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The Beatles, When I’m Sixty-Four - Amy’s First Listen and Analysis (Patreon)

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Is this just a lite entertainment song with some dashes of mocking humor thrown in? I think it’s a lot more than that … even moving towards profound.

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Lynn Poole

Paul took piano lessons twice. When he was young because his father wanted him to take lessons. But he found that the teacher wanted him to learn scales. He gave that up pretty quickly. He tried again around the time he was composing "Eleanor Rigby" and when he played it for the teacher, the teacher dismissed it as unimportant and wanted him to concentrate on scales. That was the end of piano lessons. If you see videos of him playing the piano, you can see why he drove the teachers crazy. His finger placement is often not what is taught but it works for him.

Lynn Poole

Paul: vocal, backing vocal, piano, bass; John: Backing vocal, guitar; George: Backing vocal; Ringo: drum, tubular bells; Additional instruments: Two clarinets and bass clarinet.

Lynn Poole

I posted this on the first listen. Tim Kaine, Senator from VA and previous Governor said that on his 64th birthday, he asked his wife, "will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm 64". She said, "Let me sleep on it, I'll give you an answer in the morning".

Lynn Poole

From the box set book. Paul recalled, "The lyric paints a vision of a cozy dotage as seen through the eyes of a young man who clearly considers the age of 64 to be positively ancient. The names of the grandchildren, Vera, Chuck and Dave, firmly rooted the song in the north of England."

Ye_Humble_Scrivener

I wasn't expecting Spencer Tracy references, but I approve. And, yeah, I guess he was kind of lumpy. And rumpled. Paul does a little Scots brogue on the line "Grandchildren on your knee" -- maybe because he had just bought a farmhouse in Kintyre and was anticipating his bucolic life there. One correction: this song follows "Within You, Without You", not "Mr. Kite", so there really is kind of a whiplash effect. I suspect that bit of sequencing was a way of gently undercutting the self-seriousness of the Harrison song.

David Taylor

Great analysis Amy, I can see this is more in your wheelhouse. It really lifts my mood to see someone appreciate talent. I believe it is quite often overlooked just how talented the Beatles were. There just didn't seem to be a genre that they couldn't master. They'll revisit this brand of Paul's pastiche a couple more times before they call it quits, but I've always been particular towards this little ditty. Thanks Amy, Vlad.

George Brady

Amy, that was wonderful! It is smile inducing to see you so engaged, so charmed, by Paul McCartney and The Beatles. This is your most appreciative Sergeant Pepper review so far - you'll see when watching this back, you nearly giggled several times. If you were Liesel you would have clapped your hands while listening. And still you took this song apart, and reassembled it before our eyes, brilliantly. I have the feeling that if Vlad stays out til quarter to three, you won't lock the door (when you're 64)! Thank you!

Lee Kennison

Great background info Vlad. And great reaction Amy. One of my favorite Oom-pah (Umpapa?) songs, along with being one of my favorite takes on the music-hall style. Both Queen and the Beatles have their takes on this style, or Vaudeville as we tend to call it in the US. And Frank Sinatra style applies to some of Frank's more fun, less crooner, style songs. As you said, it has so many little moments that make it very special. I love the humorous, tongue-in-cheek take on this. The only thing it needed to have the full classic pre-war and during WW2 era movie feel, would be to have had Hoagy Carmichael playing the piano. This song still applies directly to me, at least for the remainder of this month (December 2024) and most of next month. But then I officially become "old" by all the defined standards, or at least in the US when I officially become eligible for Medicare. So I'm glad you found it adorable, which is probably a term that is only suitable to young children and old people, but probably not those in between, at least not in non-sarcastic terms. Kind of like how many of you in the South like to say, "bless your heart," as a subtle put down.😉 BTW Amy, I remember when you first shared your thoughts on the clarinet early in the channel. I think you may have grown more accepting of it since then, back then I think you were a little more on the not liking it side. Maybe now that you have heard all the crazy different sounds rock instruments can make, certain clarinet choices may now make more sense, relatively speaking.😉 BTW2, my nickname as a young kid was "Spencer", from your Spencer Tracy reference. That is because my first name is actually Tracy, but I have tended to go with my middle name Lee for many years. Although my family still knows me as Tracy, but I think most of them forgot about or were never aware of the Spencer link. Spencer was actually coined by my dad's best friend.

