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Hey Primos!

For those of you who have been on Patreon a while, you know that every year Primos come together to gift us something for our anniversary. This year, the “anniversary gift project leaders” pitched this idea to us a few months back & have planned the entire thing! From the date, location, itinerary, website and all for our 4th year anniversary. 🫰🏼

The hang out is FREE. If you’re in town for BTS already we’d love to meet you. 💖

If you have any questions about the meet & greet or the merch please reach out to that team that’s put it all together at ccw.eventsupport@gmail.com.

🫶🏼 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ccw-meet-greet-4th-year-anniversary-tickets-1989161856660https://ccw-merch.square.site/

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nina

this is so fun! i love that primos set this in motion 🥹 the surprises get bigger every year! sadly i won’t be able to make it since i’m driving out to dallas for bts on the day of the concert 😭 but i hope all this goes well and that everyone has a good time! 💜

lupita

* cries in LA primo* I hope everyone has an amazing time! I can't wait to see content from this day! @ Abby I nicely demand insta story updates lol

Serendipityinthesea

Fan sign???? This is cool and all but some things are making me raise my brows a little.

ImToda

Yeah same, I’m all for a lil fun and meeting up but signing and photocards? it’s kind of a little too much in my opinion

apobangpo0613

(not to deliberately be hateful or anything) it’s just a little off putting since they’re reactors 🤷‍♀️ But you do you I guess. If people enjoy it then that’s good for them 😅

KittyMeow

All for the m&g but why are we treating this like you’re idols.. with vip, fansign and pcs like I don’t mean to be rude but this just seems a little strange..?

Tetebread

well some primos do like it. haha it’s all for fun loosen up 😆 not like they are forcing anyone lol

apobangpo0613

Right!? Like the M&G is a fun little thing but all of this idol stuff is a little 🫣

Jayden

Heyo! If you have something you're unsure about, I'd be glad to help clear it up! 😊 A lot of this meet and greet is inspired by some from Asia meet and greets. And we thought it'd be fun to let some primos have a chance to interact 1 on 1 with CCW. As this is something that would interest us who planned the event. Though of course, no one has to go for VIP. The main event will still be a fun hang out that is free.

apobangpo0613

It’s obvious it’s inspired by k-pop fan meets and other asian meet and greets but that doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a little out of place. Again, if that’s what some people enjoy then so be it 🤷‍♀️ just making an observation.

Serendipityinthesea

You guys are really nice for organizing all of this but what made you think it was a great idea? CCW are bts reactors not celebrities. They are fans of bts just like us.So with all due respect I find it a bit odd if that makes sense.

yasmeen natalia 𝜗ৎ

so sad i won’t be in dallas until later that evening! i hope to meet you guys at the concert though! ✨💜 i hope everyone has lots of fun, what an amazing opportunity!

apobangpo0613

Nobody said they’re forcing anyone, just stating an observation 🤷‍♀️ if some people like it then thats good for them and I hope they have fun

Bora

You're missing the point. Yea, its inspired by Asia meet and greets, but this is what IDOLS do. Not reactors. One on one should be part of the free event? People have to pay to have a conversation with ccw? Pay for them to AUTOGRAPH something? This is so weird and out of touch!!!!!!!

lupita

I just want CCW to close comments and all of their posts/polls, some of ya'll are rude and complainers. It's like you all forget this is their channel they can run it however they'd like, post content at their pace, and have events! Keep in mind this is their first official event, and they have a team who kindly helped them arrange everything... I'm just excited for all the content, and I applaud them for all of their hard work. I honestly can't imagine working full time jobs, spending time with family/being parents, and on top of that navigating social media and creating content! That's a lot of work, and I appreciate them so much for the serotonin that they have given me these past couple of years! 💜

apobangpo0613

Nobody is trying to be rude, just making observations/sharing personal opinions. They don’t have to read the comments if they don’t want to and they don’t have to listen to the comments if they don’t want to. Disagreeing with someone doesn’t automatically make them rude 🤷‍♀️

Tetebread

some of u really lack some fun in life 😹 if u find the photocards, fansign, etc weird, then go. it’s all for a little fun which some of their supporters WANT. they are not forcing anything, the event is FREE lmao

Jayden

No worries I totally get that! We thought it would be a fun way to meet primos and hang out. Fanmeets always look like a blast, so we were inspired by them when it came to deciding things to do. PC's for us was a cute collectible thing that we wanted to do. The team and I would really want some of our own as just a fun little thing so we thought others would be interested as well. I love collecting things of my favorite youtubers, and this is basically that, so that was our thought process 💜 To answer your question again, we thought it would be fun because that is what would interest us. It's okay if you find it weird. We respect your point of view and of course what we have included in VIP won't interest everyone and that's okay.

