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EP 2: Exposing the Counter-Strike Gambling Industry - EARLY ACCESS! (Patreon)

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2024-12-18 22:41:49
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This video is the heart of the gambling story, the nuts and bolts of how CS2 offshore gambling works, why it's hard to stop, and why casinos, influencers, and esports teams are in a race-to-the-bottom of this dirty industry.

At the heart of this, everyone KNOWS intuitively there is a large underage problem, and gambling addiction is rampant, but no one has actually fixed it.

In this episode we take a close look at all the stakeholders, what their reasonings are, and try to understand how we can fix this broken system.

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MutinyDB

Could ruin valve after i get half life 3. cheers, thanks!

Shadoninja

Please tell me you interviewed Jeff. He is the absolute biggest influencer in CS2 that never sold his soul

Smiglo

Great quality material, thank you, Coffee. None of the influencers ever mention that they're playing on rigged chances to make winning seem easier than it really is. Total con artists. 👎

Timo

fire

Brit

You know what’s interesting? Now that physical professional sports in most countries are now beinh supported by gambling companies and websites the addiction levels is going to get worse and worse. There isn’t going to be any place where someone could ignore it. This is so insidious.

totorgo

That guy was definitely not an American.

Jumure

This was good. Thanks for making it. And good job looking at the whole ecosystem. The solution based framing feels novel in this YouTube space.

FurBz GriNd

Bro this shit is your magnum opus, absolute fire, take my money

Lebon14

25:34 typo: should be "its", not "it's".

Denis Mercure

Just saying phatphuck name Gabe Newell does even more money

Jackalgirl

"I feel bad" but the money feels too good enough to stop hurting people, so maybe it doesn't really actually feel so bad.

Cole Rozen

Is there gonna be a part 3?

Zara

This was definitely top 3 pieces I’ve seen out of your catalogue, well done and do stay safe.

Vic Jang

Thanks Coffee this series is insanely good! Can't wait for you to expose the gambling problem in gaming!

Thomas Robinson

Juicy is feckless, I hope he loses fans over this

Aron

So happy to be apart of the Patreon now 🙌 I'm really excited to see how this investigation turns out coffee. Very impressive so far

Christoffer Lantz

Subscribed for this :) Amazing video. Also bought three shirts from you.

Shivani

I’m addicted to knowing when the next episode is coming out

Beau Morris

I started on counter strike based gambling websites at the age of 13. My two friends got me into it one day and they were 10 and 12. We ironicly played on Tmartns website which eventually got taken down because tmartn promoted and recorded videos on the gambling site and it was never revealed that it was his site. Rumors were his account would rig wins but the three of us ended up miraculously winning and by the end of it all we had won a few thousands in skins... luckily. Over the next 10 years on and off I must have lost 40 grand. There was also something more that csgo gambling had to offer than real casinos. at age 15 i had already knew multiple sites and how to play the most popular gamemodes. I never cared about turning 21 and playing in real casinos because csgo gambling was better. I could yap for hours about how it was a dark part of my life and how I changed my life habits and psyce. My parents never found out. Just recently in july i played and won 125k usd in btc and that was the first time i ever told them about the industry. currently i've profited 95k gambling on csgo but the tole on my mental health ... no $ amount could pay that back. Counter stike youtubers, influencers and advertisers. These groups with data on human patterns, they tapped into video games and vulnerable teens and youth. Its an invisable money collector with so many loop holes it becomes clear.

Deion Prince

This rabbit hole goes insanely deep

Kristof

Joined your community because of this piece—long time watcher. I'll be with you here from here on out. You shine an incredible light on the darkest corners found on the internet.

Jonathan

Damn he’s going after VALVE

Dylan Boczar

Damn shoutout to this Jeff guy for doing that initial investigation!

jub jub

Putting it on patreon early was smart coffee you got me

TheDarka

ABSOLUTE CINEMA!!!!! RELEASE PART 3 RIGHT NOW :DDD

Sam Larson

Cmon Juicy, just admit you are doing it for the money you fken loser, lmao

Luis Liz

Rip valve. Its an industry problem really

Johnathen Hammonds

I personally started gambling through CS when I was 11ish and can say through the age of 11-19 I lost easily around $75,000 and a good part of that is through csgoroll. With the csgoroll part being said, Juicy and Grim were key factors in me choosing to use the site and gamble. I would be willing to show my account on roll and what I’ve spent to help in any of this as I truly do hope the next person in my shoes stops. I am 22 now and haven’t gambled in quite some time. It’s not worth it and overall you will lose. I have shifted now to watching people like arrow and heyzues which while they still gamble using cases, they aren’t promoting a site that is inherently dangerous and triggered to use our little monkey brains to get more and more money. Rant over. Thank you Coffee for going into this and I wish you the best.

