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THE GRIMM ARE GETTING INSANE! I feel so bad for Blake and Yang :(

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Moonas

I just got a black cat and her name is Blake 🖤

Suplee215

Ironwood is easy to distrust and suspect when he first shows up. He is introduced as a likely war hawk who is keeping secrets. But you learn the secret he's keeping is related to the attack on Amber and the whole secret society protecting the world and he's paranoid because of that. Ozpin disagree with how he's dealing with the situation but I think both got points. Overall Ironwood wants to protect society with an aggressive method. In the battle you see him give the kids an option to fight or leave without blame. He even wasnt even that hard on Yang when he had to disqualify her from the tournament. He was wrong in his hypothesis to why Yang did it but its a understandable one and one from empathy. And speaking of empathy, he has robotic replacements all in his body. Honestly, Ironwood is interesting because we are used to the hyper aggressive military leader being the villain. But hes just a honest lawful good leader.

Dreanner95

I am with Blake on this one. Sun was being pretty creepy by just following her without making himself known.

Symbolic Remnant

Yeah regarding Ironwood… he’s not a sinister man. There is no risk of him betraying of what he sees as the cause of highest good… there is only the question of how he may overzealously escalate against those he sees as threatening it

Legiblestew

I love how you just nail it everytime with your observations on the characters' inner turmoil! Yang processing her trauma is one of my favorite things about this volume. I really appreciate how the writers actually respected the gravity of what happened to her and wrote her needing time to process it all instead of just being instantly fine. In regards to the Grimm. It wouldn't be a spoiler to tell you there are other monstrous Grimm out there in future episodes. But just remember as you saw from that jellyfish looking one at the end. They don't have to gigantic to be terrifying 🙃

Faroth

This episode has a fun story. The slap blake gave to sun wasnt scripted to be like that, it was supposed to be that she slap it but it was meant as a friendly slap, comedic one, like in a shoulder as a friend, like a push like "hey, dude, wtf are you doing here?!" animators misunderstood and blake gave him a powerful blackout slap like if she was angry for him being there, which wasnt the idea,because shows as if she wanted to hurt sun, but it wasnt supposed to look like that

BGTitan

Yeah, this chapter is the biggest offender when it comes to floaty fight scenes. Don't get me wrong, I understand they were still getting used to Maya and how to even do fights on that software, but it is a little distracting for me. The Grimm is called a Sea Feilong if I'm remembering correctly, and it is definitely one of the more unique Grimm. I also enjoy that the crew got to help finish it off. Ponytail Yang!!! I appreciate Tai's gesture here but I feel that is something you should at least discuss with a person. Regardless, it is painful seeing my girl going through it like this.

39

“They’re playing chess and I’m playing uno” lol

NatMcK7

Oh just wait Morgan just you wait. It's only gonna get better and better! People don't like this volume (and volume 5 by proxy) because it's so 'slow paced' and boring but I actually really enjoy this volume myself, there are some banger episodes coming up in this volume as well as volume 5. Point is don't let anyone influence your opinion, experience these volumes for yourself

Faroth

I love Barbara (Yang VA) and her puns, she is something like a Pun master, i heard her in the D&D campaigns of Tales of the stinky Dragon and her puns are hilarious most of the time and her voices are cute and adorable, like Ellga the child vampire barbarian

Phoenix_mercury

Not just following her, stalking an abuse victim to a location that can't be escaped from whilst deliberately concealing identity... For all she knew it was Adam and he'd come to end her whilst she was trapped on the boat

Atticus Yaps

The reason Cinder turned away at first to answer Creepy Queen was to call Emerald over so Em could speak out loud while Cinder whispered as Cinder's voice is FUBAR. But Creepy Queen wanted to hear Cinder say it herself, and Cinder can barely talk right now.

Phoenix_mercury

Tbh, I prefer this version... The "friendly" version wouldn't have fit at all with what sun had done... He wasn't "just" following her onto the boat, he was stalking an abuse victim to a location that can't be escaped from whilst deliberately concealing identity and assuming he knew where she was going and why, without any evidence... For all she knew it was Adam and he'd come to end her whilst she was trapped on the boat

CrowOfAFeather

As much as Blake could indeed use a friend, I don't like that Sun's literal stalking is brushed off too easily. Blake was right to slap him in my opinion; no sane person appreciates someone following them, and Sun not answering Blake's question at first to just mention her new outfit irks me. The Grimm designs are so cool, but agreed, the Seer is creepy!

Jyoster

So, it turns out there was a bit of a hiccup between the writers and animators during the production of Volume 4. That slap Blake gave to Sun towards the end of the fight, it was not meant to happen for what the writers planned. It seems a game of telephone between both teams lead to the animators adding the slap due to a misunderstanding, and by the time it was noticed, it was towards the end of production. Needless to say, it did stir a bit of controversy within the FNDM. But a headcannon some people have of it is that Blake learned this gesture from Adam.

RetroBeastto

Iron Wood is a good man he’s just very headstrong when you first meet him which understandable makes him unlikable.