Lee Kennison
>>158951161

Yeah, I loved the Spencer Tracy reference. One of my favorite actors, out the of the many great actors of this time. I related in my comment how "Spencer" was actual my nickname as a kid, since my first name is actually Tracy, with Lee being my middle name that I now go by.

Lynn Poole

I often wonder what the piano teacher who panned Elinor Rigby thought when/if he heard it as a finished product.

Paul D. Hoffmaster III

A fun song, simple and clean, with a very old feel. Good review again as always Amy. Also this song also has a low feeling for me now. I was hoping over the years to sing this song to my late wife Lorraine.

Rea Lavi

What makes this such a lovely song is that even the "tongue-in-cheek-ness" is done earnestly, never in a mocking way.

Rea Lavi

I never noticed how chromatic the vocal melody is. Indeed, as Amy pointed out, it adds interest and personality to the song.

Rea Lavi

I wish Amy commented more about Paul's voice. He's been displaying an incredible variety of vocal tones and styles since Revolver. Here also he puts in a unique performance.

Rea Lavi

The telephone call song Amy referred to may have been "All I've got to do". The word "phone" is mentioned in there. "Call you on the phone, and you'll be coming home"

Julian Ortiz

Word can’t express how much I love this song. Thanks for a great analysis of this sweet song, Amy. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to it again without thinking of Spencer Tracy. I 100% what you meant there and it totally fits. 😁

Michael T.B

This is one of the songs John Lennon would refer to as one of McCartney and his backup band songs

Lynn Poole
>>159056616

John played guitar and sang backing vocals which was his main job on songs when he was not lead vocalist. By chouce, George was not around for a significant amount of time they were recording this album. He did backing vocals that were probably overdubbed later. Ringo played drums and bells. Looks like it was a pretty normal line-up.

Jazz C.

Its funny amy pointing out the sarcasm on the specific line John is singing lmao. Even in background vocals he can be witty. Supposedly John helped write the Vera Chuck and Dave line tho he later said he he had nothing to do with the song cause he didn’t like it (he likes to lie and/or he just forgot) It is funny in a sad way to think that a year (not even a full year actually) after the album and two years after he wrote this song he does indeed get married (not to the woman he was dating at this point but-) to his wife who he’d be married to for almost 30 years till she passed away from cancer. Didn’t make it to 64 unfortunately :(

Kees Balke
>>158951161

I’m not a native English speaker (I’m Dutch), so please correct me if I’m wrong. I’ve always believed Paul McCartney rolls the “R” in “GRRRandchildren on youRRRRR knee” to give When I’m Sixty-Four a distinct 1920s or 1930s vaudeville flair.

Lynn Poole
>>159070496

I have never heard Paul then or now criticize the song of another artist. Even if he may think poorly of a song or artist, he keeps that to himself. I think he knows how comments, especially from someone you admire, can be hurtful and shake one's confidence.

Lynn Poole
>>159070496

I know you didn't. I was making the contrast between John's frequent criticism of Paul and how that may have made him feel. And to note that Paul does not criticize other musicians.

Rea Lavi

I wonder if Martin came up with any of the counter melodies

TangoEliott

this is an all time favorite of mine. I became an aunt at 9, 11, 15, and in 1967, aged 15, I taught my 2 older nieces the words to this song. This and Your Mother Should Know was requested by them every time. It became so much fun. We would point every time the bell went off. So much laughter and joy. So I associate this song with my youth, my aunt-hood, and my life long love of this group. I learned that "too dear" meant not too expensive. I love this. I love them. I am so happy right now.

