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The mountains want blood. The birds are in on it. The only way out is up. Or down so deep your friends forget your face. Just when everyone finally came together, so many people have to go. 

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Brennan Lee Mulligan

Erika Ishii

Aabria Iyengar

Lou Wilson

Produced, designed, and scored by Taylor Moore  at Fortunate Horse with exquisite design and editing help from Jared Olson.

SPECIAL THANKS TO: Tazer Army, Shannon, and Amanda Freberg.

Album art by the great Corey Brickley

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Jessie Harris

Fantastic episode, it’s getting brutal out here

Kenny Silver

Don’t you dare touch Fifi!!

Carson Thomas

This episode shattered my expectations.

kuo

Can't wait to listen to it!

bitterbaldguy

I'm a combat vet and that episode gave me PTSD. You are all so damn good! I cannot wait for the next episode!!!

ainmosni

Every time I think I know how good this show can get, you surprise me, I know I will have to relisten to all of WWW once this chapter is finished.

Sven the Scribe

Hoooo, boy, that episode! That better have been a Banishment Brennan....

Arien Crossby

Not Fifi!!! (Every time we hear more about Eioghorain I become more convinced that he was actually a good guy after all, and when that comes back, it's gonna HURT.)

Sean Boyce

I love Sworn as Suvi's XO so much and I'm gonna be so mad when Brennan kills him.

Aabria Iyengar

DON'T YOU PUT THAT IN THE UNIVERSE :(

Lee Cheeseman

the episode just started and already brennan made aabria name an npc to then immediately have him meet a terrible and grizzly fate. i love this show.

Garrett MacFalda

I love a real cozy ghibli moment to start an episode.

The Pompous Peasant

I almost to teh ep and can't wait FOR it!!! i know they are going to be in teh nasty and prolly touching since the empire is for me the one to look!!!

Kael McDonald

Ha, I had literally just checked the date of the last Fireside Chat, thought to myself, "Hm, likely to get an episode soon" and I get the notification like a friendly nod from Mr. Soup.

Erin Morse

Oh Fifi - I’m terrified of how the now broken promise made to them will come into play later 😬

Chappy Hall

This comment was made BEFORE the end of the episode. Brennan is evil!

Garrett MacFalda

From landing a plane in the river to having your jaw ripped off by a freaky silverback, life comes at you fast

Kalunyx

Brennan.. I will not forgive long term damage to Sworn. Sure. Knock him out, make us fear for his life and wellbeing but don't you hurt my most goodest boi ok? Suvi needs someone she can lean on goshdarnit and there ain't noone else . Brennan please..

Boston

I found myself very frustrated listening to this episode with so much of the rulings and numbers being cut out. We love dnd!! We want to hear what’s going on! If not for the public her maybe for the patrons at least?

Blades Dragonic

So was that a banishment spell at the end there? I don’t think Fifi was killed but does anyone else know any other forced teleportation spells?

robo

funny how the whole party got their rides yoinked at the last minute

Annie A

Still very nervous that Ame has not given Indri gifts of equal or greater value to pay for what she took 😬😬 I have a feeling that’s going to come to bite them all 😬😬😬

Dana

That ending was mean in the best way!! I can't wait for the next episode!!!

Birdie

The music during the Roc's flight reminded me of the feeling when we watched Harry Potter's joy in flying on the broom for the first time in the best way.

vaughn

🚨 SORCERER ALERT 🚨 this was such a good ep. can’t wait for the next!

DaphneDawn

Sudden flashbacks to Brennan raging “I’ll break anything I made! I’ll burn it all down.”

lxwles

same! I felt like that was on purpose maybe??

The Wizard Smarmy

the sfx during the fight was sickening, i loved it

lxwles

I GASPED SO LOUD AT THE END and wasn't watching the time so was fully unprepared for it to stop there. you beautiful brilliant evil masterminds.

