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Hi all! Due to some unfortunate technical issues, we're going to be pushing Ep. 51 to release on Thursday, June 26th.

We also wanted to share our upcoming schedule with you all. There will be a delay between Ep. 51 and 52, but don't fret; Patreon subscribers will get access to Horner Corner, featuring our first ever guest on the pod: Grant O'Brien!

Thank you again for your endless patience and understanding, we truly appreciate it.

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GC

Thanks for the update! It will be worth any wait. Great choice of first guest!!!

Dominic Ladeza

What do you mean Grant O' Brien is the first ever guest on the pod? In my heart the first ever guest on the pod was Tomahawk and y'all need to put respect on his name! ;)

Peydon Bush

Hell yeah grant being on the pod!

Jake

I truly cannot think of a better Horner Corner guest than Grant. The question is, which Grant will it be?

Ryan Dilks

First guest? But every week on the fireside you're joined by such interesting guests

danielle

GRANT ON THE HORNER CORNER EP!!!

Cur

HORNER CORNER.

Knowtheory

Rock on! Couldn't imagine a better guest for the horner corner. Thanks for the update!

JoelleDFTBA

Deeply excited for Horner Corner

elle

Grant for horner corner is everything I need 💓

Cameron Seker

Grant for Horner Corner? Truly it couldn’t have been anyone else

Jeremy

i am extremely not ready for horner corner with Grant lmao

Max Myers

So we should blame Grant for the delay? He probably distracted Taylor with his good looks

CJ

First guest? But you have one every other week. 🤔

McKinley

Said this would happen. Thanks for the updates loom forward to hearing From Grant

rio

I cannot wait for Grant to go through his tier list of hear-me-out most-fuckable npcs

Aviva

A Horner Corner with Grant O’Brien? Jesus H. Buckle up, kids. It’s gonna be *wild.*

mahudude

Mahalo for letting us know! Excited for it and no worries, we know good things take time :)

Morgana Evenstar

Y'all better be staying hydrated while you're working!!!

Mina Daneshvar

Grant on Horner Corner. Goodness. It's gonna be a wild ride. I'm not ready, but excited nonetheless

Eric Meyer

I'm taking August 12th off work. I suspect I may be in a corner bawling.

The Wizard Scumbling

HORNER CORNER WITH GRANT O’BRIEN HORNER CORNER WITH GRANT O’BRIEN 🚨🚨

gavriellian

this horner corner news is so exciting. the fireside is a gift that keeps on giving

Cas McK

We shall wait patiently

WWMSudoku

Grant on Horner Corner is absolute perfection

Sebastian Moran

Horner Corner with Grant is going to be truly incredible

Caitlin Grieve

I need you to know that I never have a problem with your delays (especially of only a few days) because I know the end result is going to be SO WORTH IT. Keep slaying guys!

Calic Tolentino

I would have not put a bet on Grant "50" O'brien being the first guess. But its a pleasant suprise.

Michael Mills

A cannot miss installment of the horner corner. Also, 4 episodes to go!? I AM NOT READY!

Austin

Is there any way we can help?

TPK_light

Grant O'Brien was made for the Horner Corner but I'm curious how much his irl horny coincides with tumblr horny so this should be fascinating

Sean Q

Grant “I Hate Nerd Shit” O’Brien being the first guest on a podcast dedicated to being a long running fantasy TTRPG narrative is the funniest thing this show has done

The Wizard Skald

I'm saddened by the delay, but the prospect of Horner Corner and Grant O'Brien makes up for it.

Chey

omg a horner corner with grant that's gonna be WILD

Xaj

The finale is so close I don't want it to be over but I'm also so pumped 😭

Matthew Morrissey

Friendly reminder that in a previous Horner Corner, Lou Wilson took umbrage with the phrase “conventionally attractive horse” and yet he played a conventionally attractive horse, ItsaWinnerBaby.

Romit Comet

Grant was on the Katie & Erika father's day improv show last weekend. Aabria and Erika were also there and they did a fun little Horner Corner as part of it. Maybe they recruited him there?!

Ren Challacombe

oh my god this is gonna be truly the horniest of corners (happy for the episodes to come out whenever they need to! the kind of artistry that goes into them takes time and im happy to wait for the stew to simmer as long as needed for this well-seasoned content)

Trent Jeffery

Grant O'Brien on the Horner Corner is biblical

Pat & Heather

Omg Grant AND Horner Corner?!? This is an abundance of riches!!

Noah

The first guest ever on the pod and it’s Grant fucking O’Brien I’m dead.

Sam

thanks for the update! take your time, i’m sure it will be worth the wait! what an exciting lineup :)

Aidan Brennan

Technically they have all been very special guests, I think they are just saying Grant isn't special.

Kristen Huete

I love Grant!! I'm so excited for Horner Corner now

Liv Tealeaf

Oh dear god Grant, Aabria and Erika in the hornet corner? The world is not ready.

Calix

Whew, I saw the notification earlier today and assumed ep. 51 was titled "Delay Notice." 😂 Hope tech issues are easily resolved and did not cause too much frustration! Always happy to wait for quality content and ESPECIALLY excited for Grant-style bone cone! Fun few months ahead!

Jessiye Davis

The delayed episodes hit hard, and are usually an emotionally devastating soundscape. You all are good and holy shit Grant on Horner Corner! Someone get the allos some towels.

Megan

this is actually the best news gods bless you all

Beauregard

Genuinely such exciting news!! 🙌 Always support the cast and crew taking the time needed to make the episodes exactly as envisioned

Kier Oldkirk

Great communication, thank you!

Ashe

Can’t wait for King Horner to cum to the corner 😈😈 Honestly excited about the delay, you all are cooking up something special and it’s worth the wait 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

Matthew Borgard

Horner Corner with Grant O'Brien is the second best news I've heard tonight

Lisa Gillespie

Grant O’Brien??? On HORNER CORNER?? Can’t wait!

Kelsey Aeilts

Glad y'all always take the time you need in order to put something out, I'd rather have an aged steak over fresh. THANK YOU CHEF.

Sven the Scribe

Grant on Horner Corner is going to be absolute madness and I am here for it!

rocket-flash

Grant for Horner Corner 2025 🫡

The Wizard Savvy

The fact that Grant is the official first guest of the pod is maybe the most fireside thing you’ve ever done, can’t wait

Makayla Marie

Emitted a full bellied "NOOO WAAAAAAAYYYY" when I read "Grant" and "Horner corner." Then fell silent to mourn that only four episodes remain 🥺

Taylor Ledford

Wait I thought there was a guest on every fireside chat?

deirdre

grant o’brien? the thought is terrifying! thanks for letting us know! stay hydrated and don’t overdo it! we’ll be here at the fireside when it’s ready ahoohoo crackle crackle

Trap Card

I’m so happy to have a schedule thank you. Also Horner corner with grant o’Brien let’s gooo. I’ve been trying to guess when the episode is coming out I truly appreciate the schedule and all of your clear communications thank you so much

Amphiby

Of course grant is the first guest and it’s for the Horner corner prophecy fulfilled

Jo

Please take as much time as you need!!! Any wait is so well worth it if it means that yall had the time to put together an ep that you're proud of without burning yourselves out <3

Joshua Clark

At first I was bummed out that I didn't get the new episode right now, but when I read " first ever guest on the pod: Grant O'Brian," I started laughing uncontrollably here in the middle of the grocery store.

havvin dro

"First ever guest" yall really disgracing tomahawk out here. After his service in brennans rescue? Shameful!

Sean Allen

oh my god grant on my birthday?!? hell yes 🙂‍↕️ im so excited for the ending but also im gonna be so sad 😢

The Wizard Sweven

I’m sorry, first guest? What about Tomahawk? Dick Goose? Thelonius Rigel? Martha Coco? John Economy?

Oryan Brown

Take all the time you need bbs ZOHRAN JUST WON!!

Sean Britcher

Except for everytime it's the first one.

ScoutHooligan

Finale for my birthday is pretty great too 💜

Megan Flick

Oooh the fireside chat for 51 is releasing on my birthday!!

The Wizard Spwerm

FUCK YES! I love how I found this out through the WBN patreon

Evans Knight

If grants involved I’m assuming it will be NSFW?

Richard Masseri

Wait what congratulations from over the pond NY!!!

Hungsparce

Yay! (Question: would it be better to set a new release day on Thursdays? That way you don't have to give delay notices?)

Spore Zealot

So Grant is popping your guest cherry in the Horner Corner?

darth bonez

Am i the only one who saw Horner Corner and read it in a excited 1970s game show announcer voice?

Aviva

The world may not be, but by the gods I am. [braces mightily]

GC

i really love it here. psa that an episode or two of Grant's (really excellent) interview show, available RIGHT HERE ON PATREON at https://www.patreon.com/c/whathaveyoubeendrinking, might fit nicely into the hour or two of podcast time that's just opened up. Erika and Aabria both have standout episodes but it's all quite good

The Wizard Sparrow

I’m OK with it being posted on Thursday because I wanted to relisten to the last two episodes to get my brain in check. Thank you for the schedule and all the information updates. You guys are so awesome and can’t wait to hear the Honer corner episode.

Aviva

Point of clarification. I believe the phrase was “conventionally fuckable horse.”

Aviva

Fifty?!??!?!¿¡

GC

hell yeah nyc!!! @Spwerm, yeah, me too, couldn't have found out in a better place

Christopher Chamberlain

I completely understand delays, but I hear Lemongrab's voice in my head screaming "UNACCEPTABLE!" whenever I see the heads up message.☺️

Camille Lanata

sounds like they just need more time in general, so extending the release dates to Thursdays wouldn’t give more time because it would still just be two weeks between episodes

Camille Lanata

grant as the guest for the first official Horner Corner episode is amazing

Christopher Tonarely

We trust your process and vision, love your work and will wait for the journey to continue!

Joanna S.

Thanks for the update! You’re doing great!!

Mac

Honestly same, I struggle so hard retaining information sometimes because i'm listening to these when either: A) i'm working my shift or B) im at home playing some high intensity FPS or MMO hard to follow along sometimes lol. i mean... i do dislike delays, but im fully fine with it because every single time the episode gets delayed it ends up being one of the greatest pieces of audio media i've ever had the pleasure to listen to. at least now we have a set schedule too which is great

DressingSauces

Complaints can be lodged @GrantOB on twitter

Vanarama

he just like me fr

Mac

that's fully fine, and thanks for giving us a set schedule for the rest of the episodes (and even if it has to be delayed further, totally get it ;) lol) every time the episode gets delayed, it's ALWAYS a banger. keep cooking that stew Taylor, i know you're whipping up something crazy bro lmao

Aya Rosen

Grant O'Brien?! Is he one of the Try Guys?

Henry Houston

Dear lord how hard are they cooking this one. It’s going to be another masterpiece

Nassim Tanha

No, he's from the drop out and earlier college humor, where dimension 20 is hosted.

The Witch of The Lingering Dawn

No he's apart of the dropout fam from college humor you might be thinking of Keith from Try guy . Grant is on Dirty laundry as the bartender

Sarah S

How dare you insinuate that Grant O'Brien is the first ever guest on the pod! There is a special guest on almost every Fireside Chat! Tomahawk literally saved Brennan's life! (But fr ty for the schedule. Can't wait.)

mads

i think it’s safe to assume that all horner corner content is NSFW lol

Sean Ryan

Lay that mustard on thick Taylor!!

William Heathcote

But will the rest of his barbershop quartet be joining, too?

Shelby Welby

I will accept all delays indefinitely. Please keep taking my money and making things.

GC

not everyone is given to know the Ancient Ways, but I for one salute you, @Aya Rosen (i just realized that bit is old enough to start learning fractions, which makes me dizzy)

Virtual Spaceman

Godammit but I'm tweaking for my hit of WWW!!!

