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Crying at these AI generated title suggestions.....this alone is proof that AI is far off from replacing the human mind....anyway, WELCOME TO YOUR BESTIES EPISODE! On the agenda today: Taylor's relationship with Max Martin, Finneas slander, Taylor's 'best' album, her knowledge (or lack thereof) of the Real Housewives, and more. Enjoy!

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Kylee

The Bolter is so red coded and TTPD anthology is extremely accessible. Hey snakes Happy US Memorial Day…Time to Kiki with a coffee on my day off. Also, if you think there aren’t girlies around the world that have ran with their dresses undone screaming but daddy I love him, well you just really haven’t met me yet 😘

Kylee

Clara Bow she flickers, she dazzles, she grows. Perfect song. No notes. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Joanna

When you said what would a tortured poets outfit be? My first intrusive thought was “straight jacket” 😅

Ashley C

I will be the sole person in the nursing home talking about 'how I'm feeling now' folklore: "I'm a fire and I'll keep your brittle heart warm if your cascade ocean wave blues come" me: 🙂 hifn: "my clique on me for life" me: 🤯😵‍💫🫨

Bnans

do you guys think taylor isn’t singing the whole show or does she switch back and forth depending on the song ?

Swiftologist

switches a lot, but ttpd is weirdly lipped compared to the rest of the set

Kylee

God this is embarrassing but I just have to say it in three paragraph essay form so buckle up kids…someone hit mama’s Max martin nerve and I have some things I need to say…it’s like, I can’t talk about Max, but I’m going to obviously because it’s me. I won’t listen to that melody bull shit out of pure spite + I’ll never forgive nor forget his blatant disrespect to Style Tv…it’s horse shit is what it is. The fact that aging into obscurity flop of man who accidentally wrote Hit me Baby because of a mistranslation + dumb luck, didn’t have the time to recreate the guitar riff ticket to Nirvana? Well truthfully, that’s all I need to know about him right there. This is my torch + it’s in full blaze, and I have to just be real with you, Mr. Martin…I would like to take this searing hot torch and shove it up your ass. Just to snuff it out, of course, for healing purposes. It’s not healthy to hold onto this kind of hate. You get it Max. Now please sir, we have a seat for you at the round table of ‘highly influential ass holes’ at the bottom of a river that someone cried over Justin Timberlake, and it’s time for you to retire. You’d be amongst music producing greats like John Mayer, Justin (it’s his River of course), Scooter’s hideous ass, and Chris Brown. I think you’re going to find it quite peaceful down there underneath at least 10 ft of deep river water with the boys. No diving equipment necessary, we can provide that for you once you get there. 👋 👇🖕 Like I said, it’s my torch, and my damn right.

Lyndsey

Florida!! catching strays as it should

Kylee

Madeline & me in discord spreading the alchemy truth watching TTPD set live for the first time 🖖 I swear, the night before I just kept hearing Travis whispering in my left ear, ‘she’s going alchemy hehe’ every 13th minute of the hr. And it’s been happening that way ever since…but who are we, ya know? 💊

Kylee

Stop talking about things I want to comment on 😩 Folklore is the lockdown album, it’s fresh in the slammer, pre fresh out. Where were you (in your home trapped) the moment Folklore dropped and you decided to listen to the lead single first, shake things up a bit since this bitch already just did? Now excuse me while I go outside to light my menthol, and really take in this track called Cardigan.

Candace Tirado

Ohhhh this hypothetical Evermore (with the anthology) has scratched such a magical part of my brain. Thank you for the food ♥️

Ashley Gore

Some of you have really never settled down in the suburban part of your hometown and seen your old flame walk by you in the grocery store and make a comment on your sweater so you drive home and take a xanax with your gin and tonic and stab push pins into a metaphorical voodoo doll of his wife who you can actually see watering flowers through the gauzy curtains on your window and you’re counting down the Mondays of February until the next time she goes on a girls trip to Scottsdale with her friends so you can slide into the side gate of their yard and have one the trysts you long for with her husband where he turns down their wedding photo on the nightstand just before you fall into bed together and it shows.

Ria

Can anyone tell me which Kiki lounge specifically Zack tells that island story bc I cant remember for the life of me

reincarnation of helen keller (avery)

why are people booing the housewives, kiki? I love it. I don't watch the show but I love hearing about them from you guys like they are a long lost ex friend group

V

Since Taylor’s great at the structure of storytelling in songs, Last Great American dynasty etc, I would love to see her get back to experimenting with the actual structure of songwriting and turns of phrase etc. I could handle a boring song about life with Travis if it poetically reflected on something introspective, and was more about the music and being creative with how she’s actually telling the story. Like I wish she’d really get back to those roots of Nashville country storytelling and perfecting her craft even more. A complex interesting package can make even the most simple boring thing poetic.

