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MA3 Hardware Investment (Patreon)

Published:
2020-06-15 20:31:00
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

MA3 Hardware Investment

  • Sell All MA2 gear and buy and MA3 Full Size. - 6 to 9 month time frame 19
  • Sell All MA2 gear and buy and MA3 Light. - 3 month time frame 49
  • Keep all MA2 gear (for rental) and buy MA2 Light/Compact - 6 to 9 month time frame 81
  • Keep all MA2 Gear and buy an MA3 Command Wing. - 3 month time frame 37
  • 2020-06-15
  • multiple choice
  • 186 votes
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Content

I'm thinking about finally taking the plunge into owning some MA3 gear since I'm anticipating that in about 18-24 months it'll be more useful than MA2 and I'd like to be one of the first power-users of MA3  to fully take advantage of its new features. However, there are a few options I need to consider before I pull the trigger on anything and wanted to get your thoughts.

Currently I own an MA2 Light worth approximately $19,000 and an NPU worth approximately $4500.

I hardly ever finance anything, so all of these options will be for outright purchases, and larger purchases will take a bit longer to realize.

*option 3 is meant to say buy MA3 Light/Compact

Comments

Luca Sorace

What's the price of a ma3 full-size and a ma3 light?

Kris Goodman

Certainly keep all MA2 gear, as that will still be valuable for years to come. There will always be folk wanting to use it so it could be a potential extra source of income. I'm assuming option 3 was meant to be buying MA3 Light/COmpact. Being an early buyer will certain grant you more return on the MA3 investment as it will be around for at least 10 years if not longer (12-15+)

James Tull

The command wing is good. But running a command wing myself week to week, the main thing I'd want is the letter box screens, they would give back so much real-estate to my screens. Though the timeline kinda suggests it might be worth keeping MA2 for a while yet.

Sam Jimenez

I think the 3rd option is supposed to say MA3 compact?

Kai Sauer

If you would order an ma3 now, you‘ll get it one year after order or later - many big dry hire company’s from around the world ordered ma3 consoles allready - so you have to wait at minimum one year

Jeff Brink

The biggest question you have to ask yourself is what is the end goal of the purchase? If it's to make money off it then one of the best pieces of advice I got was don't buy it till you book it. Obviously you want some hands on with the gear first, but what can you realistically get on your next show/gig? Will they rent your MA3 Light or will they only want a full size? If they only take a full size then it's probably better to save up. If they'll easily take a light - then that seems like a great investment to step up since you have MA2 mode and can still use it like what you have but it's ready for the future. Like you said in one of your streams, an MA3 command wing without Mode 2 is not that appealing.

Kris Goodman

In terms of the compact/lite/full I would speak to people you know and trust with any of the compact consoles. And see how they feel about not having the full or lite consoles and if they feel any regret from not getting the bigger consoles.

Kris Goodman
>>38704053

Also worth looking at the CMD Wing console instead of the wing of your thinking of going down that route to start with.

Ethan Bigelow

Torn between 1 and 3 but IMO keeping the MA2 as a rental would benefit you long term financially but it may give you some headaches dealing with it while you’re on the road. However, a full size 3 would have more benefit with the additional parameters and execs plus you can rent it out too when you’re not using it at a higher rate and it will be relevant for longer than the 2 will at this point.

Scott Hays

How dry hire do you do vs projects where you are designer/programmer/operator with your own control package. We recd our 3 full last year in time for summer festival runs...no LD would have a 3 running mode 2 at that point, so we couldn’t even rent it as a backup...This year is pretty much bust so looking forward I’d keep my MA2 stuff and go for the 3 Light...it’s arrival would likely be delayed anyway. Although I bet you have a super secret connection you could use to jump the line!

Joe Zammuto

Sell all MA2 gear and get MA3 light, since you can still rent it out to MA2 users because of mode2. Have to remember that the compact comes with a lot of limitations that will likely result in regretting passing up the MA3 light down the road.

Luke Lewkowicz

I wouldn't invest for at least a year. Until we know how the industry is going to move forward I rather conserve my capital. If you really want to learn MA3, the onPC (or on Mac) versions, even though currently buggy, are getting better and would work for programming virtual shows. As Jeff Brink said, "Don't buy it til you book it." Once we know what the market looks like, and what the producers will pay for, then you can make the economic case for buying. leasing, or renting.

Marco La Russa

A very good argument from Luke Lewkowicz, which I agree with.

Christian Jackson
>>38703827

Primarily I wanted to get it not for immediate rental but so that I could make more videos about it. There’s only so much I can do with onpc tutorials but I suppose onpc can fill the gap until the waitlist clears up. I would probably keep the MA2 / npu at the shop for rentals and then have the 3 at home. I’ve found that my light isn’t really ever “denied” for rentals because it’s not a full but there is definitely a possibility of that happening. The other factor here is transport because I cannot transport a full by myself easily.

Bryson Means

I would suggest keeping the MA2. And go with maybe the wing first. Everyone has all ready hit on most of my points. But isn’t the real big change the keys placement and being use to that. Obviously the extra windows and wheels. But figure could get by with midi controllers. At least until the market is back up. And don’t you have a 3 just sitting there. Lol ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

Jean Gonzales

Light and processing units in the future would be my suggestion.

GIglight.co.uk

I would not sell any gear right now unless really need to, the used value will be dragged down by all those offloading kit to keep their companies afloat during this pandemic. If anything then keep your gear, save and add to your inventory would be my approach.

Jeremy Oake

Having the ma2 gear for rentals would be a great benefit but I think the main thing to consider if you are thinking of going with a fullsize ma3 is how you will get it in/out of your apartment and your vehicle. Obviously the easiest way would be to have a ground floor office space but that may not be in the budget.

Ryan Pervola

Honestly I know too many people who financed a MA3 and right now are struggling financially to get any return off of it any time soon, many are resorting to selling it. It might be a smarter and safer investment atm to either invest in the MA3 command wing if you really want to get some hardware, but with everything in the state its in right now it might be a risky investment to get a bigger 3 console.