Candy

Yeah not trying to be a hater meeting and having chit chats is cute but doing fan sign ummmm whoever came up with this idea maybe forgot that these ppl are just reactors lmfao

Tetebread

yeah yeah got it, u already made it clear that ure just stating an observation by replying / commenting to almost everyone here 😹

apobangpo0613

It’s their channel and they are going to run it how they want, some people are just sharing their opinions as paid viewers. If they care about those opinions then great, if they don’t then that’s also fine. Comments are a thing to provide an outlet for people’s responses, again, nobody is forcing them to read them or listen to them. 🫶🏼

lupita

The way some of these commenters blow up a lot of their posts is RUDE. Everyone is open to sharing their opinions, but they can be respectful whilst doing so!

Candace meow

You don't have to pay for anything. This is more towards if we have a big turn out. Things can very much change but this is tendered to if the entire event "sells" out. We have time constraints to abide by along with other activities we would want to do to make it fun.

Jenn

i’m glad i’m not the only one finding this a bit odd 😭 like, meet n greet is cute and all, but making it profitable is very icky imo

Tetebread

let people enjoy things lol. if u are not the target audience, then let people who like these kind of stuff (even from non-idols) enjoy.

MeiMeii

All profits made are going back into the event costs and supplies.

apobangpo0613

Well if people are going to keep bringing up “rude” comments, I am going to keep reinforcing that there are no ill intentions, just observations. I didn’t realize it was a crime to reply to more than one comment. Apologies if I offended you.

Ashley

Omg tell me why I thought the same thing?! Not to be shady to ccw, but in all honesty, this is overly doing too much. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Ashley

Exactly it’s giving weird. 🤨

tangerines

Dang, I'm feeling my age I guess, this is such a normal YouTuber meet & greet procedure for me, hahah. I've seen this type of thing done for small, medium, and large content creators over the years a million times. I'm failing to see what the fuss is about besides the wording obv being inspired by kpop meet and greets, I guess😅 Also, just to keep the facts straight, u do meet CCW face to face (for free), and the signed posters come with the GA access, so you're certainly not paying for that! :) Idk, I'm not remotely interested nor able to go, so I have no horse in this race, but I think it's bizarre how hostile the comments have been lately... If you don't like something, you don't have to always publicly voice it, especially in a place where you know the people it concerns will see it (when it's pointless like this, like the event is not gonna change at this point haha, and so many ppl are excited to go). It's like some people here reaaally want it to be known that CCW are not "special", or "celebrities", or "famous", or idk, deserving of love and support. They're not proclaiming that themselves, and they're not /demanding/ money from you... This is all really just some themed fun and an organized, controlled way to meet as many of their online friends and supporters as possible. I really don't see why, even if you find it "over the top" or "out of touch", that you need to voice that to them. Just move on with your day then. You're not the target audience clearly, lol😅

Tetebread

Your comments come across as passive-aggressive. You repeatedly call it "weird" and "giving koreaboo," then follow it with "good for them" and "I'm just making an observation." If that's your opinion, that's fine, but it doesn't read as neutral. Just go, u made ur point so u should be fine. 💜

Candace meow

Let's everyone take a breather. Its been explained the reasons. There's also been explanations that they aren't the only people who do things like this. We decided to do it this way and we stand by that decision. Alot of thoughts and ideas were from comments and messages we see that people would find funny or would want. Your opinion has been noted. I hope who ever can make it to the meet and greet comes and has a great time.

Bell

Exactly. I think a lot of people have the mindset that “we accept everything because it makes others or ourselves happy and anyone who disagrees is a bad person,” which i don't agree with. It would have been great if they had met up to chat with their “fans,” but doing it like celebrities do with VIP, autographs, and photocards seems a bit much to me

✨

I totally get the concept of a meet & greet because it would be fun to interact with people who share passion and love for the same thing as you (BTS). I just feel odd everytime they get treated as or behave like idols/BTS(?). Whenever they would always compare themselves to BTS for every small thing and put themselves at the same level. It was fun at first but it's starting to get weird and not be a joke anymore.

