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Erastourology (Tortured Poets Version) (Patreon)

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2024-05-13 10:00:09
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Welcome back to TAYLOR TALK, our monthly segment discussing the latest and greatest news in la nacion de taylor. On the docket today: but of course, the revamp of The Eras Tour. Including all of the glaring omissions (RIP Long Live) and an appreciation of the gorgina TTPD set which has truly gagged us into another dimension. Elsewhere: Taylor Swift's insane first-week chart numbers, the disappearance and sudden reappearance of her catalogue on TikTok, how critics need to understand swifties in order to appraise Tortured Poets correctly, and the surprising restraint of merch this time around. Enjoy!

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Raphaëlle

The serotonine boost that the intro music gives me is insaneeee

Susannah Wallace

I feel like she rearranged a little based on the fact that a lot of the shows she’s gonna do are going to be in daylight for 60% of the show. I wish she put reputation a little later though and 1989 earlier cos I wanna see reputation in the dark.

ryan

Thank you so much snakes we needed this so badly. And Zach you’re looking so good lately bestie 💕

Raphaëlle

I attended the show for the first time in Paris and truly my only 2 gripes with it are as follows: 1/ I can’t believe she cut long live, especially when enchanted is indeed performed in its abridged version. Just like you guys, I don’t get the rationale considering i) how much it means to us and ii) she kept the midnights set intact, which kinda drags during midnight rain & vigilante shit as you’ve highlighted. Also to go through all this effort to put on this enormous gown for half a song? C’mon m’mam, be serious for a second. 2/ Cutting TTDS is a CRIME. It’s not only because it’s one of my favorite songs. It’s also because it wasn’t filmed in LA for the movie because she momentarily switched it with no body no crime m. So we have no good recording of TTDS to fall back on 😭

Finley

right as i sat down to eat 😭 this is perfect

violetta

I have the theory that whatever movie she’s making is around the “teenage love triangle “ of it all. That’s why the three songs are still on set even when cardigan is a snooze. And that’s why she reference to it so much

Sonya

i think though she didn't get to tour folklore, evermore, lover so that makes sense she wanted to perform it in front of her fans? I don't know, that's my thoughts. that being said, evermore is my favourite album of hers. I don't love cardigan as well.

maryna

i will miss tolerate it and it's one of my all-time faves. trying not to cry takes up all my energy, i think i will have to call in sick for work for a while. 😥😥😥😭

Elísabet Ásta Magnúsdóttir

I say we just follow Taylor from Paris N4 and rewrite history where the Alchemy is about Travis now 🤷🏻‍♀️😁

Raphaëlle

I absolutely love the revamped 1989 2 piece set. I hope she hasn’t given up on the mismatched boots 😭 I loved this little quirk

Ria

Im really upset about Long Live like ive been waiting 13 years to sing it live...

Ria

like im sorryyyyy I just dont get why she decided to cut long live. Like after the outcry the fans had when it wasn't there at the beginning of the tour to what a MOMENT it became when she did add it... just insane not to keep when she's always lowkey being accused of paying her international fans dust

BenG1994

So true on Fantano, he cannot talk about Billie without waxing lyrical about Finneas. He is just unable to give unqualified praise to women without mentioning the men

Rachel O

“well they have one, it’s travis” i’m dead omfgggg so real

Starbuck1234!

The omission of long live is truly perplexing. But we have to keep in mind that it didn’t make the original setlist and she added it with Speak Now Taylor’s Version release. My guess is that she has planned the song closers to each leg well in advance, probably from the beginning of the planning stages of the tour; she knew how she wanted to close each leg. Like New Years Day I’m sure she had planned from day 1. My guess is that she will end the European leg or the final Eras show with Long Live. Also makes me wonder why she is holding back certain songs like TWILY makes me think she has something planned already for it. Closing the European leg and the entire tour has to be big and she probably won’t recycle NYDay imo for that spot. I also think she will end with Debut TV.

Domi Solo

Paris N3 surprise songs: Hey Stephen & Maroon (a.k.a. Ratty night) followed by N4 Tayvis extravaganza. What was up with that?

David Peel

So can we talk about the 1989 mismatched shoes 🥴

Heather

Oh my gosh, the Florida nonsense 🤣. My hair dresser is a swiftie and she was trying to tell me that it was about rich people who cheat on their husbands or wives and then move to Florida because she read it in an article. I was like,"...oh really? I wouldn't listen to that lol" We both don't like the song haha but I don't quite think that's what she's getting at.

