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Our Food is Our Fight | TMT 168 (Patreon)

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2026-03-15 15:59:01
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Mr's P. looks at the history of gardening and how everything is political. From tulips in the Ottoman Empire, to English cottages, American war gardens to the lawns of French aristocracy. Mrs. P looks at how gardening practices can topple empires, start wars, end wars and create an extraordinary amount of waste.

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0:00 Gardens Start Wars2:30 Tulips and the Ottoman Empire21:10 Forest Gardening23:41 Ancient Egypt and Babylon25:10 Ancient Persian Practical Gardens27:15 How Alexander the Great Changed Gardening30:18 Ancient Greek's used a lot of pot35:32 Roman's Where the A.I. of their time45:13 Cloister Garth, Party On, Wayne!47:46 Islamic Gardens Added Water56:44 Renaissance Gardens1:02:02 Tulips are from Kazakhstan?1:06:49 How the Dutch ruined Tulips and the Modern World1:16:54 Cottage Gardens Are Too Cute1:19:30 Mrs. P. Gets heated about lawns1:30:35 War Gardens, Propaganda, and Crimes1:54:09 Everything is Political

Comments

Tatianna Garcia

"In the break room or cubicle" "maybe youre folding laundry" No, im actually hitting my bong and playing minecraft😂

Get_Mrs_P_Her_Dang_Chickens

Should I change my name to yard bird? Had to come back from the secret YouTube so this made sense lol

Cait Monster

Actually I’m sewing a flannel pullover because I too only get 30 San Diego days a year

Rebecka C

Listening while ripping out the hairy bittercress that is trying to take over my garden (iykyk 😭)

The Trans Agenda (Bucky)

I love the quick segment of y'all mocking the maga girlies crying about how everyone is being so mean to them for regretting their vote. Need more of that.

Ari Yovel

10:00 a ballroom? With that many tulips, it's more like a bulb room. :P

The Trans Agenda (Bucky)

During the bit about how the Dutch cause everything bad, I could think of was this quote: "There are two things I can't stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures ...and the Dutch" - Nigel Powers (Michael Caine) in Austin Powers in Goldmember 🤣

Pluto's Ambassador to Earth

Alex Gemstone! Fantastic character name. Pearlmania dark comedy comic universe is coming together

MrsCarterOfMars

I frequently associate gardening with Pennsylvania because of you Bet Your Garden

HereForTheJillSteinBeef

SPIEGEL!! I don’t recall the mag but I remember my grandmother making many a trek to Phila’s own Franklin mills mall for the brick and mortar that used to be there. Could always count on them for sensible shoes

PumpkinKing008

My brain is so rotted that every time Alex says "Back in the day..." I immediately think of Markiplier jingling his keys. Man, I really hope someone understands this reference... 😅

Kari McCormick

I used to order from Spiegel and their sister catalog - Newport News.

Kari McCormick

I only know this because my son (who is 31 now) had showed it to me.

on vibes 24_7

I have the honor and pleasure of digging up a lawn in favor of a garden this year. I’ll do it for you Mr and Mrs P!

tach.o

Side note, I would love you and Mrs P to play rdr2 for commentary

Caitlin Morton

I was always told to follow the left wall in a maze as even if you hit a dead end you will be able to follow a path. Just in case you get trapped in one Alex.

Lovexash

Gardener with a newborn here. Mrs. P - can you speak to how you garden (specifically getting plants in soil) with a baby? Are you passing the baby off or having him around? Also, I’ve killed 4 bonsai and I have a green thumb. 🦆

Soojin

Any suggestions on books that will help curb the insatiable need to become a bonsai serial killer?

Nick Palmer

Not to be lat guy but for gardening it’s the 3 sisters the 7 sisters is the Pleiades constellation. The 3 sisters is corn beans and squash

AYAZUKI Yugi (綾月 遊戯)

Sun Tzu's book was essentially him explaining to clueless bureaucrats that there is a fundamental distance that you can extend your supply chain before you're hauling more food for the supply chain itself than for any other purpose.