Brandon Carbaugh

I can't help but picture a coffin-sized, glass-fronted case mounted to a wall at WBN HQ, within which stands Grant O'Brien—staring out smiling and motionless ala Buzz Lighyear—behind stenciled letters that read, "IN CASE OF PRODUCTION DELAYS, BREAK GLASS"

Fxd Gear Queer

Could you also post the Schedule in the description? The light text feels quite hard to read on the busy background. Would be super helpful, probably not just for me. Thanks 😊

Kolbjorn

June 26th WWW Episode 51 July 1st Episode 51 Fireside Chat (Patreon Exclusive) July 8th Horner Corner with Grant O'Brien (Patreon Exclusive) July 15th WWW Episode 52 July 22nd Episode 52 Fireside Chat (Patreon Exclusive) July 29th WWW Episode 53 August 5th Episode 53 Fireside Chat (Patreon Exclusive) August 12th WWW Episode 54 (Book 1 Finale)

xelamorph

Bringing in Grant for Horner Corner is gonna be great!! 📯🌽💦

RuviGaPo

HORNER CORNER !!♡♡

Vernath

Horner Corner with Grant… Oh I’m sure (Very Excited!!!)

Mike Ferris

We’re not getting a fireside chat for Horner Corner?? I’m gonna want the behind the scenes goss!!

Evil Anagram

How can you say Grant's your first guest when so many guest stars have played Eursulon??

worldsbeyondnumber

Taylor here: For once the technical issues are not my fault but rather the ancient electrical infrastructure of Da Big Apple Baby. The heat wave is causing brownouts, and I guess my neighborhood is getting it bad, though the ConEd trucks aren’t outside today so the omens bode well. The juice (electricity) is loose (being turned into podcasts).

Miyaa

Hoping O’Brien creates a themed cocktail for the party.

astro

oh no! I hope everything is going okay! tech issues are the worst! can't believe grant is gonna be on here!! AAA

astro

TAYLOR YOU ARE THE BEST AND CAN DO NO WRONG! I HOPE YOU GET THE JUICE SOON!

Dominic Corbin

*Fry holding cash meme* Just keep talking and take our money!

Lo

I will always wait patiently for these!

Dominic Corbin

Reference to Grant performing a sexual act with 50 partners in one evening. Details can be found in old CollegeHumor / Dropout videos. I think the first Breaking News "Grant Shaming" includes the story.

Carlos Torres

I just assume Pro Tools keeps crashing.

Emily C

Time to lasso that juice!!

LuChiChi4

Art takes time! And we are extra patient for it! Stay cool

The Wizard Squeamish

seems very auspicious to me that wwwo book 1 is ending on the 54th episode! that's been one of my lucky numbers since i was a kid

Cackle Cackle

Listen — I will wait as long as I need to. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Short King

I can wait as long as I need to for this podcast. And also, a Horner Corner with Grant O'Brien is legendary

Sadie Bartch

Book one finale for my birthday weekend 🥹❤️ that’s so thoughtful! lol

Gage Herendeen

Honestly maybe it’s good for me to wait a couple extra days because I keep having to go on self reflective journeys about how I was raised every time I think “yeah Steel’s being totally reasonable right now”

K

Thank you we love you you’re all perfect baby angels 🙏🏾😌

The Wizard Subjudice

Also pointing out that they could've rescheduled Pimento so many times by now 😂😉

Alyssa

The anxiety of waiting for both WBN and any election results at the same time was A LOT! But what a worth it wait for both!!!

ponglesmarf

Say less. I will wait a thousand years for yall's(ya'll's?) group. I didn't think anyone much less a group of fantastic story tellers would make such of an impact in my life as much as this. Thank you.

JoelleDFTBA

Im shaking like a chihuahua waiting for this episode

Marshall Koziol

Thanks for the craft, the fire, the thread, The voices that echo inside our heads. You’ve built a world that pulls us in— With every laugh and ghost and grin. No rush, of course… but if it’s near, We wouldn’t mind it dropping here. Just fans with hearts a little loud, Still waiting, grateful, spellbound, proud.

The Wizard Solace

O Episode, Episode, wherefore art thou Episode? I so wish to hear your tales.

Emily C

Gorgeous

Emily C

Hello fellow addicts how are we doing this fine morning? (time of day YMMV)

The Wizard Spontaneous

I’ve been checking my notifications like a freshmen texting their start-of-school crush.

Rowan

Is grant a Witch, Wizard, or Wild One?

Rowan

👏

Clint Shook

This Horner corner is about to be absolutely unhinged. Grant is a freeek

The Wizard star

Desperately waiting for the return of our stories

Matthew Donaldson

Def a Wild One. Probably the Spirt of making clumsy hot, somehow.

rio

I'll kneel down Wait for now I'll kneel down Know my ground And I will wait, I will wait for you And I will wait, I will wait for you...

Vanarama

the Wizard Salacious for sure

Sofia marcelli

Omg I’m so excited, fireside chat 53 comes out on my birthday!!!

Chris Kagamine

The amount of times I've refreshed Spotify today

Kevin Engelkamp

Not good so far, I have zero patience!!!

irisilmaril

I get your joke Aya. You know the old ways.

The Wizard Sparrow

So I dive into my podcast and blindly chose an episode to listen while I wait with anticipation. Is Knock Knock too far back? Well I do enjoy the witches parade🧙🦊🔥🤗

Marshall Koziol

What if they have all been kidnapped and we (all 60,000 Patreon subscribers) have to go on an Indiana jones style adventure to rescue them?

The Wizard Sparrow

At first glance I thought it said, I Neif down😳😂

The Wizard Sparrow

I’m not familiar with Grant’s work but I’m sure I will be pleased🤗

The Wizard Sparrow

Waiting with anticipation and yet holding back because I don’t want this season to end🦊🔥🤗

The Wizard Sparrow

Ah, that darn heat wave is wreaking havoc all over the place. Though in my mind I see a slew of elf’s tinkering and working vigorously to fix these technical issues 🦊🔥🤗

rio

What do y'all think would be a more fitting destiny for Nif: 1) helping our True Friends kill Indri and supplanting her as the fucking best Witch of Wind and Stars ever 2) being elevated to the Coven of Elders directly as the Witch of Wayward Souls so that Indri has to treat her as an equal for the next 200 years 3) secret third thing! if you have a better idea, please share

The Wizard Sparrow

I’m not familiar with Grant’s work, but is there something of his masterpiece I can listen to before the Horner Corner episode?

The Wizard Skald

I don't think that Nif fits the bill for Witch of the Wind and Stars, so I really dig something like #2.

The Wizard Skald

Currently playing Shoebody Bop on repeat in an attempt to summon the episode forth

Laurenthian

It's neat how often consuming media leads to deconstruction!

rio

I agree that it would be really wonderful to see Nif realize that her chosen purpose is worth speaking for in the grand scheme of the world, and it definitely wouldn't hurt to see Indri's look of rage as the little girl she enslaved moves her further from her dominion of the Coven. I disagree that Nif doesn't fit the station of Wind & Stars, however. We've seen some evidence that these stations can be interpreted in very different ways by different witches. Grandma Wren's take on the World's Heart was stalwart and stoic kindness, but Ame's is mischievous and chaotic play, and Mirara argued that to correctly observe the World's Heart, one would have to be warlike and dedicated to the common cause of destroying one's enemies. Tof also pointed out that the Witch of Wind & Stars doesn't have to be murderous, manipulative, and power-hoarding. I've had a theory for a while that Indi's predecessor demonstrated the magic of the independent self by accomplishing Herculean feats like building a giant ice fortress at the highest place in the world. I think Nif definitely has a deep understanding of the independent self, she's been alone all her life, and she's now choosing to make that mean that there will always be a witch trying to help other lost people find their way home. I think under Nif's direction, the domain of the Wind & Stars would become a compliment to the World's Heart, rather than an opposite.

OhHeyJDK

*grabs satchel* Let’s go!! 😂

CW

*Hops in the Osprey* I'll bring snacks

Kristen Huete

Ok dumb question but what is a Horner Corner? TBH no matter what it is I'm excited bc I love Grant O'Brien

Gordon

Horner Corner usually happens during the Fireside’s where Aabria and Erika explain some horny part of the Internet that Brennan and Lou/his guest aren’t familiar with

Kristen Huete

Ooooh so it is a horny thing. I somehow missed that was what that segment is called.

the wizard subpar

Is it slightly upsetting to anyone else that the book ends on 54 instead of 55. It's not a big deal but I prefer variables of 5 instead of even numbers

R. Shawn Abrahams

Whew, keep checking to make sure it isn’t an issue with Apple Podcasts again.

THEY Agenda Productions

He's the bartender on dirty laundry on Dropout, his best stuff if probably sprinkled throughout there

Katie Whaley

Google search grant obrien "hello I'm 50"

DaddyDepresso

I still get chill hearing that music! Its such a iconic moment that idk what i was expecting but blew me away!

ceeg

You can’t even hold a coven with this number of episodes

DaddyDepresso

Just finished my Thursday dnd session now eagerly awaiting this masterpiece. It's so bad i explained the Citadel to my mom the other day.

ceeg

Dear Taylor I will give you 5 grillion dollars if you release the episode right now

Ben F

Again?! They're buying us snacks this time.

Aleks

im fiending

Ellis

ok, so I didn't miss it

Haldon Lindstrom

I'm about to go see a movie about a cop losing their gun and needing to find it. If the episode drops by the time I get out, ill be so happy.

ceeg

Do the right thing Taylor release the episode and you will be reincarnated as a lotus flower

Marshall Koziol

Taylor, I will give you a puppy if you release the episode right now and this ceeg guy is going to give you 5 million dollars. Think about it, 5 mil and a puppy ……

Jo Lee

Let them cook, y'all. We will be fed. 🍽️

Johannes Newman-Gillheim

Seeing a lot of comments here that would maybe stress me out if I were working on this. So here's a message: Take your time. It'll be worth the wait, it always is. Thanks for all the hard work <3

Glen Petrofski

The build of excitement is intensifying you cheeky group 😉

Cas McK

💙❤️💚

The Wizard Synth

idk i dont think shes coven of elders material tbh, but not in a bad way. i just dont think its where she belongs i hope she can get far far away from imdri. witch of wayward souls goes HARD tho, is that smth they said in a fireside or did you come up w that lol.

AlterGerent

have to remind myself it's only 2:00 p.m. in LA lol it's not that late in the day

rio

I'm not sure whether she'd fit the Coven or not, I could see it either way. Maybe she's better suited to seeking out troubled people on her own and just taking the world one problem at a time, or maybe she would be able to bring some great wisdom to the Coven. I certainly think the Coven would benefit A LOT from new additions, perspectives, and turnover. I didn't come up with it, but I agree it's a fire title. There was a WBN subreddit post about what Nif's station should be called. Another really striking one that I loved was The Witch of the Way Home (which has some beautiful subtext given her budding relationship with Eursulon)

Joanna S.

I cannot co-sign this enough. Take your time. Or if it’s a tech thing, breathe. It’s gonna be okay.

SmileyGuy

I can’t wait for the next set of announcements to include “Nacho Sins.” 😜

Mike Bailey

Speak for yourselves, it’s 11.30pm in the UK 😭 *it shall be worth the wait*

The Wizard Somber

I've never felt more like a drug addict. I need it i can't wait anymore.(I can wait I'm just being dramatic. Plz take your time taylor. I can't wait to hear your amazing work.)

Emily C

Can we play hangman in the comments somehow

Rowan

A!

Primadonna08

Do y’all have Dropout? I watch D&D there (over and over LoL). A lot of the same players and the journeys are OUTSTANDING! Annnnd it will help as we wait for the new drop 😊

Regigrimm

But I hungy 😢

xelamorph

Refreshing the feed like a scalper on ticketmaster

jayne

RIP, they didn't make the cutoff for you. but as long as it's still 6/26 in hawaii when it releases i'll consider it a win

jayne

aaaannnnyyyyy second now

Garrett MacFalda

Let 'em cook, this pod is amazing and they've delivered such an amazing experience ep after ep. Delays happen when humans get the time they need to be alive. Let 'em cook. So stoked.

Joanna S.

What’s everyone doing while they wait? I’m reading an early copy of a book on racism in hockey called Leveling the Ice by Steven Sandor—it’s brilliant so far.

Cas McK

I'm making paper pride decorations for our party this Saturday 😊

gramps

Thanks for the spit take 😂

DaddyDepresso

Rewatching Mentopolis again :) I just go back and forth through these amazing series! also, getting into project ghostlight which is a VTM actual play show with our favorite wizard is playing a thin blood mother

Joanna S.

Mentopolis is iconic and indie for a rewatch soon too! I’ve seen clips of project ghostlight and it looks great. Worth it so far?