Amanda Michelle

Well said @tangerines. My goodness, it's obvious that there's NOTHING profitable, for CCW, in those 20 VIP tickets. $160 would probably only cover the cost of some photo cards or other materials...certainly not even the rent space. So, they will definitely be spending more than receiving just to host this event. The truth is, YouTubers ARE today's celebrities, either in a big or small way, they are who we watch nowadays. Who even turns on the TV for dramas, sitcoms, local or national news anymore? We don't. CCW, even though they are "just" BTS reactors, are my entertainment and they work and take time out of their days to deliver OUR REQUESTED content. So, some of y'all need to give them a break and recognize that in a small way they are celebrities....HUMBLE ones at that and some of us would love to meet them and share our stories. I hope I'll be able to go to this meet & greet, even though I'm going to the Day 2 concert.

Amanda Michelle

You all who are complaining about the "fan sign" thing...you obviously watch CCW's content and are paying for their Patreon subscription...are you NOT FANS? If not, then why are you here at all? I've said it before...CCW may not be nationally known celebrities, but to some people, they are, in fact, celebrities who provide great content, even globally. And many other BTS reactors have held events like this too, so bruh...chill out.

Serendipityinthesea

I think you’re missing the point a bit. Whether they profit a lot or not isn’t really the issue here. It’s more about what kind of space this is turning into. Yes, they put time into their content, but reacting to BTS was still a choice they made it’s not the same as building something original from the ground up. That’s why some people feel like a VIP meet and greet is a bit much in this context. And calling YouTubers “celebrities” doesn’t automatically justify everything they decide to do. There’s still a difference between enjoying someone’s content and creating a dynamic where fans are paying for personal access. If you’re comfortable with it, that’s completely your choice. But people feeling uneasy about it doesn’t mean they’re wrong either it just means they have different boundaries.

tangerines

It makes me sad that you don't think establishing and fostering a community based around enjoying music, culture, and entertainment together in a safe space doesn't count as building something from the ground up. (equally, that you think this would be the only metric that validates CCW receiving love and attention). I don't know, but people are not subscribed to this Patreon just to watch bts content hahha. They could do that on their own: they're here because they enjoy the army-journey of CCW, their insightful or funny commentary, and bc they want to keep up with /them/ as they discover bts. Maybe a lot of people are caught in the social media bug of throwing ”parasocial” around like a misused buzzword, or you just don’t personally value this space very much besides some light entertainment? And that's fine, but why spend so much time and energy talking down the people who are excited for it and CCW for organizing it (after years of requests from those people)? And again, let's keep the facts straight at least: it's not a "VIP meet and greet", it's free. The VIP is a special perk like SO MANY other events have, and I would say that 20$ is prob earned back by the free gifts and merch, lol. No one is "paying for personal access". It's a "meet and greet"! Everyone who shows up will meet CCW. For free😅 it's not like they're gonna stand in a cage and have everyone walk by and wave only lol, they'll all be in the same room for hours, I'm SURE that if you desire to have a lil 1-1 chat with CCW, you'll succeed in that throughout the day. Again, I literally have 0 interest in going myself, I just don't understand all this dog-piling and "no offense, but"...

Serendipityinthesea

You missed my point once again but it’s okay. My problem is the way they are treating it like an idol fan sign. The meet and greet is fine. Anyways I wont continue this conversation anymore. Believe what you want its your opinion after all and it wont change just like mine.

ivette

Btw for anyone complaining about this, Army is such a huge fan base meaning CCW have a huge fan base following them & many army WANT to personally meet them & an organized schedule like this might be the best way to do it! If this isn’t something you’re interested in then great this event isn’t aimed for you, & just move on! :) a lot of big reactors with big followings do these types of events all the time btw! This is truly harmless and just a cool & fun opportunity to meet many people who look up to CCW and their content. Anywayssss Much love CCW & best of luck at your M&G 🫰🏼💜

Bora

They are not celebrities. And you thinking so is the problem here.

Bora

Anytime someone disagrees with something someone has to pull the "you just don't understand fun" card....

Bora

Some of you can't ever handle criticism of anyone

Tetebread

Well, because the whole point of the event is to have fun. 😅 Nobody's saying you can't disagree. It's just that this is a free, optional event, so if it's not your thing, it's pretty easy to move on and let the people who enjoy it enjoy it. 😄

Andrew Hitchcock

there is literally no problem here. why can't they be celebrities to some people? Why does this effect you so much you have to comment all over this post about it?

