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To set the scene....

For nearly six years, Taylor was in a relationship with a certain Meleagris and it was a relationship that was based in privacy so ardently they would often RUN for their lives when exiting a building to get to the car so the paparazzi couldn't get a decent picture. Taylor did no interviews during Rep (part of the act, or something she felt compelled to do for her relationship...?), did hardly any television appearances, and rarely went to awards shows. During the Lover era, what little of it there was, she ALMOST returned to form, but mostly all she had the time to do was desperately perform Me at as many places as she could in an attempt to try and make it a hit....flop....

Then of course it was the pandemic and Folkevermore, which mandated staying home and minding her business and not being bejeweled. However, at the start of and into the Midnights era when she was starting to go out and about again, I wonder if that was the deciding factor to the final nail in the coffin of Joe and Taylor.

Judging by the fact that she started immediately going and being everything, everywhere, all at once, one can assume that she felt less able to go out and do her thing while she was with Joe. Six straight years of having the pressure of having to keep everything private, be secretive, not be pictured together, and running to cars from restaurants and parties probably wears on a person after a while. I think there was a time this was all what she legitimately wanted, but when she decided she was over it, Joe wasn't willing to deal with the thought of being a not-private celeb couple and dipped.

Fast forward to today : where, yeah, she's swinging too hard in the opposite direction.

Her and Travis are a C I R C U S of a relationship. They do not hide from pictures, she willingly goes to the games even while knowing she is going to be filmed the entire time, he goes to her shows, they ham it all up, almost like she's kinda saying that she just does not want to hide anymore. Is it too much??? Idk I'm having a bawllll on this bitch so time will tell, but I could imagine that the EXACT polar opposite of the thing that drove you insane for 6 years would probably be pretty appealing. For a while. Lmfao.

Onto the real meat of the matter - it's not really surprising NOR is it interesting that Taylor and Travis engagement rumors are starting to spread. If Taylor used the same purse for a certain amount of time the tabloids would print that she was getting engaged to that purse, too, so it's not really worth putting any stock into.

But thinking about how she's doing everything differently than her last relationship.....

From Lover forward she was begging on her hands and knees for Joe to marry her and well, she wouldn't marry her either a pathological people pleaser etc etc. I think, personally, she is ready to get married. I think she is incredibly curious and interested in the idea of marriage, and she was SO ready to marry Joe, and then it did not happen. And now, well, Travis is there....I made a comment on Twitter about how after so many years of wanting to get married and not getting too, her natural reaction to getting a new boyfriend would be to get engaged fast like a lunatic. I was like...mostly kidding.

But then someone replied and said that she was 100,000% going to do exactly that and they were CERTAIN she was getting engaged to Travis, good or bad, whether it's the right move or the wrong move, whether it's smart or stupid, that's what she's going to do, because she just at this point wants to get married 😭😭😭 or even more to the point, there’s just a part of her brain that desperately wants to overcorrect the past relationship whether it’s a smart idea or not. 

As for me......................well......................I don't dare to surmise her moves. All I know is she really wanted to get married and it didn't happen and she's out here acting like she's Princess Diana day after day after day. I think if he asked, she'd say yes. Even if it was like tomorrow you guys EVEN IF IT WAS TONIGHT.......

And WHAT do you guys think? ❤️

Comments

Rhys Haskin

the turkey and the bitch are no more… i think we should accept our feast she is giving us and let her live her life…

Rhys Haskin

if she does get married to trav, she knows everyone will have an opinion and it will be rather messy no matter what time he pops the question, but what i want to see is a great new album and a finish to the rerecords….

Leslie

I think that might be true about Taylor (although I have my doubts for various reasons), but is it true about Travis? I know he's said some cute little soundbites on his podcast about wanting to find the right lady and settle down and whatever, and maybe it's true, but in GENERAL men aren't in as big of a hurry as women and I'm just not sure I see him proposing after six months no matter how much she might want it. If anything that kind of thing tends to send men running for the hills. I'm sat for whatever happens but I just don't see a quick engagement being it.