Allan Middleton

"who at 64 is going to be out at a quarter to three?" .... on a regular basis ..ME! that's who! IJBOL

Eric Williams
>>158999767

Some of Paul and John's vocals for this album were recorded slower then sped up to make them sound younger.

Nick Lenz

Very nice, Amy. The drums add a very subtle part to make the song complete.

Jeremy Finch

I probably first heard this in the Yellow Submarine film, because I grew up hearing the Beatles. In fact, this song is a reason I bought my first non-compilation Beatles album (on CD). I remembered the song and wanted a copy of it. The significance of the album wasn’t really a motivation. Lol I don’t think she knew this recording was sped up slightly to give Paul a more youthful voice. She’ll probably like Honey Pie, too.

Jeremy Finch
>>158951161

I sooner thought of Charlie Chaplin with his funny walk and twirling cane than Spencer Tracy.

Pedro Macedo

This song is one of my most beloved from Paul (and from them). It's so joyful and humorous. The melody and the orchestral arrangement are both wonderful. The song is simple but very memorable. By saying this, I reflect to myself one more time: how many songs would he (and they) memorize and store in their memories for so many years? How is that possible without any recording or writing assistance?

Lynn Poole
>>160965519

Paul mastered counter melodies early in his songwriting career. He talks about that in the Rick Rubin McCartney 3,2,1 series. Also the melody going up or down with the bass going in the opposite direction. This was on the piano. He even said he didn't know how he came up with that other than he liked the way it sounded.

Charlie Hayden

I wish more audio would surface of George Martin working with the session musicians - the recent Revolver Super Deluxe release contained a track of George conducting the string ensemble for Eleanor Rigby and it's a pretty fascinating listen. I feel like this story has perpetuated of stuffy old men coming in to play George's arrangements and "not getting it" (probably true for A Day in the Life lol), but in that track we hear them laughing with George, discussing the arrangement and even offering opinions and ideas. Now when I hear a song like this one, with lots of great little musical moments from the session musicians, I have to wonder how much of it was made up on the spot by them, as opposed to being planned/written.

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

In the song, Paul said he would fix the fuse. A battery is a big fuse. Give him a call!!

Lynn Poole
>>161410811

I listened to most of the White Album today on a long car trip. I heard things in "Honey Pie" musically that I'd not noticed before. Will be curious to see what Amy hears.

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

I spend a lot of time in my car for my job. The Beatles are my companions as I sing while I drive. Today I was listening to the White album. I'm a Wings fan too.

gwool

so much fun and enjoyment thanks Amy and Vlad

brovold72 .

John's backing vocals on this song (and album) are so haunting and beautiful. He would have never received that as a compliment, perhaps, but it is so.

brovold72 .
>>161410185

I never appreciated this song as an adolescent until one afternoon I was riding in the back of a car with my ear just next to the right speaker when I first noticed the drum part. That sealed the deal for me--I finally "got" it.

Pedro Macedo

It's funny to notice that the Bells played here remember me, the Maxwell Silver Hammer one.

brovold72 .
>>158951161

To me that denotes a distinctly rustic English or Scottish environment: "Old-Timey" from the narrator's perspective. So Vaudevillian, yes, or at least conspicuously theatrical.

Daniel Adano

To me isn't Spencer Tracy ..is Fred Astaire !!1 Lol..Charming

Clay Beat-E-O

Bravo! I've been listening to this song for 58 years and I never made the connection of a marriage license at the end ("fill in a form"). Thank you Amy! My life is now complete. I think these lyrics relate to Paul's parents, who knew each other as family friends for years before they tied the knot, well into their late 30's and early 40's. It's never too late, as they say, for love to blossom and grow and it produced one of the greatest song writers of the 20th century, a gift that we all benefit from every day! Thanks again, great review.