Nathan Levine

watching the critical role level up for the age of umbra miniseries.

The Wizard Sanctum

I’m listening to Radiohead and writing for my new DND campaign that’s coming up

MeatyTamale

Playing Hades II, trying to flirt with the ghost of Icarus

rocket-flash

Watching the Adventuring Party for Cloudward Ho!

DaddyDepresso

Honestly first episode scared me it was quick pace and jumps right in but after the second i was ready for more! Now im invested!

Regigrimm

Listening to Dungeon Crawler Carl, a fantastic audiobook that may be too much for a lot of people

owlpear

help I read this as Taskmaster and I was like I don’t remember that task??

CW

They can reimburse us once we make it stateside again

Bizarre Little Star

I both love and hate being up to date with a show I love. Means I can actively get hype with other people who also love the show but also means I have to wait and can't binge and get lost in the story 😭

Mr. Threepwood

This delay is my ironclad excuse to not start doing the dishes or clean my kitchen

Witch of Woe and Tragedy

I can’t go to work until I have the episode as company. I’m gonna get in trouble

Cas McK

If you do them now and maybe you'll be surprised with the episode once you're done :)

Daniel Ursine

This delay has left me in shambles all day

rio

Rolling my first luck check of three to maybe have it drop before I start traveling in a couple hours

Gordon

Getting ready to make some chocolate chip banana bread!

rio

Got a 12, so we might get it in the next hour and a half

Joanna S.

omg enjoy! This is an excellent reminder that I have a dope chocolate chip banana bread recipe I should make again sometime soon.

Kammon

I'm refreshing this patreon and my podcast feed more often than I do the tracking number when I have a package coming.

Trevor Sion

I ready the help action for your next check

Chris Kagamine

same. I wish I could functionally go to bed 6 hours early, so that I don't have to deal with this anymore. I wish we could get an ETA. A Late ETA is a billion times better than refreshing for 12 hours straight (8 am to 8 pm)

Iwantweeklyreleases

I’d pay extra for the rough cut of whatever they have at the deadline lol

Chris Kagamine

listening to it while traveling could be fun (if it's by car anyway)

Kammon

Yeah, I don't mind if they delay -- great art takes time -- but I do wish they could be a little more honest with themselves and call it earlier if it looks like one will be required.

Iwantweeklyreleases

Hey it’s the 26th, I need my fix man. Just gimmie a lil taste

Kyle DeGaust

Hey, still 10.5 hours until midnight on Baker Island.

Christopher Dwyer

Ok I am happy to see everyone else agonizing over the minutes, I thought I was being silly

Regigrimm

Now I know y’all are making something incredible and I respect the amount of time and effort it takes to do so, but I have a feeling that if we need to we will riot

Primadonna08

I’m listening to ep 50 pretending it’s new 😂

soph

Kammon

Unfortunately no. If we knew we wouldn't be refreshing the feed every couple minutes.

MoxalMox

I feel like there’s a lack of transparency, that as a fan and a member of the Patreon, is becoming more and more disappointing. Delays here and there are one thing. But having At least one delay each episode, if not multiple has gotten old. Especially paired with unclear timelines. The show is incredible and you all do great work. I come back every week for a reason, however there is both a financial and social transaction happening that isn’t feeling respected.

The Wizard Snack

Heeeeey maaaan?! You got that sode maaaaaan?! I neeeeeeeed it maaaaan

Tzvi

100%

D M

Take all of the time that you need to. Art like this cannot be rushed.

Zoe Dukach

Live stream every Thursday :)

CW

I wouldn't say all that. If they were any bit more transparent, they would be explaining idiosyncrasies of arranging, mixing down, and bouncing an audio file. Given the amount of music and efx being added, I have no doubt these files are too hefty to convert and upload easily or quickly. At this point, their may need to be a reorganizing of duties and post production of an episode. Plus everyone on this podcast has work outside of it just as important. I empathize with the frustration and disappointment but let's not take for granted that this pod has been running thru strikes, protests, a pregnancy, and apocalyptic wildfires. If all we have to do for a pod that posts for free is wait, I think that's doable.

Kammon

Taking the necessary time is one thing, which I don't think anyone would deny them. BUT they're over 50 episodes deep in this series and across the firesides and one-shots well over 100 podcast episodes deep. Theoretically they should know roughly what time each release takes to edit, how far along each one is, and whether or not it will launch on time well before midnight the day of release. It's not unreasonable to expect better updates so we're not refreshing constantly for days on end.

Kammon

The only additional transparency being asked for is "look at roughly how much editing/export time is expected to be left, and post an update saying 'hey it's not coming today'" rather than promising a deadline then waiting until literally the end of the day to tell folks it's delayed.

ScoutHooligan

Y'all. Take a breather, they're making the best content possible for us and that sometimes takes extra time. And most importantly, they're human. Shit happens. They don't owe us an explanation every minute before it comes out. I know we're all excited for the next installment of this amazing story, but relax.

Alexa Ridgway

The new episode of Smartypants is really good. I especially enjoyed seeing Alexis on there

Sean Britcher

My understanding is that it's a problem with ConEdison and power brown-outs in NYC dues to the heatwave.

MoxalMox

All I’m asking for is them to be honest with their community, which they aren’t. 26th is almost here and gone and we’ve heard nothing. We don’t need a play by play explanation, Let’s not be hyperbolic. Every other podcast and show I watch is also free, and takes way more care to keep to schedules and keep people updated when they can’t. But the truth is, I am paying to support the show, along with SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE, and them showing real appreciation would be keeping to schedules as much as possible and being open and honest when they can’t. Not leaving their entire fan base in the dark since the initial delay. Life happens to everyone all of the time. There’s is money being exchanged, the least the could do is be honest.

The Wizard Ink

Eursulon squares up with the KING OF NIGHT who pulls SIR CURREN out of the maw of Death to fight as his champion Ame is about to walk into an imperial city with 2 ink demons and a dream And suvi is standing next to one of the most dangerous people in the world staring down the precipice of magical Dominance in the world The citadel. But Imma be calm and wait(I'm in shambles)

Natsuka

it's still today for another seven hours in Hawaii, we can be chill

Alex Ochoa

Agreed. We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, but given the quality of the content they put out, Im happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, and be assured that when we get episode the wait would have been worth it.

DaddyDepresso

This is a free show we're lucky enough to get. The Patreon is for the fireside, it'll be out when its out and we will love it!

Glen Petrofski

I've been enjoy parlour room. But I am a sucker for TT games

Nick Gresock

Actually, and you’ll see that I’m not a hater from the comments I’ve made on here, when we pay for a subscription to support them we are owed a notice or explanation if the schedule we were told isn’t going to happen. That said, it would be nice to know if it’s not coming out tonight so some of us can choose to go to bed instead of waiting

Kammon

Nobody reasonable is denying it takes extra time for great art, and nobody reasonable is asking for minute-by-minute updates. But there's a vast difference between knowing roughly how much work you have left and popping up a quick post saying "hey it's probably not coming today, but soon", and promising a release window and then waiting until the end of the day to announce a delay.

Alexa Ridgway

I really like parlour room as well. I have a weekly game night with my friends. This week we played Steam up a feast of dim sum. I managed to snag the win by one point

big ducket

Ya'll need to calm down I love this show to but, they know and feel bad about the lateness of this and the any other episodes and are working to get it to us ASAP. I mean have you been listening to the same show I have the music alone would take up a large amount of time so let them work.

ScoutHooligan

It's 5 bucks. Chill. Do you genuinely believe these people would be intentionally deceptive or have any kind of ill intent? If you're upset about it this much, take your sub back and just listen for free if you're in this big of a twist about your $5 being spent on incredible content made by excellent people.

ScoutHooligan

Go to bed. Listen to it tomorrow. What's going to happen if you don't listen to it tonight? The comments here are just rude mountains being made out of a mole hill.

Savin

Ink, you are the epitome of serenity in this trying time... the rock that I cling to in the rapids of the river of anticipation... the recap that I refuse to skip at the beginning of anime watch party with my friends because I enjoy the narrator's voice... you reminded me of what I wait for, that I mustn't flinch away whilst staring into the abyss of time. For this I thank you.

Jordan Marschke

Peace and love gang, there is toooo much going on generally to get upset over our favorite show. Breath deep and enjoy the excitement and anticipation you feel for the episode.

rio

Rolled my second luck check, Trevor Sion have me the help action, and I got a 7, so we'll maybe get it in the next 6 hours

The Wizard Ink

I appreciate this but also I just had a mini panic attack seeing a patreon notification so I thought the episode had uploaded and now Im a little sad

Audra Price

That’s helpful to know.

MoxalMox

That’s so dismissive and weird lol. How dare I ask for people who make roughly 150k a month off of their Patreon to be more transparent to the people who are paying? Like come on, I’m not saying they are being malicious. But they are being unintentionally disrespectful. Which is still disrespectful in the end.

Romit Comet

Sorry you're getting flack for voicing your displeasure. I think I had a hard lesson long ago working an office job in a role where results were driven by client satisfaction. Lesson was simple: people like updates, updates don't take much time to register - "Running late, I'll contact you in an hour" or "Had to call in today. I expect to be in tomorrow but please refer any questions / concerns to the person covering me if you need anything today" would've been the tenor of mine. Not having those just stirred people to anger / distrust / some sort of discontent

witch of wild novels

Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Take your time gang. We’re happy to be on this journey. 💛💛💛

MoxalMox

I am tattoo artist, and communication is key to making sure me and my clients maintain healthy relationships. It’s all I’m asking for, I’m not saying they need to stick to a schedule as if it’s life or death. Just that they should give people the respect that they deserve, and in many cases paying for.

Audra Price

Zoe what did you just send me to waaatttch. lol I’m 8 minutes in and he’s going so hard on being cringy and I don’t know what to do with my hands

GodsOvaries

girl i get it but rn, when the problem is power outages, is a weird time to be mad about a delayed episode

MoxalMox

There’s always bigger things going on. With that logic no one should be mad ever. Like ever. And also, I’m not mad, I’m dissatisfied and disappointed. And I think I’ve said it in a respectful and constructive way. I’m not bashing them, I’m making myself heard, that is all.

rio

Last luck roll guys, let's see

Nostradavid

I am ok waiting for a better finished product. But it sounds like an update statement to recognize the time-line might go a ways. I, for one, am ok waiting if need be.

ceeg

Taylor I have raised my offer to 6 grillion to release the sode take it or leave it

Michael Landes

All these comments about sode release and we're overlooking the fact that they're about to blow the lid off the "horniest" metric with the arrival of Grant

Zoe Dukach

It only gets more uncomfortable MUahahHahAhaha Lou Wilson is one of the greatest actors of this generation

Wizard Soliloquy

I just found out the doctor says I will only survive my Corrugated Ankles if the sode comes out... Don't you want me to live??? 😉

ceeg

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT TAYLOR

rio

And that's a 5, so it's probably gonna be longer than 4 hours and 45 minutes

GC

so, if the ep juice flows in the next hour then i'm going to be listening to it on a NIGHTTIME FERRY and if not it's just fine! i've spent half my life late on difficult projects and nothing's less fun than worrying about the people who are waiting, agonizing over whether to send short-term updates, etc. so i hope Taylor and the whole post crew are happy & healthy & taking the time that they need, *including break time*. the collective agony is a testament to how much people love this story (and don't get me wrong, i'm refreshing the RSS feed itself for minimum latency) but everyone breathe with an elk, it'll be great when it's here no matter what

josepha

it’s 5am, soon it’s time to close the windows and crash so i’m kinda hoping the episode doesn’t drop for the next hour or so, otherwise i won’t be sleeping for a while 💀

rio

"Everyone breathe with an elk" was the reminder I needed, thank you! 🫎

Trevor Sion

I’m trying to be patient but FUCK I hope you get to listen on the boat

GC

🫎🤎 🛥️🖤

Audra Price

Alright y’all have encouraged me to dig in. I’m getting more inoculated against the cringe and seeing the performance underneath. Lou’s look when the therapist goes “you look, incredibly uncomfortable” is, admittedly, *chef’s kiss*

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

quick, everyone tell me ur fav season of D20 and fav character from that season ‼️ i’ll go first: starstruck & big barry syx

Gordon

A Crown of Candy | Lapin Cadbury 🍫🐰

Romit Comet

TUC season 2, Cody Walsh

Regigrimm

The Ravening War, and gotta go with my boys Colin or Raphaneal

The Wizard Seek

You're so right for big Barry syx. Mine is also from starstruck and it's sundry sidney- I am always pulled in by an Emily axford PC 💖

Gordon

Come on Provolone! 🧀

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

@The Wizard Seek i felt the need to be decisive and pick just one but i ALMOST said neverafter & little red 😭 emily axford the woman u are 🗣️

GC

i simply /cannot/ pick a favorite (season or character!) but i've been thinking a lot about The Seven recently. getting near time for a re-watch

Kammon

A Starstruck Odyssey | Sundry Sydney

josepha

unsleeping city | pete

Mac

you don't need it, lock in brotherbear

Laurenthian

Fantasy High Junior Year | Adaine Abernant

Max Myers

Still can’t believe that Grant made Taylor eat his shorts, thus causing a bunch of brown outs in NYC. SMH my head

GC

the seed of the sacred fig?

