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Hello all!

I'm back from patrecon, it was an amazing event will definitely go next year if I'm invited!

I met other adult creators at and after the event, I think I own aka6 a beer... Don't mention it to him! 

Many of the adult creators was possitive towards collaborations so keep your eyes open for future content ;) 

We had a lunch with the patreon staff for adult content, as you may know they've updated the policy for adult content and wanted to get our feedback. If you're a creator and reading this feel free to message me if you're curious about the stuff that we talked about!

Basically there's no change in the policy, they only have a team that enforce the policy now.

IMPORTANT NOTE! I've talked with the patreon staff about stealing content from creators on patreon and share it on other platforms, sadly this is a problem for me even though my content is free. It's still illegal to share early access content to others! 

WARNING! If you share my early access in the future I will report you to the patreon staff! I don't think I have to tell you the penalty for pirating everyone knows it right now.

Sadly I've seen my game being shared on alot of different platforms... I'm not saying that you have to support the creators work but stealing and sharing their work so that you can earn your own money it's just being an asshole! Since you're actually destroying for the creator... Ok enough about stealing, I don't want to waste my time on it!

I've also decided to remove all ads on my website, which I've already done. Check it out here: https://patreonwhiteraven.com

I created a tumblr page check it out here  https://patreonwhiteraven.tumblr.com/  It's empty now but I'll start posting there soon!

EDIT: I almost forgot every creator who attended to patrecon will get early access to the new app that patreon is working on. It's called patreon lens and will allow creators to share what they're working on with a short video or picture. This will allow me to share a picture of storyline work or map creation. As for doing the wall of text to explain what I'm currently doing, kind of takes me out from my creative state.

To sum this post. I got some new friends and inspiration for my own work, also figured out some question mark about the new policy and sadly how I can report patrons who share early access content. 

Now I'm going to work on the game! I'll be back with more information with update date and such in a few days.

Cheers! Your's WhiteRaven

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WhiteRaven

Thank you :) You could just add one reward tier and let them donate whatever feels best for their pocket. So every patron get the same reward even though they're pledging different amount of money. I talked with alot of creators about that. Your content is worth something! But sometimes people thinks you're only in for the money when you ask for donations. It's hard but I think patreon is making it easier for creators like you and me to explain why we ask for donations.

Ignazzio

I have a question regarding new guideline; You say they're just enforcing it. But right now it seems like they're not banning or even suspending devs anymore. Do you know if paywall is enough to stay safe with your content? Cuz if they'd try to enforce these rules they'd have to ban most of the adult devs here. Did they tell you something more specific?

WhiteRaven

Yes they said that they wont ban you if you're not following the policy but they will ask you to remove or change that thing that's not following the policy and if you refuse they will make your site private untill you accept to change it. I also got a public letter from one of the creators that attended to the lunch but I can't share it with everyone since it's not for media but I can send it to you if you want to read it if you agree to not share it with anyone else. It's about how inconsistent the new policy is and what patreon can do to make it consistent and clear.

Ignazzio

Thx for your response. That's sufficient. I don't need this letter as I would probably share it with other people so it's better like that. It seems it's not as bad as people thought. They surely should work on their communication methods

WhiteRaven

Yes but there's a difference between beggars and creators on patreon, creators is asking for a donation to allow them to work more and buy stuffs to be able to create more contents. But it's also true that you as a patron can't know what the creator will use the money for that's why I'm thinking of posting here whenever I buy something for the game to show my patrons that I'm using the money to the game.

WhiteRaven

Yes for example in the policy you're not allowed to work with incest or direct rape but they say it's fine to work as in games of thrones which is basicly doing incest and rape at the same time...

Ignazzio

Yeah. It's fine if it makes enough money for them. Most of the games here use incest as a main theme and they seem to ignore it as long as they hide incest word behind paywall. Even tho some were suspended they've returned even tho they're still obviously incest games. Communication and consistential behaviour would be healthy for Patreon for sure.

Ignazzio

Meanwhile MrDots who develops Dating My Daughter has been suspended and unsuspended after some silly changes. It's still obviously about banging a daughter just like most of devs here. So they don't apply those rules so much

OhioOkie

Well, welcome back. I do have a suggestion if it doesn't interfere with your paths. After you rescue the two women and they are in the inn, Tory should be able to visit them at the inn, especially if Tory now thinks dancing for the inn keeper would not be too bad. Her aversion to the inn keeper should be low enough now to enter the inn and check on the two rescued women. While she is there the inn keeper might approach her as she is leaving and have a dialogue with her for future encounters or give her information about other things happening in the town. This writing has given me an idea for more dialogue within the city but would depend what is new in each path.

WhiteRaven

You should be able to enter the inn, can't you enter the inn? In that case it's a bug there... I have some plans for this which seems very close to what you're suggesting :)

WhiteRaven

James, yeah I almost started a collaboration with one of these thieves lol but fortunately I was told what the creator did and was shocked and stopped the collaboration directly! As well as doing the forbidden content it's very hard to know before because the guidlines is not clear from patreons site. I played LOQO before and was inspired by his work to start my own game and in his game there's some frobidden material. Also I don't know if furry stuff or monster sex is forbidden since there's no clear guidelines...

Rycharde's Realm

Seems a bit off, that allowing a certain group of individuals the ability to use incest and rape, GoT and I assume others (big income) groups but not others, us for instance. That is nothing better than bribery (not bribery, just a hell of like it) if I understand what you and Patreon have said so far. That said their policy is still wishy-washy, you know, their policy's NOT being "consistent and clear". Just my two copper pieces worth. (▼へ▼メ)

WhiteRaven

Yes I agree and that's what we told them at the lunch and they said that they'll come back later with more information. So as far as I know they might not even come back with more information but hopefully they will Jack seems like a good guy but you never know...

Rycharde's Realm

I changed the name of my game from Pangaia Incestus (Latin for incest, by the way) to Pangaia I (not one but hey, if they think is so more the better). Moved all the posts behind the paywall (only have on patron but that is cause I have stated in the summary page that I have not reached the point of releasing any trailers or demos as yet). Two more copper pieces I think.

WhiteRaven

We told them that and as we're paying as much as the others we want to be searchable but with adult filter or like safemode in tumblr

Zakalwe1789

I believe to have found a bug: after choosing the old man and chores you sleep, but after that you cannot sleep if you dont pay taxes, and the tax guy dont let you pay the taxes until you show him your breast... There is no way to avoid that?

WhiteRaven

Hmm you're supposed to be able to avoid that I'll look into that thanks for reporting the bug!