J J
>>161426725

I, too, love hearing the interviews from the harpist, French horn guy, etc. top-notch musicians talking about their contributions to Beatles songs. I think many of them probably loved it as a break from the traditional settings and music they normally played.

J J
>>159056616

I, for one, am very glad that Paul just kept churning out songs and didn't stop because the other lads gave him static about his overbearing manner of making the songs "perfect" in his mind.

J J
>>158999767

I'm glad you mentioned that because it makes sense about how he could just change the timbre of voice so much without some help.

J J
>>158951161

I caught that "Scots brogue" as well...although I have to admit I would not have described it so well.

Timothy Jones

This song, and so much of Sgt. Pepper, is like a different world, and leaves the "She Loves You" era so far behind that you'd never have anticipated this could be a Beatles song. This is part of what made the Beatles so unique at the time. They were always changing, experimenting, and evolving... and they succeeded brilliantly in bringing their audience along with them. They really did change music.

Mike Clancey

You had a lot of fun with that one! Who would have thought such a cute, playful little song had so much going on. Thanks for the insight.

Rebecca Walsh

At this point in their careers John, Paul, George, and Ringo were looking inward for meaning and perspective to the interpretation for their success and private lives. They were taking chances musically, professionally, and personally as this would continue until their inevitable end of the group. At first, they were creating hits for the charts and to sell records, but by the time 'Rubber Soul', 'Revolver' and 'Sgt. Pepper's Band' they were creating much more than 'pop hits'. As they experimented more, they grew apart as a result...each member experiencing different point of views and wanting to further explore this in writing/composing songs. The problem became that they could only get a number of songs on each record and George felt left out. He said by the time this album ended he had nearly 100 songs or ideas and he simply felt like their was no way he could get these songs on the albums with his 2-3 tracks per LP. Ringo felt like a session drummer, especially on this record and has expressed frustrations over having to fill a lot of time in the studio while John and Paul would do their thing. Ringo wanted to just rock like they used to when they first begun. Paul wanted to explore the studio and bring in session musicians like what Brian Wilson was doing at the time. John Lennon with his witty humor at this time began to fall out of interest with the way the direction the group was taking. John wanted a more rock out, expressionistic and less formulated type of music that would explore the art rather than competing with rival rock music groups. You begin to see how creative differences were really becoming a challenge and after Brian Epstein's death, the music really began to saturate in that trend. Their are very few music groups with the talent and creative ability that the Beatles had and the fact that these four musicians stuck together as long as they did should be a biography in itself and perhaps it is.

Jeremy Finch
>>161410811

His “granny songs” are a guilty pleasure. TBH, the other Beatles CD I bought that day was Abbey Road, purely because “Maxwell” was on there and I remembered that song, too. Most people hate it, but I don’t mind it. It’s hardly the best song on the album, but it’s a fun tune, nevertheless. Another one is “I’ve Just Seen Face.” I completely forgot about it until I first listened to Help! and the memories of first hearing it flooded back. Love Paul’s songs the most of the four.

Jeremy Finch

Maybe Paul should’ve released a new version about twenty years ago, “Now I’m 64”!😂😂😂

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

Yesterday on a car trip I listened to Ram. I played "Ram On" more than a few times. There is so much going on in that song. There is a section where he duplicates a brass sound with his voice. His whistling in the outro is incredible. I've listened to that album more times that I can count but heard things I'd not appreciated before. I know his voice range has been assessed as several octaves but I think his whistling range surpasses that.

TangoEliott
>>161397991

Paul was always good with sounds. I loved his whistling. I am sad, however, that he overused his voice and I am very concerned about how he still abuses it. I wish he'd be quiet for 2 years. On another note, Chaos and Creation is a fab album. I love it. Overall he made so much music and there are so many songs to be heard. I'd love to hear Calico Skies.

