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Epic The Musical "The Circe Saga" FULL Reaction! (Patreon)

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2025-07-18 14:00:09
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Things are heating up, but at least no one died in this saga!The songs I listened to in these animatics are Puppeteer ,Wouldn’t You Like, Done For , and There Are Other WaysLink to the animatic playlist Spywi sent me: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOlKf542kK67FXau3dvqs1X8y8C68FtKv&si=I77qsb7aE_FPiJ_q

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Levi Kenway

"least no one died in this saga!" are you sure?

SauceyRed

LET'S GOOO Elijah just posted RWBY and now Morgan with the next saga hell yeah! And this one has one of my favorite songs, Done For.

Jules Moum

YAAAASSSSS!!!! We've arrived at my next favorite saga, The Circe Saga. AAAAHHH!!! I'm so excited to see your reaction of this!! 8:00, Eurillicus: "Cause we are weak to a power like this!" Ody: "What was it?" Eur: "A woman." Me and Ody: "What😑?" Morgan: "A WOMAN🤣🤣🤣!?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 11:00. Are you serious😳?! THAT CAN HAPPEN?! Cannibalism without knowing... OH MY TITAN😱😱😱 21:15. And there you have it folks. My favorite God in this whole Musical. Yes, Athena has some good points, but Hermes is so much fun! And a little bit mischievous😏 26:35, Circe doing her *thing* here, and Morgan getting an Ace Panic Moment😳🖤🩶🤍💜. Totally understandable Morgan. I'm gonna have such a Bisexual panic the next couple minutes😳🩷💜💙 32:55. YEESSSS!!! For once... For ONCE, talking worked😁😁😁 35:20(last edit), "She turned out to be okay😁." YES❤️‍🔥!!! I love that Circe choose to show Ody and his men and act of kindness, and help them out. Now, we're off to the Underworld Saga, which is... short. I can say that! It's short! We're talking few songs here!! But anyway, I loved this reaction! And I'm looking forward to the next reaction. See ya then Morgan. Bye👋🏼😁

Phoenix_mercury

"i died... And nobody noticed(false, Ody didn't notice 👀) I died and no body cared"🤣

Süppchen

I'm pretty sure the goal of them going to the underworld is for Odysseus and his crew to find the prophet Circe was talking about and that said prophet should tell them how to get home or if it is even possible.

Ditte Gildebro

No, but that's the first thing I said when I clicked on the video and saw the description! 😂

Wolfan Terror

"Atleast no one died in this saga" About that....

jessie H

Hermes is the best! Most helpful god in this whole musical

Andrew Pineda

[Mod] Remember, please don’t spoil anything past what Morgan’s currently watched.

SourCoon

When you're done with the musical, you should check out Troy Doherty's (Hermes VA) Ithaca vlog. It's quite funny and does a great job introducing most of the cast and their casting process. It does have some spoilers, though, so I'd recommend watching it when you're done.

Aiko

Morgan, i love your hair

EDHPlayer

OKAY CHANGE TIME! In the Odyssey, Circe offering herself to Odysseus is seen as a right of the host, and it is the right of Odysseus as a guest to accept the offer. This is what happens because it would be rude in the culture to refuse. Especially with Circe being unmarried. Also, she IS a goddess so there is a risk of spurring the advances of the divine. Greek mythology is chock full of cases as such. Overall, the Odyssey itself is a story detailing the rights of hospitality as seen by the Achaeans. Polyphemus violated guest rights by killing and eating Odysseus’s men, Odysseus’s men violated guest rights by over indulging in Circe’s palace (which triggered the spell), and a bunch of other things that will be touched on later in EPIC. In general, I love the musical, but as an adaptation it misses a lot of key things to note when it comes to the actual story

Jules Moum

I'm sorry, what🤨? English is my second language. I'm very good at it, but not fluent, soo, I need you, too explain it better. Please

Phoenix_mercury

"i died and nobody noticed, I died and nobody cared!"(False. Ody didn't notice, or care🤣)

Levi Kenway

Someone did die in that saga. The joke is no one noticed, not even Ody.

