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Assistance requested! Could you help me check for typographical errors in the newest episode of Ancient Greek in Action? (Patreon)

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2021-04-15 22:57:59
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Hello, my dear patrons! The next episode of Ancient Greek in action is complete, but I need your help. For previous uploads I have had a few folks help me ensure the videos are free of typographical errors and all spelled correctly, but inevitably, even after hours of careful examination, we miss one or two, and then I have had to delete the uploaded video from YouTube and fix the episode to upload it again. (This happened three times last week!)

Therefore I would like you to take a look at ep.12 which is currently Unlisted on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/8O99ISmk2coNo matter your experience level, you will be able to help! In fact beginners have been amongst the most helpful in spotting seemingly totally obvious typos, because more experienced readers have a tendency to rush through the text even while editing, and not notice typographical errors.Here are the kinds of spelling errors that I have been missing until its too late:

Τίνες εἰσιν

(no accent on the final syllable of εἰσίν, due to enclitic accent rules)

δαρκύ̄ει instead of δακρύ̄ει

ποταμὸς ἐστιν instead of ποταμός ἐστιν

μικρός instead of μῑκρός  (missing macron)

etc.

It has always been a great surprise to me and those looking at these videos prior to their being published that we let slip these errors, because they seem so obvious. Thus my hope is that, by engaging the assistance of very many of you, if this episode has any typos I have missed, that together we can find them before I make the video public.If you find a typo, you can respond here or comment directly on the video.And if it turns out there are no typos, then I'll be able to publish this upload of the video around midday (New York City time) tomorrow (Friday).

Thank you so much for your help! I am deeply grateful.

LukeP.S. This episode will arm the student to be able to read Athenaze chapter one with no need for any glosses or translation, or even pictures. It has taken almost all of my time for the past week to make this video, which is why I have been missing a few regular series here on Patreon. I'm very sorry for that! I'll be catching up with those soon. Thanks so much for your help and understanding. 😊

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Master of Egypt | Ancient Greek in Action! ep. 12

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Comments

Jeffrey Willson

I'm halfway through; very nice so far. I found this sentence slightly strange, at 14:59: ὁ τῶν δούλων δεσπότης ἐστίν. It wants οὗτος or a noun phrase to mark the change of subject, I think. It took me a while to puzzle this one out. My first reaction was, where’s the predicate? is the ἐστίν existential? But that would be τοῖς δούλοις δεσπότης ἐστίν or some such. 15:10 misplaced accent, should be ταχέως

Jeffrey Willson

24:49 This one’s a bit confusing. If the meaning is simply likes/loves, then the image is misleading; if the meaning is kiss, I would expect some qualifier: φιλεῖ κατὰ τὸ στόμα, καταφιλεῖ, φιλεῖ τοῖς στόμασι (or τῷ στόματι idk).

Luke Amadeus Ranieri

Thanks for the comment! This is quite deliberate. I'm assuming you've seen the previous videos where the meaning of "kiss" and "love" is clearly represented as being the verb φιλεῖ for both. So the student will understand "the beautiful woman kisses the handsome man" which is clear from the event, or "the beautiful woman loves the handsome man," which is also true. Indeed, from our perspective it could mean either, but this is deliberately done so. Thanks again!

Luke Amadeus Ranieri

Great catch on ταχέως! Thanks. I haven't explicitly introduced οὗτος or αὕτη etc. yet (only implicitly). This is the consequence of pedagogical style, where vocabulary is deliberately sheltered to reduce complexity. In no way, of course, should these sentences be taken to be good examples of Attic style, just as the first 30 chapters of Familia Romana absolutely do not represent good Latin style. So yes, I'd absolutely write οὗτος for a more normal usage. Also note that I keep using the correct but uncommon construction τὸ τοῦ ἀνδρὸς ὄνομα etc. instead of ὀνόματι or the dative case because neither have been introduced in context yet. And this is to ingrain the usage of the genitive. So you see what I'm getting at? The compromises are very deliberate. I am really grateful for your thoughts, though. Given these restrictions, do you think the sentence still works?

Jeffrey Willson

I still find it problematic. For the correct sense, it has to be analyzed with an implied subject (what the arrow points to) and ὁ τῶν δούλων δεσπότης as predicate noun. But the definite article normally signals the subject with this verb. Within the pedagogical limitations, I’d be more comfortable with either ὁ ἀνὴρ (ὁ) τῶν δούλων δεσπότης ἐστίν. or τῶν δούλων δεσπότης ἐστίν.

Luke Amadeus Ranieri

Right, I don't disagree; and yet the type of construction I used is found in similar textbooks for beginners, no?

Jeffrey Willson

I suppose it's worth changing only if you think others will do the same double take that I did, and I only did a double take because I was studying the captions so closely that I'd parsed the entire sentence before I saw the arrow.