your art are just immature brats not worth paying attention to -- the art is not for them, it's for YOU to share with us. You should draw whatever YOU want to! The only time it's not for you is when it's commissions... So, it's so silly to me to ever harass an artist for their artwork. At least, you know, your kind of work.. Art that isn't, inhumane. I don't know what I can say, I don't know if you'll even see this message or understand it... But please be kind to yourself. Please try to eat well if you can. And I wish I could suggest talking to friends, but I don't know what your situation is like, and...talking to people following you for art, especially the "sexy" kind, can be so...weird. If you have no one, what about a pet? Maybe adopting a senior? If you're financially stable, at least. I know pets can be a big burden, especially seniors or disabled pets, but maybe...maybe if you're able to, you can try to push yourself to live long enough to see a new friend's last moments be filled with love, and see how you feel about that or if you've found anything you enjoyed or felt happy about, and try again. And again. Maybe make a journal of all the things that made you feel even just a little bit better during your day - and remind yourself of these things when you're feeling hopeless, and wonder what could surprise you? I know it's not that easy. I know the "big sad" could be for so many reasons and there's no one answer. Without knowing much, and without asking to pry... I just wanted to offer some words and ideas. Because I'd be so sad if I ever learned you had disappeared too soon from us. Not because of your art, but because I just... I know the pain. I know the feeling. And I hate to see it in others. None of it is your fault, either. It isn't. You're beautiful (inside) and you deserve to live, deserve to be happy. I hope so much that you survive long enough to meet a time like that, past this point in your life that seems so hopeless and dark. Please don't give up.

eL-ax

Personally, I think that going to a therapist is just making it worse. It is a waste of time (and money) just for someone to tell you that you are depressed (which you maybe already know). Life will get more and more depressing as you continue to compare yourself with others. For what it's worth, you tried to end it all, but clearly, it is not your time yet. It is a good time to take a break and try to remember what made you start drawing in the first place. Doing something you like as a job has its downside because sometimes you will be pressured to do something that you don't like. Stop asking people for what they want, and draw what you want!

Pumpkin

I absolutely love ur art, I'd get something commissioned if I could. I don't think it's ur art it's probably people's financial situations, I've looked at other patreon artists I'm subscribed too and the only difference I can see is a background, a fully clothed one (like alot of detail in the clothes) then they do a lingerie then nude, that seems to get alot of people going because it keeps them waiting on more and they draw the latest characters like rn castorice, aglaea, varesa, zani. But again, genuinely don't think anything is wrong with ur art I absolutely love it.

Foursword4

Please take care of yourself. You are a beautiful and talented soul. Please speak to people you trust and love. You can make it through this, I know you can. I truly hope for all the best. I know life can feel horrible and unfair at times. But you can do this! Please know people love you and that there are people who would be there for you. I struggle with my own depression and know how hard it can be from my own experience. Without knowing what you have personally gone through, I want you to never forget you’re loved not just as an artist, but as a human being. Please, don’t give up. Never lose hope.

trickymindful

It is not your fault. It is not your fault. If you feel useless, I am too. You are not alone. All of us here support you.

MX9

Doctor, first of all, please take care of yourself and take good care of your body. The day before yesterday, I learned that an illustrator I have followed for a long time passed away from acute heart failure. It was really sudden, as he had been tweeting as usual until a few days ago. I am saddened because I have loved his illustrations for a long time. The other day, I learned on his Twitter that he was hospitalized. I do not want to see any more illustrations by teachers who give me strength. I am an ordinary person, a person without power. However, your illustrations inspire me. I bookmark them without fail, even if they are illustrations of a genre I do not know. I understand a little that you have many problems as a great illustrator, because you have tweeted before. My understanding does not change anything, but never forget that I am a fan of your teacher. Of course, the same goes for many others besides me. Best not to look at the offensive people. For now, please take care of yourself and rest. I will continue to wait for you to update your illustrations. I apologize for the long sentence. I am a fan from Japan.

yf l

Trust on yourself!Your art and style is very good! And to solve the problem,I think you can try to make more versions to attract people with different interests.For example,u could keep the soft style and add some wild versions in sex.Maybe this can help you!

sweetbleek

I honestly think it's because your artstyle / rendering style changes are still pretty recent, that and you've stepped away from drawing genshin chara with all the drama some peeps might have've hang around then, but are leaving now. That being said I don't believe you need to go back to the more rendered style or anything, it's just you are now catering to a different audience and they need to find you!

Babs

I think your works are perfect. I searching 2-3 month for someone, who create such a perfect works in shorts terms. Please, don't stop to joy us our creations!!! 💕💕💕

Noelle

There's nothing wrong with your art and style; I wouldn't have become a patron if I thought your art wasn't good. I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're doing. If anything, you need to just take some time to relax; the surest way to burn yourself out is to try to churn something out. Take your time, and draw what makes you happy! I don't think any of us are here from a transactional standpoint - we're not buying your time, we're supporting you!

Illyana Gomez

Personally I love all your art but my favorites are Kafka and Himeko in the bathtub and Topaz and Jade (they are beautiful and joyful works of art). Right now I don't have much money and what I have left I'm spending on other subscriptions which I'm thinking of canceling so I can subscribe to your patreon. You should also sponsor your patreon more on twitter. I didn't know you had one until a few weeks ago. I hope you recover and if you need to, take all the time you need ❤️❤️❤️❤️ .

Avis Pakaya

Yo is she okay now? I'm worried

kuraiKitsu

Anyone with the access to the "Special Patreon chat" from the 35$+ tier has any info they could share? Did she post anything there regarding the recent situation, or any updates since?

kuraiKitsu

For anyone interested and who didn't see it yet, Qian gave an update on her situation on her twitter/X :3

Javier del Nogal

I think theres nothing wrong with your art. I like almost everything you post. Hope you're okay 💞

Vaine87

Random note, I've noticed after upgrading my membership I've lost access to some posts and patreon tells me to downgrade my membership to access the content. The xilonen posts specifically are ones I noticed I lost access to.