Sarah Mishmash

A little bit of fun trivia for you is that Odysseus is the grandson of Hermes! It’s a bit of a factor as to why he got the moly, but the musical also implies that Circe and Hermes just don’t like each other.

tapdisneyintome

Yeeees, my favourite saga with my 2 favourite voices in Circe and Hermes and Hermes as my all over favourite character. He's so silly and charming. Jorge (the creator or Epic and the voice of Ody) met Talya in auditions and they are dating, so indeed their fates are intwined

FrisbeeDude42

Incorrect! A man fell off of circes roof and died :) there was one death

Phoenix_mercury

"i died and nobody noticed, I died and nobody cared!"(False. Ody didn't notice, or care🤣)

Phoenix_mercury

*great grandson. also not really, Hermes thought it'd be fun to see what happens(as he does), circe knows Hermes vibe of showing up and "here have this"-ing mortals to see what happens 🤷

Phoenix_mercury

The book circe(assuming you mean the miller one) is basically a fanfic🤷 and yes after what happened last time she doesn't trust them, it's a fear response based on prior experience 🤷 it's like saying "I don't go on/near rollercoasters after I almost died on one" or "I got SA'd wearing X thing so I don't/can't wear that thing ever again" she's reacting based on previous experience 🤷 my retired assistance dog is the same, she's been almost attacked and because of it she's now highly reactive(of other dogs show active attention to her she panics) and had to be pulled from work

Thunder

There's a neat musical thing that I really love with the last two songs of this saga. Epic tends to use specific instruments to represent specific characters. Odysseus's is a guitar, and I believe Circe's is either a cello or a violin? Anyways, during Done For, both of their instruments are playing together, to show them competing for control of the situation. In There Are Other Ways, Odysseus's instrument completely vanishes and you only hear Circe's, showing that she now has complete over the situation.

Meghan Ross

Hermes, hands-down was one of the best parts of the saga next to Circe‘s. If you wanna check out Hermes‘s voice actor, he actually has his own YouTube channel where he’s been making songs. His real name is Troy doherty. https://youtu.be/Yox0vw2MTyw?si=5ocDcLigeUIWozLq

Production_Run

Out of every saga in the musical, this is the one that sticks closest to the source material. There's only two major changes: first, how the moly works. In the original, it just nullifies Circe's magic, rather than granting Odysseus his own magic. Second, in the original, Circe succeeds at seducing Odysseus. To what extent Odysseus consented to this is a matter of considerable debate- was he outright magically coerced, was he a fully willing participant, or somewhere in the middle where he agreed to it to get her to release his crew and give them information- but the text is clear and unambiguous that one way or another, Circe and Odysseus did have sex. The source material also has the crew stay on Circe's island (called Aeaea) for a year, which the musical doesn't really show, but it also doesn't do anything to exclude a time skip to the next saga, so that doesn't qualify as a change. Exactly what sort of being Circe is varies with the source. The Odyssey describes her as a goddess, but other sources describe her as a nymph or occasionally even a mortal witch. For the most part, Epic's Eurylochus is a composite character of various crew members so Odysseus can have one specific person to interact with without having to cast and introduce a whole bunch of individual characters who only have one or two significant scenes (Polites isn't even really a composite character, but an original character with the name of a minor character from the original). Eurylochus is, however, specified as the one who stays behind at Circe's palace and escapes to inform Odysseus in the original. The reason so many more Achaean soldiers have died after the Trojan War than during it is that during the war, at least some of the gods were on their side. After their conduct during the war and on their returns home, the gods are mad at almost everyone involved. Hermes is the messenger of the gods and god of travelers. He's also a trickster god and the god of thieves. Hermes had some connection with Odysseus's grandfather Autoclyus, with sources varying about whether Hermes was Autoclyus's mentor or his father (which would make him Odysseus's great-grandfather). Odysseus had probably never actually met Hermes at this point, but Hermes is a major god and he appears here with his divine symbols like his winged shoes and caduceus (the staff with the snakes on it), so any Greek king worth his laurels would immediately recognize him. His reasons for helping Odysseus aren't entirely clear here. In the source material, he supported the Achaeans in the Trojan War, so he may still have been helping Odysseus because of that. In Epic, he might just be playing his trickster role and he'd rather see a proper fight rather than Circe just zapping Odysseus and being done with it. Nymphs in Greek mythology are a class of nature spirits. They're not quite gods, but they're still immortal and have magic powers. They're sort of vaguely comparable to angels in Abrahamic religions, though they have a lot more of their own agency rather than exclusively serving the major gods. In the context of Greek culture, Odysseus's crew being there as guests if anything makes it worse for Circe to have harmed them. Hospitality to guests was hugely important to the Greeks, and many other ancient cultures, because it was crucial for being able to travel at all back then. Travel was incredibly time-consuming and dangerous, and outside of a few of the largest cities, there weren't hotels or anything like that to accommodate travelers when they arrived. The hospitality of random strangers was the only way most travelers could get food and shelter at even their destination, never mind intermediate stops, so there were all sorts of religious rules and practices to enforce sacred hospitality.