Halle

I think Taylor is VERY protective over her money, and would really hold off until she was sure a partner wouldn’t abuse the financial benefit that marrying her would bring. Also, they haven’t lived together yet, and I think that while she does want to get married she would probably also need to see what they would be like together day-to-day

Nicole Gabbie

I think engagement before hitting 2 years in a relationship is a crazy bad idea (for everyone) ❤️ Let’s work through some low moments first, ey

Anne-Marie E

I don't know what to think... and when i DO think something about Taylor, I am so often wrong. I'm just being happy for her, whatever she chooses. And tight now she's seemingly very happy... so I'm happy! I always love reading your thoughts so thatnk you!

FiftySwiftie

I share your sentiments. I think she will marry before the year is up. But perhaps not fur the right reasons , which makes me wonder how long it will last.

Tayswiffer

I think…..she should slow down. Taylor has time and time proved that she hasn’t really changed in the way she deals with her emotions. Break up from a significant relationship - go into full-speed rebound mode. Calvin is nowhere near as important as Joe was and she still managed to follow that same pattern of break up - public spectacle relationship - crash and burn. Will it happen this time? Only time will tell. Maybe it’s the parasocial aspect of it all and hindsight bias, but I just wish she would take some time away from dating and reflect on this constant urge to cling on to the first man that expresses an interest in her. I don’t personally care for Travis Kelce, I think he’s a grade-a dumbass and I can’t really imagine that they have much to talk about. But I also don’t agree with the weird trad- wifey comments people make about them. Nonetheless, there’s a reason why she was with Joe for so long - he was her intellectual equal (even if he wasn’t an equal in, er, any other aspect). For all the flack we give that man, we can’t deny that he is her longest relationship TO DATE….if Taylor didn’t want to be in a relationship, she wouldn’t have. The fact that they were together so long points to a relationship that was clearly very fulfilling in a lot of ways. I’m still kind of hoping for a reconciliation because my spidy senses tingle with the notion that one cannot “get over” a near-decade long relationship that quickly…..especially not THE Taylor Swift. At the end of the day I’d rather see her be happy than see daily candids of her. I’m not obsessive over Joever but I did really think he was gonna be her person….still kinda hoping that he stands there shaking in the rain saying I want you forever and ever…..

lizzie

either way…hopefully she’ll have a juicy prenup

iLaney90

I do kinda wonder if she is overcorrecting from her past relationship, but I think she made the decision to do what she wants when she wants regardless of who is watching/recording before Travis. Like, we saw the beginnings of it I think when she was on the rebound with the 1975 guy and then with how openly she was going out with friends. I am maybe 30% concerned that she might jump into marriage with Travis before they're ready because she's been waiting so long for that. As someone who is also dating in her early 30s and wants marriage, there is a legitimate feeling of losing out on the opportunity to experience marriage and family that is exacerbated by having friends who are getting married and having kids, which Taylor does. A lot of her close circle of friends are married and/or parents. However, I think her and Travis both have the benefit of people who are logical and possessed of common sense in their circles. Idk what they're going to do, but I think they will at least try to be thoughtful about how they approach that decision. Regardless, I don't think this idgaf Taylor is going anywhere soon, whether she stays with Travis or not.

Annamarie Sieberns

I am all for their relationship, but I hope she isn’t moving too fast with everything. Travis seems like a good guy, and she is coming off being with someone who was completely isolated and shut off from everything. I think she lives for the spectacle, but she lives for love even more.