Bora

I'm not the only one here commenting multiple times. You just point me out because I disagree with you lol. Army has a problem with seeing anyone that reacts to bts as a celebrity. Its a problem because then these people that we're already paying for make us pay for more when that isn't right. This is a huge reason why reactors that aren't genuine appear! Because they want the money! They're using the actual celebrities we love to make more money. The actual celebrities that feed us creative and personal content. The celebrities that don't sit in front of a camera as their job reacting to actual celebrities.

nina

no one is making you pay for anything lol you’re here of your own free will paying for a subscription just like people have free will and can buy a vip tier for the meet and greet. it’s still a free event that army can go to without spending a single dollar just like you can watch ccw videos without spending a single dollar. but god forbid reactors with a fan following try doing something fun 😮‍💨 reactors who actively support the tannies and even do concert ticket giveaways for primos. but sure ccw are evil and money hungry and they’re forcing us to give them money 🙄

Candy

damnnn ppl on youtube are eating y'all up as well LMFAO

nina

mind you in this digital age we live in, content creators and social media personalities do have some level of fame. no obviously not like bts level of fame but they do have a fan following. ccw has over 150k subscribers on youtube alone and thousands of more here on patreon and on other social media platforms. youtubers do meet and greets all the time and many of them sell merch. again if you don’t like that aspect of modern culture, that’s fine! but yes this is in fact normal in today’s age. and mind you this was an event put together by other primos because again, this is in fact a common thing other content creators do so no one thought it was weird until some of y’all made it weird by comparing them to bts themselves 😭 this is a fun event and no one is forcing anyone to buy anything so if you have nothing nice to say then just move along 🤷🏻‍♀️ and also thank god for the block button 💜

nina

honestly the way they talk about ccw is what is the REAL ick around here. hopefully this all leads to some kind of fandom cleanse and these so called primos can move on to someone else and leave ccw alone.

lupita

and some of you can't handle not being able to criticize and control every little thing (:

lupita

THIS !!! at their grown age too, I agree!! a cleanse is needed !

Lamya

Damn why people so harsh no one forced u to go or to buy anything! let them do what they want with people who enjoy this kind of stuff!

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

I would love to go to the meet and greet. You guys are my favorite reactors. Unfortunately I live in other country and can not make it. I hope you guys and primos have lots of fun hanging out! P.S: if I had the money I would colect all CCW photocards just to piss the "don't go thinking you are important, you are not a celebrity" people off. Aparently people lost the ability to scroll past and ignore things that are not for them. Live and let live means nothing to some people.

Bora

My point shown: you can't handle criticism. You say at their grown age yet you can't handle people disagreeing with the people you love. Like sorry, not everyone's going to have the same opinions as you. Also no one's making demands, so no there's no controlling. We're giving an opinion.

Vicky Flo

Aww I’m driving in and won’t be there until that afternoon

minicookieot7

I won't be going to the TX show but have fun!!

wen

🤣😭

J'aime les carottes

Hello, I've been following your channel since the beginning. I love your work and your personality, you radiate positivity. I hope your meet-and-greets with fans are going well. Unfortunately, I can't be there,I'm French and I live in France. Maybe one day I'll make the trip. Take care of yourself; you are wonderful people.

Mahek

And for no reason, grow up

Tetebread

not u acting like it’s a gotcha moment. yall are so dramatic over an event which is totally optional lmao

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

YOU Bora are the one that can not handle different opinions. You already made your opinion loud and clear, several times over. Yet you are on several fans of CCW comments because according to you "CCW are not celebrities and you are weird for being their fan". We GET IT already. To you only celebrities deserve fans and you think we are weird. Your opinion changes nothing for us, so accept it and MOVE ON. You could either ignore the OPTIONAL FREE event and those of us who are CCW fans or unsubscribe and look for a reactor agreeable to you. NO ONE is forcing you to pay a cent for ANYTHING. Not even patreon. You are free to ignore the event and you can leave whenever you want. If this is only about giving your opinion, You already did that, We all read it. Now please stop harrassing CCW and us, their fans, in the comments. We loving them is not your problem. THIS EVENT IS NOT FOR YOU. You said your piece, now Ignore us and live your life, that will not change a bit cause of us, and LET US ENJOY OURSELVES HOW WE WANT TO without you judging us and trying to hammer your opinion over and over on us in the comments. We. Do. Not. Care. You. Think. Us. Weird. Go live your life and let CCW and us be.

PK

I’ve been following this channel since the early days, which is probably why this announcement hit differently for me. What drew me to the channel was seeing a group of genuine fans sharing their excitement and love for BTS. I never questioned that, and honestly that’s why I stayed. I understand that content creation takes time and effort, and I have no issue with memberships, Discord, Patreon, or creators earning money from their work. But meet & greets, fan-signs, and paid one-on-one interactions feel like something entirely different. For the first time, I found myself questioning where the line is between being fans of an artist and building a fan culture around yourselves. Maybe that’s just me, and everyone is free to support whatever they enjoy. But as a longtime viewer, this genuinely changed how I see the channel.