Blu3Diamond

Best episode of the year—bravo! This case is even more compelling than most crypto cases. Can't wait for part 3

Mesha

Can't wait for the next part

Wyatt Johnston

Yeah its not just csgo, the rust skin gambling sites are also very easy to use if not easier, since there is no trade lock on the skins.

Apoorv Singh

You brought up csgo gambling and I instantly bought your patreon. I don't gamble but i've spent 10-20 on cs just trying it out, stupid ass purchase, might as well pay for your effort. p.s. I opened a $1200 knife on my third case and got scammed cuz i didn't know anything about selling and all.

Keaton Pine

I’m currently $17,000 in debt to the websites you have mentioned. I started gambling at 14 via CSGO and have RARELY ever gambled elsewhere. As soon as I saw your first video bringing this topic to light I instantly subscribed to your patreon because my money is better spent here than there. Illegal counter strike gambling has ruined my life.

yuzu

i just had to buy patreon to see second ep, finally someone is covering actual problems in the scene, i am cs player since cs1.6 and i was so mad back in like 2012 when they added skins, skins by themselves were fine but i started to draw the line when they were thousands of dollars, i was like no way a pixel in a videogame costs like thousands of dollars, but i was like eh alr like its extremely rare skin and all and i guess 3K ain't that much (keep in mind this was back in 2017 and im talkin about D lore) but it snowballed so much its basically glorified casino at this point that also locks out normal people out of actually having good skins cuz they are all (good ones) thousands of dollars so that gamblers have something quasi rare to unbox on their gambling sites, so they locked normal players out of the good content so they can make gamblers that don't even play the game gamble more

Oboeist3

Absolutely wonderful reporting as always, Coffeezilla! I finally signed up for your patreon to get early access to this video, but I noticed something a bit odd. I’m hard of hearing so I turned on the closed captioning, which thanks to your excellent diction and I imagine some backend work are impeccable. However, on the sections where Monarch is speaking, the closed captioning seems to switch to Finnish - at least according to Google translate. Since you have hardcoded subtitles during those sections the accessibility issues are minimal, but it is somewhat confusing, and I’m unsure of the intentionality. Just thought I should let you know. Have a wonderful day!

Jack Lehmann

Your last few series have been good but this is the kind of investigation that makes being a supporter worth it!

Ron McKinnon

Great investigation. In the first part I didn’t get the connection between CSGO and casinos, I’ll have to go rewatch it now.

RTheren

Yeah...my opinion about influencers hasn't changed. Disgusting scumbags all of them.

nidar

The Netherlands banned all that. Even twitch loot

uya

the guy who didn’t use the one site bc they geo block. Am I crazy or does he not have a british accent? It’s weird i feel like it switches between british and then some parts are american

Monty Ewer

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter how they justify it to be moral. The websites wouldn’t continue to pay if the influencers weren’t making them a profit

Vlad Munteanu

I fear this situation is very similar to "real world" gambling, like for example sports betting. Especially in the EU and especially around soccer - betting houses receive all kinds of exemptions and they're more or less easily accessible to anyone (a bit of hassle but always do-able if they have a gateway or poc, and most do). And once the soccer federations/representatives are asked about this they act like it's a non problem and try to hand wave it away - cus obviously they won't diss their own big buck sponsors... Fun fact: in Romania some families have a family tradition to go put in a parley all together (kids included), usually on Sundays after the church mass.

Johnny Walker

I didn't know I could just support you for $5. You should mention that more often in your videos. Signed up!

who, me

Great case study of the destructive and downright nefarious force of unregulated or underregulated capitalism. If you will make more money by hurting more people, someone is going to do it, and so the market forces everyone to do it. We can (rightfully) critize individuals for their individual actions, but nothing substantial is going to change without systematic action that alters the incentive structure. Its a universal problem: see e.g. health care etc.

Larry Raab

My only issue with this is that WWE/TKO are big on testing and getting steroids out of the profession. It isn't perfect but I would "CSGamble" to say none of the stars you see on TV are on illegal or over prescribed steroids.

Ron Coleman

Stephen, great video. Your sum-up at the end was incredibly polished, insightful and compelling.