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Fireside Chat for WWW ep26 "The Conclave of the Witches of the Coven of Elders"" (Patreon)

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2024-05-14 09:01:01
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2024-06-07 23:19:57
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MY SISTERS ARE HERE. Goodbye horse, hello Mr. Richard Oklahoma. Oh wait a minute. Oh no. Oh gosh. Goodbye Mr. Richard Oklahoma. We didn't even get to look at his teeth :(

 

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Sven the Scribe

'Hey, are you kelp? Because when you touch my foot I freak out' - Things I never expected to hear Brennan say.

Emma Runswick

I've been listening to the fireside on Patreon. I've now worked out getting them on pocket casts. Does it get you more money if I listen on pocket casts? Even if marginal?

The Wizard Storm

IRL Brennan would make the best Witch of the World's Heart

Blue Jones

IRL Brennan IS the Witch of the World's Heart

Sam Leitermann

You gotta eat that um-ame sousvide in the Er-salon

lil guy

I can't help but wonder if back when she was an apprentice, Indri was treated the same way she treats her own apprentice

lil guy

Than you Sam Leitermann, the hero we needed.

Rain

I will pay any amount of money for backstory one-shots, or also just well produced lore-dumps on the witches and how they met/aquired their apprentices and familiars. 😭

Anonymous Developer

"I keep getting dunked on by the imagination people" They should really put this on the back cover of every Tabletop Module Book like one of those paid-for-book reviews from the Citadel Post

Glen Petrofski

I always thought the whole Indri (can't remember the spelling) deal was an ugly duckling type situation. But darker. The isolation of being "ugly" and then the isolation of "beauty".

Sean Hutton

Loved the talkback, very funny. Making a sincere plea to not put in unexpected alarm sounds, i work in a place where emergency signals actually sound like that and freaked out at the top of a tall ladder.

bluebluebutton

My favorite witch is also Ame ☺️

Mubarak Abdi

I love hearing about all the subtle jabs (and not so subtle with the frozen garden of people and eating a literal heart) that are getting thrown the parties way. The thought that Nief was being sent to get the world's heart contingent because it reflects how Indri feels is just *chef's kiss*

C. A. Whyse

Should've known Oklahoma was an SCP all along.

Elise

That Iago impression almost had me spit coffee all over my drawing assignment 🤣 “Being dunked on by imagination people” is practically a pastime of creatives and people with adhd 😜

Patrick M

Are we ever getting a 12 Brooks part 2?

The Witch of Wizards

My take Neif: there’s something about the witch of the wind and stars that suggests imperviousness. She has the largest wardrobe known to man and is immediately willing to give Suvi her choice of a dozen beautiful scarves so she is not really hoarding that wardrobe either. Offering her the scarves felt like a show of power in and of itself. She’s directly showing us that she could easily clothe her apprentice properly and it would be nothing to her, but she is choosing not to. That suggests to me that the state of Neif’s dress is a very intentional part of her training. In order to become the ice queen you must become ice yourself. You get the distinct impression that she could walk the North Pole in a thin evening gown as comfortably as anything else and that any shows of warmth have more to do with fashion than necessity. There’s also a cycle of abuse suggested here. Perhaps the ice queen always abuses her apprentice. She works the emotion and the warmth out of her until she too is a cold outward beauty. What throws me off the most about the state of Neif is that this is a person who cares very deeply about outward appearances. It was interesting that Brennan mentioned Neif was not present at the conclave itself. In some ways having Neif tend to Ame may be a manipulation or a slight, but there’s also a sense of comfort there. Ame is someone who has been allowed to see the room with the dirty laundry, if you will. It’s incredibly interesting that she would drop her guard to such a degree for her.

Benjamin McDonald

I work at a school and that alarm at the end had me take my ear buds out so quickly to make sure it wasn't something here.

Alyssa Haughwout

It’s such a music-based conversation I neeeed reference clips. My goldfish brain doesn’t remember

Nahda

Adding to that, i felt like it was a call back to the time Ame dreamed of meeting the other witche's apprentice to make friend. For me it was bittersweet: she is meeting them but she is not an apprentice anymore and cannot befriend them in that way

Lax

the bit evolving from “lou plays eursulon and guests do the talkbacks because he’s in panama” to “a different guest played eursulon every episode” after brennan came back has been very fun to witness

Jacob B.