Boston

No, again the preference would be just including the rulings and numbers in the public feed. Otherwise I’m just a dog at the table happy for any scraps, they could just be plain audio playbacks

Katie Roberts

She's got a fortnight (until when the moon is the same phase as it was when they left)

Jordan Charles

I thought she had a day! Until the moon was in the place it was that night. I need to relisten…

Shey

I feel like Brennan is going to make the pcs pay for their broken promises before the end of this arc and I’m already scared🫣 What an ending!!

Annie A

That what I thought too!!!

Boston

This episode had a few that I found disorienting, the creature that attacks Suvi through her shield at the start doesn’t get a damage roll stated, and the nat 20 inflict wounds right after hit two targets, which I would imagine was an extra boon because of the nat 20 but it isn’t discussed in the episode.

Boston

The biggest offender of this though is back in Arc 1 when they were freeing Naram and Eursalon had to do a certain amount of damage but could only reach it with smite, which he unlocked. The mechanical challenge was cut from the episode for little gain.

Joey Sawyers

These short episodes are making me really sad lol 🥹

Lauren

my GOD have i missed Brennan v. Aabria in hardcore battle *chef's kiss*

Yaseen abdul-malik

It's so damn gud. It's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo damn gud

Lauren

im so sorry i put it there in the last ep the moment brennan described his view of Suvi's youth please protect him :((

Lauren

Lou thinking to find and talk to the oldest tree and the WAY he asks for the protection reminds me just how bad I am at dnd

Sammi Jacobs

That fight had me on the edge of my seat!!!! I feel like most of the physical fights in this arc are gonna feel like true struggles for survival (like oh this can end badly) and I’ll be holding my breath each time 😭😭😭!

Sammi Jacobs

DAMN THEY MY GIRL FIFI!!!!!! NOOOOO

Sammi Jacobs

I also like the detail that Suvi is still apprehensive to trust Ame and Ursalon even after they immediately answered her call. Aabria is playing this character so well (in a sad way)!

Sammi Jacobs

Everyone has their own play style! Remember that these people have been playing for years and have centered their professional careers around APs. You can learn a lot from this series but as long as you’re having fun and not judging yourself too hard in TTRPGS you’re good 😊.

OminousOwl

To this day the intro sound give me butterflies

The jowler

Does anyone know if irulian bolt is a unique spell or a reflavouring of an existing spell?

Nathan Asher

I THINK that Fifi was just sent back to the spirit realm. That's my hope. I think if that's the case and Ursalon finds out, he's gonna have a HARD time not joining up with Gaothmai, especially since that's where so much of his family lives.

Nathan Asher

I saw Aabria during her run at Twenty-Sided Tavern and she made this comment during stagedooring that her dice hate her unless Suvi's being a cop, which I think continues to be truer than EVER right now (in the best and most interesting way possible).

OminousOwl

Not me crying in the club for the love of friendship 🤧

Skeletal Cleric

Poor Sully died so Suvi could get laid. Aabria has pushed my buttons with this character since episode one.

Michael Carter

Love the "back to the future" vibe to the music!!! And I'm only half way done!!!

Kaitlyn Julia

right? i would guess it’s just banishment

Boston

Sure, if I didn’t know the rules I’d probably find such numbers confusing, as is, the lack of them is just confusing. But I can understand that position which is why I was saying maybe an uncut version for patrons? I dunno I just want more of this story!

Lilac_Capital3

The way I screamed internally at the end. Why are you all SO GOOD 😭

nandrusin

I book fell off my shelf RIGHT at that end part and I jumped!

The jowler

I had a feeling that might be the case, thank you!

s_m_i

“What does that even mean, a thing that was not meant for wizards to know” 🔥

Andrea Toppin

The score gave me goosebumps and I almost cried

Abigail W

“This bird has not flapped it’s wings in an hour” followed by the most heart swelling, whimsical adventure music 🥰 Meanwhile, in a very different movie, we got a battle so worthy of following up “the clearing” in its RP stakes and mechanics 🤌🏾

Abigail W

Don’t get me wrong, my stomach hurts, but I’m having a great time on this Arc 4 ride.