Xýliandra

8:40 "Who tf is that? WHAT TF IS THAT?!" Who = Sun. What = Grimm 12:48 You weren't alone in that feeling, Morgan. I felt shitty for not giving Ironwood the benefit of the doubt. I "blame" the way he was written. The moment I first saw him I was like "I don't know if I'm gonna like you or hate you." Now, after watching all there is of RWBY, I have an answer. Not gonna say it now, but I'll let you know, when you reach a certain point in one of the upcoming volumes. 16:47 Yes, it sucks. But I'm ngl, I really like what the writers did with this volume. Not rushing Yangs recovery, physical and mental. It sucks what happened to her, but the way they've written is, is so beautiful. Healing/getting over something as horrifying as that, takes time. It's not just *snaps fingers* then you're okay. It takes time, and I'm here for this! I don't like the angst, but in the long run, I appreciate it!! 30:55 Ngl, given the fact that Sun had followed and stalked Blake, who is an abuse victim, and not tell her he was there... he deserved that slap. This is my opinion on the matter. Whatever you think of it Morgan, is your opinion and I respect it! 32:53 "You really think I could get Neptune on the ocean?" 🤣🤣🤣. Ngl, that was a great line🤣 37:27 "Guys, they're playing fucking chess and I'm playing fucking uno." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. That's was actually pretty funny 37:54 Yeah, the Seer is fucking creepy as shit bro!! I don't like it! All the other Grimm we've seen up till this point, much less scary!! The Seer is small but it's amongst the top 3 creepiest in my opinion!! You haven't met the other two, but I'll tell you once we get there, cause Holy Shit!! Last edit: What an episode and reaction! I really enjoyed this. Yes, the trauma, never really goes away. It's gonna be there like a scar. It'll heal, but not all the way. Lady/Queen Grimm wonders what Ozpin's plan is, but it is a mystery. Blake going home, was a shock to me, but at the same time, it makes sense. She wants space but she also wants to reconnect with her family. And Yang, ah, poor Yang😭. Adam really did a number on her, and I'm so furious at him!! Yeah, RJNR (Ranger I think) didn't show up in this one. Same with Weiss. It's because team RWBY is split up, so the show can't exactly fit all of them into all the episodes. Ep1, Ruby and Jaune's team. Ep2, pure Weiss focus. Ep3, Blake and a little sprinkle of Yang. This is how this volume is gonna go, and into the next one. Can't say more, cause spoilers. Anyways, I've yapped long enough. I hope you're having a wonderful day and I'll see you in your next reaction Morgan. Peace✌🏼

Ryan

"Just the grief and the angst and the all around fucking sad times!" That's... literally the entire show after volume three. Well, except for the beach episode...

Flufux

If you thought the noises the Grimm jellyfish/balloon thing made were disturbing, you should see Mosco's reaction to it.

Gihellcy

Oh Tai is a very good dad, not so present during Ruby's & Yang's childhood because of work, but always with his princesses when he had the time (and while Qrow trained Ruby, it was Tai who trained Yang) ^^

Zirkumflex

Therapy? In a show? For characters who would very much need it? That would take divine intervention, I would guess. And regarding Grimm: The only limit in what form the can be, is the imagination of your nightmares.

TheCasualNerd

Sun really not thinking this through, stalking an abuse victim who he knows is likely to have enemies after her... and going around in a black cloak observing her from the shadows. Reallllly not the best thought out plan for avoiding getting slapped. But that's our Sun for ya, pure of heart and dumb of ass right down to the core.

Faroth

Yeah, for that point, but people also related this as if she went directly for violence in a circle of abuse with adam, which was sad because it shows as if she becomed those kind of people that response violence with violence againts her friends

Faroth

One thing they did with this new model of Blake: the ears have waaaaayyy more expressions

Faroth

Ironwood is a general, he respect good soldiers, he knew that Yang fighting after what happened to her means she was a "good soldier" that 'would be thrown to waste' unless "he gave her a hand" :v (Barbara made this joke on a con)

Faroth

According with the maps, Menagerie(country of fauns) is like australia, and since she is going there, is a "Journey to the East", so they added a estern dragon and Sun Wukong... like the tale...

Alexis Cardillo

While it hurts to see everyone, well, hurting, what I love about this volume and how the writers handle the aftermath of a huge world changing tragedy. Most times in stories we see our main characters be instantly fine or right back into action, not here we”re seeing effects it has had on everyone and it”s slow, everyone’s processing in their own way and taking time to do so. Even though Ruby is doing what just said seemingly jumping right back into to it took a change of season before she set out and you can see signs that she”s dealing with what happened too. On a lighter note I think the fandom also agrees that Blake’s mistral outfit is everyone”s favorite

Phoenix_mercury

Fr! Like, stalking an abuse victim yeesh... For all Blake knew it was Adam and he'd stalked her to someone she couldn't escape to end her

Phoenix_mercury

And having shut down(per Yang's words) having Yang raise rubes, but otherwise yeah

Dafydd Mac an Leigh

It's not that you should *skip* the intro from here on out, it's that you should learn the words and *sing along* :-D

Phoenix_mercury

Exactly! The dumbass stalked an abuse victim onto somewhere that she couldn't escape whilst deliberately concealing his identity... What was he gonna do? Follow her all the way home(without realising considering he thought she was going after the WF)whilst still hiding? I love the guy but, he fked up🤷 he was given an opportunity to come clean of his volition when she clearly noticed him but instead chose to skulk away and had to be forced to reveal himself

Dafydd Mac an Leigh

Yeah, it can be frustrating the way he approaches everything like a military situation, but in this case that was just what was needed.