Aliyah

I was at paris night 1 & I was so gagged. It was also my first taylor show (eventhough I’m a fan since 2013/2014). I was so gagged that I was literally too stunned to speak. I love the pink & blue outfit as well. I saw her so close in it and I loved it so much. My next show is btw the same as yours & I’m at the Liveshow as well. Can’t wait snakes 🐍 Love from Germany 🤍

Diana

I love The one but I do believe that cardigan is more streamed and popular. People go hard with cardigan. She has to appeal to the regular fan.

Taticakes

Long Live is an "i love my fans" song, and she replaced it with "But Daddy I Love Him" because we've been naughty, I guess lmao!!!! But yeah, that's definitely the cruelest omission for me. I would've shortened Red and Midnights just to have Long Live and Tolerate It back.

Taticakes

I really think she re-wrote history herself before the vinyl went to print, and that's why it's AFTER the smallest man who ever lived in her most chrono/logical album tracklist yet. The second she texted Travis back or whatever, she was like, "Wait a second, I can do something about this..."

Shannon

I bought the grey hoodie and I must say… CHEAP. The print and the big photo on the back was so cheap looking, I literally immediately sold it on Poshmark. Couldn’t be more disappointed.

Alli Johnson

If we assume Taylor is the one making the pre-show playlist (I think she's said she's at least involved in picking the songs, but I might be making that up), then she does know who Chappell is because Femininomenon is on it. I remember hearing it at my show in Philly last year, before Chappell's album had even come out.

Ria

I loveeeee the new 1989 outfits!! so fun and so 2014

Ria

Also Adele's numbers for 25 were insaneeee off but its worth it to note that the rules were different back then and you could bundle so eg she sold tickets to her concert as a bundle with the album. If Taylor could do this with the eras tour I reckon she would've sailedddd past that record

Moriah

So is someone gonna come murder me in my sleep because I’ve been also calling the golden Speak Now dress “everything bagel”. The purple one the “the cupcake”. The silver one was “tin foil”. The flowery one was “tissue paper”. This new grayish purple one is “fireworks over your sad empty town”, in my opinion. Surely nicknaming the dresses for fun is not a crime punishable by death here on EOAS. 😂✌🏻🤍

Lia Russo

As someone who shamefully did not join the fandom until last year and has since deep dived into everything Taylor, I respect the seniority you guys have and am in fact so jealous you got to have her music during teen years. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing such in detail perspectives from those years for those of us who missed it. I know more than my friends who always stanned her because of this podcast. I’m always like “actually Ellen that was from the Fearless Tour” or whatever 😂

Kelcy Taylor

What’s shocking me is everyone talks about how bad the bejeweled bracelet was but mine stayed shiny, never turned me green, never broke, and was my favorite piece of merch for over a year before I lost it 😭 (it didn’t fall off, I took it off and misplaced it like a dumb dumb)

LILA

the one person who cried about the archer, hi it's me

LILA

did she really change the lyric from "try and come for my job" in the live? i could not hear that ;;

emma 🌷

i know it’s not in the color scheme but a bright red two piece for ICDIWABH would serve

rachel☁️

Ok but I hate the SHS choreo, especially with the driving the car😭😭 it’s so cringe to me but I’m happy she’s happy so I’m gonna let her rock

CamilleC

I agree Midnights set should have change, she could play Anti hero, Bejeweled, yoyok Maroon and Karma and that's it's, off to bed doll, go sit in an corner and think about what you did to Long live

Ashley C

same i still have mine and it looks great. ive personally only ever had green-turning jewellery like once or twice in my life, so it seems like a personal sensitivity when others get it idk

Ashley C

in the BDILH bridge blocking/set/choreo, I think it's supposed to be a commentary on how she not only feels judged by everyone taking the high ground in a moral way with a religious slant to it, but also in such a hounding way that it feels like a legal stance when the world judged her a la #speakupnowMoVeMeNt. "sarahs and hannahs in their sunday best / clutching their pearls, sighing 'what a mess.'" as well as "the elders had convened down at the city hall."

ashton

15 talking about Taylor’s Versions is crazy 😭 I was a stan before you were even born!

Erin S

I think you’re wrong about The Alchemy after Paris N4 Surprise Songs!

Erin S

Travis was at N4

Lacey Pinto

Can you (Zack and Madeline) share your opinions on the new acoustic set dresses? You talked about all the other outfit changes but not those dresses!