I feel like Taylor has this motif in his productions of using this swingy 50's 60's music. Rude Tales had a lot of it and I love it man, its always had such a warm sound to me and he just kills it.

Elizabeth Boskey

I loved the puns! Also, I cannot tell you how much it made my day that they answered my question, because I really wanted to know the answer ... but also because ... eeee!!!! They answered my question!!!!!

Mehmet

The “You think you are mommy, you aren’t mommy” bit at the end has me on the floor laughing

Carrie Suzanne @ Petit Valais

“I’m gonna Eursulon down to the kitchen and have some” … After two stellar puns, the effort had to be made, and it seemed an impossible task. The result is utterly preposterous, yet… parfait.

El Jefe

Loved it when the cast sealed the bag and Suvi’d the tension. Do I want more? Hell yeah, put it Ame! I’ll H’Eursulon down to the kitchen to fill up another bowl of that stew.

Zac

I think Indri has an apprentice because she’s The Witch of Wind and Stars and Neif is just the latest. They die and she just keeps going on and plucks another apprentice as needed.

The Witch of Wizards

That struck me too! It’s definitely a relationship Ame dreamed of and I think she probably put the other witches and apprentices on a pedestal

Darcy Barlow

I got the sense that the witches choose apprentices who are like them, or like they *were*. There’s a clear path from Ame to Wren, I think, and from Grimore(?)’s apprentice to her final clawed form. I’m fascinated though by the idea of “how do you get from Neif to Indri?”

sabertruth19

“Nous allons maintenant à Le Beurre Salon, où nous apprendons à flamber avec Ame et cuissonons sous-vide avec Suvi. Je suis votre hôte, Eursalon. Beaucoup Naram-nom-noms pour vous.” - this intro to the French cooking spin-off show brought to you by Aabria and Brennan’s Duolingo competition. 👩🏾‍🍳💋

Carrie Suzanne @ Petit Valais

There are other covens, right? Maybe of “lesser” witches? When they were doing their walkabout in arc 1, some people were so excited to have dealings with a witch. Witches are sometimes respected and revered but I didn’t get the impression they were scary-supernatural. And I can’t imagine your average human having a positive interaction with anyone of this coven, except Ame. So what are other witches/covens like? More/less unhinged? More/less powerful?

Ecceptable

Yay discussion of Nief that makes Indri into a Real Housewife! Boo the old "I'm sorry you feel that way," line in arguments! Yay realizing that the gang is getting dunked on by "imaginary people"! Boo forgetting to tell your friend that witches are trying to kill her whole culture! Triple yay the talk about different layers of personality making people do things that they aren't even aware of. (Suvi getting to the library before she gets to her crush. Ame being too scared of Suvi being mad and therefore withholding information which will, when it comes out, justifiably make Suvi even more mad.) The music is amazing. One thing this podcast is doing is making me aware of how people who actually think about music in media do their work. I've never considered how that happens.

Ecceptable

My thing, during the scarf offering scene, was being like, "No! Don't take a token from a witch! That's mechanically the kiss of death!"

TPK_light

That officially brings our guest count to one bankrupt, and two dead out of 21 total. Not bad odds, but not great either 😂

Ryan L.

Just Breathtaking Soundscapes once again Taylor! Thank You for the incredible work you continue to do!

Vernath

These fireside chats are so sleepover coded to me im so excited for the next ones

Kelly

“Queen of the Second Marshmallow” is my new favorite title, thank you!

Jack Jones

Crazy that the gang brought along the SCP formerly known as Richard Oklahoma onto the fireside

BethKF

Queen of the Second Marshmallow is the BEST title I’ve ever heard.

Genna

"in another life I could have been a mean girl, I could have had that" Brennan Lee Mulligan 💜

CommodoreBlue

Just listened to the movie version of Meet the Plastics for the first time. Yeah, that definitely belongs on Suvi’s playlist 🤣

The Overthinker

"I liked the sounds when the witches came." -Aabria She didn't come Aabria, you walked away from the tub.

