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Hey guys, I'm toying around with another potential change to the voting system.  So far you've been filling out a form where you can check as many boxes as you want.  This has the positive side of negating the split-vote problem that arises in a system where people can only vote once and, for example, two Final Fantasy (or otherwise similar) games are nominated.  The downside however is that all votes are ranked equally, so your top choice is getting the same benefit as your 8th choice if  you choose to vote on so many things.

So here I propose the option of ranking your choices.  It gives you more control, promoting your top choices more, but it's also a bit overwhelming.  Let's see whether you can all make sense of this form to begin with, then at the bottom you can vote on whether you think this is an improvement or not.  Please feel free to discuss your thoughts in the comment section here.

Real Patreon game vote tomorrow!

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Ranked Choice Test

This is a test for a potential voting system. The goal is to allow people to rank their choices instead of giving everything an equal value, increasing the accuracy of the results. Select the bubble for "1" for your top choice, then continue in descending order according to favor.

Comments

dmynerd78

I really like the concept but with the amount of games there are per poll I think it might make it more confusing. Plus it's harder to see how each game is ranked quickly.

Vinccool96

If 10 was the top choice, you only need to add the points and you would easily know which one is chosen

GooGhoul

Ranking is a 0/10 from me. I'd give the current system 6.5/10. The old choose one system a 1/10. If we used a rating system that'd be 10/10. Scoring things /10 would mean no split-vote, and give more control, letting you promote the game you love by how much you love them, and let it known if you really dislike any games too. And I think it's simpler than ranking too.

Dannish

It's interesting. I don't think it's good or bad.

Alejandro

The problem I had with it was that if I selected two options in a column the form wouldn't pass and I couldn't unselect it, I agree a rating system might be better but then the amount of columns would have to match the amount of rows or allow a NA option/deselect that has no limit (don't know if it's possible with current form), otherwise it's pretty cumbersome if you misclick

Apuis Retsam

So we are basically switching from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting</a> to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting</a>. I think that this is change for the better. Although, the question is how are you going to calculate the result. Are you just going to assign weights for the votes or to use some more sophisticated system like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote</a>?

potatolie

I like the concept. I think there still needs to be a number that means 'not interested', so I'd prefer 0-10 with 10 as the highest and then the highest score wins. I think without a 0 option it's too easy to accidentally click on an option and it doesn't seem like you can unclick once you've picked something - you have to pick something in that row once you've made a selection per row. I'm not sure how easy it is to set up different voting schemes though.

Gustav Sulingga Wahrberg

I think it works fine, but the issue of not being able to unselect an option would be annoying. If you accidentally select a score for a game you don't care of at all you can't not vote for it unless you reload the poll.

blalo'u

I feel like this is a much better system for gauging what people *really* want. I feel like there's a lot of people who want X game "oh my god yes now" and then also look at Y classic game and go "Eh, sure, why not." With the current system there's no real way to express your order of wishes, but games that will always garner a "sure why not" reaction from a wide swath of people are kind of destined to win. At least this way we get a way to influence the poll that isn't a binary yes/no.

GooGhoul

I noticed the option: I see this change as an improvement. I see this change as a mistake. But if your confused or dislike this change you wouldn't make as far as this so it's baised in favour of people saying it's an improvement.

GooGhoul

Huh, apparently I can submit my response with only 2nd , 3rd and 5th place selected. That shouldn't be allowed right?

Shoveldale

Watch Zelda still win anyway

Aestarion

I don't know about how this would change the results - as, as others have stated, it depends on how you count the votes - but I find it harder to use. If you rate something and didn't want to, you cannot unselect it and if you want to change your order, you need to change everything because of the "one selection per column" policy. If would find a notation system (multiple same ranks allowed) more user-friendly than a voting system, but I don't know if it wouldn't be abusable or anything…

Pascal Laprade

I really like this voting system called “Majority judgment”: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_judgment" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_judgment</a>. It has the advantage of allowing lot of nuance in preferences, and tries to discourage strategic voting. This means that everyone could vote for what they really like accordingly. Also, it would fit nicely on mobile, as you could use a drop down to display the choices, instead of rows of radio buttons. (Also, it could make for a cool animation when you reveal the winner, because you stack the choices in a 100% scale, then draw a line at the median to determine the winner ^^)

Justin Huang

I like the system but I couldn't figure out how you are going to pick the winner other than visually some have higher spikes.

Nikki

The idea is sensible, but I know at least for myself that such ranked choices can feel overwhelming fast. I'd try to limit it to two or three ranks, and it should be possible to just check none (as before).

GooGhoul

You urgently need to randomise the order of the choices if you use this system. Ranked choice has a strong order effect of ballot position, since lots of people will just fill out the ranks in the same order as listed giving the top spot a big advantage.