Meli

THIS!! Taylor is not some baby who was being forced to stay inside. Sure she accommodated herself more than he did for her and for that he can fuck himself but, they clearly had a physical and emotional connection (according to her and her music) I also don’t care for Travis, he’s irrelevant to me but if he makes Taylor happy for the time being then good for her. I do wonder if the novelty of him chasing after her and constantly talking about her will grow to be a negative thing 🤔 I’m delulu and think her and harry should reunite but that’s just my delulu mind 😭

S

I mean her swinging in opposite direction has always been her thing, someone in comments mentioned her and Travis not having a lot in common to talk about which I agree with, I think Taylor always wanted to date an art bro who appreciate her craft, Travis appreciate her because of her stardom not because of her craft and she knows it and at this point I think she also knows art bros are never gonna appreciate her like she wants them to

Meli

I thinks it’s a little funny how with Joe he loved her at her worst but couldn’t love her at her best and now with Travis he seems to want her at her Best But can he want her still when things get rocky 😮‍💨

Tayswiffer

Harry is also a dumbass 😭 he’s like that guy from Daisy & The Six, they would be a nightmare together….tbh I’ve always thought that from her songs it sounds like Joe has a very secure attachment style whereas she has anxious attachment (not just random speculation, this is just my interpretation of their dynamic based on her lyrics). I’ve never really thought Joe was in the wrong for wanting privacy. He didn’t grow up like her and he’s also British. British actors and celebs typically aren’t quite as Hollywoodised or into the celebrity tabloid culture. He probably found all this talk about them together really tacky and fair enough, I’m British, I’d get the ick too if randos on the internet were making photo manips of me and my girlfriend😭😭. I’ll always appreciate what he did to fuel Taylor’s artistic growth and that he was ultimately there for her when the rest of the world wasn’t. My theory is that Tay was just mad he wasn’t overtly 🥾 👅 her in public the way Travis does, but again is that really worth destroying a genuine relationship😭

Stav

There is something I don’t buy about Travis. Initially, I was living. But either way, here for the queen as always.

Ally

I think her and Travis make a lot of sense right now, they are unabashedly themselves, yes their relationship is still private but absolutely not secret. I think rather than overcorrecting, she is going back to her true self. I know Joe meant a lot to her and I don’t know if she will truly ever get over a 6 year relationship, but I think she was probably mourning this relationship for a lot longer than we know. I kind of had a feeling if Loverfest happened, her and Joe would break up. Her and Travis right now makes sense, but I do have fears that she will begin to regret some overexposure that is starting to bubble rn due to the publicity of the relationship.

Taylor

I definitely believe she loves Travis and enjoys supporting him but there have been some moments where I see her tapping into her petty ex gf side and I’m here for it (hello TIME interview). I think Taylor is one of the few celebrities around today that is going to have a lasting legacy. She is the Marilyn Monroe, the Princess Diana, the Grace Kelly. She’s lived a fucking life and there are going to be stories told for generations likely. Some things we may never know. I mention that because I feel like she’s done the opposite of what we saw old Hollywood scarlets and celebrities now do so often: Getting married after three dates or having multiple engagements. (Kim Kardashian? Lady Gaga?) And why not? When you have that much money, the means to put together a solid prenup, why not do that for shits and giggles? You have everything at your disposal and you’re bored. What about their lives really change when you have that much money and power? Look at Miss. Ariana Grande. I know that ponytailed girl is sitting in her room, comparing herself to the Elizabeth Taylor with these cheating allegations. (I included this paragraph mostly due to the anger I feel knowing I will be hearing “yes, and?” for months and months on end in dept stores.) I don’t know. I just think it’s interesting. Despite Taylor’s career length, her accomplishments, her wealth, and the industry in which she operates: she maintains what feels like a very sacred view of marriage. I get the impression she only wants to do it once. Part of me thinks it could happen with Travis (or someone else) and part of me wouldn’t be surprised if Taylor never gets married. Not to say she won’t have relationships, she will. Or she could and we never find out until she’s pulling an Elton John goodbye tour and tells us on the last night that she’s going to enjoy settling into life with her husband. She would do some shit like that.

Jana Stanisavljević

I think marriage has always been something she fantasized about, even in her previous relationships that were much shorter. And after all, she is a HUGE romantic, so I could always imagine her saying yes to a proposal, even after a few months (like, I wouldn't have been shocked if she had p.e. said yes to Jake if he had decided to propose), so I can totally see her do that. Whether that's a great idea... well, none of us can know 'cause we really don't know much about this relationship, even though it's so public.

