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Something that literally KILLLSSSSS ME … is the whole “pics or he’s not even real” mentality that gaylors have towards Joe. Not even just the Gaylors, but anytime something happens or Taylor goes out to an event etc, if Joe isn’t in every single picture then people are like : how come Joe isn’t present at this MAJOR MILESTONE EVENT in Taylor’s career?? What kinda boyfriend is that??? No matter how many times Taylor says their relationship is private. Or the fact that Joe is also a working actor or who can’t just jet off to America or wherever every time Taylor even so much as goes for lunch? 

And like more than half the time he legitimately was there. Whole time. They did it at the VMA’s bc he didn’t do a step and repeat with her at the after party when she was in her slay Outfit, and whole time he was there as was displayed later on in the night. She legitimately ran for her life with him to get back to the car so they wouldn’t get pictures of them together. Why she does that is her fucking business, you know? Probably because she always allowed her relationships to be publicly picked apart before and has idk maybe relationship trauma from that?? But everrytthhinnnggg is a conspiracy lmfao. She posts pics with him, he’s a beard or a terrible boyfriend. She doesn’t post pics with him, he’s a beard or a terrible boyfriend. It must be so exhausting. She and him keep their shit private bc at least everyone thinking it’s fake or something is better than having it constantly picked apart!!! 

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malk

Agreed! She’s also expressed several times how her previous, more public relationships, were damaged in one way or another by too much public involvement (whether by the media or by fans) - there’s a reason they’ve been together almost 7 years and it’s going strong! She can and should set whatever boundaries she can because the nosey freaks are in abundance!

Abby

I had to stare at the photo of him on the couch for a few minutes it was like an optical illusion that really jarred me

tyler

gaylors ALWAAAYS tell on themselves… like tell me you weren’t a fan of taylor in real time without telling me… has there EVERR been a gaylor who has been a fan since fearless? since speak now? that’s a real question i need to know the answer to… like it’s not possible, these looney tuned dingbats literally are fans from rep and forward bcuz CLEARLY they are missing pieces of the puzzle & my mind will NAWT be changed…

Ana Facha

i literally just saw someone quote tweet the jack and joe photo with "of course joe alwyn was there it was a pride party why would they exclude gay men" and i just... does it ever stop? is it that hard to stop having conspiracy theories about human beings' private lives and enjoy the out queer artists out there? bc what i think they forget is that yes, there's taylor swift "the product" but she's also a person that they're digging into in an incredibly invasive way. she can't have female friends without them saying she's sleeping with them. at this point i just don't say anything anymore because i get called homophobic, and after i explain that i'm an out bi woman in a queer relationship i get told i have internalised homophobia. someone PLEASE get the girlies some help bc this is far too much.

Lea G

I agree. I try not to interact too much whenever people bring their stuff on the TL but my least fav part is how smug they are thinking like they’re in on some kind of secret. We do not know these people!

shannymac

They either 1.) Don’t get that not everyone has to live their lives online (apologies to the younger fans here, but…seems like a lot of the younger fans have this mentality), or 2. They weren’t fans during 1989/Snakegate to witness her overexposure in real time. Or some combination of both and/or they just love drama. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.

Ashley C

Those kinds of Gaylors are noxious. Why can't people just think to themselves "I bet she's been sexually attracted to a woman at least once" and leave it at that? People always use the Lover era as a whole as evidence for Taylor being a lesbian with Joe as her beard, even though they're forgetting the Lover era was during a high time of tokenized gayness and she was kind of reflecting the culture we were seeing at that moment.

bloop

I’m a big fan of Harry and the mirroring of a lot of Gaylors/Kaylors with how Larries act is staggering. All conspiracy shit like this runs the same and it’s crazy to me these people think they’re unlocking some unspoken truth or knowledge no one else is intelligent enough to understand when they can’t even recognise the fact that these ships are all the same in different fonts💀

Drose

Also a lot of their theories are built on incredibly harmful lesbian stereotypes. For example a lot of the discourse surrounding the Grammys after party was about how it was all queer women present and they were speculating that she was sleeping with all of those women which perpetuates the stereotype about how are lesbians are sleeping together and can’t be purely platonic with their female friends

Cardigan

Completely agree, it's so frustrating because I see people have the most deadbrain takes that he doesn't support her because he's not at an event when she's clearly said she wants to keep her relationship private and wants to keep their careers separate. The truth is these Gaylors will find and excuse to say they're not real regardless of what they do they could post wedding photos tomorrow and gaylors will still say it's fake. At the end of the day some people are so cronically online that they think things aren't real oif they're not constantly posted on social media.

Cardigan

They think she's a fictional character and not a real person.

hannah

it's hilarious to me when they're like "wHy iS tAyLoR aLwAyS sInGiNg aBoUt keEpiNg a ReLaTioNsHiP hiDdeN?!?!? sHe mUsT bE gaY!!!!" when it's like. it's because of you. it's people like y'all lmfao. like they're always saying there's no "straight" explanation for keeping a relationship private. well there is actually when you're taylor swift and literally the entire world has never once shut up about who you're dating. literally not once!!!! taylor could very well be bi, she could very well have hooked up with a girl or two but for fucks sake who CARES! they make it their entire personality and it's creepy. and it'd be creepy if it was about men too. it's fucking weird and i block like ten of them on tiktok per day. ANYWAYS.

Halle

You know, we really don’t give Joe enough credit. Since the news broke that they were dating, he’s been dealing with people saying he’s Taylor’s beard, that he’s an ABUSER (Jimmy Kimmel interview fiasco), that he’d be nothing without Taylor, etc. and he’s held strong for 7 years straight where others haven’t been able to withstand months of that scrutiny and derision. The man must have self-confidence made of steel. P.S. you just know if the two got married and had kids this shit would STILL continue too, because randos on the internet refuse to believe that reality doesn’t align with their gaylor fanfiction.

Ashley C

Also why is Joe wearing the glasses they wear at Wiztech in Wizards of Waverly Place lol