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

Even though I do not agree witth you, I appreciate you giving your opinion without being rude. Some people need to learn how to do this. I am also with CCW since 2022 and these optional things Change nothing for me. But I am someone who is a lot more into Youtubers than TV/movies celebrities. I am a fan of several Youtubers in different "subjects". This kind of events and merch is common in youtubers followings. There are even conventions for Youtubers. So to me I am a bit surprised by your and some people's reactions to this optional free meet and greet (not only the event is optional but the VIP, fansign, merch is all optional and no one has to spend a cent if they do not want to). But if you are not into youtubers I understand it can feel weird and out of place even. I appreciate you being polite about us that are CCW fans.

Cycology SPIN and MORE

I'm think me and my fiend are gonna miss because we are driving in on Friday from MS! 😩 I was just as excited to get to meet y'all as seeing BTS again! Y'all are a huge part of my daily life!!! Oh I'm praying we find yall at the concert!! At least I know you'll video everything!! So sad I will miss!! It's just like Pied Piper! I went to the Tuesday concert in Tampa and they played Pied Piper on that Sunday before!!! Soooo close!!! Aghhh

Naina

This comment section is ridiculous. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a VIP entry pass, so if it’s not your thing, just move on. It’s like what Jungkook said about mint chocolate: just because you don't like it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. You can just choose a different flavor. If you don't agree with the VIP concept, you don't need to spread so much negativity. I'm sure you can find a better use of your time literally anywhere else.

Serendipityinthesea

You should maybe also take Jungkook’s advice and realize that just because you don’t see an issue with something doesn’t mean everyone else has to stay quiet about it.

Tetebread

and this is a harmless issue 🤣🤣🤣 you’ll live

Serendipityinthesea

To you maybe it is but not to all the other people on here. And since its a harmless issue for you why are you so bothered to answer every person commenting about it? You should go find another hobby. I dont like being mean or rude but ive had it.

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

You've had it with what? You said your opinion already: It's not for you. You don't like this idea. You don't think youtubers should be treated as celebrity. NOTED. Now move on. Leave the rest of us that are fans of CCW and want to participate be. If you don't like it, FINE, no problem at all. We can accept that. But some people that share your opinion seem honestly bothered by the fact that some us like the idea, want to participate in it and we are fans of CCW. I respect that is not for you, but please respect that it is for us.

Serendipityinthesea

Im responding to the people bashing our opinions. If you want to go thats totally fine but I don’t appreciate people always coming for those of us that express our opinions and concerns. It’s not a new its been happening for a long time now. Say one thing that doesn’t necessarily include a compliment and get attacked by multiple people. Anyways im moving on like you said.

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

This person here is not bashing your opinion. They are bashing the people that feel the need to be rude about giving their opinion. It's possible to say you don't like something without being rude. Some did and I appreciate that. But lots of people are really not doing that at all (I am not saying it's you). Some people even accused CCW of doing extorsion. Like what? The event is free, and everything about the event is optional. People can say that something is not for them while respecting that other people are happy about it and want to participate in it. I respect that this is not for you. But I also would like other people here to state their opinion whithout making it sound like an attack or accusation.

Bora

Stop policing people and how they feel. We're consumers that can give out our opinions.

Bora

L o l. I can handle other opinions. I'm not telling people they can't go! I'm not telling people they can't say they want to go! YOU are telling people that share their opinions that they're ridiculous. I have never told anyone in here that they shouldn't give their opinions. Me disagreeing with someone does not equal me not handling criticism. I have simply stated ccw are doing something weird and that ccw aren't the celebrities you make them out to be. THAT is the difference between you and me. "Move on" you're literally in every comment section and damn near every reply saying your opinion on people disagreeing. If I am to move on then you should too lol. The hypocrisy. I haven't even come at you for being all up in this comment section nor anyone else yet two people including you have told me I am in here too much. Look at yourself bestie. "We get it, move on" more evidence you cant take criticism. I'm not telling people to move on. We are CONSUMERS therefore we HAVE AN OPINION. I can speak as much as I want because newsflash that is my right. You can be all prissy about it all you want, but its not slowing me down. You clearly care when you're replying to me. If you didn't you would have scrolled on. Yea i think you're weird, but I'm not telling you you can't speak on something you desire to.

