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Map of Ethnicity of Ruling Aristocracy in 1240. (Patreon)

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2020-06-17 12:31:58
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Anonymous

Looking at Iberia I think that you have made the Reconquista a bit too advanced for 1240. I don't think the Sueve had been ruling for many centuries in Portugal/Galicia and calling the aristocracy of the kingdoms that united top form Spain "Gothic" seems like a big stretch. I wonder if "Iberian" might have been better for the parts of Iberia under Christian rule.

Anonymous

Again, I don't know about Aquitaine and the rest of Southwest France was ruled by Goths in 1240. For areas under English control, "Danish" seems more appropriate and "Frankish" for those under French control.

whatifalthist

It depends on how far back you want to measure things. If you want to be really reductionist we're all Africans (or Asians, but that's besides the point). The Goths were given around a 40 percent chunk of the land after the Fall of Rome by the Roman authorities in Aquitaine and intermarried with the Roman aristocracy. The battle of Las Navas de Tolosa in 1241 was the big battle that broke of the back of the Andalusians and basically drove the Muslims back to Granada. The Spaniards dispossessed the native Muslim nobility.

whatifalthist

Neither the English nor the Capetians really dispossessed the native nobility, mostly working with them. One could make a good argument that after the Albigensian Crusade, the South French nobility were decimated but I'm not sure if they were replaced with North French nobility.