BethKF

Which word?

vvitch

"pop me like a squeeze it" howling and the whole neighbourhood can hear it omfg

Britt Anderson

The intro of the other witches gave me CHILLS - it was PHENOMENAL. Definitely made me start drawing The Witch of the Wild Hunt and she is SO intense

Fxd Gear Queer

Where to begin? 1st to Um Actually the comment section and myself: Niamph 😊 2nd I live for Lou's befuddlement whenever Aabria and Erika let their freak flag fly 1😅 3rd unreasomably stoked that Brennan's titles for my favorite tracks in this ep match the ones I made up in my head 🥳

Chris B

Taylor once again pulling out the banger of a track for the credit roll. Perfect, no notes.

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

It refers to a study in which children were offered the option of 1 marshmallow now, or 2 marshmallows later. It’s a study that has since shown some shortcomings, but ultimately it refers to the concept of ‘deferred gratification’ where you forgo the thing you want now because you believe by doing that you can achieve a greater gratification later.

BethKF

Sorry, brain blank, I thought the question was about a word not the reference, not sure how I got turned around. As @TheloniousPunkyBrewster says below refers to the various Delayed Gratification studies on young kids. Can they leave the marshmallow on the table in front of them, when left alone for a time, if they’ve been promised a second marshmallow if they don’t eat the first one until the adult returns. Like Suvi, I was a Queen of the Second Marshmallow for most of my life 😂 (not so much nowadays though 😬😳)

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

Sometimes somebody puts words to something your body has always known, and your brain figures it out for the first time 🙋🏻‍♀️

Faith Price

Queen of the Second Marshmallow is CRAZYYYY

Alex Ochoa

Omg was that Erica singing the song in the end???

Jonathan Travers

The ending though! I laughed so hard. Taylor that was inspired!

J. Griffin Hughes

Did Richard Oklahoma have a Netherese Orb in his chest? 😮

Ecceptable

I don't think anyone's trying to convince me to hate any character, but I often feel like I disagree fundamentally about the morality of the world and the characters. I feel very presumptuous speaking like I know anyone's full opinion about the moral issues. But still, sometimes I hear stuff in the podcast and fireside that seems so incredibly bizarre to me. "So, this dude says that me and my whole culture is a dagger in the heart of the world and is planning to kill us?" "Yes, and I agree, but I respect you and don't want to fight about it." " . .. He's coming to eradicate me, my friends, my mom, my stepdad, my siblings, my culture. You agree. And you think the issue is you respecting me?"

Britt Anderson

So glad that I wasn’t the only one whose imagination ran wild with The Witch of the Wild Hunt

Sasha

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was incredibly down bad for the scary wild hunt lady 🙂

Warren Summers III

There is an episode of Real house wives of Potomac where they stayed st the Windsor Court Hotel. I was the desk agent that checked them in.

BethKF

If I could do art, Suvi, Ame & Eursulon at Children’s Adventure age, each doing the Marmallow Test would be happening. In my head it’s adorable.

Ecceptable

One thing I fully agree on: There is no Mommy who is Mommier than Steel. Steel is the Mommiest Mommy.

Moosebeanie

I wonder how the cast feels knowing that this will be new generations' LotR or Dune. This show is just SO FUCKING GOOD, every tiny detail slaps.

Melody Snow

There's something special about getting high level production bits in the Fireside. I love this series.

Morgana Evenstar

We love to Eursulon-ch on some Suvi'd Um-Ame flavor. So much love for y'all's stew-like collaborative magic.

Candlelighter

My take on Niamph was that she was a level 0 witch, like Ame in the children's adventure. Just truly no resources, spells, constitution score. But she's in the domain of the wind and stars, not the world's heart, and she just can't keep up. It kind of read as carelessness on Indri's part, like she's centuries into being this ancient powerful witch who can't feel the cold and she's forgotten what it's like to be a child. But I do have to wonder if Indri thinks she's never going to die or something, because I don't understand making someone your apprentice to such a prestigious and difficult station and then not investing in them? Like, that's just poor planning. Favorite music was definitely the witches entrance. It reminded me of the Great Bear's parade, but spooky and invoking that twisty cackle of witches

Nicole Jordan

Before I even listen to this I just have to say that the descriptions of the witches was one of the coolest thing I’ve ever heard I couldn’t stop smiling and gasping. So visceral and beautiful! Witches are so sick. That was so sick. This podcast is so sick.