Harry Dayantis

Jesus Christ this episode was beautiful

Ethan Green

I thought it was fire bolt

Bingus2277

Bro had lost his jaw and was at one hp, I think he was cooked either way. I respect the decision

KingSquishy

The minute they left this big ass bird at the mountain I know Brennan hit one of these: 🙏🏼😈

Joey Sawyers

Yeah, I just thought they were all going to be ~2h. Getting 2 (main story) episodes a month, some of which are this short, just feels sad. I'm not unsubbing or going to complain about all the time, just feels bad compared to other DnD shows I watch.

✨ Marlee ✨

Gotta agree with Bingus here—it would have been different had Sully only been minorly iniured. Jaw ripped off, 1 hp…I think going for all of the weird apes made sense. Definitely still sucks, but I don’t blame Suvi for making that call. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

✨ Marlee ✨

I’d take this quality over quantity any day. 🤷‍♀️

DaphneDawn

“I’ll break anything I made!” Yeah I think he was all too happy to enact some serious CONSEQUENCES

Sol

plane shift, but my money's on banishment... edit: tho if they're concentrating on fly, it might have to be something like planeshift. assuming there aren't any homebrews goin' on, which seems unlikely :)

Faye Core

He could be banished?? back to original plane... fifi copeium

Tijay Arnie

But we know that you're bored can glamour itself to look like a reg bird

The Wizard Slut

Big Daddy tree boi mmmm. I think I’m barking up the right tree 😏!

Ashlee B

Suvi doesn't even know if homeboy is ALIVE. 2 people and potentially a great spirit are dead. Would Mr boyfriend risk his and other's lives to go save HER if she was captive in the North Pole ?! Suvi needs an intervention, some Wellbutrin, and a vibrator. Go sit in your tower and read a book. Also, Sworn seems single so 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️😅

Tijay Arnie

Yeah literally the moment I clocked Sworn as being extremely useful, I said "this dude is gone die"

Joey Sawyers

Well luckily, I didn't say "man I really wish they produced poor-quality slop content for me to listen to all day". I'm glad that they take time to pursue other endeavors, I'm glad they prioritize their mental health, I'm glad they put so much care into creating each episode with careful scoring and editing... I'm still allowed to be sad that the content they do produce is shorter than other creators.

KG

Day One of asking WBN to invite Josh Johnson to play.

KingSquishy

Living in an alternate timeline where Sully gets brought back with no jaw and is just a scary ass wizard missing half their face. Way to sully the vibe amirite?

KG

I mean... Maybe still?

KG

They didn't ask for it. Homie doesn't know that the family should have asked him to chill, so 🤷‍♂️🫂

KG

So you know what happens when you lose your jaw? Your tongue flaps down like a short necktie

Michael DeGregori

Well, if that was indeed banishment then Fifi returned to the spirit realm, which might count as them fulfilling their promise indirectly.

Blades Dragonic

We’ve seen Brennan give ally an item that lets her hold 2 concentration spells. Wouldn’t put it pass him to give that kinda power to a high level sorcerer

M. Newton

Oh hey, thank you for the direct RSS feed, that's awesome!

Reid Bathgate

I had to stop and take a break immediately at Aabria's "DAMMIT"

Harper

I listened to all of the interludes over the weekend & thinking about baby Suvi while listening to this 😭 pain

Micah Ballard

Me at the end of the ep: FI FIIIIIIII!!!!!! 😭😭😭

Micah Ballard

Literally, I screamed FI FI!!! into my pillow at the end!!

Krisse S

He better have fucking sent him back to the plane he came from so help me

Krisse S

I hate and respect all of this

Krisse S

The WORST thing that's happened so far

Krisse S

AND they've all taken a lot of inprov classes, Brennan taught some. I believe Brennan once said if you wanna get better at dnd, take an improv course. I have yet to take his advice 🥲

Marji

Since the end of arc 2 I've been wanting to be like "suvi, im gonna hold your hand when I say this..."

AsterIsk-III

seconded, that better have been a return to sender spell

AsterIsk-III

How do we get these absolutely gorgeous improvised funeral rites, entreaties to horses and to be allowed to call a great beast by Fifi, the conversation with the elder tree?? incredible!!

