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Discussion time (Patreon)

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2020-07-02 18:16:52
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2026-06

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Hey gang,

I've been considering how to pursue my Patreon... I see many artists that release the uncensored contents online for free but in a lower resolution than what the Patrons get as rewards. If I went with that businessmodel it would mean that if I wanted to draw more hardcore stuff I wouldn't have to come up with crazy complicated ways of censoring it when I promote my Patreon.  Still, some sort of censor would have to be added at certain sites that doesn't allow hardcore scenarios, but that would just be some cruder ways of censor instead of tons of redrawing. 

Quite honestly I'm kinda tired of drawing a big amount of different variations of the same drawing, I would rather spend that time creating a new drawing, but if that means losing most of my Patrons I would of course stick to the current plan. However there is also the chance that I could produce more drawings per month, so there is that.... And Bonus pieces would be added along the way like I do now. Anyway, I would like your input on this matter, perhaps some suggestions as to how to run this patreon and what kind of tiers would be most beneficial. Sorry for rambling, I'm just throwing this out there...

PS: Still working on the June rewards and are shipping them out July 4th.

KJ

Comments

Purgy

My friend you do you. I have been enjoying you work sine the early 2000s. And it'll be cool to see you work on some new things. But you do you guy. And i still need to do those stories on those shemales pics you did which are still my favorites.

Los Vaqueros Press

I'm pretty sure that we would support you in doing whatever is the most artistically filling for you. I know I would.

Anonymous

Honestly, I'm cool with no variations as long as there is a futa variant. I totally understand where you're coming from as an artist and it would certainly take a toll on your creative process to rework the same drawings every month. You do you! Your art is truly something special and I dont think your faithful patrons plan to leave anytime soon

Anonymous

Im cool with not having the variations. I think you should just go with what you like to draw and dont make it a chore.

Demilze

I'm fine with either, but if you just focused on creating different images instead of the variations, gotta have all those be fat magnum dong futas. I don't mind the non-futa variations but you make amazingly detailed and plump mamas futas. 👌👌👌💪😤

Anonymous

You have my support no matter what.

Stevolteon

If all the different versions are causing excess stress better to drop them. I certainly won't be going anywhere - especially if it means more pics per month!

frosty jojo

I think your plan of what you wanna do sounds pretty fucking good to me. Besides sometimes people don't know what they want (I'm talking about annoying patrons/fans/people asking for too much with requests or who cry loudly for lack of a better term lol). Ya you do you. I'm really interested to see what else you'd rather be doing/drawing. And ya. Tbh I thought you liked making the multiple versions. It seemed kind of hard to work around especially with some of your works, multiple versions doesn't always make sense or work as well so it's almost like creating an artificial blocker for you to work around. Anything that brings you back some freedom in the creative process is a desirable move, imo. And more works/pieces? Hell ya. That's awesome. That's prob much better anyways, for all parties involved.

Anonymous

Could mosaic or blur the raunchier alts. Also I thought doing more drawings with fewer alts per month was the plan already.

Anonymous

My thoughts on this subject is to only do one censored version as something to use on the sites that don’t like the hard core stuff that way you can post there. As for low resolution I think it’s a fine thing to do that way your art gets more passed around with the low resolution file being a file everyone can share.

KinkyJimmy
>>39665792

Not quite, what I mean is that I wouldn't have to plan four steps ahead on how I'm gonna cover up/redraw action in order to make the drawing sfw if I don't really have to worry about it. I pretty much only do that now in order to promote and entice people to join this Patreon.

The Legion

Honestly, fewer variations of the same drawing, in exchange for more art, sounds wonderful; especially since you will be less bored during the creative process. This sounds like a win-win for everyone. :)

Sinful Goth Soles

Whatever you like to do I'm for it. Art quality is great.

Christian Schmidt

Mmhhhh hard to choose! You are the artist you should do what you think is the best for yourself! Maybe you should try something new if it doesn't work out like you think at first you can change it back! Take your time and let's see what everybody else is thinking!