The Wizard Sound

Just because you aren’t upset doesn’t mean other people don’t have a right to be. Folks are not being disrespectful, they’re expressing frustration for valid reasons. This is three delays on one episode and the third out of the last five to be delayed. That is not normal, nor is it a mole hill. I cannot think of a single podcast in any genre that has done that. People speaking up are the ones that want them to plan and execute better - rather than those that will undoubtedly quietly quit the Patreon if delays like this continue. I’m sure they’d rather hear if their backers are feeling strung along and disrespected. “Positive vibes only” is toxic as hell. Calmly holding people accountable for making good on promises they made is not.

The Wizard Spontaneous

I’m 10000% supportive of the crew taking all the time they need to put these masterpieces together. Things can go sideways too, and it’s perfectly okay to take time adjusting to those unforeseen changes. I just wish we could get a noon update (or similar) for release delays. Drop it at noon if it’s gonna be late, and push it out as far as you need to. Makes no sense that I’m worried they’re still grinding 72 hours after initial release was scheduled, biting my nails wondering if it’ll drop any minute, knowing that at this hour - they should’ve taken it a bit easier on themselves and just released tomorrow or whenever would be comfortable for them. Please be kinder to yourselves so I’m not worried about you. That’s all.

rio

How dare you ask me to pick favorites 😖 instead, I'll give you my favorite characters for each of the intrepid heroes Lou Wilson - Vox Populi Kingston Brown Siobhan Thompson - Imperial Princess Ruby Rocks of the Royal House of Rocks, First of Her Name, Duchess of Piehole, Lady of the Realm, Master Acrobatess Emily Axford - Sundry Sidney Zac Oyama - Skip/Prince Valdrinor Ally Beardsley - Margaret Encino Murph - Riz Gukgak

RaccoonBuffoon

Currently alternating between understanding that both the art and the artists will be better off if they take their time and shitting and screaming because my dopamine injection is late.

FoggyFroggy

Stiff arming 🫷the negativity and watching Trauma Dump With Lou Wilson tonight instead! It’s all party 🎉

Blades Dragonic

I’ve been checking this hourly since I woke up, I’m a day ahead in Timezone so it always makes me sweat

FoggyFroggy

(Take all the time you need… this story you are all telling is beautiful and deserves every bit of mustard it can hold ❤️❤️❤️)

The Wizard Seek

@ bails, witch of what the fuck YLFA SNORGGELSON 😭 forever thinking abt Brennan saying Emily loves things so much they become real. like what a beautiful thing to be said about someone???

David Giannetti

Don’t wanna go to bed. Wanna stay up for episode. Difficult choices!!!!

K

ANOTHET DAY ANOTHER DESTINY

Romit Comet

I like this game too! Lou - Pinocchio Siobhan - Misty Moore Emily - the hardest choice. Ylfa maybe? Zac - Skip Ally - Margaret Encino Murph - Kugrash

Kemp Kornegay

Not trying to be negative here, but it just feels like the biweekly format for this show just isn’t working. People over product always, but week after week of it being late just means we gotta change the scheduling. Idk I know there’s so much work and effort being put in so I’m not trying to complain too much. Just feels bad to have no update and it’s already been late twice this week

Blades Dragonic

If there’s a third delay announcement I’m actually going to cry, I will understand but it won’t stop the tears

Rallen101

RIP fellow EST heads, see you morning-side — if nothing else we may have a compelling Friday commute ahead of us 🥂 All love to the production crew, fact is that hundreds of listeners banging on the door like starving heroin addicts means that this story and the work around it is compelling like little else in all of media right now. 💚

NotSoSuperNova

Looking forward to gasping so loud while walking my dog and listening to the next ep. I hope my neighbors ask if I’m alright or in need of assistance.

ScoutHooligan

I'm not saying I'm not bummed, I'm excited for the episode too. But it's not going to kill me or be negative if it doesn't come out in the next 10 minutes. Or even the next several days! Even if people aren't being outright disrespectful, and I think some (not all of course) are, the INTENSE repetition and impatience is seen by the cast and crew. They're obviously having issues with tech, They're not just being intentionally neglegent, and I'm sure is adding pressure and it can't even begin to imagine how they feel. I'm not asking people to not be upset or not want the episode. I'm sad people aren't being considerate or thoughtful.

Leah

There were unforeseen tech issues with this particular one, not just regular run of the mill mixing & editing delays. Sometimes depending on the tech issue, it’s hard to gauge how long it takes to fix. They may have lost some editing progress and had to start over

Kemp Kornegay

Fair enough. Just sad my fav show isn’t out yet

Oliver White

Going to preface this comment by saying that I’m happy to wait for the episodes to be fully cooked even if that means a slower schedule. That being said, the comms for WBN I feel are seriously bad. They feel detached and unreliable, I’m much more happy with a note that says “XYZ problem happened during production and because of that the ep is going up some days later than expected,” but don’t know exactly when, than what we get now which is incorrect specifics and vague details about causes. If you just need more time to cook that’s totally valid! Idk, just annoying to look forward to something and it be delayed a couples times in a row.

Ryan Fish

Who said we are all sleeping - Taylor is gonna make this night shift slap!

rocket-flash

Intrepid Heroes: Starstruck/Gunnie Side quest: The Seven/Katja Cleaver

Samuel Chambers

Hey umm guys... its the 27th.. and still no eoisode 51.... I dont want to be rude.. but do you own a calender?

Oliver White

I feel like the bad comms are also reflected in the announcement of WWW going on hiatus to make space for Aabria’s sci-fi project. The tone created by the void white background and scripted language made me feel like something much more serious was happening to the show than what was. That video could have felt much more casual and emphasized the fact that this is exactly what the show was meant to be, but tonally read like an apology or goodbye video.

Romit Comet

I'm reading The Secret History by Donna Tartt and every once in a while hopping onto my phone to see if there's an update.

GC

alright the (literal) night ferry's calling. stay well and positive, all. if i get MiB'd and have to listen to Ep51 from the spirit world, so be it!

Kammon

I've seen maybe 3-5 comments since following this post that I'd consider outright rude. The vast majority of people voicing their dissent at the current situation have done so with tact and respect. It's not asking for much that if you're going to assign things to a schedule that you either follow the schedule, or if the schedule can't be followed communicate the delay on the same timeline the schedule normally follows. I don't think anyone reasonable is begrudging them delaying things. Power outages happen. Tech issue happen. Illness happens. Burnout and overwhelm happens. The only thing most people are asking is that the delays are communicated in a reasonable fashion. This not only lets folks know that people are ok and not to worry, but those of us who are going to constantly refresh for the episode on the provided date can stop checking and know to stop checking and just wait it out. We all care for the art and the artists and want to keep following this journey for as long as it continues. Asking for more consistency in notifications isn't rude or disrespectful. It's a sign that people care, want to know everyone's ok, and that they can move onto other things while we wait.

Kammon

Tbf to the project switch announcement video, it was in a way an apology and a goodbye video. If the new project follows the same length and format as WWW it will be years before we come back to this world.

Mehmet

i feel high when reading this, i cannot comprehend the message, i appologize.

Mubeen Khan

Why set expectations you habitually can’t meet? Nobody cares when it actually comes out, they care about being communicated with honestly

Christopher Tonarely

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. It will come when it comes, and with how dedicated this team has been to quality, it's better to trust in their work. We will sink our teeth into this episode eventually, but we need to chill and accept that this might have been something really bad happened tech-side and they're doing everything they can. Do what you need to to get your story out the way you need it to, gang <3

Vice Versailles

Living in Oz makes these delays sting twice, but as sore as it makes me, this show is so sweet and it brings me such comfort. I can wait as long as the team needs to get it done the way they want it done.

Tibor L

All the love in the world to everyone involved in the making of this wonderful podcast, but I would so much more prefer a “hey y’all, episode is gonna drop next week” as opposed to an evening delay that gets blown past, and then another 2 day delay that also gets extended. The lack of accuracy in these announcements just makes it hurt more.

Tibor L

My girlfriend thinks that they should switch to 2 eps a month but keep the release dates flexible. Takes pressure off of production and audience gets essentially the same amount of content. Every other week clearly has become unsustainable and no one should be put under a time crunch cause what we all want is the amazing finished product that these people are capable of— no matter how long it takes.

Tibor L

Absolutely. People shouldn’t be mad at the delay. I’m mostly just upset about how inaccurate the estimates for how late it’s gonna be have been. Just announce it’ll come out next week so people aren’t sat around refreshing all day.

Danielle

What if Taylor’s in the bathroom and nobody has checked on him ?

Bailee Hull

It’s so crazy being a fan on the East coast because I have to remind myself that midnight here is only 9:00pm in CA, so they think they’re still in the clear in terms of “6/26”.😂 Jokes aside, I hope everything’s going well and I can’t wait for this next epidode to FINALLY drop. Something to look forward to!!💞

Eee.eeeeeeeeee

I get that there are production issues but this is the only popular audio-only actual play that frequently has double and triple delays. I think the least you could do for patrons is be more transparent about why. This podcast has over 30k subscribers all at 5$ a month. Where is all that money going if not into making a consistently released show? Or at least into making a clear and reliable line of communication. I love the members of this pod. But this is an issue exclusive to your podcast, and that combined with an already VERY slow release schedule compared to many other actual plays on the market is just too frustrating.

Spencer W

It’s just rude at this point to not post an update. We know they read these comments, they know hundreds of people are out here refreshing all day and all night, some people are so passionate about this podcast that they are damaging their sleep schedules just to hear it as soon as possible, give us SOMETHING. And by something I don’t mean the episode, just communicate that it’s not coming. A post that takes 5 mins to write would save hundreds of people hours of their lives. To the people who can just go to bed and hold out waiting, good for you that you don’t care that much, but some of us care more, some of us care the most, some of us are just trying to hold onto what little joy can be found in this life that makes it worth being here, and these people are the ones with minds beautiful enough to make that joy. Stop lying to us.

Aiden W

Eursulon is going to be ok, get some rest and maybe it will be out after your test so you can watch it as a wind down. GL!!

The Wizard Shell

These delays have got me wondering how sustainable this audio work is for one person. Writing a feature film length score bi-weekly AND editing each episode sounds absolutely exhausting, I would definitely find myself burnt out. They should probably consider hiring more help or support on post-production, surely they have enough funding to do so with the amount of patreon subs they have.

Witch of Woe and Tragedy

Hey Spenc buddy. If you have some love for this story, could you not bring that kind of energy into its community.

Brandon

I really wouldn't mind if the episode needed another month for any reason, but I'd personally really rather that delays were overestimated and given once than come back to a second or third delay. Still a fan and excited for the episode <3

John Mugnai

It’s like watching each time zone getting Gommaged

The Wizard Ink

Everyone go home get some rest we've been through this before it's most likely not dropping tonight. And even if it does you don't wanna be half a sleep watching it. Now scram before I cast a level 2 sleep on the lot of you...

Alyssa

ACOFAF ✨🪻🌸🌹🌺🌷 every character is my favorite, but the Lords of the Wing bits KILL me everytime🪽

GC

@Andrew--these are thoughtful professional people and I am sure they're already considering ways to make Taylor's life easier and up the resilience of the post-production process *for future seasons*. To echo a discussion from last month, adding people to a complex project that's already delayed almost inevitably creates additional delays (general form of Brooks's Law). Some amount of unpredictability is going to be baked in to the rest of this season. My personal relief is that they're not compromising artistic quality in order to get episodes out on time--in fact, there seems to be some consensus around these parts that the delayed episodes are often among the best, quality-wise.