Ray

The thousands of subscribers paying for the patreon memberships can very much cover these events and more - no need for extra charges. I love ccw reactions and followed them since day one. Its one thing to organize a meet & greet thats open to all and genuinely use that to meet people, but creating these separate accesses that others pay for on top of that just for your regular meeting with regular people is a bit odd. "VIP" access and early entry and what not, is out of place.

Tetebread

Their issue is the silly “idol-like” gimiks that was meant to be a fun interaction between ccw and their supporters 🤣 Like…. Okay I get it, they’re not celebrities but this is all for fun!!! They built a community and just thought that this would be a fun silly interaction. Everything was already explained - where the $20 would go, the optional VIP tier, whatever. And for someone who doesn’t like the idea (and are not even forced/planned to attend in the first place), they’re still here. We get it. You find it weird, it’s not for you, you made your point, now move on. Go out, have some fun with your friends, use your energy to something else that matters. Leave this post to those who would like to participate in this. They’re making it sound like ccw did something really bad and it’s just a m&g with optional tiers 🤣

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

Yes I do care when someone is rude to someone I like. Yes, I replied to multiple people explaining the m&g is free, that CCW is not forcing anyone to spend a cent on the optionals, and they can be ignored. I also explained that the label "celebrity" changes from person to person, because I do not watch TV, I watch Youtube so Youtubers are MY "TV stars". There is a difference between giving your opinion and thinking other's opinions are a problem. Find and post here a SINGLE post of mine where I told anyone they could not give their opinion and/or they are ridiculous for giving their opinion. Find it, GO ON, I will wait. But do you recognize this comment: "They are not celebrities. And you thinking so is the problem here. " Your comment! Why is it a problem to YOU who WE consider celebrities when it does not affect your life in any way, shape or form? Talking about hipocrisy in "not tolerating different opinions". This comment sure does sound like you can not "handle" our opinion if you see it as a problem to you. Now this is MY comment posted 22h ago ( 18h BEFORE you replied to me) to the user PK (you can see their comments if you scroll) that has a different opínion than mine but expressed in a very polite way: "Even though I do not agree witth you, I appreciate you giving your opinion without being rude. Some people need to learn how to do this. I am also with CCW since 2022 and these optional things Change nothing for me. But I am someone who is a lot more into Youtubers than TV/movies celebrities. I am a fan of several Youtubers in different "subjects". This kind of events and merch is common in youtubers followings. There are even conventions for Youtubers. So to me I am a bit surprised by your and some people's reactions to this optional free meet and greet (not only the event is optional but the VIP, fansign, merch is all optional and no one has to spend a cent if they do not want to). But if you are not into youtubers I understand it can feel weird and out of place even. I appreciate you being polite about us that are CCW fans. " Now, where did I call PK (or anyone else) ridiculous and said they should shut up and not state their opinion again? But YOU are going on CCW fans comments calling us weird, calling our reasons for liking the idea "stupid excuses" and saying our opinion on celebrity is a problem. A problem to whom? Me saying to you "We get it, move on" is not me saying "you should never have said your opinion", it's me saying "I saw all your posts, I understand you do not agree with us, noted. Now can we stop this pointless discussion?" Are you going to reply saying how you did not read my long comment (as you already did in other comments) while bragging about how YOU can "handle" different opinions? P.S: In case you are reading, Just to encourage you to find any comment of mine where I "tell someone they are ridiculous for giving their opinion and they should NOT give their opinion" I promise that if you can find one I will formally apologize to the person I supposedly said that to.

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

P.S 2: I will agree with you on something: I need to move on too. CCW made very clear the m&g is free and everything else is optional and only for the people that have interest in it. Many of us also explained it many times. If people like you are still bothered by the simple fact that we, ccw fans, exist and are happy with the m&g and we are the target audience CCW made all of that for, there is nothing I can do about it. So, Yes, I need to let go.

