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“You got your Oscar, which was an unfortunate night for everyone…” - Steve on Will Smith

On this week’s episode, we’re kicking off a two-episode tribute to the legendary Gene Hackman with a convo about the better-than-you-remember surveillance thriller, Enemy of the State! First off, this ain’t no sequel to The Conversation, let’s get that straight! But you do have an amazingly cranky and paranoid Gene Hackman running around with a nearly never-better Will Smith as they dodge Jon Voight and his stable of late-90’s Gen-X character actors! Why was the great Jason Robards uncredited? Same question for Philip Baker Hall! Why couldn’t a rocket hit Jamie Kennedy and Seth Green’s surveillance van? And how incredible is that effect shot with Jason Lee and the firetruck? PLUS: Brill interrogates the Peanuts Gang!

Enemy of the State stars Will Smith, Jon Voight, Lisa Bonet, Regina King, Stuart Wilson, Barry Pepper, Ian Hart, Jake Busey, Scott Chan, Jason Lee, Gabriel Byrne, James Le Gros, Dan Butler, Jack Black, Jamie Kennedy, Bodhi Elfman, Anna Gunn, Lillo Brancato, John Capodice, Ivana Milicevic, Grant Heslov, Seth Green, Philip Baker Hall, Jason Robards, Tom Sizemore, and the late, forever great, Gene Hackman as Brill; directed by Tony Scott.

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Papa Taylor

I’ve watched this movie at least 36 times. I’ll never leave it after I find it on tv. It’s definitely a chair magnet

Chris

Watched this today in anticipation of the ep for the first time since the 90s and had an unexpectedly emotional reaction to Jason Lee's grungy neighbor misdirecting the NSA goons and giving him time to escape. Solidarity in the face of fascism, beautiful to see.

Matzar

Add it to the PBH filmography

Aaron Dowler

Prolonged toilet talk up top means this will be a very good episode

johnny stocker

Yeah, I think this is my favorite Will Smith movie. He and Hackman REALLY work well together here. Also really love the whole supporting cast. Voight as an evil asshole, Jason Lee as a dead meat hippie, Green, Kennedy, and Black as the fascist geek squad, Jake Busey and Scott Caan as the douchebag hit squad... it's all working for me.

jribs

This is an outrage! I watched the first 75 minutes of Enemy of the State for "free" on Bezos' bullshit Amazon outfit for the first time earlier this afternoon. After really enjoying the first half of this absolutely stacked cast make a TON of choices in a filled-out world that is literally a utopian joke in 2025. I digress. So I'm a bad employee, right? Well, today when I was working from home, I was not really working from home. Now I assume that DOGE has already flagged this comment to support the firing of numerous government employees for no reason other than to tank the economy and buy it all back up for pennies on the dollar at our expense because somehow $800 billion is not enough for these bastards. I digress. Anyways, I go to Bezos Prime Video and hit the "Continue" button. Only to be told, I now have to pay $3.50 or whatever to finish a movie I ALREADY STARTED THAT DAY. I assume this is because the month changed and now Enemy of the State is not included with the monthly offerings we must make to our bald overlord. Some of you might say, WHERE IS LUIGI?? I do not say that. LUIGI is behind bars. I say to you: WHERE IS WALUIGI!!!

Busiris

So glad you guys brought up the on-screen text debacle with the Amazon copy because I literally tried watching it on multiple devices to see if my app was just messed up! That's ridiculous stuff even for Amazon. But at least I got a good laugh when Larry King ends the interview mid-way through the movie and has it go to commercial and then Amazon started playing ads at that moment. The only time ever where the ad placement was perfect.

Frank Grimes

I always 😂 when Jake busey gets into it with the NSA guy about the satellites....this film was will Smith at his finest. My fave will role. Hackman absolutely kills it as brill....will: "you blew up a building..." hackman: "BECAUSE YOU MADE A PHONE CALL!"

Kureigu

The films on Disney plus here in uk so I thought I'd check if the text is there and it is. Also noticed for some reason on disney the film is 2hr 11 min and on amazon prime to rent/own it's only 2hr 7 min. Wonder what the difference is?

Rod

Every male over 35 should get a colonoscopy if you can! Colon cancer is on the rise in younger men!

Frank Grimes

I tried to tell my doc I wanted one but he's like not till you're 50 or 60

Rod

I’d try again. Insurance won’t cover it until you’re like 45 or something so it’ll be mostly out of pocket but the peace of mind is worth it! I’m going back every 5 or so years to be safe.

NFlux Forever

Any BBQ place where you aren't waiting for hours on a Saturday isn't worth your time.

Hobbes Roy

“I love when they finish…” cum/gunshot

Matt

"The Enema Industrial Complex" THIS is why I'm a patreon supporter

Steve Lyon

I’m glad Steve is imbedded with the Nazis.

MarkNM

Apparently the age recommendation is 45 now. Which I found out when I was 50 and went in.

MarkNM

Could it be 4 minutes of foreign dub credits? Not sure they have those for older movies though.

MarkNM

April Fools?

MarkNM

Man, Hollywood really knew how to just turn out star vehicles that people could actually care about back then, couldn't they? Now Netflix gets 3-4 famous names together, advertises the shitty result for a week, no one gives a shit, then they pretend it's profitable.

