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Episode #803: Rambo: First Blood Part II (Patreon)

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2025-06-03 04:00:06
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2025-08-21 18:45:57
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“He’s the walking dead!” - Eric on contemporary Sly’s look

On this week’s episode, the Summer Blockbuster Extravaganza launches into month two by celebrating the Totally Cool Awesome 80s! First up, we’re talking about the stupidly-titled Rambo: First Blood Part II! How funny is it that this movie pulls a complete 180 on the philosophy of the first film? How great is Sly’s hair in this one? Couldn’t they have had a few more action scenes with Martin Kove? How wild is it that Predator completely ripped off the Rambo covered in mud bit? And why didn’t Murdock get a rockin’ death in this? PLUS: Fellow veterans, Bebop and Rocksteady meet John Rambo!

Rambo: First Blood Part II stars Sylvester Stallone, Richard Crenna, Charles Napier, Steven Berkoff, Julia Nickson, George Cheung, and Martin Kove as Ericson; directed by George P. Cosmatos.

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Taco6N 13

I watched Punisher: Warzone on PlutoTV when they did it on the show a while back and had the same experience Steve had with the fade-to-black in this movie. I was confounded you guys weren't making fun of the editing up and down in that movie and only just had the same realization Steve did.

Jason Martin

Audio is messed up on this. Getting background noise of conversation before or after it's in the main audio.

Brandon Ford

Anybody else getting a weird echo starting at 21:42-39:00? First I thought it was my headphones but then I can hear it on every app.

Jan

Robert Patrick does T-1000 in Waynes World & the Last Action Hero.

Ryan Horn

Martin sheen in Hot Shots Part Deux and Bruce Willis in Loaded Weapon. But all of those are just cameos.

Console Canon

This is cacophonous to listen to.

Geoff Gershon

About the self-parody stuff.....you could make a strong case that Cary Elwes in Hot Shots Uno is pretty much parodying his Russ Wheeler antagonist from Days of Thunder just the year before - they're pretty much the same performance. :) Oh and SHATNER is definitely parodying his Captain Kirk persona in Airplane II....he's hysterical in that movie. 😆

Geoff Gershon

Now you've got me remembering all of these mediocre comedies from the '80's.....Roger Moore is BLATANTLY parodying his Bond character (to the point where it apparently really pissed off EON) in the first Cannonball Run movie. 😉 Damn yet ANOTHER one: Bruce Willis' cameo in Loaded Weapon One parodies John McClane. 😉

Jan

According to imdb rambo 1 takes place in 1981 According to Rambo 2, Rambo is born 1947, making him 34 y old in 1981 so he’s 38 in rambo 2? Did Rambo return from Vietnam in 1981? Or earlier? How old is Rambo supposed to be? And Trautman?? I’m saying these movies don’t make sense

profondo robbo

John Hurt in Spaceballs going "Oh no, not again!"

Luke Gordnier

Marlon Brando kinda parodied the godfather in the freshman.

Cody Downs

Hey, Guys! Allegedly on TOMBSTONE, Kurt Russell replaced George P. Cosmatos, who replaced writer Kevin Jarre -- who was making his directorial debut. Disney was so unhappy with both Cosmatos' & Jarre's footage -- the cast was happy with Russell stepping in and he happily agreed to go uncredited to not cause a scene with the DGA. The rest is history. For Andrew, you got to me & I caved: weeks after seeing THE ACCOUNTANT 2 and after the last WHM ON-SCREEN LIVE, I cheerfully broke down & got the Airstream trailer popcorn bucket. It was the very last one at my neighborhood AMC. Thanks for tilting me into the purchase 😎 Take care, guys!

Brendan Klein

Didn’t realize you guys are already in the UK recording this in a cave.

Busiris

I actually do have an example of an actor playing a parody of a character they previously played. Ron Lester played Billy Bob in (previous episode) Varsity Blues. He played a version of the same character in Not Another Teen Movie, but the name was changed to Reggie Ray. Yes, I own that movie on standard def DEE VEE DEE.

Calvin Lindfors

I literally can't listen to this with the echo effect. Can someone let me know if a fixed version gets uploaded?

Dylan

Audio on this is definitely wonky for a good 20 minutes. Danny Trejo cameoed as Machete in Spy Kids nearly a decade before the film of the same name was released

Craig

The Tombstone episode of the What Went Wrong podcast is an eye-opener. The film turned out amazing considering.

