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[Original run date: August 7, 2009, in the Achewood Assetbar subscriber service. Unavailable since approximately 2011.]

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The following conversation took place in the kitchen of Ray Smuckles. Ray had just come in from looking at his new golf clubs in the sunlight, only to discover Téodor Orezscu sitting at the breakfast bar having a strange beer.

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RAY SMUCKLES: Daamn! Whatchu drinkin' there, T? “Kriek De Ranke”? What in heck's that?

TÉODOR OREZSCU: It's a Belgian sour ale, flavored slightly with cherries.

RAY: Huh! Like, a lambic, or somethin'?

TÉODOR: Yeah, but less like a children's soda than a lambic.

RAY: Whoah, man. Don't go talkin' mess 'bout lambics. Stuff be refreshin' when a dogg got his hot heat on.

TÉODOR: Want to try some? You'll see what I mean.

RAY: Sure, hossie! You know I'm always down for a swill.

TÉODOR: [Pours sample for Ray]

RAY: [Sips]

TÉODOR: That's quite a face you're making, there.

RAY: [Gently lets the ale flow back from his mouth into the sample glass, sets it on counter]

TÉODOR: A little different, isn't it?

RAY: Jesus, man. You sure you got the right thing?

TÉODOR: What was your first impression?

RAY: It ain't too nummy, man.

TÉODOR: How would you describe it?

RAY: It was like...like a lime, but without the good part of the lime. So, like a lemon.

TÉODOR: That's actually a pretty good description.

RAY: Actually, huh? Thanks, you wad.

TÉODOR: Hey, come on.

RAY: First you pour me a glass of ranky red intellectual lemon juice and then you stoop to honor my description of it? That is precisely the actions of a wad.

TÉODOR: Try it again. It can be an acquired taste.

RAY: No thanks, man. I ain't want to have to go and re-sit on the toilet all afternoon.

TÉODOR: Fine, more for me. This stuff isn't cheap, you know.

RAY: I hope you didn't pay more than nine cents for that.

TÉODOR: This 750 mil was fifteen dollars.

RAY: [Pauses] Get outta town, man. That's smaller than a Miller thirty-two, which is like a buck, and you can drink a Miller thirty-two without believin' you just made the strongest mistake of the day.

TÉODOR: This stuff is cask-aged and carefully blended from different vintages. There's more to it than your first impression. It's all done in very small batches.

RAY: [Thinks] Fifteen bucks, huh. Like, you can only get it at the beer nerd store?

TÉODOR: You don't see this kind of thing at Safeway, no.

RAY: Fifteen bucks...dang. “Hey, my beer cost fifteen bucks.” [thinks] I kinda like the sound of that. I like the sound of that! “Did your beer cost fifteen bucks, player? What? Only a dollar? That is some low scrizzle, tastes like my drizzle!”

TÉODOR: They have a couple of these that cost over twenty for the same size bottle.

RAY: Dang, man. Which beer nerd store you hittin' for 'em? Scolafuono's?

TÉODOR: No, they have them cold at Dimondi's Station.

RAY: You need a ride? I need me some twenty-dollar beers all of a sudden.

TÉODOR: Sure. If you don't like them, you can decant them into my glass and fill the bottle with Stellas or whatever you think is good.

RAY: Heh! That is bomb thinkin', T. Pound that nasty nastiness and let's get in the Caddy.

TÉODOR: Can I choose the music, since I turned you on to this stuff?

RAY: Sure, but nothin' lamer than Sting, OK? Like, no Sad Jim Flapso or whatever.

TÉODOR: There's no musician named Sad Jim Flapso.

RAY: Let's just listen to the satellite comedy channel, then. They got some raw Mexican comics on lately, they just tear us apart. They completely tear us a new one.

TÉODOR: OK, fine.

[They leave.]

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Comments

Josh Egbert

I have never, in my life, needed a twenty dollar beer.

Brian Horstead

I haven't thought of this one in a long time. What was the run of Beefs travalogue during he and Molly's honeymoon tour of different mini golf courses?

Achewood

There have been times when I would have paid forty dollars for a one-dollar beer. Probably more, but I don’t want to get into that.

Josh Egbert

Also, lambic slander just makes T sound like he is putting on airs.

