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Episode 63 [PATREON EXCLUSIVE] -- Oswald Spengler and the Decline of the West (Patreon)

Published:
2025-03-07 05:24:34
Edited:
2025-04-22 02:32:14
Imported:
2026-09

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Oswald Spengler (1880-1936) is today mostly remembered for his hugely impactful and rarely read tome The Decline of the West, published in two volumes in 1918 and 1922. In this Patreon exclusive freak-of-the-week episode, Adrian takes Moira on a guided tour through declinism, salvation history, and what it feels like to be a symptom. [Note: we're calling this our Episode 63, even though 62 -- a main-feed episode -- is still in editing and will drop next Tuesday.]

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Laura

An episode about fascism and humor would be very interesting, I hope you do one!

Charley

Please do a Thomas Mann episode. Would love to hear more about the little bitch stuff 😜

Charlotte

You can tell that Moira and Adrian are people of culture by how they seamlessly integrate one of the top 3 dril tweets. Nice.

Betti Steam

In addition to the particles, might I suggest if it honks about decline and goosesteps

James Talley

Walked in thinking this would have little relevance to (gestures at everything). Walked out saying, "Holy shit, this tracks!" Thanks!

Karen Cox

I’m going to write a modernist opera called ‘The Sinking of the Evening Lands’ and have arias about birthrates.

West

Always felt the fascist association was unfair to geese. Yes they are assholes, but more left anarchist assholes who are all about federation and pooping wherever you please.

Katie

Morbid symptoms of a declining civilization unite!

Karen Cox

My father was a history professor and had the Toynbee book and its cheap imitation — all 498 volumes of Will Durant’s ‘History of Everything In Simplistic Cold War Terms.’

Karen Cox

Do you have an opinion about William McNeil’s riposte to Spengler ‘The Rise of the West?’

Melanie Schlosser

I would wear a t-shirt that says "the west isn't going to decline itself!" Possibly preceded by "Get in losers".

Karen Cox

TH White thought ants would be Nazis. Living in Texas with fire ants I absolutely endorse his conclusion.

Karen Cox

Mann’s daughter Erika was married for decades to WH Auden, famously gay poet. After she died Auden proposed to Hannah Arendt. I love this about all of them.

Suradha

Unrelated but this is the most active and committed podcast patreon I've ever had the pleasure of subscribing to and I'm feeling hella spoiled with these

Charlotte

I want this shirt!

Bethany Gardner

As someone with a PhD in psychology please dunk on Jordan Peterson more. We don’t claim him 💀

In Bed With the Right

I (this is Adrian, btw) once met William Hardy McNeil!!! I remember really liking the book when I was 19, but I haven't revisited it since! Maybe we should consider it for the pod!

Karen Cox

oh, please! (I met him when I was 5. I don’t really remember the event.)

William Knight

Was the use of ‘untergang’ in German in the Nazi era partly a conscious reflection of Spengler’s language, like in the Nazi slogan ‘world power or downfall’? I first learned what the word meant when I watched the movie honestly.

Jolanta Benal

Re: Spengler's crystals. It's been ages since I read it, but isn't there something in Doctor Faustus about crystals and their growth? I don't remember it being New Agey, exactly -- I remember some actual biochemists hypothesizing about crystals and the origins of life, or the boundary between living and nonliving (kind of how viruses puzzle biologists too). DK whether the scientific questions were within Mann's lifetime. Now I need to look into that ...

Leo Paniagua

Omg u guyssss ur talking about cultural evolutionism thats my whole thiiiiiiing (hating on it is my whole thing)