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Fortnight Music Video Reaction & TTPD Initial Thoughts (Patreon)

Published:
2024-04-20 04:50:06
Edited:
2024-09-10 00:33:36
Imported:
2026-06

Content

Hey divas!!!! Nodaysoffologist back at it again with a Fortnight music video reaction, where we discuss this visual & Taylor's other self-directed works, then go on to do a bit of initial TTPD feedback. Enjoy xo

Comments

chappell roan

Honestly not a terrible music video self direct. So excited for the 2nd album reaction video!

Lauren Bingham

i am diva down. i went to school tired and falling asleep.

Rachel Bullock

Omg STEMologist in the stream with the coding

Summer Nicole

I feel like this is the first record of hers that you can't implant yourself into the story or make the song your own in some way. It's a different take that I appreciate, but I also hope this doesn't become the new standard if that makes sense. It's a tea party though.... Like filled an ocean with it.

Rachel Bullock

This being said, I had to close the stream earlier and I missed the reaction to the video, so thanks for uploading to the Patreon 🫡

Blueasice24

I like the aesthetics of the video for sure. The song itself is growing slowly on me

Jesse Martin

But Daddy I Love Him is ABSOLUTELY a career highlight, and you SHOULD say it! Thank you sm

iLaney90

I found it really interesting that you said that it's potentially alienating for those who aren't familiar with lore. I actually had the opposite experience. My sister-in-law called me at 8am to get me to tell her about the lore because she was so fascinated by the album. My brother, who made fun of me for liking Taylor growing up, decided to listen to it of his own volition after my sister in law told him about what she and I talked about. I'm absolutely floored by the people who are texting me and dm-ing me about this album because I'm their designated Taylor stan. I totally agree that Down Bad makes a better radio single. I hope that's what she chooses next.

Leslie M

I think it's the lead single because she wanted to make the video

Anderson

Whyyy does she insist on directing the music videos. She has all the resources in the world and the visuals are always so lame :/

Ducklina

So true about this being an alienating album if you’re not familiar with the lore. It’s a lot of content and history to parse through if you’re jumping in now and tbh makes me fear we’ve arrived at the marvel-ification of the TSMU (t swift musical universe)

Jason

I was just coming here to say this! All of her other albums, regardless of who we most likely knew the songs were about, were not like the songs on this album. I normally connect because I don't care about whatever or whoever she wrote about in her personal life. I just enjoy the experience of her songwriting and then can normally just relate it to my own life. Her past year was so public, it makes it hard to enjoy in the usual way that I expected. Even the Joe songs on Lover left enough to the imagination that I could still relate to them on my own terms. TTPD is the opposite. It's like we know who every song is about and that pulls me out of the experience. I know in a week I'll be completely fine and love it as I normally do, so I'm not that worried, Also, I need to know why Zach thinks "The Alchemy" is not about Travis. The timeline for production of the vinyls, etc. is a sign that the song was written way before the Super Bowl, but why do the lyrics make so much sense in the story of Tayvis, or whatever people call it? I'm looking forward to the pod so I can hear other points of view because I can't handle these delusional people who are not behind the paywall.

Kelsey

ill disagree with you on the alchemist. there are other things in that song that make it pretty clear that it’s travis to me. i do totally think most of the matty/joe songs are more likely a mix of the two relationships than definitively about one or the other. its like she’s merged the two relationships into one and its so interesting.

T

I think they were communicating through email that's why the hands shape touch when they're writing across from eachother

Ally ❤️

People are sooooooo annoying. It’s about TAYLOR!!! That’s the interesting shit!

Chelsea Smith (edited)

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2026-09-17 05:00 I really love fortnight 🫠🤣
2024-04-20 06:00

Ally ❤️

I agree - a LOT of composite sketches between Ratty & YB

Stav

10000000% agree

Ana GdeS

You’re making all my dreams come true🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Lisaboo

Me too 🙈🙈

Yasmin

You know what's really interesting, I had a friend say to me today that she tried to listen to the first two songs then had to bail because she was bored. I keep thinking that Taylor's popularity is unstoppable (and it still is) but I feel like this album is a little devisive in its sounds and INITIAL relatability. She has always been on the mark for sound and being able to capture people's hearts instantly. This album is a thinker so I wonder how well it will be received by the average Joe