Linarian

You are correct in a sense. A lot of other content creators have begun posting lower resolutions of their nsfw variants. However the more saucy stuff are still hidden. Now, personally when it comes to variants, I like them and they are a huge incentive for me to pledge on someone's patreons, even if they release low-res version of their art, without the variants. If you are sick of doing a lot of variants, imho just keep it to a single dick version, although I think that you do very good and sexy variants. Maybe make a multi choice poll to see which variants people like the most and keep doing those? For example I'm not a fan of the extremely large cocks, so I can go without them.

Barracuda

I don't mind seeing fewer versions if it makes you feel better. Personally, I follow you for your amazing futa art, but I wouldn't it if you made specific futa or non-futa pieces to make your workflow better.

Bo-Ing

Do the way you enjoy. I actually like more different characters. PS：Bonus pieces have a sense of surprise which are my favorite！

Killer Bean

I would like to see you try this new way, kind of tired of same character variations myself.

Azzy708

I personally prefer your current plan. Still a couple of points: First, I think that you need to decide how many drawings you're going to make per month. Currently, you're doing three pics per month in average with variants which I think is good. If you drop the variants how many are you willing to make per month minimum? You have to decide that first and stick with it. If it's the same number or slightly more I'm not sure if it's worth it, at least for me. Second, I think that having to make more and different pics per month is going to make you burn out faster not slower since you'll have to do the whole drawing process more times. Can you keep up? Still that's up to you. You could experiment for a couple of months and see how it goes. Anyway, I don't care much for the sfw or female variants. I came for the futa. I'd like to see more futa variants like flaccid or half erect though. Regarding the patreon I'd like to see more suggestion posts and more polls. I'd like for the patrons to have some more input on the drawings chosen. Maybe post some rough sketches as a preview and do a poll at the beginning of the month? Also, you tend to focus on specific fandoms and specific characters. Maybe you're getting a little bored, you know? There's thousands of characters out there in anime and games. Do something you've never done before. Experiment! You did it in May and May was an excellent month if a bit short. Keep it up!

ÐarkHawk

Remember Kevin 💔

Hayate

In short, I wouldn't mind fewer variations as long as they contain what I like... I guess your first objective would be to determine exactly what it is that your Patreon members appreciate the most from you. Of course, as an accomplished artist, you are entirely entitled to draw whatever you like. But then you probably noticed that some of your works sold better than others. Although variety is the key to please the largest crowd, I do think that you could skip on some of them. For example, the Miranda Lawson pin-up we got last month had a total of 15 variants (!!!). Every single one of them was exquisitely well made and I enjoyed every single one. Yet, if I had to bring it down to a minimum, I could easily be satisfied with just a couple : - Miranda (fem) with clothes : KEEP - Miranda (fem) nude : KEEP - Miranda (fem) nude with pubes : pass - Miranda (fem) nude huge boobs : pass - Miranda (fem) nude + dildo-in : pass - Miranda (fem) nude + dildo-out : pass - Miranda (fem) nude + dildo-out + pee : pass - Miranda (fem) nude + dildo-out + milking : pass - Miranda (futa) clothed : KEEP - Miranda (futa) nude + flaccid : KEEP - Miranda (futa) nude + hard-on : KEEP - Miranda (futa) nude + dick-beads + milking : pass - Miranda (futa) nude + dick-beads-out + milking : pass - Miranda (futa) nude + huge cock + boobs : KEEP - Miranda (futa) nude + huge cock + boobs + dicknipples : pass So there you have it. 6 out of 15 variants pleased me alot. Not saying the others weren't well made, they simply aren't my fetish. As long as you draw sexy women with beautiful faces, generous proportions and some cock and balls to go along, I'll support you. I dunno, maybe do a survey to find out what your members REALLY enjoy the most? In any case, you're an incredible artist that keeps getting better and better every year. Don't burn yourself out, we truly appreciate you and your work. ;)

VitAnyaNaked

Well, your thoughts have a certain meaning. I understand that you are tired of drawing several options for one drawing, yes, it is a little depressing. Nevertheless, it is better to follow the same path.

