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I'm going to start the process of moving over from the paid post model to the monthly flat rate model. I believe Patreon is doing away with the pay per post model. In doing so I'm having to square away the different tiers, which currently only serve as a "pay what you want" model where everyone could pay a dollar for every post I charge for but a lot of you are willing to give more, and I'm eternally grateful for that generosity.

There will still be three tiers once this page is updated. Pinup tier will be 5$ and get you access to weekly pinups. Comic tier will be 10$ and it gives you access to comic pages and pinups. Animation tier will be 20$ and you'll have access to animations, comic pages and pinups.

I'm providing a sort of placeholder calendar for you all to visualize how a month of support may go depending on your selected tier. This is a lot of work but it's doable. Posts may shift a day or come early depending on how efficient I am at finishing the work. I want to provide the right level of content to make your support affordable and also provide enough value in return.

Please comment down below if you understand, and any feedback or ideas to make this work more effectively are always welcome.

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Arjuna Pandava

I think if you're consistent, this can really work out well for you. This seems ambitious but if you have a clear plan/goals, then by all means go for it. I probably won't be able to afford some of the higher tiers that I may want, but if the price comes down or my finances improve I I'd be down. I've been a fan since the John Person days and I hope to be a fan for awhile longer.

Jonathan Bravo

How often are you going to be posting ? Cause it’s been a pretty long dry spell ? With occasional posts here and there

b

I think this makes plenty of sense, my only thought is maybe the tiers can be split by posting frequency rather than the type of content? Might be more work on your end but the cadence wouldn't change from the calendar but it maybe provides more variety from the consumer side?

b

Very specific but I find myself in a situation where I do enjoy the animations a lot when they're posted but I'm not sure if for me personally they'd be worth double the price of the comic+pinup tier

b

Also worth noting, this is a very aggressive posting schedule, maybe 1st and 3rd weeks are MWF and 2nd and 4th are TT? if you're concerned for your own capacity

Supersano12

I've always enjoyed your work, so sticking around at $5 a month would be fine with me. Probably wouldn't upgrade to higher tiers unless there's a few months of consistent posts in those tiers. I know it will be great stuff once it arrives!

TheofficialPIT

That's a fair assessment. I too hope I can deliver to this level and I'm going to do my best.

TheofficialPIT

Do you think animations fit better as a second tier offering and having comic pages reserved for the highest tier makes more sense? Still feeling this whole plan out based on feedback.

TheofficialPIT

I would be pushing for 3 a week, a pinup, comic page and an animation. That's the plan at least.

MagneticEntanglement

This is a ambitious work schedule your setting here. Cant lie im kinda excited and I'd be willing to catch on as a 20 dollar per month. But I think you have to one more thing to really make it worth it for folks. Just talk more often to us man! We friggin miss you and dont hear from you for months at a time. I for one wanna know how your doing man, what games your playing or if you been watching any movies or shows recently. For god sakes dog, im scared one day you arent gonna respond and well never know your left this earth like with fenris.

b

I think it's just the pricepoint of 20 for me. At 15, I'm all in for animations. That said, to answer your question, I think whichever product requires the most effort should be that highest tier, assuming animation

Jonathan Bravo

Cool I’m here for the comics more than the animation so you got me for that tier for sure 😊

Adler No

when will this new changes start?

TheofficialPIT

I do need to be more active and responsive with the community. It's part of the business side of making art. I could offer up weekly live streams to the highest tier. Maybe having a tutorial live stream with free access. Something to get new followers and members would be helpful.

TheofficialPIT

I'm hoping by the end of the week if I can get enough feedback on how to actually structure everything in a way that works for patrons and my self.

TheofficialPIT

I need to be more ambitious at this point if I want to survive as an artist. I've been a bit aimless and unsure about what to do and how to do it. The mountain of work in front of me and the all the projects I've started and left unfinished weigh heavily on me. I'm going to try and fix all that next year and maintain a solid, healthy, and positive groove.