Yasmin

Hahaha yeah this made me crack up as well

AmyJN

I really like the song but I struggled to watch the video due to associated medical trauma 🙃

Bethan Collins

Mainly because he’s the only man in her life that is getting a trophy and or winning in a league Hahahahah. I also see him being the only one making her feel like a hero, plus their relationship makes no sense so the alchemy reference of just following the chemistry and the transformation that they become together

Eeeee

I agree it’s the best self directed video at least it doesn’t has a monologue,I also agree it’s not the best song on the album but I can’t think of better first single. I LOVE down bad but I don’t think it represents the album well. I still feel overwhelmed by the two albums but I enjoyed it along with your reactions and thoughts. Can’t wait for part 2.

lily

I think a lot of references to the 1975 were missed by everyone here

Sydney Shepard

Agreed! What is more telling to me is the line where she sings about handing the trophy to the team and he comes running over to her! But honestly I think it's more about how she falls so hard in love everytime!

Michael Keller

I watched this a bit ago and he pointed out quite a few little things I TOTALLY missed so I think it'd be great for you guys to check out too. Edit: it's a professional music video editor (channel is Jordan Orme) reacting to the music video. https://youtu.be/oiaGNHpzXog?si=aqfpRsDGgs1nG-VR

Michael Keller

Oh, I'm curious what you think about her having curly hair during the electroshock scene? It was blatantly a callback to younger Taylor cause the rest of the video she looks how she does now but in that one scene she looks a lot more baby tay. I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Luke Alexander

I loved this music video, giving creepy gothic dark academia and I can’t wait for more music videos. Although she chose one of the weaker songs for a lead single I fear…

Luke Alexander

If I had to compare it other albums it’s gotta be folklevermore but even then it’s so unique. Truley feels old the start of a new era of eras and new taylor but with the growth built from the previous eras

Nathalie Padmore

Yes! I agree with the "people are being so insistent" and composite sketches! Love your voice of reason and also humour "oh for fucks sake so I'm going to have to use my brain" 😂

maryna

to me it looks like she went from being a bride in the first room to being a widow in the next room and that just seems so basic/easy to me... the being experimented on by a man scene too is a bit basic for me. i did like the intimate shots of her and post being contrasted with his cruelty. the unstable nature of their intimacy theoughout the video was interesting and devastating to watch.

Emma Haverdings

I heard her on the radio explaining that Fortnight is about how sometimes a(n unhealthy) relationship begins with lovebombing. The narrator (taylor) was fed the illusion that she was the centre of this man’s world and held onto it for way too long, even though in reality that ‘love’ only lasted a fortnight. ‘I loved you for only a fortnight’ and now ‘I love you it’s ruining my love’ because he doesn’t love her back anymore like in the beginning. That’s why the beginning line js ‘I was supposed to be sent away but they forgot to come and get me’. She realizes it wasn’t supposed to last when the lovebombing ended, but ‘they’ forgot to to come and get her. This seems similar to the line in ‘hits different’: ‘was that your key in the door or have they come to take me away?’. She’s waking up in a mental hospital because she’s ‘handcuffed to this spell’ she was under, even if it means she has to take antidepressants. Then she and her lover are both tortured poets trying to find each other through words, but there is quite some distance between them and it feels very impersonal. I think it’s also interesting how the responsibility of her leaving the situation seems to be delegated to an anonymous outside party. On her instagram she mentions how most wounds in this story were self-inflicted in hindsight, not leaving before it broke her completely probably being the biggest one. Her being electroshocked also really reminds me of eternal sunshine and Ari’s video. Here, Taylor is also holding on to the memory of her and her lover being happy poets together, being able to hug and be close. Then we flash over to her strapped to the vertical gurney, insinuating that it was a memory, being electroshocked because she is crazy and holding on to an illusion. Notice that the papers they layed on in the memory were shaped like taylor’s profile, so it was literally happening in her head. However, her tortured poet is there in the room and when he reads that she still loves him even though it’s ruining her life, he saves her. This push and pull dynamic is referenced more often in taylor’s songs in lyrics like ‘you said you’d die if I ever left’ but at the same time he ‘left her at home at the heath’. And she ‘pulled him in closer everytime he drifted away’. Also, kitty is walking through the electroshock scene as a reference to the black dog!! What do you think?

maryna

as a single choice i agree it doesn't make much sense, but the last minute (when they both sing on top of each other) is just hauntingly beautiful and may draw people in - by that time the imagery too has gotten less dramatic (for lack of a better word) (and for lack of english :-P )

Teresa

Please explain what they are?

mindyrose

I would like to see a video of Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? (Where Taylor is a literallt phantom flying around screaming at people). Or I Can Do It With A Broken Heart (where Taylor turns into a cartoon character during the chorus—that is the only way I can imagine this song)

Laine Wagner

you’ve been discussing a visual element to the album…interesting the music video is the first song 👀

Zach Rutnik

It is hit or miss when it comes to visuals for Taylors music videos. This was a hit for me!