Phoenix_mercury

Millers story is still a modern fanfic *based* on an original tale that hammers a specific angle for that specific situation, it's like taking Percy Jackson information and saying that it should be considered cannon, sea of monsters for example with how much it draws inspo from TO like should people believe Riordan's version of calypso even if that's "not what the original creator intended"? TO is one of the epics that we actually have a full proper version of(learned that from a friend who's a classicist and has greek lineage) millers circe(book and character) is to TO what PJO is to TO

PinkPonytail _Girl

YES MY FAVORITE CHARACTER HERMES! He is SUCH a bop and he is sooo silly 😂😂😂😂

PinkPonytail _Girl

Fun fact ody conjures up a Cyclops to fight circe's chimera

PinkPonytail _Girl

Another fun fact: To my knowledge, the voice actress of Circe and the voice of ody (Jorge) are dating and Jorge posted a bit where him and circe's voice actress are acting out there are other ways irl. 😂😂😂

Mary

Hermes is the messenger of the gods, and in this case, generally pretty benign. Another reason he might be helping Odysseus is he is actually Odysseus’s ancestor

Siri2319

38:40 of course there’s more drama, it’s Ancient Greece 😂

Vengerin

Aside from the notes that people already wrote about Circe, how this goes on The Odyssey, what nymphs are and such, Ancient Greece was very, very mysoginist. They considered women half human and the goddesses they had in higher steem were the ones that were virgins by choice (Athena, Artemis, Hestia...) or goddesses that gave them something of value (and they were portrayed as petty) like Aphrodite or Hera. That was bad but, in the other hand, being a gay man was fully accepted and considered the norm, so one thing from the other... In any case, Circe is one of those portrayals of a dangerous woman, evil, seducing, a moral lesson to not trust women... with the times, she ended up being a feminist icon. She was trying to protect her nymph from SA and murder and taking the nymphs mostly are benign beings of nature, is understandable. Still in media she's portrayed as evil (she's one of Wonder Woman's enemies on DC Comics, for example) but I love the spin Epic gives on her and on Odysseus himself.

Adrian

Fun fact about Ody & Hermes; Hermes is his grandpa. He is a son of Zeus, God of Thieves, Trickery, Merchants, Travelers, and a shit ton of other stuff, but most notable the Messenger of the Gods. He's the Greek version of Loki but less malicious in his mischief. He is considered a chthonic god (Underworld god) because one of his duties is also to help guide the dead to River of Styx. But him being the patron of travelers is a big reason why he offers Ody help. Circe: Daughter of the Titan Helios (God of the Sun and the sun itself. Not to be confused with Apollo who drives the sun chariot. Titans were the generation of Gods before the Olympians). While it's vague on if she's a full fledged god or not, she is incredibly powerful. Known for turning men who come to her island into beasts. Sometimes stories cite her as doing that as to protect the women on her island (the nymphs), sometimes it's just out of simple malice. She was also a lover of Odysseus in the myths, sometimes she was the mother of his son (Telegonus) sometimes she was the wife of Telemachus (Ody + Penelopes son). Circe is also associated with other major myths. Her sister, Pasiphae, is the mother of the minotaur (The second most iconic greek monster), and Ariadne (Who became the wife of Dionysus, the god of wine and mania) . Her brother Perses was the holder of the Golden Fleece that was crucial to the Argonauts story. He (Perses) is also the father of Medea (Another powerful and iconic Greek witch who was Jason's wife. Though that was a marriage that ended in tragedy and violence) As for the moly, generally myth wise was that it was deadly for a mortal to harvest, but not for a god as they are deathless, which is why Circe called Ody out having gotten it from Hermes.