V

I love folklore, but it’s also like kind of British cosplay in that the inspiration was so British-centric (bc of the Turkey I presume, who probably looks down on American writers) - I want her to spend a summer (while Travis is doing god knows what) reading alllll the American classics, Fitzgerald, Hemingway, etc by the pool. Give me little melancholic Gatsby-esque reflections about the massive wealth you’ve accumulated while you stand by the sea and reflect on if you ever did manage to reach the green light and if you even believe in it anymore. Like give me a slice of your actual life - give me a slow never ending summer locked in your mansion due to crazies harassing you if you leave, and the sweltering heat wave is driving you a little crazy and you reflect on your life

Courtney Shatzer

Did you see that Taylor Swift performed a 'Max Martin Medley' in Sweden on final night of Stockholm Eras Tour while he was present at the show… I was a little surprised, but I took that as they must not have major beef or anything.

V

It’s called scary island

Courtney Shatzer

What did you think about her doing the medley of “Come back be here/ The way I loved you/ The other side of the door” in Lisbon. Are yall upset that she didn’t do the full version of “come back be here”

thalia

let us not forget taylor is besties with GIGI HADID ....... i know she has thoughts on yolanda's lyme disease.

V

🤣🤣😂😂👏

Aliza Lieb

i'm friggin obsessed with you two

thalia

ok i cracked the "i was a functioning alcoholic til nobody noticed my new aesthetic" on first listen ... let me (attempt to) explain. since 2022 we have been on our toes, keeping tabs on everything looking for easter eggs and what album is coming next (all the pieces of me shattered as the crowd was chanting more!). and obviously there was a shift in her aesthetic during and post-matty, but i think she's using her "new aesthetic" as a metaphor for the catastrophe she was dealing with. we NOTICED the aesthetic but not in the intended way. girls were screaming rep tv, and many were saying the style was still midnights-coded, when in reality it was ttpd. she was such a functioning alcoholic that she had convinced people that her new aesthetic meant a new album, but what they didn't notice was the expression of her emotions through that aesthetic. the synonymity between her emotions, album aesthetics, and the albums themselves, is undeniable and blurring the lines, and i think what she's trying to allude to here. it's the connection of her personal life and fame that's running through the album. after all, it's the pressure of her fame that ultimately plays a heavy hand in her relationships falling apart, including matty -- and "it's ruining my life" can in turn be interpreted as her career/reputation (not that it did any serious harm ... but it almost could have). sorry for my ramblings omfg im a fortnight shooter (up until post gets on the mic.) LOVE YOU SNAKES

Mia Mar

Almost 2 hour episode besties what did we do to deserve

Swiftologist

Paid $15 a month....a we will give you bang for each and every buck.....

Faye

her liverpool shows are much closer to windermere 🥹

Kelsee Cat

Dude I want to get into housewives but I have noooooo idea where to start and where to go from there.

Leslie

mmmm this would be delicious

V

Also why is Taylor so Jay Gatsby coded? Filthy rich and Matty is…daisy🤣 she didn’t learn from Gatsby to not be obsessed with the idea of a situationship from years ago bc that person might actually be horrible and do you dirty. She’s also so like him bc they’re both ruthless about getting what they want and sharks in business but also super innocent and just want to do it all to find pure true love😂😂

Swiftologist

Start with salt lake city!! It's new and shorter

Susannah Wallace

Girls if anyone can source me a purple speak now dress (speak now tour version), let me know!

Lisa Hurley

JAJSJSJJSNM Opposable thumbs?! GOODBYE

maryna

who hasn't seen teresa guidice? well, me 😄😳 maybe it's just not a thing in my country? this person is not well known over here, i'm pretty sure.

Ash

I would absolutely love more of what you're describing, but for me TLGAD is one existing example of this 💚✨ I also love the Gatsby reference in Happiness! 🥲

Krisi

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The real 'I love Joe' album isn't Lover, it's Reputation. In Lover she was already doubting them relationship.

charisma

20:47 - 20:56 Zack’s face when she said that 😭 lmaooo

Tanner K

Madeline you're a genius for the prophecy of Showgirl that occured in this ep

Myra

Currently listening my way through the Besties archive, and I may have had an epiphany. I have also vehemently been on the side of, “The Alchemy is not about Travis.” BUT What if it’s about taking your feelings for one person, alchemizing them, and repurposing them for someone else?? Maybe the song is a reflection of the messiness that comes from that alchemy/transference. It has just never sat right with me that Taylor would just haphazardly throw in some football metaphors and try to make it about Travis. She's more calculated than that.