Anne See Park

This looks so fun!! Too bad I’m in the Philippines. Hope someone vlogs this event! Enjoyyy

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

And just for information for anyone that think youtubers are not celebrities here are a couple of things to look up: 1. Vidcon, a paid youtubers convention with panels, meet & greets, etc. YES youtube reactors are also part of it; 2. Youtubers/Influencers trovatrips, where you pay to travel with your fave Youtuber. One of my faves, Becca and the books (she is not an author or a critic, she just reads books and comments on them), just did one to South Korea and I wish I had the money to take part in it. (https://youtu.be/MriWhWqH8Hc?si=te4rYI4XsN1bALyy)

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

Hi, I was just giving this info to someone else and thought this may be relevant to you too. I am not trying to say you should enjoy this things if you don't. Not at all. I am just showing that these events are very common on the Youtube/Influencers community. "Just for information for anyone that think youtubers are not celebrities here are a couple of things to look up: 1. Vidcon, a paid youtubers convention with panels, meet & greets, etc. YES youtube reactors are also part of it; 2. Youtubers/Influencers trovatrips, where you pay to travel with your fave Youtuber. One of my faves, Becca and the books (she is not an author or a critic, she just reads books and comments on them), just did one to South Korea and I wish I had the money to take part in it. "(https://youtu.be/MriWhWqH8Hc?si=te4rYI4XsN1bALyy)

Bora

Me saying someone has a problem with calling ccw a celebrity is not me being unable to handle criticism. Its a disagreement again. Yea saying people are weird is dismissive and rude, but that has NOTHING to do with criticism. Its just a personal judgement. I am not saying they can't speak if they want. I am not telling them to move on omg. Did you even read my comment. Yea I get you think they're celebrities. I'm not going through all that again. I typed why I said what I said and yet you're asking me why I think thats a problem. Reading comprehension. Go back to where i said why its a problem. Me not handling criticism would have been if I said "Nobody asked for your opinion." Or "stop posting your opinion". Also it wasn't even criticism to begin with. Saying ccw are celebrities to people isn't criticism. Its an observation/claim. Maybe you didn't say someone was ridiculous, but you're telling me to move on and not speak what I want to. I read all you wrote by the way. Now kindly stop replying to me because you're annoying as hell and can't understand the difference between disagreements and being unable to take criticism. And no me asking you to stop isnt me being unable to handle criticism before you inevitably type that shit out. I'm simply tired of talking to you because it will get no where. Goodbye

Candy

Not ts example getting backfired lmfao gurl

BN

I think you guys should do whatever you and the Primos enjoy! I will admit the meet and greet schedule makes me feel a bit strange. I’ve been a really early follower of y’all and that always made me feel like you guys are friends and accessible and approachable (while respecting your space and privacy and time of course). But the term “fansign” introduces a distance and I guess that’s what psychologically drives the strange feeling. I think it’s mostly wording/framing/presentation rather than the event itself. And maybe this is a natural progression as your platform expands. It’s just that I used to see us as fellow fans and now it feels like I’m supposed to be a fan of an influencer/youtube celebrity. I’m just sharing this as my perspective, not criticism! Maybe there’s a positive spin on this, about my favorite small reaction channel moving on to bigger things :) There seem to be plenty of Primos who are excited and I’m happy for them ❤️ PS: Never had a problem with merch/paid content or anything. You guys spend a lot of time and effort on this, it makes total sense.

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

Please, no need to be rispid. Yes, I defend people that I like, that's clear. But that was just an informational post. I did not even mention CCW in that particular comment. And that was because that comment was not especificaly about them, but about Youtube culture. I was just sharing information tid bits that I thought relevant about a topic that I like. As I said before I do not watch TV at all, I only watch BTS and Youtube and that's it really. So Youtube is something I am interested in. Sorry for getting over eager to share info on a topic that interests me I guess. I posted this info in other comment and thought " hey, may be that person might find this info curious/relevant too". So I pasted it here too In case anyone does not know about the existence of things like vidcon and trovatrips. Because from the comment section it looked like some people didn't. I am not trying to "convert" anyone to these kinds of events. There's no need to read too much into it. I was just saying "hey, look at the kind of Youtuber things that exist". Sorry if is not a topic of interest to you or the OG post. My intention was not pushing my interests on anyone, it really was just sharing info I thought interesting and relevant. Reading back the post may be I should have edited the post more instead of just pasting my comment from other discussion here too. Maybe that would have made things clearer.

Min Ha Na

Opinions whether good or bad are important. However, it's how you say it and when you say it matters. If the timing is off or the words used are wrong, opinions can be received as something negative and rude. Just my two cents.

Serendipityinthesea

We are not responsible for how grown people in the comments or CCW interpret our comments. Reading comments will always be ambiguous since you cant really hear the tone of the person saying it. Also ive seen a bunch of polite people here or on patreon say their opinions and still get called rude and get attacked. So I see what you mean but unfortunately thats not how it is.

emx

Love how you said it, PK! I agree with you and totally relate. and this thread has been eye opening for me honestly, thanks to the people who commented about the YT community etc.

shahirah

💯 agree with you. you know what, i think what shiki has been telling us before is true. Tbh Idk if i want to continue my membership after this. Everything seems so weird

l

i am NOT a fan 😂 i am here to watch people fall in love with BTS the way i did. just like i do with friends irl.

l

i love meeting armys and bts listeners in general but a fansign for people who also love and watch bts like i do, is odd. but i guess its a good thing its optional.