The Wizard Ink

The witch Of The Willful Spirit The Witch of the Wandering Mind The witch of Weathering Will The Witch of The Wishing Youth The Witch of the Wedding Cake The Witch of The Wayward Dreams The Witch of The Waking Nightmare The Witch of the Wayshadowed and lost

Alyssa

Witch of the Winding Worriment casts a 7th level “chill out, man.” Followed by bonus action cantrip “simmer down” 😎 Chef Taylor’s cooking, sometimes a meal needs a little longer! 🧑‍🍳 sorry whatever technical difficulties fucked shit up, you’re doing great!

The Wizard Ink

The Wizard Stare The Wizard Slake The Wizard Stern The Wizard Sand The Wizard Sonic The Wizard Sanguine The Wizard Silk The Wizard Spider

The Wizard Ink

The Wizard ink Casts Counterspell at 9th level twice with action surge

Skeletal Cleric

“𝕻𝖚𝖙 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝖋𝖔𝖔𝖑𝖎𝖘𝖍 𝖆𝖒𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖘 𝖙𝖔 𝖗𝖊𝖘𝖙” Night guys.

AyunderfillVonScotchguerd

I second this heartily. Being able to savor in the moments of something-amazing-as-this-splendor coming to you fingertips for the cost of 1 coffee /month… is a beautiful thing. Being able to overcome your impatience and hurt will not only serve you in the long run in this human existence, but will serve all others around you too. And it must be said - talk about first world problems - lol People you claim to care about are doing their best. Their best may not always translate to your expectations. And that’s ok. This gives you time to work on your wonderful, magical, hurt self (or selves) & hopefully come to understand not only Why you need this so badly, but also What you can do about that need. ie: How to give it the nurturing it needs. Good old reparenting of self. It’s tough ass work - but we’ve all got to do it. Can I get a unique, pan-dimensional, non-patriarchal, and ideally theme appropriate Amen?!

AyunderfillVonScotchguerd

If people are “sat around refreshing all day”… I mean, cmon.. there’s so much life to live! My words to those people, with all the love in my usually depressed and challenged heart: “make some art” “love - cry - hold yourself” “Practice your fox imitation!”

GC

@Evan Bartlett--I don't know if you've worked in media production, but please take my word for it that this comparison is inapt. Putting all other factors aside, I am pretty sure that this is also the only popular audio-only actual play that has original orchestral through-composition and full sound design, which takes a *fabulous* amount of time and creative energy that can't be out-sourced and is hard to divvy up internally. Something like NADDPOD hits an interesting middle ground by essentially using Emily Axford's existing music as an internally sourced library, but that's not at all what's going on here. While I obviously don't know what the "shooting ratio" (rolling ratio?) is for WBN, my impression is that a *lot* more goes into the primary editing as well, so the timing, vocal fluency, elision of less important rolls, etc. also comes at a heavy time/effort cost. My (outsider but professionally informed) guess is that each minute of WWW takes, on average, 5-15x more person-time to postproduce than a minute of the other heavy hitters (which is not to criticize anyone else's actual plays--it's just a different set of choices around effort). To be frustrated by both the delays and the biweekly release schedule seems almost paradoxical. There's a version of WBN that would come out weekly and almost always on time, and it would still be good storytelling, but I at least am VERY glad we're getting the version we're getting. Also, the primary cast are busy enough that a weekly schedule would also lead to SIGNIFICANT breaks with little to nothing being released. I doubt they'd be able to double the number of recording camps they do even if the post-production process was an assembly line instead of an artisan's workshop. Again, NADDPOD is a useful comparison--Brian Murphy famously has to say "no" to a ton of projects because he's heads-down editing NADDPOD all the time. Not so our four players, and the world is better for it.

Chris Kagamine

I see it far less as “some of us care more” and more “some of us are depressed neurodivergents who when given a schedule and others don’t adhere to it, we are reminded of how little control we have, and go into panic mode, with the only control we have to be to refresh every minute….. which makes it worse on us” I would never think that I care more than anyone else about this show, cause that feels belittling. I would however say that for the amount of people who cancel/postpone plans without telling me; I’d prefer that not occur multiple times in a day. Hopefully in future seasons they hire a media person who can be like “don’t refresh every 5 minutes; it’s not coming for at least 2 hours; will update soon with a better estimate. This Ep is a doozy and will knock your socks off”

Alyssa

Sorry, the Witch of the Winding Worriment casts “nahhhh, man” at Level 5 things you can see 4 things you can touch 3 things you can hear 2 things you can smell 1 thing you can taste

AyunderfillVonScotchguerd

Your time to craft your response here is appreciated - but hey let’s please be real: This is so far from an emergency. There are a million things that could be happening and all of them are more important to the creators’ livelihoods than the consideration of someone “refreshing” or “wanting to know” or “moving on to other things”… Ain’t nobody going to gain a wrinkle, get another grey hair, lose an eye, or anything remotely of note - from a beautiful group piece of art’s growth process. - Take the time clearly taken to write all this (and I’m doing this too) to reflect for a few minutes (or at least a few seconds) on how much joy, wonder, depth of emotion, and just raw Awe that this group has given you. … for the cost of what? :: shrug :: Peace

GC

@AyunderfillVonScotchguerd - UP-DN-PAmen(witchily)! @Chris Kagamine - very fair comment; but having been on the other side of this myself it's REALLY hard to handle the comms overhead regarding delays (media person or no) when you're just trying to wrestle the ding dang work down/get the render back up and running/etc. FWIW I think that in the past they've usually updated again by this point--see @Leah and elsewhere noting that this one seems to be driven more by actual fairly serious technical issues

AyunderfillVonScotchguerd

Ok y’all …. (Speaking to the fellow “patrons”) The level of dissatisfaction here is honestly unsettling. Make better use of your valuable time people. If half of us Used half our time Half as well As half of this crew does We’d still only be half as shiney as their beautiful arses!!! …I know, I didn’t really give the hobbit quote a good homage run.. I’ll do better next time lol

The Wizard Ink

Mission control this a mass sending spell to all fielded wizards of the citadel. It has been 2 days 1 hour 49 minutes 22 seconds 23 24 I am out of reach of a gate and don't see an end to the swamps of Ru've if this is my last broadcast tell my parrot I love him

GC

@Alyssa--strong contender for comment of the evening. perfect note for me to go zzz on. Please nobody squeeze the golden story goose too hard to try and get the next egg out. Taylor/whole WWW post crew/WBN as a whole: fervently hope you're all happy and well, you're truly amazing and giving something very very precious to the world, get as much rest as you can as soon as you can

Brandon Carbaugh

They've had delays on like less than 5 episodes in two years lol

JD Santos

It’s obvious that the team is struggling to find a computer that doesn’t immediately catch fire when Taylor loads up the soundtrack. Our simple contraptions of silicon and copper aren’t engineered to withstand this much heat 😩

rio

Seeing the way you've chosen to talk to the people who make this beautiful show hurts a lot more than the delay does...

Just Joshy

All you have to do is deliver on your release schedule. I understand delays happen, but they've become the norm and not the exception. Top that off with these half arsed updates its later today nope its Thursday nah just kidding Tuesday next week. Just delay it a week from the get go and save yourself some stress, the community here will forgive you, but when you boy who cried wolf about it the community will sour.

Whims Wandering Worlds Words

Me: peeking over the top of the chat with only my eyes visible Me: “pssst guys, its the 26th. Did y’all get an episode? If so, which platform?”

Blaze

i think it's fine if there's a delay, shit happens. but an update, even something small like "it's taking longer than we expected, please bear with us" would be nice. it's not disappointment with the delay but with the fact we were told it will be ready by yesterday and it wasn't and got no update about it.

Just Joshy

Its not about time use it's about the boy who cried delay. If you delay something and give 3 different new releases only to be wrong all 3 times on like half of the last 10 episodes you need to start adjusting on your end. Just say the delay will take a week at the start and buy goodwill.

rio

LITEEEERAAAALLY I wasn't made to withstand this much heat, honestly... 🥵

Eee.eeeeeeeeee

And they've only ever released 50 episodes. Like 10% of their episodes have very significant delays, ofte multiple in a row, often breaking their own word on when the episode will come out, like they've done this time again

MoxalMox

They should know their production schedule and how to give honest timelines with it. They have the resources to send out a tweet going “yo, something got messed up, we don’t have a accurate release window, we will update you when we do” They are making over 150k before taxes and fees a month. That’s a lot of money. This production will make over a million dollars in a year from Patreon membership alone, not accounting for merch sales, which is probably considerable considering how fast they sell out. It is a well produced show, with great people, and an excellent story. But that has come with repeated examples of poor communication. That’s where everyone’s frustration stems from. People pay for this show to be made, the least they could do is have the respect to inform those people with an accurate timeline or an update when they don’t know.

rio

Hey y'all patrons, let's consider how the NY brown-outs might be impacting communication

Jo

I don’t care that it is delayed. I get it. It’s just frustrating to be told “delayed to Thursday” and it not be out Thursday. They can just say “delayed to Friday” from the start.

Rhiannon

i’m begging some people in these comments to relax if only for the sake of their own health

Alyssa

Yeah, disappointment and worry and fret are totally normal, but the managing of some of those feelings in the comments is icky. It’s a free podcast (the podcast part, of course) made lovingly by a group of people that are so incredible and it’s not even their main jobs!! It’s astounding to me how they create this work of wonder as a side gig! And if it’s Taylor working on the sound design and also maybe Taylor managing the patreon/social media…would we rather he gets in here and reads comments (some of which are bad vibes, man) and spend time posting an update or spend time continuing his sound design? They’re trying to make the FINAL EPISODES as incredible as possible and they still have 30 minutes before the deadline is missed. We all gotta manage our feelings with a bit more chill

K80

Everyone chill out. Yes, we hunger for more, but getting snippy won't help. Get comfy and relisten to old episodes to hold you over.

Alyssa

For real. Seems like we don’t need the Horner Corner, we need a Relaxation Station 😎

Rhiannon

historically i believe horner corner comes right before relaxation station 🤙

KamasiFitzgerald

T minus 18 minutes until I can relax knowing it'll be here another day

Alyssa

You’re right, my bad. I wasn’t thinking long-range. You have the right vision

Teddy Confetti

The amount of people that think they know how to run this show better than it is run is wild to me. You don’t need to pay an additional $5 to consume this content outside of a streaming service. If you want to support them, support them. If they are not meeting your standards, put your subscription to the patreon on pause. We are getting an s-tier production here unlike anything that’s ever been done in the medium. Before you had this, you were fine. You’ll be fine if you have to wait a few more days. I understand that people are focused on the comms, but it is more frustrating to me that the community is so quick to turn on the people that created this community and sustain it.

Philmeanslove

New NADDpod dropped tonight 🤓

DaddyDepresso

is this a weird type of anxiety we share??

InkedRaven

And Taylor COOKS o my goodness! I am so excited to hear the episode but I am absolutely willing to wait so these amazing creators don’t burn out! Love the episodes and the content <3 can’t wait to hear it but please make sure y’all drink water and take breaks!

InkedRaven

Is there a page or two of how the Druids work in the show? I know there’s the paladin and witch but I’m curious on the sheets for the druids.

Caroline

Midnight PST Patreon reset. Remember the Wizard Sonder and take deep cleansing breaths. We are hollow reeds, all things pass through us. We are also pointy and can also be used as straws, but it doesn't mean we should stab our friends.

The Witch of The Lingering Dawn

I really don't think most people are turning on these beautiful people. Most are just wanting to know if/when it's coming or not, which is a perfectly reasonable ask. We love the work and are eager for it (maybe overly so). But most are both willing and don't mone waiting they just want a ball park of when(People just routine). And for them not to over work them trying to get it out"on time". Most people are just ask them to communicate that it's not coming out today and maybe just maybe when it is.