Arjuna Pandava

This is just my two cents, and maybe this is already in your head, but maybe a way to focus/help patrons anticipate would be to sorta release a monthly schedule of what kind of pinups/comics/animations you'd be working on that month. That gives patrons something specifc to look forward to in advance and keeps you on a schedule.

SirMarwin

I wouldn’t mind the 20 tier, just make sure to be active every so often. I love your work so don’t stress too much if you can’t always make it. But saying hi and giving us small updates helps 👍

Arjuna Pandava

To add a thought, I wonder if $20 is too high for the animation tier (not to say your work isn't valuable, but times are tough right now is all). I'd add something extra to it, like possibly live streams of you doing your art and some WIP type stuff? Or teasers of things to come. Just a thought.

TheofficialPIT

I'm willing to share more of the process to attract people to the different tiers. If it means sharing sketches or doing lives streams while I work on the next post I'm all for it. It doesn't add more work necessarily, just offers transparency and insight. Good ideas.

TheofficialPIT

I'll be better about responding and keeping updated moving forward.

atlassa

Definitely would go for the $20 a month option based on what you're promising. I think it's fair value for that amount of content and the work it takes to deliver. Glad to see you back!

Arjuna Pandava

Whatever helps! I personally couldn't go more than 5, maybe 10 a month, but whatever appeals to other people.

atlassa

Also, I think it was said already, but I'd also be interested in your sketches, WIPs, and occasional streams if you're comfortable! The Picarto streams were enjoyable

MagneticEntanglement

That would be fantastic boss, and make me super excited for those days. That be so much fun 😁

CumberedMoonSong

I think you should add a rest week for every month if you’re updating 3 times a week every week, having it be 3 weeks of content and 1 week of you taking a break so you aren’t overloaded

TheofficialPIT

I may be able to do this in the background. I can schedule posts for release dates. It's feasible to get it all done in three weeks and give my self a week to relax and take care of IRL stuff.

Waxensafe278

The tier prices are good but I think you should do the aniamtions for $15 and make $20 tier for people who really want to support and ypu could do a raffle of full body sketch or hard lines. And you can wither have it as limited slots or make it ao where everyone can join also ypu should make a commsiom tier where it a fair lrice but only have limited slots like 3-6 slots

idntwanna

No problem with the upcharge. You produce wonderful artwork so at the end of the day I would deem the $20/month for 16 pieces of art, to be worth it. But the primary issue is the lack of consistency. I'm sure others can understand my concerns. For instance: • The last update we got on "Deep in the Red" was in August. • The last update we got for the Brady Brunch was May. 《It's December.》 • The last update on Elvira's Ball was at least 2 years ago. • And the last update on the "Hypno" series was 3 years ago. (I don't include the animation you forgot about) Not to mention we MIGHT get honorable mentions of damballah island, amunet, and Dune over the years. Furthermore, with almost all of these productions, you've made a statement that you would be more consistent. We understand you have been going through things. Life happens. But having 3 different tiers for 3 different pieces of artwork 4 times a month is completely contrary to what the evidence shows thus far. Your work isn't something to be trifled with. It's absolutely phenomenal. Even with AI coming out a outlining your work, your patrons know what's yours and what's fecal matter. I've been admiring your work since John Persons. And followed your work ever since. (Sure, I've been off and on with financial support. But I was tired of the inconsistencies.) If you expect your patrons money, monthly, then your patrons have a right to expect you to keep your word. What's going to happen if you don't keep your word? Can we expect refunds? Discounts? Postponement of payments? How can you assure your patrons that we won't be left high and dry? We love you. We love your work. But we're tired.