Ecceptable

I think Ame is kind, but I think you're completely right that she's doing the witch version of "therapy speak" on Suvi.

Ben Fogle

Please release the cut where Suvi gets into the bathtub and just waits

Ajax

I was texting a friend that they needed to start listening.

Kodi Gonzaga (aka jaztice)

AAAAA THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION! I truly loved Niamph as a tension-cutting "edit" character (bc the one thing that will unite Suvi and Ame faster than anything is a sad little girl who needs help) but YEAH I loved the implications of her being Indri's apprentice, just... I think it says something VERY important when you compare how someone treats peers to how they treat subordinates. This. Story. Is. So. JUICY!!!! AAAAAA <3

Glen Petrofski

In a way isn't that also a sign of respect? To allow the world's heart to see the unseen parts of Indris world?

Glen Petrofski

I mentioned it earlier, but I took the interaction as a dark ugly duckling stereotype. The isolation of "ugly" and then the isolation of "beauty". It does match the whole training the warmth and emotions out of future ice queen. Makes me wonder if it will be the ice queen who would also have to go for balance.

Glen Petrofski

Getting her used to the isolation and cold?

Glen Petrofski

They did say that this is the coven of Elders, to me that indicates there are covens that concern themselves with other stations of the world. That perhaps these witches just happened to be the first of the physical this the elders but perhaps the other covens would concern themselves with other aspects of the mortal/real?

Glen Petrofski

I thought it was that he agreed he was being honest, or did I misinterpret that.

Glen Petrofski

To me at that age it would be a game of Chubby bunny for me

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Grandma Wren had said Grimire had an apprentice. Did that one die? Aksha is only six.

Morgana Evenstar

"Not the mama. Not the mama. Not the mama. NOT THE MAMA!" -Suvi

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Hmmm. At the moment, I don't think it's a sign of respect. I think Indri thinks neither Ame nor her station is worthy of "front-of-house" service. I also noticed that all the other witches had saves associated with them. Ame doesn't--yet. I am suddenly remembering, though, Brennan's line about Grandma Wren "standing in the deep end the whole time." Obviously Grandma Wren had depths Ame has not reached, but I think there is already more to Ame than anyone knows. She surprised Grimore and maybe earned a little respect.

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Eursulon didn't say he agreed with the Man in Black. He said, "I believe him." I took that to mean, "I believe he means what he says and wasn't trying to trick me." After all, the Man in Black "made it clear that he was coming for [Ame], and I told him she was under my guardianship." That's not agreeing with him. I can still see Suvi being further hurt, though: "So you warned him that *Ame* is under your guardianship. Didn't say a word about protecting me. I see."

Carrie Mook Bridgman

That experiment would never have worked on me. Raw marshmallow? Not remotely tempting. The experimenter would have praised my self-control and offered the second marshmallow, and I would have said, "Yuck. No, thanks."

Axel Ember

I've been thinking about this for the past week about taylor moore but i just wanna say "that man is nooooon stop"

Joshua Cooper

Taylor bringing the Strange love homage. *Chef's Kiss*

Lucy Leveret

I'm sure it will be uploaded to Ao3 sooner rather than later!

Zanna

"Always star in your own movie." - Ken Kesey

Jeffrey H.

I’m so glad Richard Oklahoma was here to help with the Iago Fiasco, cause I could not stop thinking about the damn parrot.