Cody Downs

Yes, Craig: that was a exceedingly great ep of that podcast. TOMBSTONE is one of the rarities that could technically be considered a "trainwreck production" that miraculously went on to defy the odds of past such type-produced films and flourished as the years passed on. Who knew, as everyone at the time (I remember) believed Costner/Lawrence Kasdan WYATT EARP would be the film and the opposite turned out

Craig

George Lazenby did this too as “JB” in The Return of the Man From U.N.C.L.E. TV movie.

Emil Svensson

Alarum is the middle English word that later became alarm, and its root is thought to be the Italian expression "all'arme" meaning "to arms", i.e., a call to arms. So it sort of makes sense as a title for the movie.

Dylan

The audio is clear for most of it. Around 40 minutes it fixes itself, but I get it

MVD

Oh good I thought it was just me. The audio goes wonky

Eren Keskin

Meanwhile, in 1985, Arnold was busy playing John Matrix and you know he was smoking the world's biggest cigar and laughing his Alpine tits off at Stallone

We Hate Movies

UPDATE: The new file is uploaded and should be good to go. If you already had the original file downloaded, please delete it off your device. Not sure how long it will take places like Apple Podcasts or Pocket Casts to update their feeds, but it's right now available on the Patreon platform and Patreon app for listening. Again, sorry for the flub! - Andrew ORIGINAL MESSAGE: We apologize for the error in the edit and are working on a fix NOW. Thank you for your patience and bringing this to our attention. - Eric

Patrick caddy

Thank God I thought my earbuds were fucked

We Hate Movies

Not at all! What happened was, when I removed the ad from the edit, and then subsequently went to bump up the rest of the audio to fill the gap left by the removed commercial, a small portion of Steve's track was bumped out of sync. Working on the export now, so it shouldn't be too much longer! - Andrew

Adam

Way too high for that audio. Lol.

WarOfTheBees

Bill Pullman played Henry Hale on both The Village and Scary Movie 4

Gino Volpe

Y'all are the bomb diggity!

James C Harris

I really want Motorcycle Girl From Village to be a thing! If they made 3 Sister Streetfighter movies we can get 1 Motorcycle Girl!

johnny stocker

Also in that same movie Paul Gleason plays the principal from 'Breakfast Club' again. I'm sure there are more examples during the 'Spoof Wars' of the late 90s and early 2000s, but I kinda checked out on it after NATM.

MarkNM

Dom Deluise in Rambo would have been tremendous, especially the triumphant DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!!! (Also, Stallone DIRECTED Staying Alive. Hoooo-wee.)

Kevin Lynch

William Shatner parodies Capt. Kirk in Airplane 2

Kevin Lynch

Peacock premium does the whole pause for commercial break as well. I noticed it when watching one of WHM Harry Potter commentaries

MarkNM

Stallone himself parodies his Rocky Balboa character in the movie "Rocky V".

RJ Cunningham

Am I the only one that didn’t find the echo that bad?

Brian Manley

What causes the echo to happen before someone speaks? I can hear what's being said faintly before it comes through on the more audible audio.

Tala Hobballah

Jon Voight has been the most outspoken out of Stallone and Gibson on his support for Trump. For years!

Ryan Dull

Listening in the car this morning , I found it was a minor annoyance at best.

Matthew Lloyd

Lets not forget the Simpsons episode where the real Seymore Skinner was a POW then sent to a Chinese sweatshop.

DMAC

Remember only you can vote with your "hate heart" and not your "love heart"

Tala Hobballah

Stallone on The Specialist was sexualized more than Sharon Stone and I still have so many questions.

Busiris

OH RIGHT How could I forget Paul Gleason. But then again, I think they're a lot more of those kind of cameos than I realize.

Richard Buttry

Roger Moore in Cannonball Run doing Bond and Robert Patrick in Wayne’s World doing the T1000.

Shawn Marek

I was hearing it too. Maybe something with the overlapping tracks

Rose Esposito

👏 to Steve for the "IT HASN'T BEEN RECOVERED YET?!?!?!" drop

Matthew Mariner

am I nuts? It feels like these and echo in this episode. At first I thought I was just TOO high. But I turned it off, didn't hear the echo, restarted it, and boom, echo.

Matthew Mariner

and he thought Springfield was kinda better than the sweat shop

We Hate Movies

Delete and re-download the episode. We fixed that issue this morning. Apologies for the inconvenience and mess up!

We Hate Movies

We fixed this issue at 7 am EST. Please delete and re-download. Apologies.

