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The other day I randomly tried Grok on Twitter. I tried it mainly because Deviantart is absolutely inundated in AI garbage. That might sound counterintuitive but I found myself wondering what I could do with it since these people seem to be making money creating very unimaginative things. I have said it before, but I'm going to hammer the point again: I don't support AI, I accept that it's not going away unless legislation stops it. I don't think artists have what it takes to do that. Also China is already making AI that can simulate reality since they aren't bound by things like laws. I bring it up because someone always pitches a fucking fit whenever I do anything like I'm the one who is causing the state of the world. I'm already not well liked in the "art community" so I can't just hope that AI goes away. I need at least some idea of what I'm up against. Anyway, I'm going to share with you things I made with AI using MY art. These weren't generated out of nothing. I fed the robot my art and told it to do things. I feel like I need to stress this: I am not going to remake my comic with AI or switch over to it. I mean, if at some future time AI gets to a point where it could do that I would probably do it for fun, but I'm not going to suddenly not draw for you anymore.

I know that many of you think my art is very good, and I'm extremely glad you feel that way, but I have never felt like I was good enough. The version of the comic in my head is very different from what I can make and what you see. These AI images are like looking into my imagination and it strikes me with awe and terrifies me simultaneously.

Sometimes the robot understood exactly what I wanted and sometimes it took a swing and only clipped it. Alex's hairstyle took several tries and isolation from other characters to get it to work. It never understood Nina's teeth. It sort of understood what Ed is supposed to look like. It more or less understood Jo as a concept, but wanted to make her white and a boy a lot of the time. It couldn't figure out Maddison having light hair and darker skin in group shots at all. In a couple of images it absolutely nailed Rulette. For some reason Jess's glasses made it always try to render her as a real person more than the others. When it figured out the actual hairstyles I draw I was shocked. Seeing them rendered like that, in a way I barely understand in 3 dimensions, was something else.

Anyway, as you all have probably read at some point by now, I was in college at the dawn of Photoshop. My professors were terrified of it and refused to entertain teaching about it because they didn't understand it themselves. It crippled me in my career when I finally embraced art again. AI gives me those same feelings but it's even worse. Every aspect of society is going to change so much in the next decade. It will be a time of strife for most of us. Only jobs grounded in reality will hold out for longer.

If at some point someone buys the rights to the comic from me it won't be rendered in the style of my actual art. It will be something like this AI CGI, or something along those lines. A day may even come where I can show the pages to a robot and it will just make it a movie. I guess we'll see, if we survive the robot wars.

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Rikki

Between F-AI-lures

Steven Blankenheim

Some look a bit....Dreamworks-y. like How To Train Your Dragon or Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs style. Some look interesting, but weird. I do prefer your natural drawing style though.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

Pretty much everyone has said as much. I suspect anyone invested in it will want what they are used to.

Lap

It’s… your characters (kinda, sorta), but soul-less.

Viktor

Agreed. Dreamworks/Pixary IMO. Not in line with the natural drawing style and a bit jarring in several cases (where you get the impression of mixing art styles with the faces/hair). Not bad, just a solid departure and as such it doesn't "feel" as real.

Man in Black

Would be a great April fools prank for those not on your Patreon

Rinku Kazeno

I think these exemplify what's truly great about your art, and that AI can't get even close to match: your characters' expressiveness. Yes, a lot of the generated images are aesthetically pleasing, but the characters look kinda dead inside, especially in the scenes with multi-character interactions.

David

I think pretty much all artists find the gap between in head vision and reality a challenge and probably holds most of us back. We're all here because we do like your art style and storytelling. I think if it was like the above ai style I likely wouldn't have subscribed. Maybe if you sell tv/film rights, the pixary style can work 😄

Paul Osze

I've done the same thing with some of my own art, to see how it does creating a 3D model that I can manipulate to get better results. But you always have to go in and fix things to get expressions. Sort of like the comic-maker software where you create character models.

awgiedawgie

I'm enjoying seeing the AI versions of what you've already given us, because I've already seen your original version. But I'd get really tired really quick if I were reading just the AI version. There's just something a little... off. I think the term is "uncanny valley". The AI version is supposed to look real, but it misses the mark. But it's too close for the brain to reconcile the image and make it fully real. It's like those filters people use on snapchat and whatever to make their faces look unnatural. Even though I know what the real person looks like, my brain can't seem to fix their unnatural photo. But with the AI version of what you've already given us, my brain can remember what your original drawing looked like, and I can translate that to the "real" picture that my brain created from your artwork.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

I'm surprised you can read well enough to reply if this is your response.