The Wizard Sparrow

I’m still dumbfounded I have no idea where Fi Fi went..this is not the kind of thought I want in my mind before I have to fall asleep

Udoka

period!

LadyMage

I saw it less about the Empire being made up of non-wizards and more to do with the fact that the Empire interferes with the workings and aims of the Citadel to get the wizards to do stuff that the Empire wants. Like, the Empire has pushed for the Citadel to be a military arm of the Empire--not necessarily that the Citadel wanted that from the jump. So maybe wizards feel some type of way about that.

Mona Handa

Fiiiiiii Fiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!

C. A. Whyse

For as chill as Eursilon is, I can feel a storm of rage and resentment building. I would fully lose it at the last scene, were I him.

Jack Jones

I've said it before but I'll say it again, you guys always deliver with this show, each episode is a treat!!!

Al

FIFI - -

Al

I know things are going to come to a head in unprecedented ways with Eursilon, but I pray that Kalia doesn't pass before he makes it back.

Udoka

I think after seeing Ame’s thoughtlessness (the lie at the Conclave and the promise to Fifi) and Suvi’s belief that spirits in Umora ‘get what they get’, Eursulon has more than earned the right to tell them about themselves.

oToastTv

I hope to God that it was a Banish spell, and that it sends spirits back to the Spirit Realm or so help me we’re going to war for Fifi.

Dominique Kupersmith

Brennan “I’ma kill that dog” Lee Mulligan strikes again

Lauren

what unexpected kindness thank you 🥹

lxwles

Brennan: name this creature because it likes collecting names! how fun! Brennan, quietly: name this creature so it hurts more later

Leo Burn'd

Calling it now: making the detour meant missing the last moment to be with her again.

bluebluebutton

Dispel Evil and Good makes the caster glow, and it sends the target back to its home plane. That's my guess.

NickSavage Eursulon’s Brother in arms

Oh thank God i thought suvi was gonna wait longer to call them but in the other hand i wish she did so eursulon could’ve seen his family she could’ve suffered one more day

NickSavage Eursulon’s Brother in arms

Brennan: hey can you give me a s name for this wizard Brennan’s inner thoughts: yes give him a name so you feel something cuz I’m about to murder him RIGHT NOW! *Evil laugh

flyingwriter

Noooo, Not Fire Bringer. I really liked him!

FooldiverDX

Duality of DM. I am learning so much from Brennan *evil laugh*

Al

That's immediately what I thought too. And regardless of intentions, this buildup of Eursilon sacrificing to be available to his friends can't last. If he missed his chance in this, I don't think he will ever be able to truly forgive himself.

NickSavage Eursulon’s Brother in arms

When eursulon felt disappointed truly for one of the first times ever i felt it in my soul Also i don’t think we’re gonna check on FIFI (which makes me sad😭) which will add on to suvi not caring about spirits and ame won’t want to leave suvi even after she made that promise. So fingers crossed eursulon flips shit and goes off on them soon hopefully no more them 3-4 episodes

Skeletal Cleric

I gotta disagree I realize they're quite a way from the tower but they did a whole bit on how they have magical reconstructive healing and how people keep vanity scars. He was seared for sure but I don't think he was fully cooked.

Jazz

Me openly weeping: I love this show so much

Aussie Griffin

The Royal Sorcerer probably used banish... not an unfair thing if it got him home. A.G.

Jazz

I really hope you're correct

Kamuraki

That was my thinking as well

Kamuraki

Here's a thought, would Banish send Ursalon home permanently, or temporarily?

Beanz

It's driving me INSANE that Suvi hasn't told anyone about Indri's sky-spy ability. It's such an important compromise to security.