Lindsay

I was with you until joever reconciliation

Vivika

I agree with you Ms Lizard, I feel like she wants a husband STAT & Travis seems like a worthy contender …. He also strikes me as somebody who wants a wifey …. I also see an engagement on the horizon but time will tell 👀

Swiftologist

Interesting comments on JOEVER tbh and the belief that she got over it a bit fast. I feel no one really mentions that anymore and we are all just ready to tomato Joe lmfaooo but there is some tea here

Swiftologist

ME TOO (although I got engaged at less than a year and a half lmfaooo)

hannah

one thing about taylor is she’s gonna do the exact opposite of what i think so lmfao!!! seated for the juice no matter what happens. just gimme the album.

Ally

He has definitely talked about it, I just think both are ready for that kind of relationship but where they are in their careers right now is preventing them spending a lot of quality time together. Yes, every relationship Taylor is in has to be long distance, but I don’t think Travis has been in such a relationship so he’s probably a little more hesitant and willing to take the time to know her and understand her

Starbuck1234!

I do think she is going in the opposite direction but there is more to this, imo. I’m an old timer, sometimes out of touch, but its my understanding that Taylor has been writing about true love, romantic love, marriage, kids, etc for years (remember Mine music video and her talking about it). She’s been writing about marrying joe with paper rings, and mimicked marriage vows on lover, talked about having kids on Peace and moving away from it all on the Lakes. Discussed having kids/family with Paul McCartney. Most of her friends (Gigi, Blake, Sophie, Claire, Brittany) and peers (Katy Perry, Rihanna, Adele, Beyonce, Shakira) have children now. It’s my experience when you have been in a long term relationship, like with Joe, that does not end in marriage, I do think there is a tendency to fling forward into the opposite direction. However, it is also that she is at that age. Do not get me wrong, anyone can or cannot get married or not married whenever they want. I do not care. But, at 34 (touring to her 35th birthday) if she was thinking about marriage before, she definitely would be thinking about it now. Last thing either she or Travis want to do is to enter into a long term relationship and after 5 years and nearly 40 years old to not be married. Unfortunately, people often fall in love with people and THEN discuss marriage/future only to then realize that they want different things. After that long term relationship, I believe she and Travis had those conversations EARLY on to know what each other want in the future, at least right now, and relationship goals to know first off whether they would be compatible long term or not. Otherwise no need to waste time having fun and falling in love only to know it won’t work in the long haul. If this is the long haul, how’d we get here so soon, so to speak. So, yes, I think this will go quickly either way. Breakup or marriage, with this relationship. Yes. And I think they have already figured that out by now. Will they get married? I don’t know, but if they are still together over the summer then I’ll say yes. She wants to be married, but i don’t think it is leading her to marry just anyone, or someone who is incompatible with her. I think those were probably their first few dates and serious conversations. This relationship is with the goal of getting married, on both sides, and I think he’s so far proven to be able to handle her fame and scrutiny better than all the others. He went to the airport to greet her and to ride along side her in the harsh weather. He is behaving unlike anyone else. Let’s her bejeweled, bejewels her in public. Someone said he is not smart enough for her. Who knows how smart he is? He has a college degree. He’s a leader in his profession and in history. Maybe what she really wants is someone who makes her laugh and makes her feel special, loved, and proud of her and wants to tell the world. Maybe that’s what she needs in a partner. I think she will marry him and I am here for it.