Luke

Wooof, BROTHER, do not read these comments for fun. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. We’ll get there when we get there ♥️

Teddy Confetti

Yeah, I understand that. I personally think we’re lucky it exists at all and people have a problem with boundaries and becoming too parasocial with content creators. Expectations get higher and higher. We’ve never had media quite like this, so it’s only natural that it comes with unexpected challenges. People saying things like “this schedule doesn’t work, do this instead” feels like it misses the mark. Just let it happen. They will figure out their workflow and communication as they continue to make this.

Jo

Sorry friends the delay is on me, I was too excited for the episode and accidentally ate the whole soundtrack😔

The Witch of The Lingering Dawn

Fair and I agree that we a blessed by these amazing people. WE people are just looking community even when it's misplaced 😭😭😭

The Witch of The Lingering Dawn

*casts calm emotions at a 9 level* take a deep breath in, holds it for 4 then breathes out and repeats for 4 times

Teddy Confetti

I do need to remind myself that it usually comes from a good place. I think many of the pods I am a fan of have communities turning more negative and parasocial in a way that has been hard to watch. We’re so lucky to be in a time where people can make careers playing dnd. I listen to dnd pods more than I listen to music, and I’m a working musician. The quality of content that we have access to is amazing. I just hope people don’t take it for granted.

bo !!!

u seem like an unhappy person, we r all hungry for the next ep but would you rather they rush it and make compromises?? or maybe we just wait a few days and the episode comes out and it's phenomenal as always!!! the book ends in a couple months!!! patience!

Revi Skycrusher

I for one would be happy to have an episode a month, or even longer, given the quality of each of them, so take your time and make something wonderful, we'll be here to listen to it when you're ready ❤️ It's hard to be patient but hey, there's tons of other contents made by these same people and other just as awesome creators out there to keep us busy while we wait!

Eila Graff

Chomping at the bars of my cage

Scarlett Summers

So my thoughts are generally that people shouldn't form entitlement and should reign in your expectations, I understand the frustration and maybe I'm affected by not being in the US, but just listening to it the day after release is perfectly reasonable and work from any media company, especially one made very lovingly, is going to take some time. For a myriad of reasons, delays are going to be likely until the end of the arc, if the editing and post production team needs to be expanded that will happen, but doing so now would actually slow things down more due to training the new person/people and forming an efficient working relationship. If you want to put your energy somewhere useful, you could always help edit the WBN wiki, for example, I know there has been asks in the past specifically to add a full synopsis for any episode where battle, trauma and other emotional pieces exist so that those who can't listen to it for their mental health can still know what happens. Help those around you experience the connection you feel to the pod and create a community rather than an economy of supply and demand.

The Wizard Scalpel

Everyone needs to calm down, there's always a bunch of delays before any episode that absolutely slaps! At this point my unconfirmed conspiracy theory is that they have to wait for Erika to stop hyperventilating before they release the episode. So let's all just buckle up and brace for impact because we all know that either Ame or Suvi has made some ... choices.

Chanelle-Lize

The community will sour…? 🤨 Have you met this community? Do you even go here?

Sean Britcher

Pretty sure that's the Shape changers, at least that's my thought.

InkedRaven

Right but is there a pdf floating around of how the class works I wonder? It sounds so fun to play!

Big fan, HUGE fan

let the process work, the quality only increases when they get to take their time

MoGunz

Ah the balance between being SO excited for something you want it as quick as possible and knowing that the longer they cook the more scrumptious everything will be!! Take your time guys. If you told me the episode was releasing 5 years from now I’d re-listen to the whole podcast on repeat in anticipation until it did 💕

WesKane

Just be chill and wait, the episode will come out and you will love it. As easy as that.

MoGunz

I think the only classes they’ve fleshed out for playtesting are the PCs.

WesKane

I dont think people will turn sour. These creators have been consistent with their care and quality of their work. I think a lot of people are willing to just chill and wait for the episode.

The Wizard Ink

Dear wizard Diary, it is Friday June 27th so that can only mean one thing the plan for release of the episode will next be set up on 6 years from now the next June 26th that falls on a Thursday happens to be in 2031 my tiny wizard heart longs for the epic climax of events that have ramped up during my consumption of this wonderful show. But a part of me wonders... What did ghost do to make the empire that mad... Nevertheless I'm thinking of proposing to the Abjurer Gallani and after that taking a well deserved vacation to 12 Brooks to take a wizard selfie over the dead bodies of the fallen Dreadnaughts. With love- The Wizard Ink

Nina Nachtmann

Honestly, I am just worried about something bad might has happened to one or more of them. Usually they update if they are not able to stick to the anounced date, so this is quite unusual. I really hope, everybody is well due to the times we are living in.

Judy Guerra

Beloved cast and Taylor, do not let negative comments affect you!!! You are all amazing and you deserve respect and love and support. We are here for you!!!

The Wizard Ink

I agree that people should chill but we can't act like it isn't super frustrating to get told a release date have it changed twice and then when it gets changed not deliver on it with no update whatsoever. Not even a hey guys we miscalculated how long the episode would take and are taking steps to work through these issues

Ashley

We love you, wonderful creators, and that is not contingent upon a release schedule (original, updated, or otherwise). I remember the old days of livejournal fanfic updates when we were delighted whenever sporadic updates dropped. Take your time, no rush, take care of yourselves 💕

Kyle Conrad

I counterspell your counterspell

NTRAEGER

Always right on time. lol

Yhip

I hope they're okay! I don't mind waiting, they've fed my souls more time than I can count.

Gabriel Aviles

Hope all is well, guessing the episode was so beefy Taylor pulled an all nighter and slept a deserved 12+ hours. We will get the episode when he wakes from his slumber and gives the final thumbs up. Lots of love and energy to you bro!

Kevin Engelkamp

I have said this before in these comments, this is a lesson I've learned the hard way and it bears repeating: Ok first let me say I love you and it's ok. I'm not upset. But ... A really easy way to avoid disappointing people is by not setting expectations. Instead of setting a date and missing it, simply don't set a date. If you are still asked for a date and there are unknowns of out your control (will I have power, local elections), simply stating "I don't know because there are too many unknowns" is much MUCH better received than missing a date that was a guess.

Kevin Engelkamp

This!!! Taylor you are a magician that we are lucky to have in our lives

Kevin Engelkamp

They mentioned in the comments here that there are brownouts in NYC ... combine that with the most thorough and impressive sound design edits ever and poof

Joseph O'Toole

Noone tells you in advance when you start a new project, when you make it ambitious to this extent (as the brilliance of the story is begging for!), when the circumstances of collaborators change, etc, how long it will take. All schedules are either guesses, ways that people get horribly overworked to try and meet the deadline, or both. We should hope that as time goes on, the accuracy of the guesses around "finale periods" will improve.

Alex H.

They already use additional sound designers, they mention it in the credits of every episode

Alex H.

buddy you need therapy not a d&d podcast

Kalob abramson

Yall love saying entitled shit and then saying “Not upset, all love though!!” 😭 No believes you! You wouldn’t comment to complain if you’re weren’t upset.

The Wizard Ink

The best way I can describe it is going to a restaurant with a food prep time of 15 minutes and being told your food is being made and it going to take an hour and being stuck there for 3 hours with no updates after the food takes an hour frustration is a normal human emotion. We know the food is going to be good which only makes waiting this long for it hurt

Kevin Engelkamp

The performative "I could wait forever" posts are getting tired.

Leah

There were unforeseen tech issues with this particular one, not just regular run of the mill mixing & editing delays. Sometimes depending on the tech issue, it’s hard to gauge how long it takes to fix. They may have lost some editing progress and had to start over, or had a computer with a bunch of edits completely die in the heat or NYC brownouts and spent a lot of time trying desperately to recover the hard drive. Whatever it was, seems like it was major enough to initially estimate 2 days instead of 1. And they could have encountered additional issues since then. No amount of throwing money or additional people at it solve these kinds of things any faster. They were probably hoping beyond hope to get it out yesterday too and are dealing with a LOT of tech issue stress right now.

The Wizard Ink

I don't think that it's entitled to be upset that you were told one thing and it wasn't delivered on

Kevin Engelkamp

Just so I'm clear, your advice is "Stop giving them your money to make the show instead of complaining in the comments" Way to support the show Teddy

The Wizard Ink

I feel like people are more upset with being left out of the loop than anything

Christopher Dwyer

I hope all is well, please don't stress more than you must already be! We believe in you and we'd wait as long as you needed :) Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Don't lose sleep over this! <3

Kevin Engelkamp

This is a pattern, it's not the first or second time ... if you miss the deadline, just say it will be out ASAP, don't set a second deadline for yourself to also fail.

TomBlue8

You got this gang! Looking forward to the episode whenever it's ready, keep it cooking as long as it needs to 💪💪💪

Leah

They said they’re going to push to have the ep release ready by this date, but it was a promise to push, not a promise to deliver. They can’t predict the future. And it’s still pre-6am on the west coast. For all we know they could be planning on posting a delay update when they wake up after someone gets an email that it couldn’t get finished in time the night prior. They were likely working down to the wire in hopes it could still be finished in time.

Rallen101

We must begin to consider if the studio may have been compromised by assassins affiliated with the League of Whispers

Leah

And to be clear I think it’s completely okay to be personally disappointed with an expectation not being met. I think the entitlement thing Kalob is referencing is less about the personal disappointment and more about folks deciding to act on that disappointment by getting pushy and mean in the comments

The Wizard Socialist

I can’t believe Andrew Cuomo, in his last act of defiance upon his defeat by Zohran Mamdani, smashed Taylor’s computer.

ThePob

Adding to the “slow is smooth, smooth is fast” crowd! Take your time—will be happy to listen to the ep whenever it is ready. I hope everyone is healthy and feeling supported!

WreckBadger

I think there’s a good chance the “I could wait forever” posts are less performative and more an earnest effort to drown out the negative, entitled, didactic voices that are much too large a percentage of these comments.

The Wizard Solace

He had help from Chris too. It was a family affair.

Madeline Salter

As the pod gets bigger they will hopefully be able to hire more staff in the future

Parker Mitchell

Excited to listen when it’s ready and comes out! Please ignore any entitled people in the comments ❤️

LuChiChi4

Good things come to those who wait!! And this is gonna be GOOD!!😊

AyunderfillVonScotchguerd

This !! Especially this. In direct response to all the privilege ridden, entitled, and highly emotional responses. Some reality up in the mix.

orange grundo

At this point, I feel like y'all shouldn't have a schedule and just have episodes drop as a surprise

The Wizard Steve

I think that’s accurate. Myself I have no issue with things not releasing on a concrete schedule but what does suck is 1. The feeling that the delay notice is being sent at the very very last minute and 2. The lack of follow up. It didn’t need to be available by the “26th or else!!!” But what does sting is the fact that’s it’s 730 mountain on the 27th now at time of writing this and there’s not even another update on why it’s not available

Adrian Griffin

Any word? No worries if you need longer, I just appreciate the effort y’all have taken in keeping us in the loop

JoelleDFTBA

Two things I've learned: first, you can block people who's comments you find annoying. Second, fanfiction reading goes up when there is a delayed release, so if you are looking for your WBN fix this might be a good time to create or engage with fan works!

susan tiss

Hope you are all ok and surviving the beast of a heat wave. ❤️

Kyle DeGaust

Given the several hundred comments on this thread at this point this comment might not get read, but worst case this falls on deaf ears. Next time you think there's going to be a delay, under promise and over deliver. Nobody would have raised a fuss if you had said on Mon "Sorry gang, we're not going to make Tuesday release this week. We should have it out sometime in the next week but it'll take us at least a few days to get it just right." but delays at the 11th hour followed by unannounced delays and a lack of communication are going to get people riled up. Nobody actually cares what day the podcast ends up releasing on but in the first scenario I described everybody is thrilled to get a Friday release because they didn't have to wait the entire week to get it, the way it's currently happening though nobody know what's going on and you're getting a lot of frustrated responses.

Crovyne

Take your time on the ep! Gives my friend more time to catch up so we can listen to the final eps together (I’ll try to wait for them but I love listening while at work and im so invested orz )

Christopher Dwyer

Glad to see folks giving the WBN crew the benefit of the doubt. They made predictions that were reasonable and gave them plenty of time, but clearly something wildly unpredictable happened, and now it's our turn to give them grace.

Romit Comet

I find strange the comments referring to peoples' frustration as entitlement. Expectations set and then not delivered upon are going to cause a ripple of some kind. They just are. How can you know if people are commenting from a place of entitlement?

