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Retry: Demon’s Souls was meant to come out in the summer of 2021. That was the plan.

When the game was released on November 19th, 2020, we began work on the show straight away. Episodes were planned and time was blocked out to film. We wanted to offer the show in 4K, so we conducted some early tests using a range of 4K capture kits to see what was the best option. (These tests are still up on the channel, just hidden from public view, if you want to take a look.) But things didn’t go to plan. On January 6th, 2021, Covid rules were once again tightened here in the UK, and we entered a third lockdown here in the UK. Our plans had to change.

We never wanted to film the show over Zoom, and while we finished Retry: Sekiro in between lockdowns filming under social distancing, we didn’t want to do that for Demon’s Souls. It’s something we did out of necessity, to finish Retry: Sekiro in a timely manner, but it always felt weird and unnatural to us. It wasn’t a compromise we wanted to make for a new Souls game. We only get one chance to experience a new FromSoftware game together, and we wanted to ensure filming it would be the best experience possible.

Across 2021, there were pockets of time when restrictions were relaxed and we felt comfortable enough to film but there was never enough time to accomplish what we wanted to with Demon’s Souls. So we filmed Retry: Chalice Dungeons and Retry: Resident Evil 8 when we could.

Only as we approached the end of 2021 did we become comfortable enough to confidently break ground on Demon’s Souls. We started filming the series on November 18th and finished on December 7th. Since the New Year, we’ve been deep into post-production, working on the series every single day. The purpose of this post is not only to give a little insight into what we’ve been working on but to explain why it’s taken longer than other playthroughs that are out there.

Since January, we’ve been editing the episodes. Often we're reducing many hours of footage down to a single episode. There’s a quick way of chopping up this footage into dozens of episodes, and slinging them up onto YouTube. But our approach, and what we want to deliver, takes time. An hour of footage typically takes 4 or more hours to edit, and then each episode receives multiple passes to make it tighter, funnier, and more rewatchable. Typically, an episode will take a full working week to edit, with someone working on it every day, before it’s then checked and revised by someone else.

Yes, we could outsource the post-production of Retry, but we think it’s important that we edit our own show. We believe it’s one of the reasons it’s good. It means we’re able to shape it beyond just what we say when the camera is on. We want the entire show to be authored by us. But when we’re deep in that process it obviously leaves little time or headspace to make much else. We temporarily paused post-production to make We Played Every… Alien Game and Hitman: 3 Ways, so there wasn’t a big gap between videos on the channel, but those shows also took time to be exactly what we wanted. We never want to publish a video for the sake of it.

So what have we been doing with Retry: Demon’s Souls to make it different? Well, settle in.

We wanted to offer this show in 4K as an experiment and a challenge. But working with 4K files poses some specific challenges. While a 4K image is four times larger than something in HD, the files we’re handling are actually much bigger. Not all 4K video files are equal. They may all have the same dimensions, in terms of pixels, but the quality of the image in motion is governed by its bitrate, and this can make files dramatically bigger.

For this series, we’ve shot our camera in 4K ProRes. (Sorry, but you’re going to have to deal with a very clear image of us.) Gameplay files are slightly smaller (but still captured at incredibly high bitrate) to simply keep file sizes within reasonable limits. One hour of our camera equaled roughly 575GB and one hour of game capture equaled 40GB. (We’d also have two identical backup capture kits running in tandem, so as to avoid us encountering an Ornstein and Smough situation.) When you throw in our audio files on top, the entire raw project files for Retry: Demon’s Souls comes to 25027GB.

To edit 4K files you need to be able to read those files quickly. So we invested in some new drives and new computers, but even transferring those files onto a working drive takes hours even over the fastest connections we have. Right now we’re transferring files overnight to work on the next day, refining the edits and adding finishing touches. These finished episodes are then exported overnight and uploaded the following day. It’s a process that requires time, and a fair bit of it.

We want to give the series the best start in life and it’s going to look great for years to come. We know people rewatch our episodes again and again, and we want this series to be something that lasts into the future.

Visual fidelity is just one aspect we’ve tried to improve. We’ve made several others, too – some of which we’re going to be talking about separately in the coming weeks. But for the first time ever we’ve had a proper production budget, which we’ve invested into music, new graphics, and collaborating with a wonderful artist on original thumbnails for every episode. We’ve gone all out to make this the best produced series we’ve ever made, and hopefully set a new standard for what you can do with a Let’s Play.

