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I’ve been seeing it a lot more often lately that people believe the age of artists really committing to their latest works and going all out on an era with theming and publicity is over. In my mind the pandemic likely had a lot to do with that, because artists couldn’t really promote their works the same way they usually would and plus a lot of art that was coming out during quarantine and that following summer was pandemic themed, in their own ways.

As swifties I think we may be a little biased because Taylor has ALWAYS committed to theming and “reinvention” for her new records - but something that struck me was that Midnights had little to no promo and the theming of it was really minimal - again, could be because Taylor is an artist who is still being very covid cautious. That said, Midnights is unique, in that it does feel like an eraless era. Perhaps because its contents are a culmination of all the eras and isn’t even getting its own themed tour. By contrast, she went TITS OUT on the theming for Lover. Even Folklevermore had its own unique signature just because of its release and stylization. But the thing about Midnights is that yea, it has no real imagery, no real unique signature, and I’d BARELY call it an era at all, only because of what it is as a record. The more I think about it, the more I feel it was just really, like she said at the VMA’s, kinda a gift to fans. Not to say she didn’t work hard on it, but I do think it has no personal signature. It’s an album dedicated to her past albums, not a brand new thing.

To me, I don’t consider the age of eras over, but maybe just went on hold because of the pandemic. Miley’s newest release coming tonight) seems to have a very clear theme, clear imagery, and she’s promoting it. Olivia’s Sour was REALLY themed, if you think about it. Beyoncé isn’t a good example because she hates promo anyways but Renaissance is a clear era, even fucking Harry’s house was a clear era. Lana’s newest drop looks pretty solidly thought out and put together, whereas to me Blue Bannisters and Chemtrails never got an era the same way NFR and especially Born To Die was, AGAIN because of the panny.  I think when Selena gets ready to drop we will see the same thing. The concept of eras is becoming massive, and I say all unbiased that’s at least partly because of Miss Taylor’s impact 🤓, and to say “it’s over” and “streaming killed eras” is just kinda silliness to me and not at all taking into account what the pandemic has done to the industry. What do you guys think?

- Madeline

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Idrac Tom

Fully agree queen

Julie Olive

yeah eras are still VERY prominent. However, genre’s on the other hand are becoming more mutable.

bloop

I may have an unpopular opinion lol but I do worry a little bit about Taylor potentially prematurely entering into the “legacy” stage of her career when it seems post-folkmore there’s more interest than ever in her current creative output. the combination of the re-recordings interspersed with midnights + the concept of the eras tour kiiiinda being a repackaged greatest hits tour + the concept of midnights being a look back on the material & events fans love her for, all kinda give me pause about where she goes from here? I think zack said in the midnights legacy episode that it feels like she’s spinning her wheels a bit and I kinda wonder if that’s compounded by everything else prematurely “ageing” her career. Totally get she’s not gonna be playing the game like she’s 17 anymore, but it’s just interesting to consider where an artist like Taylor goes now after basing her career thus far on these “eras” when we’ve seen what an “eraless” album cycle looks like with midnights (sorry for the novel 😭)

mia

the problem is taylor doesn’t need promotion anymore so nothing is really motivating her to do it a win for her but a loss for us who want to hear about album. i really think midnights was really missing at least one zane lowe interview. we have no other context about what the album is besides the post she made when she announced it.

Mr. Watermelon

I feel mixed about Midnights being an "era" honestly. I think like this album is some sort of milestone. What I mean is that she made her 10th work something that binds together all previous ones (kind of) so the next one (TS11) will be about something different, new and fresh. And for me that's the reason why this album doesn't feel like it has a theme. It's focusing on the past to make connections to the previous albums and eras by not being it's own era. And the fact that this album won't have it's dedicated tour make it seem even more as you call it "eraless". I think concept for this album was interesting on paper, but in execution it make it not being it's own thing. I don't know if any of this makes any sense lol.

christopher c

I think eras will continue to be relevant because they are still needed to cement someone as a star and not a one hit wonder. The two biggest young stars to blow up in recent memory, Billie and Olivia, had very definitive debut eras (theme, sound, aesthetic) that made them stand out from the pack of faceless TikTok filler girlies. Also Lil Nas X was able to level up from feeling like a flash in the pan in his Montero era, with his performances and videos making him memorable beyond Old Town Road. Other young artists that have had hits but not a big era (Kid Laroi, GAYLE, Sabrina Carpenter, Conan Gray) feel much less culturally important.