CamilleC

I like that she did a video without all the easter eggs propaganda for 10 years old

Zainab

She really said: I'm going to throw you off the scent, and you're going to have no idea what song is about who. And I'm clapping and I'm cheering.

Christine

And use Posty as a visual of Ratty

Amanda

The reference to “Move to Florida” is the clue that it’s someone calling her back home (Druggy)—from her mental state in London with/Turkey-Jerk Joe! I think she (mentally) relied on him as motivation to come back, and then she does, and he screwed her over with some bad/dangerous decision(s). The songs near the end about other people are likely literary (grown up Peter Pan and grown up Wendy turns out the light), are still about her. Mental illness, isolation, and moving home (or coming back home in her mind) are such prominent themes. After my 8th time running through, I’m sitting here thinking it’s an absolute masterpiece. How brave and bold it is! Very very artsy and deep! It is a great opener…definitely the “thesis”!

Hunter Kelley

i feel like her and jack have reached their collaborative peak and she needs to invite other artists to help her. aaron i feel is really pushing her with her writing which i like

Mi ✨

The visuals, girl, amazing. I feel like something in this theme and Who’s Afraid Of Little Old Me would slap so much harder though. The asylum imagery, the creepy gothic vibes, deranged eyes… she really did waste the visuals on one of the least memorable songs of the record. Though having said that, the chorus is kind of stuck in my head now, so maybe it’s just a grower.

Madelyn

What do you think the lead single should’ve been?

Violet H

I watched it on my phone last night and when I saw it on the TV today I SCREAMED when I noticed that Ethan Hawke and Josh Charles have their Dead Poets Society character names on their doctor coats.

BrieAnna Older

I felt like the sound was a bit reminiscent of the 1975 or Bleachers

BrieAnna Older

I agree, I don't think The Alchemy is about Travis. I sort of was theorizing it might be about her relationship with the fans.

LadyQ

At this stage, maybe she WANTS to alienate a few fans! It's not like she needs them... Why not prune the garden a bit?

Jessica Maguire

You’re so right it’s not about Olivia (though many argue she may be the next in line).it’s a comment on the passing off of the torch, someone will come next. They will be endlessly compared to her and other ICONS. It’s about the way the industry treats women. And I’m sure other stuff but I haven’t broken down the lyrics entirely yet.

LadyQ

A couples references I noticed, handcuffed to her twin... In imgonnagetyouback she mentions handcuffs, in "down bad" she misses her twin. Are the tattoos twin tattoos of Post's?

LadyQ

He told Lucy he'd die if he ever left, it's been alleged that it's Lucy Dacus of Boygenius who has connections to both Taylor and Ratty

LadyQ

Didn't Clara Bow have electro shock therapy? She also had such social anxiety that she kept her husband from going out, much like the turkey

HaleyJean ASMR

you NEED to watch the 1975s part of the band video. the symbolic parallels are EXACT. the crown, the black dog, the peter pan of it all. in the thumbnail, Matty is wearing the same crown as Taylor (when she is getting electroshock therapy). https://youtu.be/87nG3LuabUs?si=cFnJfH6fla3YE-El

V

Florida!!! Is giving grand theft auto 6. And that is a good thing

HaleyJean ASMR

the matty / taylor lore runs deeper than we ever thought its so concerning but the art is impeccable i am sat 🍿

maryna

i think it was she herself who didn't leave the house for years? not 100% sure, though...

Emma Haverdings

The lyric is ‘But you told Lucy you'd kill yourself if I ever leave’. So that’s what I meant with the lyric of push and pull that I mentioned.

Kitty Wallace

Did you notice the white Grammy dress in the asylum scene?