We left IGN to focus on making the best version of our show, and that aspiration has grown into seeing whether we can make the best long-form playthrough of a game on YouTube. We don’t know if we’ll succeed in that, and whether we do isn’t really important – what’s important is for us to strive towards that goal.

The truth is we could make far more videos with considerably less effort, but making the show in the way we want takes time. We don’t want to make ephemeral videos but proper episodes that can be rewatched, a show that has structure, is properly edited, and goes through meaningful post-production. This ensures Retry gets the hundred little finishing touches that go by the wayside if you’re under pressure to upload constantly.

Unfortunately, if you make Let’s Plays, or other game-related content on the Internet, you’re usually under the pressure to do it quickly. There are a variety of cultural and economic reasons why this is the case. Direct support from our patrons means we never have to talk about algorithms or SEO or CPMs. We recognise this is an immense privilege. It means we can prioritise quality over quantity, put creative decisions before monetary ones, and ultimately, make the things we feel passionate about rather than videos we think will do ‘numbers’. We believe this allows us to do something different with the Let’s Play format.

Of course we want to make things that are liked, and videos that people want to watch, but since we’re supported directly by our audience, we don’t have to make things that appeal to millions for all of this to be viable. We don’t have to advertise products we don’t care about, or cover the latest releases simply because they’re likely to trend. We can spend time making things we find creatively fulfilling.

We’re deeply fortunate to be in a position where we can live by our principles. If we want, we can publish a two-hour video that takes 6 weeks to make if we believe that’s the format it deserves, rather than feeling the need to hack it up into smaller, algorithm-appeasing bites.

We play games, make videos about them, and publish them on YouTube. It’s not original. So we understand why we are sometimes compared to the output of other channels who do something similar. We get excited about new games but we’re not as passionate about covering all the latest releases. Other channels are way better at that than we could ever be. We want to focus on making Let’s Plays and, thanks to our fortunate position, do something  special with that format. The audience will ultimately be the judge, but we believe it’ll result in a much better show, one that will be as good in 10 years time as it is on the day of its publication.

We’ve always worked on things and brought them to you when they were ready. But this project has been our most ambitious – that’s before contending with a pandemic – so it’s taken much longer as a result. We recognise there’s a frustration in some sections of the community that we don’t publish more frequently, but that simply isn’t possible with what we’re trying to achieve with this show and the channel. But it’s never been through a lack of interest or care – in fact, it’s the exact opposite. We may not upload every day, but we’re working on new things for the channel every single day.

We should’ve been much better at communicating the above earlier, and what we want to do in general. But for a lot of the last two years, we were waiting to see how the world turned, and were often just making the best of the circumstances. In future, we want to give you much more insight into what’s going on. We’ve already been talking about fun and engaging ways of doing that.

The second and third years of RKG weren’t what we expected them to be. So many of the plans we had were put on hold, and we adapted the best we could. But now, in our new home, we can start planning for the adventures that lie ahead. Retry: Demon’s Souls is a pivotal project for us. Once it’s released, it’ll give us the time and space to work on other things. In future, alongside Retry, you’ll start to see a variety of projects that embody our approach to making things. We can’t wait to tell you about them in the months ahead.

Thank you for supporting us, and we can’t wait for you to finally share all 17 episodes of Retry: Demon’s Souls with you in June.

RKG x

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Comments

Lorcan Preston

Congrats guys, I’m beyond excited and as ever thank you for keeping us in the loop 👍🏻

Pete Summers

You guys keep doing you, that's why we're all here. Can't wait for it all.

Lady Vengeance

Well happy birthday, me! I know this has been a huge undertaking and I cannot wait to go on this ride. EDIT: also the Directed by: David Finchy reference on the slate 👨‍🍳 💋

Bernard & Danielle Doyle

Thats Class, I mean sure the shows may take a little longer to come out, but I honestly can't think of any other channel where I will actively go back and watch the whole of an old series again, its comparable to a TV show for me ,can't wait for the new ones

Modela

Super proud of you guys, congratulations on everything you’re all achieving and can’t wait for the new show ❤️

Colin Thomson

Can't wait for this, and as we all know and trust in the effort you all put in, it's guaranteed to be more than worth the wait!

Tristan

I don't comment often but been a supporter of you guys since that first season of Dark Souls. Thanks for the update and appreciate the hard work that you guys put in. Can't wait to see Demon Souls and whatever else you boys put out.