Beanz

I know there's a lot of other stuff but when Nief came on the scene, I started judging Indry differently. She's got big villain energy and okay that's cool and expected but as soon as you show me an underclothed apprentice in Ice Hell, it's too real life. It emphasizes that Indry is an ice cold bitch and has no problem doing this to even this tiny pitiful thing. No mercy. But also, Nief is gonna fill icy shoes one day and these are probably actions that weed out the "unworthy." Something like Urselon's dad saying Urselon should have been allowed to die if he couldn't survive the water. Also, the sounds of the coven entrance brought me "entrance of Prince Ali in Aladdin" vibes. But sinister. :3 I really love the nonhuman aspects of the witches. When you are an entity that represents something not involving humans, I think it fits well.

Moira Goree

Is this the first character death on a commentary about an episode?

mguin

Oh Richard We had so little time 🥺 (at least it wasn't cosmic horror, I heard Aabria mention Akira)

I Davis

The witch parade was so phenomenal and the music was the cherry on top truly it reminds me of like a fast waltz! Taylor is doing amazing! Only critique this episode: not enough soup talk :)

Glen Petrofski

I thought not giving Suvis name was why he didn't mention her at all.

Joe

I think it would be a cool idea to play the tracks in the background when they're talking about certain music from the show. Sometimes I don't remember what they sounded like while I'm distracted lol

JoelleDFTBA

Brennan watches figure skating: confirmed

The Wizard Strike

There was another death during the season 1 talkbacks. I forget which episode- Brenan shot him iirc

Jack1Spade Creations

Someone help me... this might be a cultural thing. But WTF is "Auntie Energy?" My aunts have almost nothing in common and I rarely saw them and didn't really have a deep connection with them. So... what does that ter m mean to people who understand it?

Lojaan

You listen to podcasts at the top of tall ladders..?

Lojaan

Combo of big sister and maternal energy without the complications of being immediately related. Your mum might say "huh you kinda had that coming", your auntie will go out and cut the person who hurt you

KSolstice

Someone who is feircly loyal, caring and protective like a parent but also can cut up with, party with, and go to when your too embarrassed or scared to go to your mom

KSolstice

The song at the end gave me big horror energy and I wasnt prepared 😂

lunarsummer

Please wait 2 weeks turn around time as the smut mines are cleared of previous payloads 💖 😂we thank you for your generous patience

Brandon Carbaugh

My take on Nief is that it's a little-known secret about the station of the Wind & Stars that they always start as pathetic little dorks, and get glammed up gradually over the course of their apprenticeship like Devil Wears Prada. For a Witch of the World's Heart, your coming-of-age moment is a Kiki's Delivery Service flight sequence where you get a broom at the end. For a Witch of the Wind & Stars, it's a closet step-out makeover montage, where you get your first good haircut and a pair of Chanel boots.

Mubeen Khan

How is the Sea Doo repair going?

