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Λούκιος φίλοις χαίρειν!Ever since I read somewhere that Attic's declension for υἱός was different than the textbooks' regularized 2nd declension model, I've been confounded at finding an authoritative source who might declare the "true" Attic paradigm of this noun. In my frustration, I decided to make use of TLG and learn the answer for myself. After a few hours of work I have collected the data and analyzed the results. See the linked Google Sheet to see the statistics, and my tentative answer!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nF4GgdupAS0uPMTcumz2buoVdGOZk_vKzPAuKfJnRsQ/edit?usp=sharing

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υἱός Attic declension

Problem: υἱός is often taught in textbooks according to a regular 2nd declension, while the Classical Attic authors appear to use a 3rd declension based on the hypothetical paradigm of υἱύς;

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Vincent Jorgensen

I had this question in the back of my head yesterday! Thanks!

Luke Amadeus Ranieri

I’m delighted then by the good timing! Chapter 17 of Thrasymachus appropriately has υἱεῖ, which I was rendering for Thrasymachus’ Catabasis this morning; the book tends to favor Classical Attic forms but not always, so I wanted to discover the *real* answer. As you can see, the entire 2nd declension regularized paradigm exists among those authors, but is rare enough to include the mixed paradigm in one’s studies, if merely to inoculate oneself to the weirdness of it.

Darran MacMaghnusa

I've had to do something similar when teaching certain nouns in Modern Irish, i.e. statistical analysis of authors quoting sufficiently frequent alternates like you mention in lines 87-88. Helpful for students, plus in some cases I have to know the *real* answer as you said :)

Luke Amadeus Ranieri

Thanks, Darran! My utmost respect to you for sustaining and promoting the beautiful language of Éire!