Aidan Picton

This just made me so much more excited!

Kevin Sullivan

Love & appreciate the transparency as always guys, genuinely no other creators out there that I'm happier to support than y'all. Looking forward to the series! Thanks for the update & for being you 👏🏼

Patrick Soliman

We're with you lads until the end. We'll support you in whatever you do

Daniel Lagergren

Super excited for this! And really appreciate a look into what goes on behind the scenes! All the best 🍻

Marc (fester) Steed

nice work guys, love the honesty. also I'm 40 in june, so i might just have to have a big pissed up marathon of demons souls to celebrate

Thomas Cottam

Looking forward to it guys! Keep doing you, thats what makes RKG different and the thing I love!

Anthony Cade

I for one would be happy to wait a year for an extremely polished show. The format, the comedy, the plot, the pacing is so much of what I love about RKG. I wouldn't have it any other way and if that means waiting for the show to be refined and edited on a massive scale... So be it. Cannot wait to binge more Retry.

Beardmask

I am beyond excited for this series. You lads the best Let’s Play series out there, for my money. Your craft and care are evident in all your work. Here’s to a new Finchy!

Lorcan Devaney

This is going to be absolutely whopper craic! I hope you three know how magical each of you are and how much your content is truly loved by so many. Thanks for being you and making awesome shit 🖤🖤🖤

The Goldenrod Gazette

Completely appreciate the honesty boys, and I’m sure everyone is on the same page where we’d rather you make the show how you want to, and the quality always speaks for itself when you do. I used to work in TV so I completely understand what a prick it is to log, transfer, and edit massive files. Doing it with a small team must be really tough. Full respect boys, and can’t wait to see the new Finchy. Thanks for all the hard work

Mark Deehan

It will be well worth the wait, of that I have no doubt. I’ve said it before, but the reason Im happy being a Posh Slug is because the output is so good; now I just need Dark Souls 3 on a Plane…

Landon Tyler Cook

I'm so excited boys, always take your time because you put out the best content out there period. Ride or die till the end! Also, I hope it never ends.

TonkyHonkMan

Can't wait for this! Haven't touched Demons Souls since the PS3 days..despite COVID changing the world tendency, this will be worth the wait. There's literally no way I'd prefer to return Boletaria than with the boys. Shield up!

Andy Lamont

Super appreciative of all you do guys. No explanation necessary when the quality is always so clear.

Scott McCrory

Lots of love lads, you guys are one of my only constants, thanks for everything. Can’t wait for this one.

Chase

Speaking to how you do let’s plays as series/seasons, I’d love if one day, maybe at the end, for you all to sell them as such. Without YouTube. I think that’d be neat. Either way, there’s a reason you’re the only ones I support on Patreon. PTT and Retry have been such a comfy place during some very odd moments in life and love to see y’all going strong. My birthday is in June, so thanks for the present!

Charlotte S

I'n sorry that you feel you have to justify a delay so much. The work you all fo behind the scenes doesn't go unnoticed, and everything you put out is absolute class. Cannot wait for this ride to begin!!

Dan Corrigan

Always take the time you need boys. We all appreciate the effort and care you put into these shows!

Spencer Waters

I just want to make sure it’s clear that any expression of impatience from my part is not confused with my frustration of you guys not uploading every day. Hah. I love you boys and all you do! This was exactly the kind of update we’ve all been anticipating.

Emo Seal

You should never feel that you have to apologizing for caring about making the best things you can make, exactly the way you feel they should be made. We wouldn't be here supporting you if we didn't trust your instincts and love the end result. There will always be people who complain, and while I truly appreciate that you all care about the responses you get and want to keep people happy, I hope none of you let anyone's negativity get to you. It's been a completely unpredictable, stressful, mess of a time with the pandemic, and you've adapted through all of it and made me, and tons of other people, laugh more times that I can count during it all despite everything. I'm super excited Demon's Souls is finally almost here, even more so because you all got to do it the way you really wanted to.

Creamachine

It's been a wild ride these last few years, navigating a pandemic world with yall. You're content is always top notch and well worth the wait. Thank you for the update!

Nolan Childerhose

What a wonderful write up! The effort and love you guys put into your work really does shine through. Demon Souls sounds like it'll be a fantastic time and absolutely something your audience will watch again and again. Thanks for all the great content and being a true source of joy during these wild years and for many more to come.