LikeCat

I did not known that Hermes was the one who guided souls at the River Styx until AFTER reading ,,The Last Olimpian"...Let's just say his gesture towards Luke had me in tears after learning this fact... Like that whole storyline didn't already. (Also just putting it out May Castellan never found out what happened to Luke after TLO... From what I can remember)

LikeCat

*Cough* PJO, HoO, ToA and every ,,spin-off" *Cough*

Aiste Laurynaityte

the reason why Odysseus' story goes completely crazy after the Trojan war is quite simply fate. In greek mythology there are the fates who decide and dictate the lives of mortals and its nothing you can change. As for Hermes, while he is a bit of a trickster, he is also the god of travelers, so its basically his job to help him, that and Hermes is Odysseus' great grandfather, though i don't really see it as the reason why he helps Odysseus

Aiste Laurynaityte

Also gotta yap abt Hades rq cause the way Disney portrayed him is absolutely inaccurate. Unlike a lot of the greek gods, Hades isn't some petty ass, he does the job he's given, which is watching over the underworld and the souls that reside there, and does it well, he's perhaps the most fair god, the reason media tends to villainise him is because he's associated with death and the underworld, which christianity immediatly labels as hell and the devil, when the underworld in greek mythology is the final resting place of all souls, good and evil and Hades is just the one overseeing the order.

LikeCat

To quote the Ghost King himself ,,Please... He doesn't understand that word. The Underworld is not kind, there is only justice..." (This is one of the prime reasons when he is a terrifing foe to go up against - And the fact that most enemies that the Half-Bloods face ARE from there - in some essence - And they (the forces Hades sends personally) know that hurting the boss' kid would not be good for them, in any capacity)

Adrian

It’s tragic we have barely any myths on Hades. But also makes so much sense. Greeks were terrified of the underworld gods and believed uttering their name would draw their attention = early death, so they barely speak of him. The only genuinely fucked up thing we have on him is the abduction of Persephone in the Hymn to Demeter. Where he kidnapped and forced his niece to marry him then tricked her into eating pomegranate so she always has to return to him. Which is also arguably the only myth we have where he’s a central character.

SauceyRed

Haven't seen this Wouldn't You Like animatic before but I like it (though it doesn't surpass Ximena Natzel's, the absolute peak)

Phoenix_mercury

This one's cool(though I keep seeing it used more and more) but I'll always be biased for Ximena's(obviously) which I'm sadly seeing less people use/see

Phoenix_mercury

You've also gotta remember that abduction(or as some have it "the r@pe") meaning has changed over time, the tldr is basically that at one point it just meant taking(not even forcefully or anything) something/someone from one place to another 🤷

Phoenix_mercury

Also Hermes was known for just showing up to give mortals stuff just to see what happened (could be fun/interesting) so it wasn't seen as a "what's he gonna want in return" unlike other gods/goddesses

Phoenix_mercury

Yeah Hermes is(or is considered, blanking on which exactly rn) a psychopomp

Phoenix_mercury

And is also known to just show up and go "here have this" to mortals because it could be fun/Interesting to see what happens

Phoenix_mercury

I still love the irony(?) of Hermes being on the circe saga with a va with that name yet the first saga was the Troy saga🤣

Adrian

@Phoenix, true, the idea of abduction for marriage isn't quite so cut and dry in context of the ancient greeks. BUT the Hymn to Demeter doesn't leave a lot of room for interpretation on whether she was a willing participant in this or not when the poem straight up says, and I quote: "He seized her against her will" || "And drove away as she wept. She cried with a piercing voice, calling upon her father" || "She was being taken, against her will, at the behest of Zeus," -- About Hades snatching Persephone. "he compelled me by biâ to eat of it" -- Persephone to Demeter on eating the pomegranate. Keep in mind that **bia** translates to "Force, violence, strength" meaning that he didn't nicely ask her to eat the seeds like a lot of people claim. "It was very much against my will. I cried with a piercing voice. These things, grieving, I tell you, and they are all alêthea [True]" -- Persephone to Demeter, outright saying she was kidnapped and is not happy about it. So, despite what modern reimagining's say, its pretty hard to claim that there was no force or that Persephone actually wanted to go. It was, very much, an abduction and an unwanted marraige

Tintros

"Odysseus I was so worried you were going to become a fuckboy!" Things I never expected to hear :) I'm glad you're enjoying this. It's interesting to see your take on things having no experience with the source material. We read that in school when I was but a teeny tiny nerdling, and since then I've encountered it in movies, lit, video games, board games, and a lot of early D&D material :) So it's nice to run into somebody that can look at it with new eyes.

Ryry GK

Circe is a minor banished goddess, daughter of an Oceanid nymph, Perse, and the Titan god Helios (Sun). This makes her semi-divine, possessing immense magical powers that set her apart from mere nymphs, though her mother was one.

Henry

“No one died” elpenor: 😐