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

Have you seen the video "Chaos and Creation at Abbey Road"? He demonstrates some of the song techniques and sings and plays "Jenny Wren" which is a lovely song. You can find it on Youtube. I watched it earlier this week. As to his voice, an aging voice is a given. I'm of the mind that his voice, whether he was a professional singer or not, is as good as it can be at 82. I've watched a couple of videos of those who attended his last tour and they said his voice is better than it has been in the last few years. Also it is rumored that he's been working with a vocal coach. Rumored is the operative word. But he's doing what he loves.

TangoEliott
>>161397991

I know. Everyone tells me that. But I am so protective of his legacy and having these recordings out there fills me with anxiety when my generation is not longer there to say "listen to the original."

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

I watched it years ago too but rewatch it every now and then. You probably can tell I am a Beatles fan through and through but of the four, Paul is the one that is most interesting to me. I'm reading Volume 2 of "The McCartney Legacy" spanning 1974-1980. Authors are Allan Kozzin and Adrian Sinclair. Volume 1 was published in late 2022. It is by far the best post Beatles biography of him or any of them for that matter. They are working on Volume 3. Their research is meticulous and they do not include hearsay. Vol 2 is 718 pages long. They are fans but they are not biased. He's a complicated guy.

TangoEliott
>>161397991

Paul got a bum rap early on that he tried to shake but often he handled it in ways lots of people did not like. But I have loved the Beatles, as you do, since forever. And although it is true I love all 4, Paul has a special place in my heart. I saw the Beatles live at Shea. I saw Wings in Maryland, I saw Paul about 3 other times from 1990 thru the 2000's. I never went to see any others. I used to think how people did not realize that it was Paul who was the Avant Garde one. He was living in London while the others, married, were living in suburbia were not. He shared with them. John was in his bathrobe while Paul was seeing new artists of both music and art. In fact, I have heard Paul say he met Yoko first and told her to talk to John. So there is that. Anyway, I have read so many books, bought so many videos back in the day and drowned myself in videos. I used to think John was the Mind, Paul was the Heart, George was the Spirit, and Ringo was the Personality. Add them together and you get one complete entity. There is nothing anyone could ever say to make me not love them or not find their music still the best. The only thing that I love as deeply but not for as long, is ABBA, whose music surprised me with its depth and magical voices. At work and at home my office was decorated in Beatles. People would come tell me they heard the Beatles on the radio and thought of me. People bought me Beatle's gifts! My license plate honors them. So I understand how you feel. Sorry for my rant. I am not even re-reading it.

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

Not a rant. A heartfelt reply. I agree that he did and still does get a bad rap for no good reason. I never got to see Wings or Paul in concert. I envy you having such a rich experience.

TangoEliott
>>161397991

Wings was probably the most awesome concert because by then Paul was doing so much more and out on stage a long time. When I saw the Beatles other acts filled the time but the Beatles were out like 27 minutes. The last Paul concert I saw was about 3 hours. I saw him when Chaos album came out so he sang several songs. I am hoping Amy gets to do less famous songs like Calico Skies and from Chaos Jenny Wren, Too Much Rain, Friends to Go, English Tea and others. I hope she gets to do all of them. They all deserve it. Such a pleasure to talk with you.

Lynn Poole
>>160965519

If you want to hear some marvelous Paul counterpoint post Beatles, take a listen to "Dear Boy" on "Ram".

DJ Marquis Marc Rambeau du Tacoma

I first got this album at age 14, although some of the songs were also on their greatest hits album that I owned sometime prior. At age 14, I was thinking that 50 years is a HELL OF A LONG TIME AWAY... And now, at close to age sixty-freaking-three... I don't want to think about it anymore... especially since both my mom and dad died at 64. GULP!

Lynn Poole
>>161397991

I'm into "Sally G" right now. Love the country, Nashville sound. Don't know why he didn't include that on Venus and Mars. In "The McCartney Legacy" we're in Nashville right now. He's forming Wings 2.0.