Kureigu

No idea watched the whole film on disney, never noticed any difference from the vhs I used to own (how I originally saw the movie) if prime adds it back on to included movies I'll have a watch and see .

Massey and Graham

Holy shit, THE Eric Szyszka I did foot stuff with at the Dusk til Dawn show? Sorry the BBQ let y’all down, I’ll avoid Cooper’s. RIP by the way 🪦

MarkNM

The Turbo Express was a great little system if you didn't mind going through 8 AA batteries in like 9 minutes.

I.C. Weiner

I'm so thankful you guys explained the no text thing. When I watched this I heard the typing sound, but nothing would come up, and then a subtitle would appear with location and time and I was so confused what the hell was happening

Jason

One the Hemsworth's is fighting a Gane of Thrones actor in Gun Man 2! Streaming now. And look forward to Diarrhea Santa and the Sexy Elf Man starring Jack Black and Ryan Reynolds in November!

MarkNM

Gal Gadot and Blake Lively are CIA agents who go undercover on a dating show to find the secret of BEEFCAKE ISLAND, with John Hamm, Channing Tatum, and Zac Efron

Jonnie Sea

Enemy of the State The Mask of Zorro Morbius “Name three trailers that played before every movie!”

duck of death

Just FYI, Stuart Wilson is also the doctor in Hot Fuzz who gets his toes blown off with a shotgun by Nick Frost. You're a doctor, deal with it. Yeahhh mutha fucker.

Aaron

Dots Pretzels is the answer.

Stewart Moncure

I ended up seeing Loose Cannons the week Hackman died, and…hoo boy. I don’t remember watching a duller comedy like that in a while.

Paul

RIP Val 😢 Hackman, now Kilmer.

Jason

Next February can be Kilmer movies. Do a true Val-entines Day celebration

Ay Ay Ron

This was one of those rare movies that filmed in the city proper. I grew up there and was in high school when it was made. Production shut down a huge section of Connecticut Avenue to film the chase and car accident scene. A few of my friends and I got to be extras. The famous bookstore that doubled for the lingerie shoppe was called Lamda Rising. Really cool spot.

Samuel McGuire

Eric - I too am getting into pretzels in my 40s. Would love to have you on my pretzel podcast, “Knot Talk” anytime.

Knut Farstad

Dude, that Richard Kind imitation is just amazing!

Eren Keskin

But did Will Smith thank Jon Voight even once?

John Edwards

I appreciate the moment of silence post-signoff. Respectful way to acknowledge the passing of one of the greats.

Moe Tilden

Honest question: can we get an emergency episode on Tombstone to showcase Val's greatest performance ever? Also, it's one of the most stacked casts and it's a damn good time.

D Arthur

Will Smith is going down as one of the 🐐 can’t wait for the Willaissance

D Arthur

I’d like to recommend honey wheat pretzels for a delightful munchies experience 🙂‍↕️

allegedlycool

Thank you guys for helping to normalize conversations about digestive health.

Craig

My LRM WLM request!

Barista Bran

Lately watching a movie on Amazon feels equivalent to watching a boot leg copy your cousin let you borrow.

Brandon

Speaking of movies everyone is in, anyone seen this School for Scoundrels? Fucking garbagio flick, but dude. The faces.... You got Michael Clark Duncan, Sheldon Cooper, Bad Santa, Napolean Dynamite, the babysitter from Jerry Maguire, and assfuckloads of recognizable sag cards. its crazy. Stay Tuned this motherfucker, for real.

Brandon

ripd that legend.

Brandon

They have these gluten-free peanut butter filled pretzels at Sprouts.... Fuck bro.

Brandon

I really loved ur episode. Finally, a stand in for the audience... Frank was just an honest guy, trying to make an honest living. He wasn't ready for Homer. RIPD, Frank. Soar with the Doves. Springfield wasn't ready for you.

Brandon

Well, you live up there. Shake your fist!

Matt

Big fan of the Synder's jalapeno pretzel pieces. Can't keep them at home or I'll house the whole bag in one sitting. The Buffalo Wing ones are also quite tasty.

Adam Ray

Listen .... I'm not at all proud of this..... It's become more of a curse than a helpful "skill"..... Grant Hezlov is mauled by one of the Uber violent gorillas off screen. Runs towards the group screaming help me(the part in the trailer), and then one of the gorillas runs in behind him and throws the severed head of someone else. Yeah I know this is in no way useful or even wanted. But if remembering shit I've seen in movies I've seen a few times like I watched it yesterday is my only talent then I'm just going to do it. Fantastic show gang.

MarkNM

It is a useful talent. And frankly, Grant Heslov's severed head would be something quite memorable.

Dawn Elicia

I had a game gear. I grew up on Sega. I did not get a Nintendo until I got the WiI playing Animal Crossing

We Hate Movies

I couldn't remember clearly either way and I just re-watched the damn thing like a month ago. Thanks for clarifying! - Andrew

Smaug

I thought they were talking about the train movie Unstoppable at the end of the ep. Train goin' that fast...vaporize anything in its path