The Wizard Sparrow

I always read the comments because we all have the love for this series and I enjoy getting insight from everyone 🦊🔥🤗

Skeletal Cleric

There has to be a happy medium between "It's cool guys deadlines are meaningless," and pure unfiltered outrage. I'm not stoked about the delays and I'd even say I'm frustrated but it's just a fairy tale chill out.

Maynooski

Love you guys, hope the ep is out soon

Wizard Soliloquy

I really hope everything is ok... I was on the east coast from Friday until Wednesday and the heat was extremely bad... I know people have mentioned brown outs and I'm wondering if there's just no access to be able to send it out or even send out an update.

taromilktea

It's already insane that Taylor and the editing team are working down to the wire to get us episodes, rather than the entire season being ready before releases like D20 (and then having to wait close to a year between recording and release, and having still epic but more contained stories). So I completely understand why there are delays and just want to say that the WBN team is doing so great!!!

Skeletal Cleric

It's not about being frustrated it's about how you express that frustration. Throwing a temper tantrum at complete strangers because you wanna hear a fairy tale isn't an emotionally mature response. That can only come from a place of entitlement. There's a pretty thick line between saying, "I'm dying for this episode to release already," and castigating the WBN crew because it isn't.

InkedRaven

Ooo I hope they do soon!

Mike Ferris

The ep is gonna take as long as it’s gonna take. If you’re looking for eps to give that good dopamine hit, NADDPod just started a new arc that is, while as good as WBN, the exact opposite on the vibe spectrum. Hilarious and feral where WBN is thoughtful and heartfelt. It’s like WBN’s chaotic sibling. Give yourself a break from harassing a man who I can only imagine is tearing out his hair at the moment.

GeorgeH.

Look, I know we are all paying every month for the content they are providing. And I also know, that payment is so much that they should..... Wait scratch that, folks we pay a whole $5 a month and this team has delivered FAR above and beyond that value. The entitlement from some here in the peanut gallery is astonishing! My anticipation level is so high because I love every minute of everything this team makes! Take your time my friends! I can't wait to listen!

PriscillaG

All I'm saying is there are 3 episodes of Trauma dump with Lou Wilson for those in need of therapy (not legally therapy) which is an excellent exercise in sitting with discomfort.

Romit Comet

I think I remember one comment that stated transactional obligations weren't being met and that's the closest that I can recall to seeing a comment laced through with castigation. Mostly it's been disappointment / suggestions for how to better approach delays, and stated quite soberly at that. I guess two possibilities: I'm forgetting (or missed) the comment(s) to which you refer, OR we are reading these differently.

B

I, for one, am imagining the fox relaxing in a slightly green-tinted hot spring (bc idk. tea?). He has his front paws slightly bent, floating in front of him. There is even a little towel on his head. (It's in the vague shape of a folded pastry). 😌

soph

someone reply to this comment when it’s out pls! all love to WBN crew

The Wizard Strike

maybe they should just have a few months with no episodes airing so they can edit them all together, and then air them week to week. Like how i imagine most TV shows do things

Joshua

Just checking in, hoping for another update. Anticipation builds!!!

Skeletal Cleric

I guess you haven't been looking very hard. I see people wildin.

The Wizard Strike

It’s not that other people care less - they just have other things going on in their lives, and have a more healthy level of attachment to things like this because of it. if the podcast is one of the only things you look forward to each week then you need to fix your life. After that you would probably have better humor about these things

Sir Zazz

Exactly my thoughts realistically I’ll listen whenever it drops but id rather be given a vague timeline then a hard deadline that’s missed

MoxalMox

People aren’t mad that it’s not out, they are mad that they said it would be released yesterday and have failed to update us on anything. The communication is poor

Romit Comet

I appreciate this! I saw the first ep but didn't know there were more to watch. Thank you

Jordan Bush

We love you and it's okay

Jocelyn Thompson

again, you pay five dollars a month for boco. the podcast itself is free. If you're bothered, unsubscribe from patreon and enjoy the literally free content when it gets here.

Regigrimm

In the word of the grand BLeeM “PLEEEEEEEEAAAASE”

tonytoestep

Taylor was probably busting his ass last night, for all we know that man has fallen asleep at his desk and was too delirious to post an update and now it isn’t even 9 in the morning on the west coast, everyone else might not even be awake yet, I wouldn’t take this as disrespect, we just don’t know enough for that

Jocelyn Thompson

they're coming from a place of entitlement bc you when you are getting something literally for free you do not get to demand it come on a schedule. The people here are paying for boco, which has always come on schedule. The podcast is free. It's literally fine guys

GeorgeH.

Agreed with above. Unsubscribe and wait without notice like everyone else! We get the privilege of updates and yet you complain. For shame good sir for same!!!

GeorgeH.

You could not pay the $5 for the privilege of the updates they are able to make happen. You could wait like everyone else not subscribed and wonder when it'll come out, the complaining is astonishing!! It's embarrassing!!

Teddy Confetti

That’s not my advice. My opinion, not advice, is that people should try to stop complaining and be patient. I’m just pointing out that people are paying money for the privilege to complain, and it seems like an echo chamber of negativity. If you read my replies I think my opinion becomes relatively clear. I think all of our money is very well spent.

Madeline

Really hope you’re all doing okay

Rebecca Chapin

If things were that bad I'd assume we'd get an update from a team member not on the east coast. I doubt Taylor's the only one with the Patreon and WBN socials log-in info. And even if he is, all the cast members have social media accounts that they could communicate from, if things were really dire.

The Wizard Shell

See, that would actually by my ideal way of changing their work processes (in my non-podcast-professional opinion, of course). Personally, I would prefer they have a longer gap between arcs than between episodes... a 1 month wait between episodes would be brutal. I hope they develop a balance that works best for them.

vysuri

Lol chill

vysuri

I'm looking forward to it

Jo Lee

Y'all. Please remember that this is quite a small team delivering content at a high-end quality. It may seem like minimal effort to provide an update. But, when there's a lot of responsibility on the shoulders of a handful of people, minor hiccups easily become major problems that are mentally and emotionally exhausting. This is a space where we can believe in best intent from Taylor and the team and exercise some extra compassion.

Mason Atkinson

Ok guys there has to be a reaction to this other than seething impatience or parasocial forgiveness and concern. Someone missed a deadline it’s happened before do we even have to react lol

Austin

You can do that without accusing the creators of not respecting their audience. It's been less than 12 hours. It's the wrapping up of Book 1. Crazy heatwaves are hitting the East coast. All this context should be enough to inform you that the episode is going to be delayed further.

Isaiah

Complaining about not receiving a product you paid for in the agreed upon time is normal. Especially when this isn’t the first time. Maybe they need a shift in their workflow or something.

Rebecca Barker

DBT leaps from my heart into the thread. Describe: The episode is delayed and the communication has so far proven inaccurate or absent entirely. Express: I’m not mad, but I am feeling disappointed and sad, full of longing. Assert: It would help if more information came from the team, perhaps, as many have suggested, over estimating delivery dates. Reinforce: This will help audience members simmer in relative peace and the spare the team heartache and pressure as well. (Mindful that we have big feelings of love for this story and its makers, and that anxiety about feeling “betrayed” by authority figures impacts emotional responses) Time for distress tolerance skills; ima go dunk my head in a bucket of water and give myself little treats to all five senses.

Cornelius Ukena

it’s days like this i meditate fondly on the words of the affable jess mckenna, “🎵thank you for making anything at all🎵” 🫶

Austin

If all it takes is a post saying "Hey we're going to be taking a bit longer on this Episode" to quell your frustrations then it really isn't that big of a deal to begin with. If you feel your money is being disrespected nobody is forcing you to pay it.

gramps

Shit happens, it costs nothing to be patient

Tanner Nield

Really hoping everyone on the team is OK. This extreme heat wave has been no joke, and with power outages, even dangerous or deadly. Even with power my apartment AC hasn't been able to keep the temperature below 80 degrees F. Without power I'm not even sure what I'd do or where I'd go. As I said, I hope everyone on the team is safe, cool, and all right. Same to all of you.

Park Gaines

wouldn’t it just be 60k?

Park Gaines

I don’t disagree, but I do feel this outlook and mindset goes against the ethos of all the people we support on this podcasts.

Austin

You clearly aren't cool with waiting, otherwise you wouldn't be in the comments whining about how much money they're making...

Romit Comet

Boco took me a sec. Ha! I was going 'buy one, capture one?' - Good point about this not being bone cone and not part of our patreon coverage. I think people aren't demanding they follow a schedule, though. It's that they communicate better, and not froth up expectation. That said, taking what you've said for truth (that fireside has always come on schedule), I wonder if some of us (certainly me!) haven't noticed what we're paying for is always on time, and instead have extended the trend of WBN delays and spotty communication to the entire body of work?

Kemp Kornegay

Yeah the show makes decent money but waving that in the air as a reason people should be furious is kinda wild. The lack of communication is definitely disappointing but repeatedly commenting that they make good money from a good show doesn’t accomplish anything

Jo Lee

Not quite. They have 32,000 paid subs. You can sub for less than $5 on Patreon, you just don't get access to some of the extra content. Even still, $150k before taxes in showbiz ain't a lot of money. So, my $5 a month remains well spent.

gramps

Idk man I joined the patreon a little late in the game so I can't say for but for me the is probably the longest delay there's been and it's longer by a day 2 from there usual release day, so throwing around words like disrespectful is jumping the gun a bit from someone who's "cool with waiting" and as I said shit happens an update isn't always as simple as taking ten minutes when your as busy as they likely are

MoxalMox

They only have a $5 dollar tier. This isn’t a high end tv production. 150k is a lot of money. It’s okay to criticize the things you love.

Madeline Salter

It happens pretty much every week tbf. Not seething, I empathise, one person producing the episode that was recorded months earlier, last minute, without any buffer isn't feasible if they consistently can't keep up with schedule. Its way too much work for one person that presumably also produces a bunch of other podcasts as well, and way too stressful to do last minute. There's no personal attack here, just observation. Hopefully with the continued success of the pod they can expand the team and have dedicated producers.

Romit Comet

Well, my cat had diarrhea Tues/Wed so I had an unplanned emergency vet visit. Not sure if he's fine yet, just gotta monitor. But 'Cloudward, Ho!' ep4, its AP were good distractions. I was hoping this would be one, too, as I have Thursdays off. But I'm on my way to work now, and if my cat is fine by the time this drops, I'll take listening to this from a relaxed inner place instead.

Jo Lee

Patreon lets you change your maximum per month before subscribing to a creator. I've done it on months when my purse strings needed to be super tight but I still want to support.

Audra Price

Hey, can someone grab Eila’s key? 🔑 they’re stuck in the cage again

Jenna G

I hope so. I want them to keep making this incredible content while caring for themselves and their families.

DaddyDepresso

You need to relax, you're not creating this content and you have no say when and where it is done. Simply it's not about you. It would be critisim if you actually had any idea of the situation they were in. And bringing the money they make on a free show they all got together and produced risking the very valuable free time to make just seems way out of pocket and rude. Just kinda grow up you know, shit happens.

Austin

Equating your career deadlines to a podcast that's released for free is insane work. Out of all the fish to fry, you have chosen the smallest one.

Giovanni Gabriele

Hope they didn’t lose audio and have to re-record 😬

The Wizard Ink

Reading these comments is like watching a civil war between borderline para socialism and Frustrated entitlement and honestly it's hilarious

ceeg

We didn’t get an episode yesterday bc we are impure of heart

Kristen Huete

Genuinely worried at this point for everyone's health and safety at WBN. Not hearing a peep from anyone is highly unusual, and I really hope that it's not for a horrible reason.

Madeline Salter

They recorded at camp like 6 months ago, but possible Taylor lost some work in one of the brown-outs!

Randolph McGurrin

I was coming here for the same. Hope everyone is okay. Sending good vibes regardless.

Jo Lee

I'm not trying to come for your neck and I didn't think you were furious. My intention is to communicate that there can be a whole lot more at play than the pieces we can put together. It'd be awesome if they could get a community manager to keep folks informed. That's not what we got. At least, not yet!