deluxewaltwhitman

I feel like you should do whatever makes you happy and keeps you interested in the work. I can say this because I'm an artist as well. I learned that I need to do what I personally like and not worry about whether anyone else likes it. but that's MY process. Yours may be different. Personally I can say from you I'm a huge fan of your work ethic, style, and imagination. You blow my mind every month. To touch on the censoring, why not simply place a black "censored" bar over the naughty bits and call it a day? Because my favorite thing from you is the clothed/unclothed, aroused/unaroused variants that you do. Beyond that, I'm good. Ejaculation is always fun to see but for me it's not essential, and once in a while it would be fun to see futa on female action. But again, not essential if it gets in the way of progress, and/or your life. I've even modded some of yours myself for personal use

Farjad

Easy just have 2 version one for those futa/she male lovers and 2nd for ppl who like them pussy lips . I support you cuz I like your art and like them sugar lips

Kevin

I’m good for you doing what you want, so long as a couple variations stay. For example, I like having both Futa and Fem versions as well as the big cock ones. A larger amount of different works per month sound good though. I also don’t want to push you around, or come off as entitled.

Anonymous

Yeah I would agree with what many people are saying. I've said it in the pass, you do you. More beautiful futa per month is always awesome! As a fan of the kinkier fetishes, everything in moderation right? On one hand, when you did that dicknipples variation of April O'Neil, that was special to me. It was rare and unexpected, so I was absolutely delighted when I first saw it. On the other hand, I actually felt fatigue looking through so many variations from last month. Seeing Miranda with her dicknipples was great, but it was expected and didn't feel nearly as special. What I'm getting at is, while I love the kinkier stuff, only throw it in if it feels right for you. Not feeling it? Don't bother and carry on with what you want to do. I'll still be here :)

Jackson

That sounds totally great, I’m not going anywhere

SFM admirer

Personally love the dickgirl stuff, seems like alot of people do but you have polled for who likes the fem stuff or not. It would be cool if you brought down the hammer and did pretty much dickgirl stuff only so that your pics of 2 characters could be more intense while not worrying for the Alts. Otherwise ill just throw an idea for a format. Still do 3 pics a month (of your choice of course) but see how fast you could be done by doing 3 solid pics with no alts and then after those pics are done a small poll of which of the 3 deserves alts. The other 2 pics could always be saved for a time later as bonus alts whenever you whip it out.

HS

Honestly when it comes to the variations, futa/clothed/bulge, futa/flaccid, and futa/erect, is enough for me.

Jason Trent

If you're sick of too many variants I would understand bringing the number down. Personally I would love a bulge > flaccid > erect variant, maybe with some additional ones as you feel like it. I also would love to see more hardcore images from you. Your Black Cat + Frost pic is still one of the hottest pieces of art I've seen

JCA

I'm on the same page as some other commenters. I'm primarily a fan of your futa work, so that's mainly what I'm interested in seeing. Some of the variations done in the past with dildos, anal beads, dick nipples, etc, I certainly don't mind, but they're not the reason I'm here. I'm a big fan of size though, so I do hope you keep doing variations where you sometimes make your girls super-hung.

Kmoney454

Personally, I'm quite a big fan of your huge futas and bulges.

Tazrael

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. I'm echoing the above, go with what makes you happy. I've long been a fan and you following your heart won't change that now. Like someone else I do love the bulge/flaccid/erect variants but again, it's your art and it's always lovely. Also, just wanna say I'm also a fan of your weirder art too, with sexy body variations and mutations and all, so I'm all for the path that takes us there :D

Trickster

I would have no problem with you posting uncensored content for free at a lower resolution if that's what you wanted to do. As for the variation stuff. I really love variants, so I would be sad to see them dissapear, however also I'm generally a fan of letting the artist pursue what they want to do, as I figure that a happy artist is a better artist than one who feels like they're forced into doing something else than they really want to be doing. I kinda hope you would be willing to clarify a bit more what exactly would change if you decided to change your approach though, as I feel like the current wording is somewhat vague.

Petter Wäss

I'd be fine with getting more pictures obviously. I support people on Patreon because I want to support their artistic endeavors, not because I want exclusives

Anonymous

Do what you feel works best for you you’ll have the support from myself and many others no matter what