Phoenix_mercury

Tf? People are allowed to use violence without it being "it's because of X"🤦 if she'd "playfully/lightly" pushed him then imo she'd be condoning what he did, which isn't ok, she was rightfully pissed off and showed him that, she didn't need to yell or scream or cry ect, and considering they have aura? Imma say that a slap isn't exactly concerning injury wise

Dafydd Mac an Leigh

Also, there's a joke among the CRWBY that the perfect encapsulation of the Sun/Blake dynamic would be Sun using one of his light clones to hug Blake and Blake using one of her shadow clones to avoid it

Willow 404

SOOOOO which demon do I have to sell my soul to for you to react to Project Hail Mary...?? 👉👈

David Johnson

"Yeah, she definitely has PTSD" and so does Blake, in her own way.

Verdigree

I would say the intros are important and foreshadowing is important, you can analyze the intro as much or as little as you want, either way, it's all stuff the creators want fans to see and perhaps make guesses about the season

Verdigree

At Beacon, we do see one of his arms and I think most of his torso is cybernetic

Jonathan Smith

And his leg. Honestly, I think it's his entire right side.

Chloe

Yang looking at those books thinking of Blake that poor thing

Vaerin

Oh god you just made me realize they both have blond himbos that are just there for them.

Mare

It's just like Phoenix said, Yang pointed out specifically to Blake, in Volume 2 Ep6 "Burning the Candle" That Taiyang had shutdown (emotionally/mentally) after Summer's disappearance. So Yang had to take up the surrogate "mom" role for Ruby's sake and she became her emotional backbone the way mothers typically are. (This is what Burnie Burns, Voice actor for Taiyang and Co-founder for Rooster Teeth, had to say about Tai's mental state/emotions: "He doesn't spend a lot of time talking about his emotions, but he's been through a lot. I think about men who went to war and experienced horrible things, but when they came back to support their families, they never spoke a word about it. They took it to their grave." He does the best he can, when he's mentally aware but emotionally it hasn't exactly caught up to him. And as you can see in this episode Morgan is reacting to, Taiyang is trying to make up for lost time with Yang, but notice how he never asks how she feels? He just assumes. He still compartmentalizes and he basically influenced his own daughters to act that way too. At least at this point of the series. The plus side to Ruby and Yang being main protagonists is they get to experience character development.

Mare

I completely agree with everything here!

Mare

I echo this sentiment so much! I get irked by how tone deaf he is and his inability to read the room. Like he's considered an adult and can be tried as one (18 by this point) that has the mind of a 10 year old. He's just creepy sometimes. And back in Volume 2, he peeped through a window while Team RWBY was getting ready. Like who the fuck does that. And people will defend that to the death and justify THAT behavior. To be fair CRWBY (or at least Miles and Kerry) were a bit Tone Deaf themselves so some choices were questionable but on Sun, all I can do is sigh...it's like he has NO social etiquette at all. he kind of reminds me of some invasive netizens. I'm glad they hired a woman to be part of the writing team (Kirsie) for later volumes.

Mare

Thank you! Yes, Tai has to STOP making assumptions. He needs to actually talk to Yang and LISTEN to her grievances and learn about her trauma. He didn't even stick around when Yang was having a PTSD episode.

Mare

Ironically both Himbos can't read the room. But I guess that's what makes them himbos

LikeCat

Thats why they release the intros before the Volume... It can have the other effect of people seeing them early (Vol 7.), but for Vol 8 and especially 9 (the two that I personally was there) it worked SO WELL

SauceyRed

33:29 I... never realized that's what he was referencing... lmao

Suplee215

The question here is how valid is Sun's concern? I dont think its crazy to think Blake is in a bad mental state and may do something harmful. I dont think this situation is a simple answer. If Sun does reveal himself she can just run away again to be alone at a time when she shouldnt be. Maybe he could have revealed himself on the boat earlier during a non hostile situation but doesnt change anything. Blake certainly has reason to be mad too.

Phoenix_mercury

Yeah, Yang was parentified 🤷 as someone who also was, it sucks and does take a toll on your MH

Suplee215

I take him as a good dad dealing with life and trauma. He did shut down but we don't know for how long and qrow was around somewhat to help. Given what the shows give us, I am guessing he shut down majorly for a year or two and slowly came back. And that qrow became a teacher at signal to help with the girls.

August Perrin

as a postal worker, i was annoyed that Yang didn't put the flag down after getting the mail

Hi-Viz

I think this one actually was meant to happen SPOILERS FOR LATER IN V4 It was the later ones in the volume that were the miscommunication, where she was supposed to hit him on the shoulder, rather than slap him multiple times (he deserved them all imo but that's neither here nor there)