Nikki Ann

Holland Michigan has a tulip festival every year and now I’m tempted to make the 3 hour drive to tell them tulips aren’t from Holland. Also yes Spiegel! And the Sears and Montgomery Ward catalog.

Tri-Sarah-tops

My desk is now covered in coffee I just spit everywhere bc of Lawrence off dry labia You cannot breathe coffee

on vibes 24_7

Costa Farms is flooding the market with all the houseplants that used to be rare and expensive- exactly like what happened to tulips. I really love to see it, there was never a reason for philodendrons to be $500 in 2021.

Alex and Rachel Trautman

I should have known better than to not have expected a tulip episode to go that direction.

Alex and Rachel Trautman

It would be both worth it and not. I know the kind of people that live around there and go to the festival. West Michigan is not the vibe...

DamnYouVodka

I've never liked a maze but I'm claustrophobic with a TERRIBLE sense of direction so that's a hell trap for me

Nikki Ann

For sure. Every time we go out that way it’s like we stepped into some kind of weird backwards reality from the Detroit area. Founders has a brewery in Detroit now so we don’t need to go to GR anymore.

✨Hot Marta✨

Anytime Alex mentions nfts and then spells it out for Mrs. P, I always think non fungible turnips, cause ya know, that stupid bear needs to fund his war crimes somehow.

OneGoodKnight

Which reminds me to check on my animal crossing community garden

Shakirah Bey

Holy shiiiiit I haven't thought about the Spiegel catalog in decades. My aunts all had them. The logo was in cursive.

President of the Fishbein Fan Club

Ikeda’s?!? With a store in Auburn?!? You just boomed me, hard 🤯 I used to live less than a mile from the Ikeda’s farm store. They have amazing produce, a grill, delicious jams, salsas, pretty much everything you can imagine in a farm stand. But the pies………the pies are so good that there is a line out the door and down the street every Thanksgiving. People come from all over California and pick up their holidays pies on the way to Lake Tahoe. It gets so crazy they have to redirect traffic. Man I miss that farm stand 🥺 (born and raised NYer - I was so glad to move out of California I think that might be the only thing I miss)

Jessica Dille

But... my yard is so pretty! (We do have a garden as well. Why are pumpkins so hard to grow in Philly? I live in south central PA, and our pumpkins took over our yard last year.)

Sara_the_Bookworm

I live in the Pacific Northwest and my house has a tiny lawn (like 6 feet by 5 feet) and immediately upon moving in I worked on killing the grass and making it into a moss patch. HOA be damned I'm not watering a grass patch.

Probably_walking_my_dogs

Yeah, if you fuck with a tortoise’s shell, you’re on the shit list for me! They have feeling in their shells!

Jessipoot

Right? And who got to kiss in a corn maze?? Mrs p was having way more fun than me

Short_Range_Attack_Chicken

Do you know that the U.S. government has a program teaching how to can?!? I went to a class a couple years ago.

Short_Range_Attack_Chicken

So running through my head when you mentioned hedges in gardens…. We are the Knights Who Say... Ni! You must return here with a shrubbery or else you will never pass through this wood alive!

AugieLovesPenny

The instant I heard the word “shrubbery”

Vibin’ in the mind palace

I think I first heard about Victory Gardens as a kid from one of the American Girls’ books - that took me *back*. Also I’ve killed so many bamboo plants, my mom gave me a fake one 😂

MeDrawPretty

My wife and I live in San Diego, but we’re originally from Cleveland (go Guardians!) so we absolutely know how good we have it and we don’t take it for granted. Today was 84° and sunny, with wispy clouds and a nice breeze. 🌬️🌤️ Side note: I started listening to 2MT literally two weeks after Mr. P did his stand-up show in San Diego. I was so bummed. I’m hoping to find some time away from my 4wk old baby boy and his 4yr old sister next time Alex does a set in San Diego.