Ida Wi

I would genuinely be sad if CCW got cancelled because I have enjoyed your reactions - it often feels like rewatching BTS content with friends, but historically, things do not bode well for BTS reactors when they (obviously) shift into business expansion and income generation mode. Ironically, in true CCW fashion (and skills), this is probably one of the most put together foray into that I have seen. I wish you well surviving the storm on the horizon, & hope that most will see it as just an ill-advised (genuinely, I wish your older ARMY guides did a better job of advising better wording or framing of the event) fun activity. Will stick around for a bit longer, but am hoping that CCW will course correct soon because this path you seem to be walking seems less and less flowery

Geórgia Cordeiro Dantas

As expected you could not find a single post of mine telling anyone "Nobody asked for your opinion." Or "stop posting your opinion" or "you are ridiculous". But somehow is ok for you to call us weird and be, as you said yourself, judgemental. Saying someone opinion is a problem IS not accepting that opinion. Is a problem to whom exactly? Who that opinion is harming? It's funny you criticize me for replying when you are replying to almost everyone that posts support to CCW with your "criticism". If you read my comment you saw that I also expained why I said MOVE ON. I will paste it here in case you forgot: " Me saying to you "We get it, move on" is not me saying "you should never have said your opinion", it's me saying "I saw all your posts, I understand you do not agree with us, noted. Now can we stop this pointless discussion?" What you said was CCW are not celebrities, people acting like they are is a probem. Why who OTHER people see as a celebrity is a problem to anyone else, unless that 'celebrity' is harming them, is where I fail to understand you. It's also funny how now you are hijacking the "will you stop?" narrative when I was the one to ask you for us to drop this pointless discussion in the first place. And you labeled my attempt as me trying to "stop you from speak what you want". And NOW you ask me "to kindly stop replying" because is going nowhere. Oh, the irony. There were some very nice people in the comments saying how this event is not for them and how it changes things for them, whithout passing judgement or being rude to anyone else. I applaud them and respect their opinion, I hope you learn from them the difference between giving your opinion and being rude and judgemental. There is a difference between disagreement and criticism, but there's also a difference between "constructive criticism" and "rude criticism". Well, the weirdo and annoying person here am going to follow my own advice and move on.

Bora

Just coming to say i wasnt judging you on posting a lot here. Of course my point flies over your head as does all of my other points. I pointed you posting everywhere because you judged me doing so. I was pointing out the hypocrisy babes. The way I never said I accepted anotheds opinion lol. Just making shit up. Idc if you want to stop a discussion, you dont get to tell people to quit telling their opinions. It sounds like you're whining when you do. Like boo hoo grow up you'll live if your beloved reactors get criticized. Not even ironic that I told you to quit. It was for a completely different reason. You really cannot think critically can you? I said the conversation is getting no where whereas you're telling me to stop because you don't like my opinion and you're tired of the criticism. I have always known the difference between an opinion and being judgemental :) just because I judge doesnt mean I dont understand when I'm being judgemental lmao at least I can acknowledge when im wrong unlike you. At least I can understand the difference between two different things unlike you.

cuesegue .

Waited for a bit to consider the comments here and I just don't understand the point of most of them. If you're not going, not paying anything or purchasing anything, essentially having nothing to do with it at all, why bother commenting? What is the end goal with the comment? Sharing your opinion is a bit odd if you have absolutely nothing to do with the event or its contents. It seems that the majority are sharing their comments because they "have a right to share their opinion" but honestly what is the point in doing so if there's no end game in mind? Honestly it just looks like hectoring without cause or purpose. Why can't people just let others live? Everyone is different, just because something is not your idea of acceptable doesn't mean it's not acceptable. By this point people seem to piling on just to ruin their vibe and its a bit cruel to spoil someone else's harmless fun because you all have a different opinion. The old adage "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" are still words to consider before commenting on anything yeah?

Embemm Slanky

i like our content meet n greet for have fun for bts content its ok but vip? fansign? and photocard ? oh my gosh

Mahek

It’s true the other person seems jobless trying to defend CCW like maybe go do work, cook something nice for yourself, go for a nature stroll like do something yk?