ValdVin

Alex looks more attractive here than in the comic, which is something I never thought I'd say. But there is something...empty...in these, as others have noted.

William Caddell

I'm doing a book cover for a client. On a whim, I showed it to an ai and told it to do it better. It did it better. I am... I think discouraged is the right word.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

I'm sure that being able to spot AI images is some kind of survival warning.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

Yeah, it's weird to see something very much like how I see things in my head and yet wrong in a way that is off putting.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

Considering how I lost patrons for daring to post these that would probably be unwise.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

I suspect that hurdle will be overcome before long, but at present the dead look is obvious and disconcerting.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

Even so a real animator would fix the dead eyed look and it would have some soul put back in.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

I could probably edit these to fix the issues, but it's not worth is since basically no one has expressed any desire for this.

Jackie Wohlenhaus

I think the best use for AI in my case is making it show me how to set up lighting and things that I have trouble visualizing.

David

Absolutely, let's use ai for things that enhance humanity, not remove it

awgiedawgie

Jackie, if posting these was all it took to lose someone, I suspect they were planning on leaving anyway, and this was just their excuse. You made it clear you had no intention of changing how you do your art.

Ascender

I def don't aupport AI, but.... Some mixed body-type issues with Carol and Alex in there, interstingly. Jo and Jess seem to "translate" best, which is fine by me, Jo being my personal favorite...

NeoChomik

Generative AI is in the uncanny valley side of things, where it seems fine, but there's something off, something weird. A strange feeling you can't shake of... you used your own pieces on Grok and I'll be honest, almost None of the comic pages turned out better than the source. They feel soul-less and and very goofy (Oh no! they whitewashed Jo!). with the exception of those that seem like upscaling your work. It's a whole discussion we are not having! AI canot replace that tried and true Jackie wit and life experience

cee

AI always seems to get just enough wrong to stay in the Uncanny Valley for me, luckily ... with these (and often elsewhere too) it's the eyes, they seem out of alignment? Esp. for multcharacter pics - the 1000 mile stare is past the other character. Worth an experiment, but posed art won't replace storyline Jackie!!

Went Brown

I used AI recently and I see its potential.

Man in Black

I agree with the below commenter. AI is the future regardless of how we feel, might as well be familiar with it. Know thy enemy so to say.

TiredGerman

I'd say with the experiment concluded: Rendering of the characters is right, but as you pointed out it gets the details wrong: Eye alignment fails on the page itself and usually with no expression. Reggie just seems to alternate between Lupin III and half elf, which weirded me out the most. Anyways it still doesn't hold a candle to the real deal. But I also wonder for how long...

Captain Quandary

I feel like AI just becomes a new medium for a certain kind of artist. There are a bunch of things that are hard for ai, like consistent characters, which make it so you need special attention to get those parts right. There are tools for that, but then you're devoting time to tweak the art. I think AI can be used to produce great art that way, but not necessarily with less effort than drawing. It's not too different how with 3D modeling is a medium with distinct advantages to drawing (like scene reuse and character poseability), so gets used by some artists if they like it, but not everyone.

Detective Whiskers

Interesting seeing how the AI did without extensive training. It's kind of a marvel seeing yet another new technology grow. I remember when Photoshop was considered evil compared to traditional arts. I wasn't surprised in the least bit when AI was treated the same way, though a bit understandable, as AI affects the medium far more than digital tools ever have. I've watched a few artist dare dabble with it and spend time training the AI to help them speed up production and capture their style, only instead of sourcing everything scraped. I appreciate seeing you experimenting with it.

Ellie

This is really interesting to see, thank you for the experiment. (And it's also nice to see an artist who is not totally in denial about AI. I'm sure there are others but I haven't seen them talking about it.) I'm assuming you asked Grok to do the Pixar style, or was that what it came up with unprompted? It was also interesting to see it try to imitate your actual style -- close, but not quite right. More mass-market looking. And it's so frustrating (but not surprising) that it makes your fat ladies skinnier (except for the boobs), that's like half the point of your comic! I don't agree with the uncanny valley diagnosis, though, these images all look very commercial but not uncanny to me. Maybe I'm just not sensitive enough. I'm glad you are going to keep drawing the comic yourself, but tbh I'm here for the plot as much as the art, so as long as you don't let AI write the dialog unassisted, I'd keep reading. (As long as you don't switch to pixar 3d style, that's creepy in combination with the sexiness.)

Ellie

Also, Jackie, I'm curious what you think of Grok's attempt to render your style. Do you like it, hate it, in between?

Perfesser Bear

Huh. You cracked the whip and AI responded...

Norbert Jochim

No, I can't see trouble coming for you from this side.