Ksenia

If Taylor wants to marry Travis, she will learn what Zoe Kravitz said about her marriage to Karl Glusman in GQ: Turning 30 also inspired her to lean hard into domesticity after her wild 20s. “There’s something romantic and exciting about being like, Oh, I’m an adult. I stay home and cook now. I bake bread,” she says. “Then I think you do that for a couple years and you realize there’s still a lot of life to be had.” There are still adventures, and relationships, and new things to create, and you can’t do that if you’re pretending that you’re getting your AARP card at 35. “I’m done romanticizing the ‘old is domestic’ thing. It’s cute for a minute and then it’s not.” Her experiment with domesticity involved, as so many do, a marriage. In 2019, Kravitz wed her longtime boyfriend, the actor Karl Glusman. Eighteen months later, she filed for divorce. “I just learned to think about who I am and what I want,” Kravitz explains. “You meet someone who’s amazing and wants to marry you, and there’s nothing wrong with that. If there’s nothing wrong, then why wouldn’t you do it? You love them and that’s what you do. It’s a hard question to ask yourself: ‘Maybe I don’t want the thing that I’m supposed to want, a marriage, children, any of it. I don’t know if I want that at all.’ That’s an uncomfortable question, especially for a woman to ask herself.” https://www.gq.com/story/zoe-kravitz-men-of-the-year-cover-2022#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI'm%20done%20romanticizing%20the,boyfriend%2C%20the%20actor%20Karl%20Glusman.

Melinda

I just wonder what kind of tacky outfit he would wear at the altar.

Monika

I wonder if she's testing having an open big relationship to see if that can work in her life. Most people try to overcorrect/learn from past relationships. I know it seems like they are totally not private but I actually think it could be way worse. When they are in KC (where they spent most of their time together) it's pretty quiet except on game days. I can't even begin to imagine if this was playing out in NYC, pap pictures everyday! The summer tour will be everywhere...I think she is enjoying killing two birds with one stone by not having to do any promo and having these weekly reminders of her existence. With Travis I love them together but go back and forth on how it will play out. His last relationship ended because he wouldn't propose after 5+ years, but at the same time he shares how he really wants what his brother has (a family). I think this summer tour will be a big indicator to see if he can handle following her around. From his interview he seems to be following her lead in regards to what they are sharing and how open they are being and I think if they do move onto marriage/kids they will change the amount they share. What will be a major challenge is post football, many athletes really struggle with their identity once they retire and if he goes Hollywood that should be interesting to see how they make that work. I think in theory this relationship has a lot of things going for it to work out and I'm hoping for the best because I'm pilled as well.

Swiftlennial

We don't give Taylor enough credit for the amount of growth she's gone through. She got her messy era out of the way by July, just in time to meet and start dating Travis, which is probably the first relationship where that has been alignment on core values and mutual respect. She's leveled the fuck up. Also ... speaking for myself as a straight, independent woman currently in my mid 30s and having never been married, I am not interested in marrying the first guy that asks. I ain't looking to settle just for a Mrs. in front of my name because ... well, why the hell would I? Life is great as is, and I'm way more interested in becoming the best version of myself than getting a proposal. My parents have been married 44 years and are still lovebirds, so I believe in marriage. But only to the right person for the right reasons. Taylor is not going to make that kind of commitment with someone just to overcorrect after wasting 6 years.

Ash

This KILLED me 😭😭😭

Ally ❤️

Agree. Also: when you know, you know…

Ally ❤️

The art bros are too threatened by her. My husband, not a fan btw, says Taylor is like a modern day Mozart. No hyperbole, I agree with him… That has to be hella intimidating unless you too are at the top of your game in the same way. Travis is at a historic level in his field. He finished college and got his degree. Is he an intellectual- not by any measure. But does she need one at home? I don’t think so. She needs someone real, honest, down to earth, who worships the ground she walks on. Travis is a mastermind in that way. Cuz he snuck into the end zone by being himself, and not preening and opining about his own genius and how he is above it all… We may never know what shit joe was out there talking behind Taylor’s back, but it got back to Taylor and I am thinking it was really bad. I also think he stepped out on her more than once. Why do I think that? Because once she told her friends, they all mass unfollowed…and they didn’t wait to do it, they were in cars on their way home. TS11 is gonna scorch the earth. But that’s just my own opinion. Either way, Jack said Taylor will be fine… and I believe him.

Ally ❤️

Same. If a man talks shit then we owe him nothing.