Omegalock

I’ll admit, it’s a big price jump compared to before. It is better than per post though. I’ve been here for a long time and love your work, and I’ve never given you a hard time when you go on hiatus. But you really need to be consistent with your schedule to justify this, at the very least let us know if you aren’t going to make it a certain week or need to take time off. $5 - 10 for pinups and comics is a lot but within the range of most people I see. $20 for animations is a lot though. If it’s just animations $15 sounds better, and if you are really set in having a $20 tier then it needs more to justify it. In the end, do what’s best for you and what you need to do. I wouldn’t mind cheaper but you have to value your work & time too. Mainly, I just really hope you can stick with this schedule.

wing hero

im happy for you but i cant say that i can get to excited. i know you have to change things but you havent been the best at commitments. you stat off. then nothing. theirs a list of unfinished works to back that up. last one i think was that scooby doo thing. sorry pit i really am sorry but ill have to see if youll do this. if you can stick with it ill join then. best of luck

wing hero

ya man i feel ya. it would have been better if he just up't the price to 5 then go from there. when writing this im going dam i dont have faith in him but his not giving me much choice

TheofficialPIT

I'm going to do a picarto stream later tonight and talk to everyone on mic to figure out the actual numbers but if you're too tired maybe just take a nap.

wing hero

ya i think ill take that nap.

Pokkuti

As fellow content creator, I suggest adding $1 for tip jar and $3 for low-res version(or any content you're willing to publish for that price tier).

deddmann

tiers seem fair. just keep an eye on your wellness as the proposed output is a bit more than we're used to. it may need to be tweaked as you transition to this pay model

Yolan

glad to see u back pit i’ll be joining the $20 tier

PARDLOW

Fair enough, when can we expect the update?

Jens Grini

Cant say im exited about the price jump tbh... especially with how there has barely been monthly posts for the last while

blucherri 369

Definitely going for that animation tier

Trevor Clarke

I think the plan yo've outlined has the potential to work, but ultimately it will depend on your ability to commit to delivering quality on a extremely consistent basis. There is considerable risk involved here too, man-- even the lowest tier is a premium level price, and people are only going to keep their membership if you're able to deliver that art. The first time you miss a deadline or deliver a sketch in place of a finished piece, people who are paying prices this high are going to cancel their memberships, and once that bridge is burned, you gotta work twice as hard to build it up again. Love your work, brother-- been a long-time fan and supporter-- but this is a complicated road to walk. At the very least, you should test run your schedule with the current payment plan to demonstrate that you can provide that level of output.

Bananakin_I

Gonna be honest I don‘t think you can keep up with the pressure that comes with your plan. Throughout the last couple years you have almost always abandoned your projects or gone radio silent for months. And I don‘t think that this pressure is very good for your mental health too. Start slower and see if you can keep up. You can step up from there. I will definitely only go with the pinup tier, because I don‘t think you will handle it beyond 2 months max.

MageOfPancakes

I think my biggest concern is that if I did the $20 tier that would be my highest subscription out of all the ones I do. So here is my suggestion: For the $10 tier, at the end of each month give them a random animation that you did that month. That way they at least get a taste of what the higher tier offers. For the $20 tier, have a monthly vote for what you would focus on next out of a potential list.

Psynapple

Just take my $20

David Musselman

I understand the need. Been a fan of your art for many years and look forward to see what you come up with next, but $20 seems like a lot for a tier, even a top tier. That would make it the most expensive one I've seen. And then there is the consistency, I love your art but there are times where you have gone silent for a long time, not to mention the projects that haven't been updated in a while. I will likely going with one of the lower tiers before I consider $20, but I am looking forward to what you are going to come out with.

J dog

What about commissions? I'm still waiting to see Poison Ivy again. That design was 12/10

Legion13

Enjoyed the site, but it's time to go. Please cancel my membership and remove me from the site.

The Book Merchant of House Longshelf

Hey guy, You cook good food. And you have alot of prepped meals that all you got to do is put it on the stove and add seasoning. Just make sure you're cook and feed us people on a regularly basis, okay. You got this!!

Snake Plissken

Depends to me how much is produced per month