Achewood

That was also in Assetbar. I was just looking over it — lots of "live posting" about their RV trip up the west coast, visiting mini golf courses and more. I could package it up for the In-Universe tier?

Achewood

I read that as "iambic slander" and wanted to write Lambic slander in iambic pentameter (which would be putting on airs)

Julie (HiDeeHoGal)

Nothing hits on a dim and muggy dog's day of summer like some Portishead and chilled raspberry lambic. I thought so back then and I think so even more now. A straight up sour is like the goat milk yogurt of beers.

Daniel M Ford

I can beer nerd with anyone but I largely share Ray's feelings on sours. I can pay fifteen dollars for a good beer that doesn't make my face do THAT

Achewood

Only a true head drops a Thorstein about beer. Much claps

Achewood

Me and the boys used to get nutty on malt-fortified Drinking Tvorog

Achewood

These days [cue Morgan Freeman voice] you can buy a nine dollar Non-Alcoholic bottle of beer. Which is largely nonsense, mind you.

Daniel M Ford

I wonder how Ray feels about the world of THC Seltzers, that mostly do not taste like anything

Achewood

I have it on good authority that Ray prefers nano-emulsified gummies that get the weed in his system faster, so he can leave his home office and be blissed by the time he opens the sliding glass door to his pool.

Zach M

Sour beers are actually created by melting down Sour Warhead candies and _literally fermenting the citric acid in them_

Spyguitar

As long as we're beer-nerding... T's displaying his ignorance here. "Lambic" can mean several things, only one of which is fruited ("like a children's soda") and, in fact, Kriek De Ranke _is_ a fruited lambic I was obnoxiously into sours for like two years back in the early 2010s, probably. These days I'm a Dad of a Certain Age which means mostly light grassy pilsners and the occasional ill-advised IPA

Achewood

Plus you have to filter them through a Jonathan Safran Foer novel.

Brian Horstead

I'd love to revisit that one if you think it's worth dredging up

Achewood

I was wondering about this. I wrote it during my own "expensive beers" phase and was clearly more into the effects than the taxonomy. These days, I'm into whatever can wash down the longevity supplements without me tasting them.

Daniel M Ford

I just remain steadfast in my desire for American craft brewing to call off the Imperial Triple IPA HOPS GOTTERDAMERUNG that seems to have been going on for twenty years now. I enjoy the occasional IPA but there's nothing wrong with making some Lagers and Pilsners now and then, fellas. And yet, come midwinter and Christmastime I will be demanding 10% or higher Barleywines. I contain multitudes.

Julie (HiDeeHoGal)

I'd take the malt, I used to love sipping a nice quadrupel with a finish that lasts a month, but the idea of quasi-liquid tvorog makes me want to barf.

Bruce Wright

First time I had a sour, I thought someone was playing a nasty joke. There was no second time.

Achewood

Consider it done. Soon. Ish. (You'll see it, I just have other stuff scheduled on Wednesdays ahead of it)

Achewood

Sorry, I meant malt liquor, not the fun Whoppers flavor

Achewood

Mix with a fine olive oil. Toss with greens.

Achewood

Pretty soon you'll open a bottle and actual hops will spray out, like a canned comedy snake

Nicholas Williams

You got more of these old assetbar situations all just hangin' somewhere? Because I need them, man. I need the one about Ray and Beef going to Home Depot. I need the one about Ray and Beef eating sushi. I need the one where Cornelius and Teodor go to a steak house. I need the one where Teodor and Pat go to a King Crimson concert (this one is not real, but it could be).

Ryan Boyle

The market for conspicuous consumption beverages is crowded, but if anyone could do it with beer, it's the Belgians. "Regarded by Cloistered Monks" or something.

Achewood

I just saw the steakhouse one last night. I only see one reference to Home Depot in the master file, and that's from one where Beef and Molly are considering buying a home, and Teodor talks with Beef about it. I don't see a sushi one, maybe that was in the blogs? The one where Ray eats fish that ate tourist resort sewer poop?

Achewood

Nobody likes monks in real life, why do we think their beer is so magical.