James Bixler

I am just going to keep thanking all of you for what you are doing. It is amazing. Shout out to Taylor. So many times in podcasts and videocasts I dread the sound design. But OMG Taylor your sound is one of the things that I look forward to so much each time I see a episode drop. It helps tell the story so well. You are incredible. So listening to this fireside helped me solidify some thoughts I have been having. Urselon: There is something to the way his breath is related to Honor that is developing in a way that feels really important to the story. It is like his breath being honor is a mirror reflecting in a mirror. Does the collective unconscious of the mortals of Umora shine Honor into the world of spirits or is the mortal idea of Honor a world of forms spirit idea that is poured into Umora? Or both? Either way it feels like with the passing of an age of knights and honor, that something is wrong with the connection between Umora and the Spirit Worlds. Can Ureslon be a bridge whose breath becomes a return of this pure thing to both Umora and the Spirit world. Intended or no I imagine that as this develops I am going to feel really drawn to what and how that speaks to something profoundly pure and I love it. Suvi: To everyone giving Suvi crap, I think perhaps you might be missing just how much her Trauma is being kicked. Nope its not healthy, but man is it pretty moving and real. I do hope that in the end the story takes her to a place of healthy healing, at least with Ame and Urselon. I love a good tragedy or a moving poignant character arc. Here though I hope for the character who values knowledge so deeply to come eventually to the revelation that understanding herself, despite the pain of her losses, is the most powerful kind of knowledge. I hope for an arc where insight and understanding come around how her trauma is creating a lack of clarity and strings that the machinery of Empire can use to puppet her or blind her or force upon her a manipulative ignorance of her deepest self. What I love about Suvi’s story is how I keep seeing new facets of it and how central her fear of and desire for connection shape all of them. Amazing. Ame: Oh Ame. I feel like we are catching oblique glimpse of some of the deeper reasons Grandmother Wren chose her. Much time was spent talking about why the other apprentice was chosen. It sparked me to consider more deeply why Ame was chosen. Fact is that we know that Wren was definitely refusing to agree to the rest of the collective will of her Coven. The sense is that that was happening long before Ame was chosen. We know Wren was trying to solve a riddle and had not been able to. But maybe, just maybe she did, or at least she planted the solution in the world by training Ame. What did she see of the worlds heart in Ame? What deep secrets did Wren read upon the heart of this dear child she was given care of? Ame is at work. Is Ame also the hope for fulfillment of Wren at work? Human hearts are different that the other forces represented on the Coven and one of those differences is the way human hearts pass on legacy. Yep. I don’t think we have yet even scratched the surface of who Ame is and who she might become. Brennan: OK sir! I feel like you are trying to pull a stage magician trick on this Fireside and I am calling it here and now. You took the time to play up how big and scary the forces represented on the Coven are. And I think you are being real. However it strikes me that these witches are mortals. They are bridges. Thus in part, no matter how subsumed they are by the forces they represent, under all of it they are still mortals with hearts, and all that that implies. This is perhaps why we see Wren able to defy her Coven. Is this the why Wren can, with dignity and grace, deliver to her sister Marrara(sp) a threat that seems clearly one taken almost as fact that she can deliver on it? I think they were scared of her. Hence all the hints of mean girl BS directed not just at Wren but at the station of the witch of the worlds heart. Did one or more of them come to the realization that ultimately the station of the worlds heart can pull on their humanity in a way no witch can ever truly escape or shield herself from? So now Wren is gone they have decided to try to strike now that the current holder of the station is young and does not fully understand the Coven's susceptibility to the power of her station? Yep. I am calling it here. Your emphasis on how her station is not much to them or how they see it feels like a Trojan horse. At least some of them are clocking this I am guessing. Finally, this Fireside made me really want Ame to find a way to or look into finding a way restore the lost stations of the Coven. Is the loss creating an imbalance at least in Umora? Seems possible. Could the witch of the worlds heart see into the truest selves of those she meets and seek out mortals who are the ideal bridges to the ideals that are not longer represented? I think she just might be. One wonders if Wren ever considered doing this as a way to find a solution to the problem she was posed. I love how much this story makes me think and how much your firesides inspire this humble listener. Thanks all of you. Keep at it. Incredible stuff.

Sean Hutton

Absolutely, makes the day go faster when you’re painting

Tyrat

I think I can infer what the Witch of the Wild Hunt moment would be and it terrifies me

BardicDesperation

We love a Dr. Strangelove reference in 2024 😚👌

Ecceptable

Listening back on the conversation I see you're right that it's much more ambiguous than I remember. I think you can interpret it as Eursalon believing the man's sincerity as well as believing what the man believes. Thanks!

Ecceptable

Listening back on the conversation I see you're right that it's much more ambiguous than I remember. I think you can interpret it as Eursalon believing the man's sincerity as well as believing what the man believes. Tantalizing! Thanks!

StWindsor

That ending song always gets me, it is so dang good! Taylor, your sound design and musical selection is so spot on. It is truly its own character in the beautiful world our players are in. Cheers to you!

Jack1Spade Creations

Thank you, I didn't realize it was a positive protective thing. My gut instict told me it was a shameful being disappointed in someone thing. The sort of person who just judges you and you're never able to appease.

Jack1Spade Creations

Thank you, I didn't realize it was a positive protective thing. My gut instict told me it was a shameful being disappointed in someone thing. The sort of person who just judges you and you're never able to appease.

Hannah

Erika: in some cultures, a show of dominance is looking inside of someone’s mouth Me with a completely logical and sane followup question: so dentists are all dommy mommies

Conor Steinke

Sous vide and Um-Ame were inspired. As was the heart eating trashtalk. Fireside chats are packed with value.

brewnhilda

That last 90 seconds of the episode

Ryan McHugh

Sometimes it’s so hard to recommend this show to people. “Do you like heartfelt improvised roleplay and heavily committed Dr Strangelove references?” This is not a criticism, keep it up you lovely maniacs.