Neil Tillotson

This is amazing news lads! Been looking forward to this one for a long long time and no doubt it's going to absolutely deliver! I know nothing about demon's souls and have purposefully avoided it to experience it for the first time with you guys and Finchy. Keep up the fantastic work lads 👍

Ian Whiting

I don’t know what type of slug I am - I watched your last episode on IGN the day it aired and was instantly hooked. I remember following you guys on twitter and kept checking to hear where you were going. To this day I have been a producer and every few months my husband asks if I know I’m still subscribed to “something” on Patreon. I always have the same response “that’s an essential subscription, don’t worry about it - if you want to cut something you can cancel Netflix”. I only say this to let you know I consider RKG a staple and appreciate you all. So for now I will consider myself a “Grateful Slug” from Chicago.

Matt Wensley

Always good to get a peak behind the curtain at the logistics, and pumped for 4K RKG (4RKG? R4KG?)! Keep up the great work, and much love from the Czech Republic! If you ever make your way over, a Roni (or local equivalent) is on me!

rkg

This is a neat idea. Be really cool to one day make a physical release.

rkg

It's okay. It's also more we wanted to outline what we're trying to do and it's good for us to communicate that a bit more so people know what we're up to.

rkg

We love you, mother of Finchy.

rkg

Love this.

Riley Waite

Take your time lads, all your content is bangin' 👌

Vicente Matos

I used to wonder what the appeal of watching let's plays was, like why watch someone play when you can just play the game yourself.....then I discovered ptt dark souls episode one, you guys quickly made me realize through your banter and style that it's more than just the game play. Being able to learn about a games story through lore master Dan and being highly entertained by the chemistry between you guys, I became an instant fan and would watch episodes over and over until the next one dropped. I appreciate you guys placing quality over quantity, I can't tell you how many times I've watched your different series (both under ptt and retry) multiple times to the point of knowing dialogue like you would from watching a favorite show of yours over and over. I been watching since episode 1 of ptt and I have to say that to me, you guy have accomplished your goal of making videos that can be rewatched and enjoyed long after its release.

Steve Wood

I assumed the file size was part of the issue. I work for a music software company and part of the job is making tutorial videos. Just editing these 1080p, 1 video feed and narration videos can take forever with fits and starts with the software and the occasional crash. You have my sympathies and I can't wait to see the new series. P. S. - You've got me playing and loving Hitman again while I rewatch the amazing new season of 3 Ways. Thank you.

Lawrie

So excited for this. Thanks so much for all the effort you’ve put in, not just to the doing the series, but into being creative and innovative in how you actually go about that. This sort of thing just isn’t possible on a YouTube or Twitch model. Ps. Gonna keep hammering my suggestion of “Play Series” for the name of the style of show you do.

David Reese

I love the format and the care that you all put into what videos you release. Never change boys!

Juliet S

I love the time and effort you put into these series! It means you really care about your content and I'm fine waiting for GREAT content while you boys do your thing! So excited for June and this labor of love!!

Phillif

That commitment to quality entertainment is exactly why you're my favourite let's play group to watch (I'd even say I rather watch Retry than Netflix most of the time). You guys love what you do and it shows in the videos. I've watched all of PTT and Retry multiple times and have been watching from I think the first week of Dark Souls 1; I can't remember exactly since it's been a while. I can't wait for Demon Souls and especially Elden Ring. I'm certain the series are going to be nothing short of brilliant. Cheers from Munich, if you're ever here hit me up and I'll show you around and treat you guys to the best bavarian beer. -Phil

Wythe Davis

Damn guys. This may sound dumb but the effort and care you put into the work makes me really proud to be a Patreon supporter. I know one person’s support is a drop in the bucket but it’s been so cool to see the evolution of RKG and feel, however small, to be a part of that. I’m excited to see where you guys go and I hope you continue to get more recognition for the quality work you all do. As an aside, I’m sure you’ve thought of this, but it would be very cool to see a mini behind the scenes doc of the production on a show. Food for thought. Long live RKG. -Wythe

Ian McGarr

I can't wait, I can't play Demon Souls myself so am excited to experience this with you lads. I'm happy you moved to, don't take this wrong but the last place just didn't seem like home, there was always an off feeling to me in that studio. I'm excited now that you have a proper home with permanent set ups what the future will bring. Thanks for all the hard work.

Emo Seal

❤❤❤!!!