Douglas Wykstra

When lambic suds do overspill thy glass, Thou must admit that sours taste like ass. (a spondee may have slipped into the second line, but some flexibility with meter is necessary for the best verse)

Achewood

Like the off-key note in any composition, it’s where the flavor comes from

Nicholas Williams

As I recall the sushi one is an omakase situation. Ray is dazzled, Beef is unimpressed. The Home Depot one is less clear in my mind, but I don't think I invented it. Ray says something about a computer making his face into a Tron-face in some digital hellscape? And how he wants to avoid that by learning to make physical objects? Have I gone INSANE.

Douglas Wykstra

A little surprised by the reactions of the commentariat. This aging beer nerd finds sours to be a nice way to drink an interesting beer that doesn't have a high ABV or lead to a night of malt farts, both an increasing area of concern as my body starts to throw gears and emit unexplained draining sounds. I will allow that they were more of an extreme sport around the time this was written.

Amit Katz

When $15 was considered a comically large amount to pay for a beer

Achewood

I'm going to step away from this thread for a little bit, okay? It's not you, it's me. I have a phone call. Some people are calling me.

Achewood

"Stayest thou true to thine likker" Willrayiam Smucklespeareshakes

Achewood

These days that's just 80% of a burrito (non-alcoholic)

Ben Sunshine-Hill

Look, your other two choices for brewers are “loud curmudgeon of a certain age” or “styled mustache”. At least the monk isn’t gonna make you listen to his theory about allergies.

Achewood

Why is it that guys who drink alcohol every day always have it all figured out

Shawn Warren

I was trying to broaden my food/beer horizions around the time this was published and it probably got me to go try some sours, so thanks for that among many other drinks and dishes. Nowadays I don't drink them even close to regularly but they are excellent on a hot summer day

2scrogz

Tagging onto Dan Ford's complaint - I just want to buy a well-brewed, balanced beer at Costco, because everything is so damn expensive these days, so I'm trying to keep my vices cheap. But damn near EVERYTHING that Costco carries in my area is either: 1. Domestic Light Swill 2. IPA's either year-round or seasonal 3. IPA "variety" packs with an IPA, a double IPA, a "Northwest" IPA, and a hazy IPA 4. pFriem Pilsner Which like, pFriem is fine, but at this point, I've had it so much that I'm sick of it. Seriously, why do we need IPA "variety" packs, much less 2 different brands of IPA "variety" packs?! THIS IS NOT HOW THE WORD "VARIETY" WAS INTENDED TO BE USED. Fuckin' dying for a Kolsch, a session IPA, a Pale Ale (not "India"), a non-pFriem Pilsner, or like, a dry-hopped Lager. So many great breweries in the PNW, and so many terrible options at Costco. How did we even get here.

Achewood

Have you considered straight vodka in a warm coffee mug 🎶we built this city on rock and rollllll🎶

Achewood

Dogg have you had chamomile I am talking straight with honey and grapefruit peel Welcome to the Game

Dante Blando

Gueuzes and krieks are most of what I miss about alcohol. Thank you for this run. My wife and I went to Belgium for our honeymoon, specifically to attend the Gueuze Biennial. The gueuzeries and open-air fermentation brewers in metro Brussels open their doors one Sunday in May every two years. We had a lovely time at the Boon plant in Halle, hiding from the mobs with an Australian man that was happy to hear similar English. We enjoyed the break in the rain and otherwise savoring the brewing operations. Dang, this means I'm more akin to Teodor than I'd like to admit.

Achewood

If I were to drink for flavor once again, it would just be a nice Rodenbach or Duchesse de Bourgogne. Such is the evidence I was never an accomplished geuze-geeze as your esteemed self. Ah, beer that is not pure PNW hops!

b.zap

o no u dint

b.zap

T dropping the "busted yr sour cherry" ball. Booo.

Gregory Sheets

Wad (N.) : 1. A person who pours a glass of ranky red intellectual lemon juice and then stoops to honor another’s description of it; 2. A person who should eat an entire realm of ass.

Achewood

From the Old English "wad," meaning what a teenager drops into a napkin upon completion of a fantasy. See illustration under Orezscu.

Chris Daniels

I have once paid twenty dollars for a beer. It was 23% alcohol and was carefully calculated to legally be still called a beer

Achewood

I have never heard of a beer like this. I didn't even know yeast could live and produce alcohol above the low teens. Wait, was this a, "boilermaker"?