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thanks for attending this 3 hour robust dynamic conversation

those who came late and left early also beloved, beloved souls with schedules

here's the rec list courtesy of our eminent moderator ellen

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- CJ recommendation: Douglas Rushkoff’s podcast episode “Leaving X and Social Media Behind” 

- Fill out the “Kill All Normies” book report survey! 

- "Lila’s Child” featuring Pirsig’s annotations/notes on Metaphysics of Quality forum posts. Nearly unreadable but only nearly! 

- John Dewey’s “Art as Experience” for the third town hall in a row

- George’s friends’ improvised livestream puppet shows- Mia Cole’s two videos about Twitter: TWITTER SINS and terminally online. - Masahiro Sakurai’s YouTube video “Keep Your Internal Pressure High” 

- Ricardos’s recommendation re: talking about ideas before finishing them kills creative momentum: 

- Kevin’s book recommendation “The Big Sort by Bill Bishop”, about how community bubbling promotes different kinds of division. NOT that Ryan Gosling movie about the housing crisis. 

- Kevin’s Seattle chess space recommendation

- Kevin’s recommendation: intimate and detailed chronicle of the Homesick discord, “Several People Are Typing.”  

- Josh’s handmade coming of age ceremony 

- John Green’s book “The Anthropocene Reviewed” 

- Ricardo’s recommendation about accountability: Lily Alexander’s video “Transition Regret & the Fascism of Endings.” 

- Halley’s recommendation: “What do prisons do” 

- Jonas Čeika, the guy: YouTube channel (CCK Philosophy) and book “How to Philosophise With a Hammer and Sickle.”  

- Pragmatist philosopher Hilary Putnam 

- Psychologist Rollo May 

- Ricardo’s recommendation for a video on the debate about values in science: “Philosophies of Science - Values in Science” 

- Nicholas Carr’s “The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains” 

- Hannah Arendt, “The Human Condition” 

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George Tee

Bo Burnham also has an interview with Douglas Rushkoff on the internet!! watched it ages ago, just remember bo talking about how rushkoff is constantly saying these terrifying concepts about social media with a huge grin on his face. Remember it being fun

ellen

sorry for ending it early guys I just needed to get more work done on this multihour video on Jordan Peterson I'm hoping to publish on March 21st

Jo

This was fun ! Also because I didnt really say anything about Arendts Book except for the name ( "the human condition" also known as "Vita Activa" ) and dont think thats really a great pitch in and of itself, heres good video summary of the basic ideas of the book (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA0JXEzQrZM) and an example from the preface of why I think that this book nominally about the philosophy of action, written in 1957 !!! is so relevant to the current moment ( and resonates well with the Lanier book specifically aswell): "The trouble concerns the fact that the "truths" of the modern scientific world view, though they can be demonstrated in mathematical formulas and proved technologically, will no longer lend them-selves to normal expression in speech and thought. The moment these "truths" are spoken of conceptually and coherently, the resulting statements will be "not perhaps as meaningless as a 'triangular circle,' but much more so than a 'winged lion' " (Erwin Schrodinger). We do not yet know whether this situation is final. But it could be that we, who are earth-bound creatures and have begun to act as though we were dwellers of the universe, will for-ever be unable to understand, that is, to think and speak about the things which nevertheless we are able to do. In this case, it would be as though our brain, which constitutes the physical, material condition of our thoughts, were unable to follow what we do, so that from now on we would indeed need artificial machines to do our thinking and speaking. If it should turn out to be true that knowledge (in the modern sense of know-how) and thought have parted company for good, then we would indeed become the help-less slaves, not so much of our machines as of our know-how, thoughtless creatures at the mercy of every gadget which is technically possible, no matter how murderous it is." Prologue Page 3

Evelyn G

Loved seeing everyone's faces and getting to 'meet' people for the first time. I can't wait for You Are Not a Gadget!

turkeedurkee

glad to have been a part of it, it was so great meeting everyone!! expect some juicy retroactive book comments from me soon

Just Connor

so happy to be apart of my first kti town hall! it was a really weird experience but also really fun.