Stav

I hate to say it, but I think TTPD has a lot of matty healy references in it. I do feel it's composite but I also can feel what relationship she describes that feels much more like a toxic matty healy, and what has been more resonant with what she's written in the past about joe. I think ratty really did a number on her and I definitely value the art of this record but I'm just not ok with the amount of torture-which she references on what feels like more than 7 songs- in that relationship. I'm having a hard time digesting it. Like there's a difference between the insecurity and the issues with Joe, which of course caused her so much pain; and the way she wrote about matty and the kind of torture of that relationship. Sure, maybe they're just two tortured poets; maybe he brought the most tortured out of her. But I'm convinced he was torturous in one way or another. I'm looking forward to hearing the pod analysis. But this video was I think one of her best self directed videos for sure; and her performance was incredible. I think this is my favorite music video performance of hers.

Taticakes

Hello, friends, romans, countrymen! I am here to die on the hill of "The Alchemy" being a ~Travis song (I think he's just one part of it, of course) so: I think the lines about coming back are an amalgamation of her "coming back to where she belongs" (AKA becoming an American Girl after spending nearly a decade as a Britophile) and soaking in the spotlight after hiding in the darkness out of fear of scandal and Joe's need for privacy. A comeback also extends the sports metaphor of winning against all odds - her making a comeback after her latest "disgrace" was as unfathomable to her as the Chiefs' winning streak was to... people who watch sports. Also "the hospital was a drag" speaks of her temporary insanity with Matty IMO, and "heroin but this time with an e" totally sounds like something she or Travis would say because of all the references in the album to Matty being more into drugs than her. "Your heart is still reserved for me" may be because no one has been able to claim his heart yet, so it's hers for the taking. As for "What if I told you we're cool / that child's play back in school is forgiven," I think that goes back to her relationship with fame and the USA since the ~scandal with Kim and Kanye is the reason she ran away to London in the first place. So, it's like she's found her place again and she's found (fingers crossed we hope????) a good man.

V

Totally! And the still reserved for me part could also be referring to Travis saying he had a crush on Taylor since he was like a teenager. He said she was his celeb crush and she references this on so high school with his kiss marry kill vid about her. So maybe she’s like oh he had a crush on me since before he met me when I was this all american girl celeb before Kanye drama and his heart is still reserved for me to this day. Which goes back to the rest of the song theme which is about coming home and being welcomed back. Cute with so high school referring to high school vibes when Travis probably actually had a crush on T since around that age

Taticakes

Oooh yes, your galaxy brain! Love that idea.

V

Haha you’re so nice love yours too!

Allie C

THANK YOU!! I will die on this hill that Alchemy is not about travis. The heroin line gave it away(which people keep skipping over??), like matty was trying to convince her he was clean. She has been using sports metaphors for years. I was shocked that we got more matty songs than joe but then I began to think...folklore,evermore and midnights were the break down/ending of joe. Also, they were obviously off and on at some point over their 6 year relationship. So this album(s) is more of the aftermath.

Nicky Lynch

Love your takes zack. Does anyone else have fortnight stuck in their head thought? The outro is an ear worm….

Rachel

Zack, I love you... But The Alchemy is very obviously about Travis. The football puns had me cringing all throughout the first listen.

Wooly Pronto

Fr, I’m sure she’s happy to prune the Speak Up Now weirdos

Alex Rose

Re The Alchemy: thank you! As I listened to it my thought was that it is about her coming back into public/the limelight/herself. When I saw everyone saying it was about Travis I was perplexed. Then I realized (after seeing reactions to other songs in the album) that folks need to read more good books…

maryna

i think the last 45 seconds are hauntingly beautiful. the beginning is a bit background music-y for my liking.

maryna

same. taylor's writing style is often not hard to decipher but it isn't this easy/direct.

maryna

i think us fans are obsessed about who the songs are about because this was a huge topic for all of us here on the patreon when discussing the apple music playlists just last week, so please go easy on us if we're interested in that. 🙂 also, it's hard to disentangle things. sometimes the what has happened is directly linked to the who did it. the line gets very blurry at times and, yes, i have to admit that it's also very entertaining 😳 i try to be respectful to taylor when discussing stuff, but sometimes i do get carried away...

Kerri S

Perhaps Clara Bow the woman is talking first person in Fortnight

Kerri S

More concise if from Clara Bow's POV, right?