#KittyLearnsToCook

I’m glad that these are a reasonable amount for me to listen to in one sitting, unlike other creators! I can actually stay up-to-date with this show 😂

#KittyLearnsToCook

I feel like if there were more mechanics, then people would be in the comments arguing about use of the mechanics, crunching numbers, and lecturing the cast (at least if other actual play communities are anything to go by). I respect that this is a story first, with some actual play mechanics

Jordan Charles

Well Rasper’s taken the spider…they’ll know soon enough 👀

Beanz

That's true. Fingers crossed they get it before something else gets completely screwed.

irisilmaril

did they mention that their teleportation circle system has been disrupted/sabotaged? or am imagining that

kragonaught

after every episode my only thought is: they should be at the club 😔

GaiusOrpheus

Might send him to the spirit realm but not any region he calls home and not one he can easily egress out of to get where he wants to go. Also, part of being wayshadowed seems to be the way in which his spirit is bound, which is to say that being banished right now, his home realm might not technically be the spirit realm at all.

Cumbia Zookeeper

If I'm Eursilon, it's about 3 minutes til choo-choo train time.

Urte

I’ll raise my sword for Fifi!!

Urte

Suvi risking everyone and everything to save a boy (of all genders!!!) who might be dead already is making me lose my mind. Girl please relax!! Eursolon is going to kill you if you don’t get your lady parts under control.

Stefanucci Mozzarella

The episodes feel short! That’s how I know ✨“itssogood”✨ - in Aabria tone Congrats, ya’ll!!! 💯💯💯 PS: Hey, Lou Wilson: “What’chit!” decorates my mind when a young one is sticking limbs in my face. Thanks, man. 😉 Big love ❤️

Stefanucci Mozzarella

What was it… vulture dimension? Vulture god? The most important thing!

Chantalleke

Oh yes, but also, I love how Eursulon is immediately like "oh, this is about Silver? Yes, I'll help!" It's a fun reminder that Eursulon considers Silver a friend. They spent time together back in the citadel, and although he isn't his True Friend, they are friends nonetheless. And ofcourse, he does it for Suvi too

Kenzie

I’ve relistened to minutes 23-29 like 6 times just to hear the score

Brovura

Took the comment right out of my fingertips. Sister Suvi no man is that fine to be worth all THIS!

Ryan

I know this is a story of, in part, war and its consequences, and Brennan is serving that story at every turn, but this brutality is killing me, haha. It's funny, my first instinct is anger. "BRENNAN WTF NO." But after sitting with it, contextualizing it, all I'm left with is respect! Love the show, keep it up!

Divanté Malachi

Well teleportation ebbs and flows in Umora, such as back during the conflict that killed Suvi's parents that had been a time where teleportation was easier

The Wizard Sparrow

I keep imagining the anger levels of Steele when she finds out what Rasper did. Plus she has Suvi’s memory of the plan (which I know she will refuse to get back). So many unanswered stories.

The Wizard Sparrow

I’m thinking the door knocker is going to come in to play with this whole scene

Dominic Corbin

Spirits with more names are also considered more powerful. According to wizards. I interpreted the in-game reason it asked for a name as two-fold, one to gain another name and thus more power, and also to prevent giving a name to be commanded by. Out of game, obviously the more they care for Fifi the more they feel the loss.

Dominic Corbin

I saw it as Sworn specifically naming Rasper an Imperial toady. However the reaction of the rest of the Azure battalion soldiers shows that this is likely a commonly leveled insult from the Citadel personnel

Pendergreens’ Sick Ibanez

rocs have 248hp and thats way over the damage any non insane spell could do, gotta be banishment

Jonathon carr

I do have to keep reminding myself Suvi is 20 and making bad descions about boys makes alot for sense.

PT MacKim

This episode was so good — I am now very impatient with the every-other-week release schedule!

Moosemade

I swear, if they hurt a feather on Firebringer's gigantic head, I will leap through this screen and lay that sorcerer *out*!

Melina

Suvi risking everything (even other people who can't say no to her commands) for someone she loves and who just told her he loves her makes so much sense. The loss of her parents and her grief plays so well into her inability to leave any chance of him being savable--last time she could only sit around and be hidden, now she has agency and power to fight like hell to get to him. I am so in love with this story ❤️

Dandeleila

Hey I think If you want your questin answered it would be best if you submit it on the FAQ link. I think they might read the comments but only answer questions submitted this way. Just trying to help and I'm also interested in the answer to your question

Virtual Spaceman

Man I'm not ready for this to end yet I'm already waiting for the moment it comes back after this next huge break while they do the space game (Which is gonna be awesome but still)

Jordan Charles

Prediction: the Coven’s assault on the Citadel leads to witchunting and Empire Proper

PocketNyx

See? He doesn't like birds THAT much.