Dean Denton

There's a beautiful board game called Botany about Victorian English-people collecting flowers from across the world. The art is incredible and its pretty fun, check it out!

Eleanor Yeomans

Who else first learned about victory gardens through American girl dolls?

Eleanor Yeomans

If you ever want to see an amazing community garden in a city, I highly recommend the Roosevelt Island Community Garden in NYC.

Megan

I love "Soldiers of the Soil".

Jennifer

What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ!

LadyRaenef

I think mr p would like a peace lilly they are the most dramatic plant ive ever had!

SheetzGang

We need a special garden episode of Vibing with the Food Idiot where Mrs. P booms Mr. P with weird plants facts like how almost all vegetables are just broccoli in a different shape

StarlightDancer

In invader Zim, the alien leaders are literally called "The Tallest" lol

Mrs. Pearlmania500

The way I have been working an episode of the pod like this for years. One day I am going to make it happen! -Mrs.P

SheetzGang

This was my special interest for like 2 years when I first started gardening! Hit me up if you need more weird plant facts.

Margaret Peffy Margie Maggie

I got SO MANY catalogs in the 80s. Spiegel was definitely one and that script-y font immediately flashed before my eyes as soon as you said it. (I also very fondly remember The Pyramid Collection.... Witchy shit and vibrators. What a combo.)

That_Wokelahoman_Teacher

My elementary school (the one I worked at) had a victory garden! The kids got really invested. One stuff grew, none of the kids wanted to eat vegetables. Which means they invited their favorite vegetarian teacher (me) to go graze like a brontosaur. It was awesome.

That_Wokelahoman_Teacher

I teach a unit on propaganda in my history class. We study some of the garden iconography. Mrs. P chose some of the best to highlight.

Little Hound, Big Sound

I seriously was shooketh to hear Pearlbabia isn't into Cars anymore! Anyone want to make bets on how Alex disposed of the toy Tow Mater? I'm thinking sledgehammer.

A Mountain Dwarf Miner of the Coldiron Clan

My partner boomed me with the realization that the Stalk Market on Animal Crossing is a little 'teehee' in Japanese culture because the Dutch traded with Japan when the borders were closed. Because they ALSO would have traded a certain bulb related plant. (Callback to the Japans border episode!)

Post_Potato_Gluten_Free_Bathtub_Bolognese

Hold on, so you’re telling me there is a reason that my Catholic highschool had a tree in the middle of it? As someone who only went to Catholic school at age 15 I was so confused as to why in the middle of the school was a tree, statues and a bunch of fake plants (real tree though). Well I’ll be damned, I just thought Catholics were just being weird on that one.

Coco Boomslang

I would LOVE an old timey video series by Mrs. P on WW era victory gardens. I don't know how to deal with plants. My black thumb has a black thumb. IVE KILLED AIR PLANTS FFS!!!! 😭😭😭

Europoopin

"Food is ammunition don't waste it" goes pretty hard, I'd wear that shirt. 😎

Europoopin

I too have killed air plants. 🥲 What you need to get are spider plants. I swear to god they thrive on neglect and they're non toxic to pets. 😎 They just might make your cat hallucinate a lil bit.

Errrrrrn

I have tix for 4/18 but I have to cover a shift #managerlife. Soul joes doesn’t do refunds so I’m losing the money anyway. Does anyone want to go? I’ll donate you my tix!! They are preferred seating so I extra want them to be filled

Arlo the Average

Why does every lore drop about the early days of Mr & Mrs P sound like an indie movie. “We kissed on the steps of the art museum” okay A24

Mercury™

So glad to know that CSGO skin gambling evolved from somewhere.

Abbazabba_youse_my_only_friend

We don't take our shoes of to walk in the grass here because you'll get tore up by fireants.... I miss it