Clayton Genger

Love you guys so much. Appreciate the update and can't wait to see Demon's Souls and everything else to come! Keep up the fantastic work lads. Much love

Phil Williams

Please keep doing things the way you want boys that’s what we all love it’s what sets you apart from the rest.

TyrannoPaulusRex

My beautiful boys, you are so good at what you do, you owe it yourselves to do it in the best way you know how.

Joseph Butler

Just enough time to do another rewatch of every PTT and RKG series ❤️

Matthew Adams

Retry, and everything else you three do with RKG, is my favourite stuff on the internet. I love the way you make your shows and I wouldn't want you making them any other way. You have the audience and support you have because of the care and effort you all put into your work. I'm so excited to see Demon's Souls when it's released, I know it's going to blow all of us away! Keep up the amazing work lads ❤️ xx

Joe Interrante

Can't wait! Keep up the great work boys!

Taylor Atkinson

Wonderful you three. Thanks for the update, looking forward to it.

Kyle Boren

Can’t wait to watch! Thanks for all the hard work you guys

Katie Jones

Amazing, lads! It's obvious just how much work you all put in and it'll be so worth the wait. Very excited!

B&B

So exciting! Can’t wait!!! On a technical note, not sure how it works traditionally for the type of content you guys make but: do you use some kind of proxy workflow? Convert the footage to a lighter weight format to edit with (Prores Proxy for example) and the conform back once the edit is finished for final touches and delivery? If not it might be worth looking into as you’ll only need access to the gigantic file sizes at the very end.

MKFreigeist

Really excited for this! I always got the feeling you guys had a lot more things in mind of how to improve or push Retry to an even higher standard but the time wasn't right yet. Be it a more specialized studio space, Daniel developing his art skills, Rory drinking even more Monsters per day.. I'm really looking forward to seeing a season that sounds like you guys finally got to invest time and money in all the aspects you always wanted. Does this mean there aren't gonna be any other RKG things (aside from the currently running series) until June? If so, it's totally fine.. I will just need to come up with a strategy to survive until June :)

Paul Grabovac

Keep cracking on, Lads. I appreciate the message but also appreciate more just how much effort, time and personal respect you have for your product. Looking forward to the laughs and banter when they're ready. Cheers.

Edward Louis

Can’t wait, take all the time you need lads

Scott Alexander

Wow, thanks for that! Keep up the good work lads. Quality over quantity, always.

rkg

Not at all. One person's support makes a difference. Seriously.

rkg

Yeah, absolutely. It's something we considered. It definitely would've made some bits easier. There's just so many files and as long as we put them onto drives over night, it's no real problem. The new MacBooks can handle the footage pretty nicely. But this definitely would've made some bits easier.

Andrew Parsons

Can't wait to see this released. The test footage looks to be at great quality.

Chris Mulroney

Looking forward to this. I don’t get why some folks get so wound up about the length of time etc I personally see your shows like tv series. It’s out when it’s out.

CentricShisno

They're like Netflix series, when they're about to drop it's exciting and you just wish it was the day already you then binge watch it all in one sitting and wonder why your legs don't work and your eyes hurt. Then you think, I can't wait for the next one. It'll be good when it's ready.

Rose Docherty

Ah I'm so excited this is coming out in June! It's really sweet you communicate these behind the scenes updates but obviously I'd support you even if each episode took a year - the quality of each episode you put out makes these re-watchable for at least a decade! So thrilled for Demon Souls ❤️

Ryan Kowdley

Good stuff - I may even resume at a higher tier now that we're getting the type of game I'm most interested in watching. With all the postponements and cancellations of various shows and streams and a shift away from the "experiencing tough stuff together" dynamic it was tough for me to justify even if there were good reasons. Looking forward to being back in the saddle!

Kel & Kyle

Unbelievable how much some people complain about things. Like you said, quality over quantity. For me, I’m happy to wait for the show to be the best it can be. So excited for this series, boys! You guys are the best and your content is unmatched!

T_Paine

Can’t wait for the new series, boys! Take all the time you need!

Darren Walsh

I actually was so over the moon that you did the chalice dungeons, you could upload 25027GB of fart noises and I'd be content.

Osian Harries

Looking forward to it, you lads have worked unbelievably hard and your content is always by far worth the wait, i’m looking forward to it

Cameron Ferguson

Wow! Truth be told I didn’t realise just how much work goes into this. And it’s really awesome to get an insight into how you guys do it and the tribulations along the way. So excited for this and cannot wait. You guys are running the full nine yards…I love it and appreciate it.