Dawn

Oh I thought you were saying Silver was a "boy of all genders" and I did not remember that piece of lore 😂

Kellie O Edwards

The Wizard Sworn is making me feel big *gonna F this old man* vibes, just purely based on competence alone.

Virtual Spaceman

Yeah it would be crazy to see all the wizards just turn on Ame and see what Suvi does in response

Adarsh Nednur

"Can you give me a name cloak for this wizard?" "Sully" "K, you watch as Sully gets their jaw ripped off" One of the top 5 most brutal exchanges I've ever heard lmao

Adarsh Nednur

Even if you can teleport your supplies, you have to actually have the supplies first. My guess would be that the agriculture and manufacturing and such are the hard parts of supplying the troops. Plus I can imagine opening a teleportation portal directly to where all of the enemies are could pose some security concerns lol it is a good point though. As for the bag of infinite holding, I think it's probably useful to let people carry a lot without physical encumberance, but it seems like an inefficient use of resources to let a month's worth of rations sit and wait in some guy's pack if he's in a position to just get more when he runs out, ya know? Also lol this is a much sillier point but thinking back to Tefmet struggling to get their stuff into their bag of holding, I'm now just imagining a soldier sitting in a room with a month's worth of food and a normal-sized bag and having to just shovel in one handful at a time until it's all in there.

Adarsh Nednur

I love so much the way Brennan's voice takes on the tone and personality of a character's perspective when he's gesturing towards their internal monologue, and it's always especially apparent with Suvi and the wizards.

Adarsh Nednur

I don't think Sully was necessarily a goner, but I think it was a reasonable call given what Aabria said: "I know what I would expect someone to do if it were me." I don't think that was a moment of self-interest, that was a moment of Suvi following the soldier's code she's been trained to follow.

Andrea Rico

Love that prediction, but also, terrifying

lxwles

I forgot that there are names they can be commanded by!! Good point

Kael McDonald

Maybe this is my own misunderstanding, maybe I'm just being That Guy, but in really stuck on the whole key stone barrier thing. Suvi went through all the trouble of breaking the passkey into six pieces for herself and her retaining companions, and then Ame, Eursulon, and the Fox roll up on a ROC. I was like "oh shit oh shit, this whole mountain is going to descend on them, if not for the bird then for crossing the barrier without a passkey. But it didn't come up? Maybe it will next episode? It felt like such a pivotal misstep tactically but they had time to talk to Old Wallowroot and get the horses up to the safer passage. Granted, a whole ass sorcerer showed up, but seemingly just to deal with the roc. Did I miss something or am I jumping the gun on story beats?

Devon

I was ready for their paths to diverge a little bit, they all need breathing room and processing time after the adventures of Indry’s winter wonderland. But I am excited for Eursalon and Ame to get some visual intel / data on what the Citadel is up to. Side note: Still thinking about Ghost and what her fate was.

Stefanucci Mozzarella

I’m just so stoked for all you killing it! Love the in-depth storytelling you all bring to life! I love how yall growing and growing see you on different platforms. Drink Life! Congratulations to all on WBN. Happy to support what y’all be doing.

Divanté Malachi

A door knocker that only let's her teleport to one place, the empire may have many hands but they are not infinite

Marcus

Poor Fifi

Ariana

Mr. Taylor Moore, sir, we need to have words… Starting Suvi’s eulogy for her fallen companions off with the same notes for taps was absolutely filthy work. Caught me completely off guard. I went from happily enjoying my favorite podcast to sobbing in .02 seconds. In all seriousness, I love your work. Never change, you beautiful human. Thanks for making it hurt so good

Andrea Rane

I’m on my third or fourth listen-through of the entire WW&W and 😭 😭 😭 this story is doing HEAVY lifting in helping me stay sane + able to wake up every new morning and keep fighting against fascism. Thank you WBN!!