Crow

This is an incredible analysis/breakdown of things. All the love and respect

Cocomoose

James holy crap truly truly well put and said and love the deeper look you put in!! Truly!!! Also about Suvi you hit on the nail. She has so much trauma and grief and for her to cope with that is to stick to facts and reason and dismiss her emotions. I’m a licensed therapist and some of the work is how to use her wise mind basically. To acknowledge her emotions and facts and logic and not to be so one sided to logic and not acknowledge the emotions which is such a hard work and journey to do.

Luke Hampshire

The last few minutes of this episode feel like this arc's Crazy Frog and that's all I'll say about that

Evelina Meiklejohn

"In another life, I could have been a mean girl." 🤣🤣🤣

Julie

Screaming at the ending music!!!!!!

R. Wesley Nipper

Brennan really just came out and said the thing we've all been thinking since we met Aelwyn Abernant, which is that he would have been the world's most devastating Heather. Like, finally. Like, truly, there's never been a better time to say "so you admit it." It's like, instead of a Dungeon Lord we would have had a queen bee? Not dark but like beautiful and terrible as the dawn, tempestuous as the sea? We'd like love her and despair or whatever.

James Bixler

Oh I am for sure in mental health and human services myself. I am also a hopeless armchair philosopher and have a wicked case of ADHD brain. This thing being done here hits all the best healthiest buttons for me as a human. I am so drawn to story and this group of people and what they are doing with stories is something I have so many profound thoughts about and gratitude for. Also...I am gonna keep saying it.....Abria is nailing the loss/abandonment/raised by machinery of empire energy. It's so real without being hopeless. I really hope Suvi gets to a place where her mind gets to be whole and she find how powerfully paired logic and wise mind actually are. I sort of have this sense that her parents were both on that road but coming from opposite directions and fell for each other on part for that reason. Also ya know ....Grandma Wren saw that? Did it solidify her resolute defiance of her sister to save the potential pairing of logic and wise mind Soft and Stone were seeking? Oh damg I could make a career out of this kind of reflection analysis.....

Justin Wolford

Since we are talkin about witches i just seen the trailer for wicked, and i cant stop thinking this is suvi if she multi classed as a witch.

Osiris Nightwood

She's got to be absorbing the beauty and desire from the people around her

Medway

Ricocheting from real housewives to mean girls to Suvi is my favourite thing rn

yimyams

havent even heard the fireside chat yet, just came to say im in love with Suvi and Taylor Moore

Entropy_Head

Wow I fully misread the relationship between Indri and Neef. I fully thought the compulsion around Indri was a possible part of the station of Wind and Stars and that, like being unbothered by the cold, Neef could only inherit the station and its compulsion by first living in a destitute state. Like, being poor and lowly and freezing was an axis of metamorphosis for that station, and it was just a different kind of kinship and training than Ren or Hekaea use for their apprentices.

Theo Lee

THE JUICE!! ☠️

Zac

Aksha appears to be six

susan tiss

Drawing a connection between Real Housewives, Mean Girls, and WBN made my day complete.

The Spirit of Vicious Inspiration

even on a re-listen when I know it’s coming, the alarm blare when Richard breaks containment continues to trigger a real-life “oh shit what’s happening?!” response from me lol. like half a second of pure panic before I recollect myself and mutter “idiot” under my breath 😅

niv fecher

Actually sureal experience listing to this episode beacuse my name is niv, which is so close to nif, at points I felt like you were talking to me, I absolutely loved it though

AliceH

Just came here to say that I watched the new Means Girls bc of this and I was already *very queer* but Renee Rapp's facial expressions unlocked an entire BONUS LEVEL of "oh... OH" 🌈💖

Ack I’m Dead

How do we find those of you going to GenCon at GenCon?

