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Episode 80 [PATREON EXCLUSIVE] -- The Musk Trump Break-Up (Patreon)

Published:
2025-06-12 10:03:53
Imported:
2026-09

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In this Patreon Exclusive, Moira and Adrian talk through the bromance, the falling out and the likely reconciliation between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, and what it tells us about the varying styles of masculinity that run through this administration.

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Karen Cox

They’re back together. This spat was always completely fake, designed to distract from the terrible budget bill. Musk can quit pretending now that there’s another shiny object on FOX News every night.

WGM

I think the left masculinism touched on might be a neat episode - the podcast Left of Philosophy had a great discussion of it in an episode on 90's-00's left wing groups

Jenny Cleary

If you guys do the Musk sister wives episode don’t forget about Jared Birchall (his fixer). There’s some religious connections that make things interesting specifically Mormon.

Karen Cox

I would really love this.

Karen Cox

I have sôme direct experience of the gender politics of green energy. My mom had some land leased for a solar plant and attended ànd spoke at the county commission meeting where they sought some permits. It was . . . not fun. The Commissioners all wanted the project but ooohh boy were they defeated by arguments about Manliness.

Katie

were other people, living through other times when the world seemed to be falling apart, equally as struck by how the guys in power were all such fucking losers? were the psychosexual issues of other dictators and hangerson also so obviously on display for the people who suffered under them? this is just so embarrassing. these fucking guys??? really?????

RFB

Thank you Moira for the horrifying visual image created by the statement that anybody's personal habits have started leaking - it sounds extremely messy and unpleasant! And if a person needs a dosette box to manage their drug habit then they really should have complex medical needs.

A Felt

I would love (by which I mean be morbidly fascinated and probably also outraged by) an episode about Elon’s sister-wives. It drives me crazy how many people I talk to don’t see Musk’s creepy treatment of women as a real issue (just another instance of how misogyny isn’t taken seriously as a form of oppression)