Ally ❤️

40 days for me. We are old and happy

T

At some point in all the nyc night out pap walking and after like the 3rd or 4th game she went to I felt this girl is really trying to desensitize the public to her by making herself overly available. Iconic, never been done. But in terms of the purses, she must've also sensed right away this new one wasn't going to be able to make her feel intellectually inferior and that was at the top of the criteria list for her new man. The addition of the doja cat song to the pre concert play list also makes me think she enjoys his presence more, physically, and who could blame her.

T

Some marble cake ass lookin tux, no doubt

Michelle Johnson

I meannn, it’s a choice. I don’t get it. But I’m entertained! For me personally, I have really enjoyed songs like mirrorball, nothing new, yoyok, and mastermind that are so introspective and puts the spotlight solely on her. I’d love an era where she was on her own for awhile and wrote more albums with more songs like this. But alas, we have surf swag and nfl wags instead.

Angelina

I honestly could see them getting engaged this year. But not until at least like April. I think Taylor would at least want to make it to the almost a year mark. Whether or not a wedding or marriage actually happens as a result of that engagement… who knows.

Emily

Agreed with everything! I’m not sure what Taylor will dooo, BUT I do think the engagement stories give the intended effect anyway? Taylor has always been an expert at getting right to the root of the problem with her ex’s and reading them to filth in her lyrics, but the flip side of that is she reveals a lot about herself, too. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but I mean that to say is she makes it very clear what exactly bothers her, regardless if that’s a legitimate criticism like old ass John Mayer and Jake Gyllenhaal leading her on, or more petty like Harry Styles doing Mick Jagger cosplay in 2014. As you mentioned, marriage seems to be the central issue with Joever. In her view she sacrificed the latter half of her 20’s and early 30’s and that man couldn’t even get down on one knee. She’s pissed! But more pressingly I think she’s sensitive to looking like a fool, like a 34 year old teenage girl still getting clowned on for having too many boyfriends who all dump her in the end. Jack posting that You’re Losing Me was written in December 2021 and her immediately following that with liking a years-old tweet about Paul and Linda being the inspiration for Sweet Nothing gave the game away there. So whether it’s her own PR planting the engagement stories (unlikely), or just letting the tabloids mouth off on thee it couple while expressly NOT denying them (most likely,) it’s in the public’s mind now that *someone* is planning to marry Taylor and planning to marry her ASAP because who wouldn't?

Syd

All of this! Maybe projecting, but I knew what I wanted so clearly after a 6.5y relationship ended. Was able to rule people in/out much faster when I started dating again. Taylor is smart and I could see her doing this too.

Janelle

Velvet tux for sure

Melinda

Janelle, I think you’re absolutely correct.

T

This should really be the prayer at the beginning of swiftologist videos.

emeraldgreaves

i think tayvis engagement is likely, but tayvis marriage is a whole different ballgame in terms of combining lifestyles. either taylor would have to start spending more time in KC, travis commutes via jet, or our calculating queen executes her master plan to get travis to transfer to the eagles (this is a JOKE. but it would put him much nearer to NYC/nashville and also be very funny)

Rachel Bullock

I think it would happen after at least a year, but I can totally see her saying yes to an engagement if she was still into him by then, because the turkey took too long and now he's cooked 🤷‍♀️

Sarah Coltrona

I had to google Meleagris. I’ve never laughed so much before. Thanks 🐍🐍

Allie Olives

I think it’s possible for her and Travis to go private after this initial super public moment. After enough time the public interest will fade a little, which will probably be a relief. I think we forget that it takes effort to maintain the extreme hype she currently has. Without effort put in the hype will die down some (only “some” because it’s still TS baby, c’mon).

Sarah

I think she wants a partner but I dont see her rushing to get married. She knows you have too much to lose in marriage. I think she’s doing whatever the hell she wants. She’s the man

Sarah

Marriage is so overrated. What do you even need it for

MaryRiley

Realistically, Travis has only 2-3 more years in the NFL. I think they’ll always keep a house in Kansas City and I could see her having their kids there early on. Eventually, I think they’ll have to settle in NY or LA once they’re a family.