Camille Lanata

are you a secret Brennan account? the “incredible” and the crow make me think so lol

Jas Thompson

i was gonna be so shocked if no one was thirsting for the bear lady in this 😂

yimyams

Suvi: why that baby aint got no coat on?! true aunty energy

Ethan Heartsill

So happy to have Erika proudly repping us bisexuals. Yes, we WOULD do whatever the scary animal lady covered in blood tells us to!

RuviGaPo

Happy to know erika Also would love for Grimore to utterly murder them ♡

TeacupTheBopcaJournalist

Hi there, I am very confused on what the dunk was that Brennan/Neef did, could someone please explain?

Shannon Shea

By Indri sending Neef to them, she was sending the “back-stage / back of the house” staff to them, which you don’t reveal to people you think are important.

TeacupTheBopcaJournalist

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH SSHIIIIITTTTT!!!!!! DAAAAMN! Thank you so much for explaining that! Oh my god that’s hard!

Koi Boi Tracy

We can’t keep letting them get away with this… ALL THE GUESTS ARE LOU. ALL OF THEM! He even refers to his “Lou brain” in the chat! Wake up friends! We are being deceived!

kragonaught

If Indri is a being with everything that anyone would Want, I interpreted Neef as the embodiment of Wanting. Who wants more than the little matchstick girl stuck in the snow? I could see Neef enduring all of this with the promise of inheriting Indri’s station.

Shannon Shea

As a “deal with bad things by Logic! and Problem Solving!” person, I absolutely relate to Suvi’s journey and have been struggling with that myself.

Emily Joynes

My guess is that station gets taken over... forcibly 😬

Esther Bee

Brennan doing Gilbert Gottfried…hm check that off my vacillating ethereal bingo card

aliza c

YOURE NOT MOMMY‼️ YOU DONT HAVE THE FIRST IDEA ABOUT MOMMY‼️

Steven

Was Richard's mind wiped by the same jungle captives of Brennen and sent to finish the job as some sort of Alien-bursting Manchurian candidate???

Avri

I inferred that Neif's presentation combined with her saying "sorry for shivering," are intrinsic to her apprenticeship. Her exposure to elements feels like a sort of gauntlet to her hardening herself. The Elsa type of having to be cold and truly isolated through some mental and physical strain. Sprinkled in with the sorrow that all is only what you make of it.

Mavis

I love how unhinged the fireside is

DaphneDawn

Erika got there with “grin & bear it” 👏

Harper

The captions on the firesides & the episodes never miss 😌 “we didnt even get to look at his teeth :(“

Daxeah Reacts

Yall are just so insane together in the best of ways.

Samrami

Oklahoma mention!!🫶

Astrid

I think that she's going to steal neifs youth personally

Blaize Gordon

Smarshmellows, brought to you by smarsh, SMARSH IS KING!!!! 2 CREW INVASION!!!!!!!!

ella thompson

brennan is obviously gretchen. also why did richard oklahoma talk about his lou brain? something isnt adding up…

Emily C

Relistening - in the fight/convo between Eurselon and Suvi on MiB, what I heard was the difference in words of Suvi saying, "Do you trust him?" And getting the response, "I believe him." Which to me is not quite the same thing, whether it was conscious or not on Eurselon's part

Lulu

The music during the entrance of Hakea and Gramora made my hair stand on end in the best way! Iv never been so impacted by story or music before this podcast

Drew Faber

aabria loves Renee rapp’s performance in mean girls, iktr

Nym

I am so glad Lou is around to ask “huh?” questions for me when I can’t 😂

Piper

If any harm comes to Niamh (I assume it's Niamh, because Ireland? Haven't looked at the transcript), I will fight Brennan Lee Mulligan verbally and maybe physically

queer one

I mean, Suvi's whole civilization is literally an imperial force literally trapping and experimenting on Spirits, subjugating humans and other civilizations (such as Akom and Port Talon, as one example), mass surveillance, indoctrination, and the personification of brutal military and police force. I'd call that a dagger in the heart of the world.

queer one

Aabria does such a good job at creating and playing a character I increasingly cannot stand. 10/10 character building (a very multidimensional character even if, if not particularly because, I cannot stand said character), storytelling, and performance.