🌷Elle🌷

I've been to Destin, have vacationed there. Yes, the beaches are beautiful, but so are the ones around the rest of the state lol Rich people do live there though.

Dana Meyerson

I feel like the new 1989 top+skirts are way more true to the fashion of 2013-2015 and the dominance of that very specific type of high waisted skirt and some people are just too young to appreciate that 🤷🏼‍♀️

Dana Meyerson

the moment i heard the “elders had convened” line i IMMEDIATELY thought of the “swiftie shareholders” satirical infographic (that people thought was real, which speaks volumes unfortunately) 😂

Dana Meyerson

or - hear me out - sparkly gold with a black coat 🤩

Dana Meyerson

also the reason she got the OG midnights bodysuit back and the other one still hasn’t returned is she had them altered

Ally ❤️

Got my live pink snakes merch last week!!!! What are y’all waiting for?? Adorable!!

Ivan Cervera

Wait zach what nyt podcast were you featured on?

Melanie Sifko

I’m not allowed to exist 🤣🤭 sorry but I live So High School 🤣

Clara

she’s giving both the maylors and tayvis some food 😭

Ula Baśka

Divas! Correction in lyrics - in I Can Do It With a Broken Heart the last lyrics are "Try and come for my job" - I think this means that even if lovers come for her heart and waver her feelings, her professionalism for work will stay untouched - she’s making fun of the rat and if he really wants to hurt her, he should aim for her job, not heart

Cynthia

Agree with Madeline's comments about the Alchemy. She was clearly very in love with Matty for a long, long time. Haven't we all had loves like this or sort of like this or known someone who has? And now can you please discuss Maroon :).

Ula Baśka

Reputation suit - I think she's not introducing another version of it because Swifties would become DELUSIONAL about Rep TV "coming soon" - while TTPD is still gaining its moment on tour

Taylor L

really agree with your comments on how fans are acting with the alleged matty songs…. like we don’t have to love the guy but looking at the context, some of these songs are (imo) glaringly about him. it’s like people don’t think she’s capable of having strong feelings about him the way she did for joe, but to me, she kinda seemed over joe already and so long, london kinda wraps that storyline up. all just my opinion but interesting to think about!!

Bekah Griffin

I feel like a big part of it is the video has the rep suit in it

maryna

those who miss the note change in the 1 may want to check out the note change in i can do it with a broken heart ("i've been doing it since he left") 😀😎

Kylee

I’m just a snake full of surprises but before I decided to ultimately become a hairstylist, I attended art school in Chicago for fashion marketing….Let’s talk about these children calling the Vivienne Westwood deconstructed wedding gown (ummmm context much? Where is the disconnect kids?) A diaper?….a f**** diaper…? The ignorance is palpable. I just can’t ignore this spew. Speak less. What set are you watching people? What song is she opening with? Is she not in her Love Story but make it cunt era running with her dress undone? Does this not paint the picture perfect enough for you (in a moment when her visual representation is spot on for once)? Stop it. I know some people were bothered by her accessory choices (the slay the house boots) but for this look, more is more. I am personally drawn to the black choker motif (alternate look slays too). The Victorian aesthetic transitions nicely into the set, particularly Who’s afraid? Which I need to address now because I’m still a bit gagged by the production of it all. I did not have the same reaction to the song that I saw a lot of people have after first listen of the album and hot take…. sonically, it’s just not her best. We’ve kind of been here once or twice and rep does it better. That being said…. this set man….it changed things for me. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A VISUAL SONG. I can’t even believe I’m about to say this, but this might be one of my favorite sets of all time. The production is WILD, the lighting for all of TTPD still blowing my mind (umm why’d she have to pull the down bad set right of my head just like that?). The VISUALS are so so soooo right for once people. Let’s appreciate these rare moments. Also, Zack, I will convert you to the silver & gold mix & match of it all. I am queen of the eclectic and these two are besties, just like black & brown (they prove this to us time & again with leopard print) they truly can coexist 😘

Kylee

I’m able to listen again, this is all I have left to say. Justice for fucking head hair whipped Sparks Fly. I am listening to her weekly.

Kylee

Ok I lied, one last announcement. Is Taylor listening to Casual? I ask myself this daily. Wr need answers. I’m a Charbie.

ayra

you guys should watch @tessdear on tiktok !! she switches between streams so you can just relax and watch

mikeymasciola

you guys talking on length about the color orange and even zac saying showgirl