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Nothing gruesome today though. I've captured some of the moments that my character (who was masochistic in this rp) felt aroused, and before shit got too much for him to handle. 

The short story i wrote with Old_Shoyo involves a guy who for the first time visits his crush in his home. They have a very toxic relationship, and it's not a story that ends well. We explored some humiliation, sadism and gore as the thriller story progresses. The thin line between devotion and sacrifice is crossed while the mind games and manipulation escalate to the point of no return. 

What is your stance on thriller and horror stories that explore psychological problems of the characters? Some people came to me saying that depicting unhealthy relationships romanticizes them. 

My stance on it is a bit different. I see it as a thriller story. Fascinatd by the human psyche, I think that even a twisted, sick mind can rationalize it's doing and even wove in a romantic undertone into it. It seems like this is what is actually scary about it. To see a monster emerging from an usual, common things we all experiance everyday like for example love.Of course i can see how morally debatable it is to create or consume such thriller stories.I got to hear many strong opinions surrounding this topic. Some people believe that consuming this kind of contect is making people try to reenact it (just like the self fueling school shootings), other do research and discover that all it can do is to desensitize us to a simial contect in the future. In my opinion it both can be good and bad depending on your views about what is good and what is bad.Is soft and sensitive better hard and salted?We will get a different answer from a biologist, psychologist and a philosopher. What is your opinion about it?

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Jess

WORD VOMIT WARNING: I studied psychology at length in college (it was my major) and I've been roleplaying for over a decade, so I've encountered my fair share of stories that depict abusive themes, both physical and psychological (and been in one or two myself). I think the main issue here is that it is very difficult to depict the entirety of an abusive relationship in just one sketch, or one excerpt - or even in a fully-written, composed, or directed piece of fiction. It is difficult because we can only capture a glimpse of what a character is feeling at any one time, and often it involves the peak of an emotion - be it arousal, pain, betrayal, or a mix of them all. We also want to write whole and satisfying story-arcs, with a moral and a nice resolution, but that doesn't happen with relationships like these. However, silencing these stories - even fictional - is a disservice as well, I think. I think it is important to portray these works but approach them responsibly - yes, show how absolutely blinding a violent relationship can be; how completely enthralled you can become, how in love you are, how you literally cannot see the relationship is violent because your brain does EVERYTHING in its power to deny it, to paint false scenes. In that way, I think stories like Killing Stalking (which I severely dislike, mind you) succeed - however, where it, and most other works of fiction fail, is responsibly showing the fallout of these kind of relationships, either because authors inevitably end up giving their abused char's some degree of Stockholm syndrome and submerging their arc entirely, or because they strive to humanize the abusive char in order to give us a more or less "well-rounded", "satisfying" ending. That shit doesn't work. Show the fallout. Show the pain. Show that this shit doesn't work, even when it feels like it might. You show the fluffy scenes that the abused char's brain MAKES UP, yes - and then destroy them all, because that's the reality. It's unsatisfying - it's meant to be. Your viewers won't be happy. That's meant to be as well, but if you're going to try writing a story like that, that's the cross you've got to bear. MY TWO CENTS, rant #over.

Jess

Side-note, that's... that's not... P-Pat, is it?

GoldenTar

No, it's not Pat! And yes, i totally agree with portraying all the ugly stuff surrounding stories like that, even though i'm sure that there is a faint possibility for the stories to take a turn in the "romantic/more liked by the viewers" way (even though it's very unlikely). It the end it's just a fiction. Though! It must be frustrating to read supposedly psychological stories/thrillers as a psychologist knowing their shit~! It's like reading a novel made by an illiterate teen XD on the other hand they are not banned from trying, and probably will cover their ears from the critique. Expecting people to have an emotional inteligence, especially in the topic of their own creation, is in my opinion a bit futile. I just hope that people will try to reasearch stuff for the sake of credibility of the story (if this is what they're aiming for - making a fascinating creation that will inspire/teach and not only entertain). Could you plwase tell me what made you dislike Killing Stalking? What are the things that were sticking out like a sore thumb for you as a psychology educated person? It's really fascinating for me to know, since hobbistically i try to expand my knowledge around those topics (psychology, sociology and biology surrounding those topics)

Yuki Kamisama

I think it is what it is and it’s us that makes whatever we want out of it. The bottom line is as with anything, the most glaring being sexual preference, it’s no ones business but our own. People are free to judge if they want to, but as long as they don’t try to force their will on others then there are no issues. What happens between two (or more) consenting adults is their own business and people who take it upon their selves to make it their business are the truly toxic ones.

GoldenTar

That's true, even though people seem to be very touched by fintion and stories. My natural response to the story i don't enjoy is to skip through it. Different strokes for different folks~

Jess

Wow... I think I just wrote a whole monster post and it didn't post :< Big sad.

treeonfyre

I think horror stories that explore sexual and psychological themes can be really intense. There are some amazing movies in this genre like Basic Instinct or Teeth. Whether the unhealthy relationship, whatever it may be, is romanticized, depends entirely on how it’s written. I’ve been reading and listening to a lot of stuff by Shawn Coyne lately to make my own writing better. So here’s a quote that says it better than I can… “The Horror Story is an allegory for the horrific world we presently or could soon inhabit. It serves as a prescriptive or cautionary tale about how to best metabolize our darkest fears and survive. The power gap between the monster and the victim is immense, and thus the victim who raises the courage to confront the force with all of their inner genius to their last breath, inspires us to do the same. To win is to survive.” So in your story, does the protagonist overcome his internal demons and survive the ordeal of the relationship? Thus giving others hope that they can do the same? Or is he consumed and destroyed by it, presenting a cautionary tale for those who fall too deep?

GoldenTar

Thanks for that quote! I think at this point of the story he struggles to fight it, but i don't know the outcome yet~