Abby

I think midnights is different because it’s a concept album. Folklore + evermore showed her that she can really do.. whatever the fuck she wants. It was different circumstances bc of the pandemic but no matter what, if she releases, she will sell albums. I always thought she liked promoting her albums, she looked like she had a lot of fun. But, taylor is so professional that maybe behind the scenes she was exhausted and just doesn’t want to do it anymore. A lot of artists are transparent with how tiring promotion is. Regardless, I see midnights as a stand-alone piece of art and not an era.

Ksenia

"The concept of eras" being Taylor's impact...you forgot Madonna. There is no Taylor Swift without Madonna. Madonna created everything the modern popstar is: sex-positive, can wear anything she wants, and has a massive tour with multiple stages, set pieces, dancers, costumes. And Madonna is the QUEEN of eras; she single-handedly created the concept of female popstar eras, and she did it successfully until her late 40s. That statement/omission on your part was merely forgetful or at worst ignorant. Taylor does NOT get credit for eras, as it is Popstar 101 set by Madonna and done by every popstar after Madonna like Janet Jackson, Kylie Minogue, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Nelly Furtado, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Beyonce etc.

Ksenia

I just got an email saying someone replied to this comment with "Madonna old racist flop I don't care about"...well not defending tone deaf white feminist Madonna but Lana has been blatantly racist so... Also, Taylor will get "old" herself so why the agism? Madonna is helping pave the way for female popstars like Taylor Swift to age and still be in the public eye making art.

Michaela Wagner

This is a topic I think about a lot and I think it’s hard to say! I feel like it’s hard to pinpoint who consistently does it outside of Taylor, miley, Katy and Gaga They all commit to changing their personal style outside of promo unlike many others I think peak “eras” was early 2010s when disney was forcing all those kids to have certain personalities hahaha And I haven’t rly noticied it that much bc so many artists albums look and sound the same era to era Idk that many artists were even thinking about it until the internet started using the word. I think the word gets over used too!

Ksenia

Honestly I find popstars feeling forced into doing eras constricting and a bit sexist as Taylor herself said in Miss Americana, one of the excellent points she really made in that otherwise questionable movie. But I also enjoy a good era and am emotionally attached to Taylor's pre-1989 eras as they were my high school and college years, so I have very mixed feelings about eras.

VK

Not many eras are very memorable any more! Constant promotion does not make an era long lasting! It's the ✨vibes✨ that stay with you. Midnights lasted probably a couple months for me. While 1989 felt like it would never end 😂

Erin Houghton

I do think streaming / tik tok is contributing to the decline of multiple mega radio hits from the same album (think teenage dream, 1989) but an era is so much more than just radio hit singles. Like when I think of the 1989 era for example (and I’m biased as a major swiftie) I don’t think of the #1 singles (well I do lmao) but I also think about the bob with side bangs, the crop tops, the tour, New York City… there were certain looks and motifs throughout the era. And rep didn’t have a ton of radio success but I dare anyone to say rep wasn’t a full blown era with a theme, a look, serving ¢unt, etc. The definition of an artist’s “era” may shift with the times but that’s not to say that eras are dead.

Ashley C

I think Sour is the best pro-eras argument for this since Olivia is young and her album came out right during the pandemic

Ria

Everyone seems to be using Olivia as an example as a new artist who did a real “era” but I disagree. When I think of sour there are no symbols, motifs or standout moments that come to mind. It was a MASSIVE album yes but what comes to mind is driving license and g4u (and the triangle drama and Taylor’s name she used to capitalise off of but let’s not get into that.) Taylor had country boots and sparky guitars to bangs and red to New York and bobs and crop tops to snakes and revenge. Those are THEMES, not just albums with hit songs. There IS a difference. Sour was a successful album which is why some may call it an era but it was nothing more than a breakup album that happened to have viral smash songs. Other than that she was just another skinny gen-z girlie with the same fashion sense as every other gen-z girlie on the streets (this coming from one myself). Nothing wrong with that, it’s just not an ERA. Plus, you can’t tell if it is one without another body of work to compare it to…who knows if the next one will just be another sour or something completely different?

Maja Gunhold

took the words out of my mouth