Kerri S

fortnight is oddly catchy

Abby

Fortnight didn't make much of an impression on me at first BUT it's been stuck in my head all day since I watched the video. She got me with the narcotics :(

Kerri S

Love it. Mature

Kerri S

Love the song. I'm in the minority.

Kerri S

Movie was released in 1989

Joseph Michael

Dead Poets Society- Ethan Hawke, pretty clever. Watched that film in HS and it really resonated with me as a writer.

Rose

Love Taylor, but i’m surprised she made this video with all the hospital/ECT therapy references. It’s very stigmatising and I’m honestly surprised no one else has called her out for it.

Ann thea

If you see where she put the alchemy on her “stages of grief playlists” i think that is her moving on from her crazy toxic romance and finding something that she has been trying to create through her music “the alchemy”. Some people don’t get the direct football references to what happened this year on Trav’s team so i get the confusion. But it could be about her fans too. Definitely about moving on and acceptance (according to tay) so can’t be about her previous relationship turkey/rat. IMO

Kerri S

Great point. Ive had ECT. Clara must have had ECT.

Kerri S

Me too. Got stuck in my head.

Kerri S

Me as well. Ear worm.

Ann thea

An interesting take a fan had about Fortnight is that she ended her relationship with Joe and she took a “miracle move on drug” which was jumping into a new relationship. She thought it was going to change “the prophecy”however she was sold a bill of good by the rat. He ended up just selling her snake oil “the effects were temporary”, and it was worse then just going through the heartbreak of losing a relationship she thought was going to be her forever, even though it was a bad one. Also, the rat’s character was Post Malone doing tests on her (the smallest man that ever lived)

Aleesha Hunter

I’ve been wondering the same Rose 🖤

Emma Daisy

I think Fortnight was first on the album to set the theme of the album, it’s letting us know this album isn’t about what we might think it is. “I took a miracle move-on drug, the effects were temporary”, this album is the temporary insanity of her life _after_ a break up. She said she’d been writing this album for two years but I’m not sure about that, I think she was just trying to add to the number 2 Easter eggs. (My thoughts).

Emma Daisy

Clara was institutionalised, and people often refer to Taylor as insane or delusional including herself. Why would you call her out though? It’s art.

Emma Daisy

I don’t think so, most people love it!

Emma Daisy

Yes, but this time with an E. She’s a heroine to Travis. Matty preferred his heroin. I think it might be about Travis.

Rose

I expected people to think this way. I disagree. While society has come a long way in terms of general mental health awareness, there is still terrible stigma around inpatient mental health treatment and electroshock therapy, which can be very effective and is still used. Things like this perpetuate the idea that everyone who visits a mental health hospital is crazy or a criminal. I don’t expect you to understand, but please take my word for it when I say that it’s insulting to people with severe and persistent mental illness.

Emma Daisy

I won’t take your word because I do know what it’s like. I’ve suffered from it all my life. 50 years is a long time with a mental health disorder. I’ve never had ECT but many people I know have, I’ve spent many months in mental hospitals over the years and received TMSr. I don’t think what Taylor is doing here is insulting, she’s depicting how she feels other people see her. It’s a trope that doesn’t affect my life in any way. You’re choosing to be insulted by it.

Lori Terry

I love So High School… not because it is about Travis but because I know exactly what she is saying. I feel that way about my husband even after 12 years…

Burtasaurusrex11

I guess that Schiaperelli down at the Grammys makes more sense now. Had she done this look from the video though? Even a more subtle version, gag.

Becca C

Let’s talk about the way people are being deranged 😆

Lior

it’s been out for 72 hours and my opinions have already changed SOOO much

Sally Ho

Hi Zach, I’m not sure where else to post this, but could you share the discord link? Thank you!

Kay Wolfy

What can we interpret an "Endless February" is? Could it be the waiting for one relationship ending in February and then not announcing it until April?

Miranda Garcia

My interpretation of it is it could be referring to Joes birthday being in February and it being the dead of Winter. Also it’s the beginning of Pisces season and an (unhealthy) expression of Pisces energy is escapism and not wanting to face problems head on and being moody. That’s how I interpreted it but I think that it definitely could also be alluding to when they broke up and having to wait to announce it.

Bronwyn Dunn

I love the song and the video, even though it doesn’t make much sense, other than “I love you and it’s ruining my life.”

Jenna Wells

There are so many parallels with Matty Healy’s videos… down to how she washed her face…