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Ep. 137 IT'S A LONG WAY TO HEAVEN w/ D. E. (Patreon)

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THE god OF ROCK: A Christian Perspective of Rock Music (1982) by Michael K. HaynesUnworldly Sounds (2025) curated by D. E.with D. E. (@UnworldlySounds) This episode of Bistro Californium concerns the troubled relationship between Christianity and rock music, explored through a dialogue between Michael K. Haynes polemical anti-rock 'n' roll text THE god OF ROCK from 1982, and the strange world of underground Christian music as curated by D. E. in his youtube playlist project Unworldly Sounds (youtube.com/@UnworldlySounds).D. E. describes Unworldly Sounds as "a series of carefully created mixes meant to induct the listener into Christian music's most unique and overlooked output. It focuses heavily on the 80s cassette underground and the 90s world of Tooth & Nail/ Cornerstone etc, whilst also throwing in classical, folk, country, jazz, world music, and unclassifiable internet finds."This episode is published with thanks to Jeani Bond for her own invaluable efforts in archiving and preserving underground Christian music."Christians are in a full-scale war, and many do not even know it. People are being oppressed by spells, hexes, and hypes, and are almost totally ignorant of what is happening. Satan and his hosts have tremendous power. They 'hypnotize,' dupe, and deceive countless numbers of young people through the vehicle of ROCK MUSIC."- THE GOD of ROCK, Michael K. Haynes"It's a long way to heaven- I don't think we're gonna make it"- The Children of Sunshine

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The way Adventure Time kept getting brought up unlocked a memory for me from middle school, where in the transition between the church service and sunday school, I'd rush to the church basement where highschool and middleschool met. There a big tv that had recently been donated that had access to cable. I didn't have cable at home, so this was the only way I could watch new episodes of Adventure Time, through on demand. Since I was always the first one down there, it just became a sort of ritual before sunday school for better or worse. One time we all tried watching something else but it didnt work everybody went back to actually socializing and play foosball or pool or something. Thats to say there might be something to those early episodes, but they're very rough to sit through when trying to rewatch them. Like the magic was purely for that initial airing. The Adventure Time crew used to post storyboards of entire episodes before they aired in their on production blog that I checked constantly. That's why I was often eager to see new episodes when they came out. There was a really cool episode that Doug Tennapel drew called the Glorriors that I was always excited for when it would air...only for it to never air. Doug Tennapel is an out spoken christian conservative, so its completely unthinkable now that the creator of Adventure Time, Pen Ward and the creator of Steven Universe, Rebecca Sugar really admired Tennapel and would often ask for his advice at conventions. I've only heard Tennapel had only good things to say about briefly working on Adventure Time. I do think comparing Adventure Time to Morel Orel is very apt because its more or less the same type of crowd and even related friend groups making those two shows. Starburns Industries made Morel Orel and went on to make Rick and Morty. Before he voiced the character Lemongrab, Justin Roiland's House of Cosbys was an inspiration for Ward when he was in art school, so there didn't need to be a takeover, but I do think of when the production blog effectively deleted this small community that had formed so the site could work around Tumblr as a sort of shift. While Fred Seibert, the ceo of the production company that picked up Adventure Time, and even funded nickelodeon pilot was a seed investor for Tumblr, but I still feel Tumblr hijacked the identity and general trajectory of the show as compared to the pilot. It just became the sensibility that the show was beholden to so it could keep selling. In Adventure Time storyboard artists write and draw the episode based on an outline that they themselves sometimes pitched. In Jesse Moynihan's case, he kept working out this one incident where he ran into his ex-girlfriend, from a long term serious relationship, at a Magma show. The incident triggered this spiral he went on for a while. He kept using this one character Magic Man who was supposed to just be a one-off to work out his personal issues. He wrote a song about it with his band Make A Rising called Astral Light where he sings "I made a show I wonder if she saw it, I let my drawings talk to her". Funny enough the member singing the first part of that song is Brandon Beaver who joined former tooth and nail band mewithoutYou when Daniel Smith from Danielson Familie was producing them. Anyways, Moynihan has since been ambivalent towards that being such a good idea for him to workout his issues through the character. I think it led to interesting results but I understand the distaste people have towards it. Moynihan was often willing to go to 4chan back in the day to engage with people as he wanted to get the harshest criticsm, so he's well aware of how it was recieved. He wasn't anonymous himself, and knew that anonymous people would be willing to be ruthless. To my mind Jesse Moynihan and Tom Herpich were the most interesting artists on the show to me. Although I dont care for the episodes they did together as they worked better with their respective storyboard partners. Episodes that come to mind for Moynihan are Sky Witch, Is That You ,Betty, where you see two big inspirations for Moynihan: CS Lewis and Alejandro Jodorowsky as the character Bella Noche is inspired by Alcasan and Death is inspired by the Alchemist in The Holy Mountain albeit abit tumblrified. The sequel You Forgot Your Floaties where you see aspects of Holy Mountain again, but with that episode Moynihan was thinking more of Jean Cocteau and also Tarkovsky's Mirror. Tom Herpich's influences and tastes are a bit more mysterious to me. I first found out about Robinson Crusoe through a short comic adaptation of it he did and I believe I first heard about Book of the New Sun from him. With Herpich I recommend Hall of Egress, Dentist, Mysterious Island, Evergreen, and Temple of Mars. I also really recommend Masaaki Yuasa's episode Food Chain as a general pallete cleanser to what Adventure Time has become to be known as.