Matthew Mariner

no worries -- I seriously just thought I was having an edible-induced moment. Will do -- and great episode! Where WAS he getting all that conditioner?!

Gino Volpe

Also wanted to share I worked on Nonnas! The cast is cursed (Drea de Matteo eep) , making you forget about Vince Vaughn's less than stellar "Italian American accent". The restaurant at the focus of the film is run by a family friend and can confirm, the food is worth the long commute. Slight film but well worth the Nonnas watch party.

Felipe Sobreiro

Answer for Steve! Maybe someone else mentioned him in the thread but John Hurt plays (basically) Kane in SPACEBALLS (it's just a little short scene tho)

Mark D Myers

It's funny you mentioned bebop and rock steady sense there was a villain in tmnt 2012 called "the hammer" who was a mob enforcer in a mech suit who's voice actor did a sly impression.

profondo robbo

Fun fact: Rambo First Blood Part II cinematographer Jack Cardiff directed a film called The Girl on a Motorcycle.

profondo robbo

What's really wild to me is that this has the same cinematographer as The Red Shoes, Black Narcissus, and A Matter of Life and Death.

Matthew Lloyd

Apart from the echo everyone seems out of sync, lots of dead silence and talk8ng iver each other.

Ray

Only movie I've ever watched while listening to this podcast for the last 7 years that was so void of any substance that I decided to listen to the podcast while I was watching it. Definitely improved the experience.

We Hate Movies

The tracks were in the wrong order. This issue has been fixed, please delete and redownload.

Matthew Lloyd

Is this Vaughn trying to once again polish his rep?

Dennis Stack

My God, please clip Steve signing some Crucial Taunt as Sly 😂🤣😂

Jaime Lee Ezell

I also have AMC+ for my Mad Men rewatch! I have the dvd set too but sometimes I want to watch it on my phone, the epitome of laziness!

Ed Harris

Fantastic as always. I kinda prefer the third movie simply because it has the decency to be utterly stupid as hell AND gives some decent action throughout before the third act. Also really want you guys to cover Staying Alive. Its one of my favorite bad movies. Just a perfect storm of WTF.

jribs

As a man with an O at the end of his last name (Sicilian, not Cherokee), the pronunciation in that movie better be Non-nas, not No-nas.

We Hate Movies

Ya know I thought about that yesterday! Totally correct - Steve

RonnieSoak

Regarding Andrew's dig at the kill count: I always was under the impression that Chelsea Rebecca was a real human woman. Jury might still be out on James being a grown adult. Speaking of which, are we finally getting into Tha Hood in October with Dead Meat?

Z

Cobra >>>> First Blood: Part II

profondo robbo

Horror kill counts might be more acceptable since they tend to be smaller and easier to count. Trying to do an action movie like this where you'd have to account for non-stop gunfire and explosions is where it gets ridiculous.

Graeme Hill

R Lee Ermey? Not sure if it counts if he is just playing various people called "Sarge" rather than a named dude.

Smaug

"It's the same actor, I don't know if it's supposed to be the same person"

Isaac Coleman

I've said this before but you guys are on a truly great run of episodes atm. I had no particular interest in this movie as an episode but was dying laughing throughout. "He looks like ze sleepy tea bear!"

Eric Gerbeck

I am surprised the Rambo NES game wasn't mentioned at all here. It's a fever dream retelling of this movie where Rambo is stabbing bats and stuff like Zelda II. Not like the awesome Sega Master System Rambo where we are shooting people and helicopters with flame arrows. Now THAT is a game to set your watch to.

Todd B

I know we still have some eps to go before the break, but I'm saying it now - The Roger Corman/Russ Meyer 'Cycle Whore Girl' extended riff may be a season best in terms of particular jokes

Todd B

Specifically, a part of me has always wondered if they intended his character in The Frighteners to be the departed Gunnery Sgt. Hartman

Clint Rivas

Doctor Strange 2 > most MCU

Frank Grimes

They let Sam Raimi cook and I was 100% there for it. Yes they did Wanda dirty but I had a very good time with it.

Kemper

Another one of the movies about rescuing MIA/POWs from Vietnam that is oddly forgotten is Uncommon Valor starring Gene Hackman, Patrick Swayze, Robert Stack, Fred Ward, and Tex Cobb. It's also nuts but would make an awesome episode. (Subtle hint.)

Vincent Mollica

Late but: Marlon Brando in the freshman is a parodying themself example.

Jan

Rambo: old blood

Tanner

Also the fact that it is their job and they've made a company out of it. They're not just doing it for the imdb trivia.