Ty6260

What's y'all's favorite soup recipe? I make a divine butternut squash with a pinch of onion salt, chopped mustard, breadcrumbs and boiled spinach. It's even vegan

PandarZanta

Reading these comments have made me fully lose my upset feelings towards the episode not releasing on time. Now I’m just seeing that we are insanely privileged and should take a step back. They will inform us if they can.

Sarah Sutton

If you're this upset, stop paying for a membership, find another podcast. This isn't the community for entitlement.

Anark

I think they've had some power outages, could be possible that some of the work on the edits was lost?

Jeff

I started a relisten this week. I had forgotten, and love, how much of an arsehole Suvi is in those early episodes

Kemp Kornegay

It’s absolutely fine to criticize the things you love! But there’s a difference between criticism and rage baiting in the comments.

Tanner Nield

Mine is Cajun 15 bean soup. Spicy beans, andouille sausage, maybe ham, collard greens. And if you're feeling really adventurous a little scoop of potato salad right in the bowl to help temper the spice. You could easily make it vegan or vegetarian, it'd be just as good.

Ty6260

You can never have too many beans in ur soup it's true

Abacus

“If they can” is crazy. Providing an update isn’t some life or death event

Kristen Huete

I know they've had power outages but all of them have phones right? Someone could post an update, post on bluesky or even Instagram with a one line "sorry we're having issues we'll publish next week". But the complete silence from everyone is seriously worrying me.

Tanner Nield

I am guilty of adding beans to just about anything. I really don't think you can have too many beans in your life, full stop.

The Wizard Ink

The Wizard Socialist And The Witch of winding and worriment Are competing for the best names I've seen in these comments step it up wizards witches and wild ones Honorable mention to the Wizard Steve

katnotkitty

I've made a really solid tomato soup with fresh tomatoes, onions, and spices! Get an immersion blender in there and a couple hours of a good, good simmer....ooooo baby ✨️

Alyssa

Might I suggest everyone use their free time and anxious energy while waiting for the episode drop and channel it into calling your elected officials??? ☎️ Scripts and numbers available from 5calls, website or app! 📱

Madeline Salter

Everything is going to be okay. I'm sure they're fine. Try not to stress yourself so much over this, maybe do something like watching your favourite movie to distract yourself if it's really overwhelming right now x

The Wizard Ink

I can't help but wonder if his name was Steve before he got his name cloak and when they told him he had to get one he was like but I really like being called steve

Tanner Nield

Making fresh tomato soup from my garden was a life changing experience. Everyone should taste homemade tomato soup made from garden tomatoes at least once in their life.

PandarZanta

So you’re saying that they couldn’t be in some emergency that is actually the reason they are even thinking about the pod? Not only that but they also are putting out the show with music that is made separately for each edit and specific sounds created by the team for each interaction that always amazes us. This podcast is much higher end than a lot and also much more complicated to make because its so personalized. So yeah “If they can” is reasonable. I have no idea whats happening in their lives right now. All i know is i’ve never listened to a more amazing podcast in my life and i know for what they do, it takes time.

The Wizard Sparrow

Here’s my two cents: it’s 11:30 AM CST and if I remember correctly the production team is on the west coast, which is 2 hours behind. I’m not a morning person but this team has probably working long hours to get this program posted, and heaven forbid they take a break to refocus or grab some coffee. Plus, too many people in our society have a “Fast Food” mentality. Give them time to work. Personally I’m listening to back episodes, yeah it’s my 3rd time through but I swear, I always find something I missed. 🦊🔥🤗

Wizard Soliloquy

What makes you think we're entitled to that??? They all have other jobs... I would imagine they have a lot of things they need to focus on and if the Brown outs attracted WBN, they probably affected those other projects as well

Isaiah

Taking a break when you’re 2 days late would be an interesting choice.

DaddyDepresso

Whats something you missed the first time which got you coming back around? For me it was the Cosmology? i didn't understand but coming back it's so fun and cool and really wanna run a Umora game now!

Madeline Salter

Ok Steve is hilarious 😂 I'll take the wizard Silly

snobe

o snap Grant's coming on the show?

Madeline Salter

Production is on the East coast isn't it? That's why they mentioned NY brown-outs right?

Christopher Dwyer

I wonder if they've reached the point where they're like "The next post we make has to just be the episode"

The Wizard Ink

Ok so after a cursory read through the arguments on both side is "We aren't mad we just want an update to quell our worries." "Is Taylor okay?" "You guys asking for an update are so entitled." And " OMG WE LOVE YOU" All valid opinions to have but the flaws in each are. They might not be able to give an update the nation with the heatwave has experienced widespread brownouts and blackouts In some cases there is entitlement but everyone asking for an update isn't entitled most are just anxious and unrested give them grace It's okay to appreciate the people who make great art but y'all gotta take a chill pill sometimes man

gramps

To run a game in Umora is a dream of mine right now it's just so unique I now we're probably a ways off from it but I hope they release a setting book or pdf when they get further along with the world ink ownthere is a lot more bren an wants to do still

The Wizard Ink

And best wishes to Taylor's health and safety

Regigrimm

No, we are not impure we just couldn’t get enough kittens, 6 grillion was enough but only two fluffers? We can do better for a sacrifice to the almighty Taylor

Madeline Salter

Hell yeah dude. In the corner when we needed him most

The Wizard Startle

Agree— it’s just hard to be anticipating something! It’ll show up when it shows up but it doesn’t feel great to just be waiting around because someone told you to expect it around that time.

astro

Ooooh I came up with a bunch of wizard names, let me get my list! wizard stalk wizard subtle wizard spoil wizard serve wizard suave wizard spice wizard space wizard stain wizard saint (sounds like a secret cleric lol) wizard sage wizard seal WIZARD SALAD! wizard sigh wizard scam (sounds like a rogue) wizard skulk (maybe more roguish!) wizard sulk the wizard scheme (totally not a bad guy!) the wizard shit (lowest ranking S name before they make you pick a different letter) wizard shade wizard Simon (lol) wizard stream wizard sparkle (magical girl!)

Madeline Salter

No one is saying the work isn't hard, it's greatly appreciated, as is mentioned in every fireside chat and in every comment section. But just like a waiter that hasn't brought the food you ordered for 1hour and a half, not just once but every week you visit, no one should personally blame or attack her, but one thing is clear, the restaurant is either understaffed or time/resources aren't being spent wisely and something needs to change. It's just an observation /shrug/

The Wizard Ink

The Wizard Simon only knows spells that order someone to do something Suggestion, Command, Dominate person Geas and all the power words

The Wizard Snack

First, I wish the WBN team health and safety and to prioritize their lives over what is ultimately just a podcast. Second, anyone got any fun S names? Mine: The Wizard Spank :P

The Wizard Stoke

Communication and expectations. Everyone in a relationship (parasocial, intimate, professional and otherwise) deserves clarity about expectations and communication. Something about the expectations and communication concerning the production and delivery of this show is consistently dysfunctional.

The Wizard Spontaneous

“Consistently dysfunctional”? Get over yourself. The delivery is so timely every week that we’ve been conditioned to expect that will continue. So much so that this entire comments section is FILLED with people are fiending for it like a drug addict low on supply. I agree that they should’ve sent more timely updates about the delay, but any other critique here is just exaggerated and unwarranted.

The Wizard Ink

The Wizard Sheer The Wizard Sore The Wizard Shine The Wizard Soliloquy The Wizard Spartan The Wizard Surge (I like dis one) The Wizard Sketch The Wizard Spin The Wizard Scarce The Wizard Sunder The Wizard Stark

AliceH

These are high art but also make me so uncomfortable that I have to watch in 5min chunks! It's ✨️incredible✨️

Kelly Kunze

If you’re antsy for some WBN to listen to, maybe go back and listen through some of the Children’s Adventure? The crew is making a podcast. I repeat: A podcast. They are not delivering the news. It’s entertainment. And they have families/children/individual lives with wants and needs/whole other careers they are trying to balance simultaneously with this. I don’t think a single patron can argue that this show does not deliver their money’s worth. Not being kept up to date is not the end of the world. We will all be okay. No matter when this comes out.

Duncan Haldane

Shipping the Wizard Spank and the Wizard Sore

MoxalMox

Your reaction to a relatively gentle criticism is exaggerated and unwarranted.

Kyle DeGaust

Ya it's frustrating. I'm a hair more frustrated realizing that with the 33k paid patreon members means they are bringing in at a minimum ~$130k a month for this podcast. I expect a little more communication wise from a business of that size.

Kemp Kornegay

The second half of chapter 4 has consistently delayed 1 or 2 days each time. The aggression from you towards a very valid point is giving parasocial relationship energy. We all love this show, but people are allowed to point out an obvious lack in communication

Kyle DeGaust

Something else to keep in mind, this podcast is bringing in a minimum of ~$130k a month right now from it's ~33k members. I think it's fair to expect better communication from a business of that size on the products they are releasing.

The Wizard Ink

Wizard names don't just have to be S names you Know Keen has A K in his name cloak the S names are just reserved for those who believe they are above the rest. I like The Wizard Eon The Wizard Diamond The Wizard Mantle The Wizard Reality The Wizard Danger The Wizard Zircon The Wizard Trench The Wizard Blaze The Wizard Verdant As non s name cloaks

The Wizard Ink

Regardless of the money I think it's best to keep in the front of your mind that behind this business model transactional relationship there are people with lives and priorities and these people treat us otherwise very well. That gets them the benefit of the doubt from me at least

NightBorne sorcerer of freedom

Are we entitled? I think an update would help. I would even be fine if they said no episode till Tues next week. Uncertainty is what's made folks like myself anxious. I hope everyone is safe and sound.

Leah

It’s out!

ceeg

IT HAPPENED

The Wizard Stoke

To anyone feeling consitently let down and dog piled upon for wanting better...I think it is OK for you to expect people to do what they say. It is OK to express frustration when they dont. Your expectations are reasonable given the relationship and the information communicated. But expectations may need to be amended. I dont think you are fiending like an addict. You are expecting something you love to treat you well.

Bern

Everyone on the WBN team, please know you have so much more love and support than anything else. We can wait for a story told. What we want is your health/mental health/emotional well being to take first priority ALWAYS. You bring us all so much love and light through this medium please know that YOU ALL are the best part of that. Not what you have created but you yourselves. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Please take care no matter how long it takes.

Agricatis

Name cloaks are exclusively S names. Even non-S name cloaks are words in dead languages that, if translated to imperial, are words that start with S, and that's reserved for Abjurors. Keen doesn't even have a name cloak, as name cloaks are reserved for citadel wizards, and Keen was a guild mage of the Glass Coronet.

The Wizard Ink

I recall Brennan specifically saying keen learns what his name cloak means

Breck

HELL YEAH, thank you guys!!!

Moss V

Thank you so much for writing this out. I spent a good two hours trying to figure out how to say anything close to this, before giving up.

B

The wizard Spore The wizard Sniffles the wizard Sachet the wizard Snooze

Kat

this was worth the wait & im still trying to pick up my jaw off the floor thank u WBN team

The Wizard Sanctum

Does anyone know where they pull the questions from for the fireside?

Felix

they have a link in their FAQ to the form for questions

Ryan Higgins

Is this fee content? Are they going to upload this no matter what? Real question.

Johannes Newman-Gillheim

Name cloaks in the citadel specifically are S names. Other wizards also have cloaks.

Sofia marcelli

The episodes of the actual show are free, the Fireside chats and Horner Corner require a Patreon subscription

D M

@Kammon: I see your point and respectfully disagree. We are accustomed to products being manufactured and dished out in a certain way, I get that. This is different. It's special. It's ready when it's ready. If you're constantly refreshing, then I'd suggest focusing on other things in life.

Ren Dara

Pretty sure production is west coast since “camp” seems close enough to their neighborhoods and they’ve all mentioned LA neighborhoods on the pod. Maybe NYC came up because various cast members end up in NYC for work. I know Erika and Aabria were here a while ago as the guest stars for the D&D Tavern live experience and Brennan and Lou for D20 stuff. I’m sure there’s just work that pulls them to NYC. Tangential but that commute is fucking brutal. I never look forward to a flight from coast to coast especially for a short gig that’s gonna put me back on that flight before I fix whatever sitting that long has done to my back! Just wanna say, the fact that we get such quality from an artistic team that hold so many projects in the air is mind blowing.

daryl evans

BUT WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?! No seriously, is Book 2 same babies we've come to know and love or new ones?