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The Flash S09E13 - A New World: Part 4: Finale FULL REACTION (SERIES FINALE) (Patreon)

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And thus ends another one of my shows! I will miss this show for sure, it had it's ups and downs but god dammit if Grant Gustin wasn't the best in this show! 

This ends the Arrowverse for most. <3

Thank you for your continued support as we watched this together! I love you guys!

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James

Grant Gustin IS the flash. Nobody else will ever be able to outdo his performance. Sadly Cisco couldnt be in the episode bc the actor was busy filming something else. He wanted to do it but they couldnt fit it in.

James

It was better than i thought it would be. I actually really like the second half of the episode. I honestly think it would have been better if they had a season long arc and ended the arc on the previous episode so this entire episode can be more chill and reminiscing like how the second half was. Seeing them actually just chill for a bit and seeing them all be happy. I just like the second half alot. Also i dont like the idea of him becoming the lightning rod that hit him. That would just mean that he doesnt have a future. He wont be there for his kids when they grow up. I just think its too depressing for a show like this. I like the more happy ending we got.

Brandon Wiesner

I honestly hated this finale. They brought back all the old villains, only for them to be quickly dispatched within the first 15 minutes. Then people in team Flash have inexplicable powers to stop these villains that Flash had season long battles with? Chester should have been dead. The last minute power up from seasons ago made no fucking sense. Barry is just able to convince Eddie to stop fighting him, using what Khione said? This stupid fucking sappy ass message of you need to do away with violence and everything will be in harmony and everyone will fart rainbows and love each other? Man, this pissed me the fuck off. Barry is a superhero. Heroes fight villains. They don't go off skipping in the park, hugging each other and playing board games together. Ok, so Kaitlyn is back. Great in concept but executed horribly. They played it off like we were saying goodbye to not just Khione character but Kaitlyn and Frost too. But nah, Kaitlyn just appears, NBD. So everything she went through last season and the beginning of this one was like oh, psyche, she just comes back out of nowhere. Just like when it looked like Khione was killing Mark, they showed all these flashbacks of his character, leaning on the possibility that it was going to be the last time you were going to see him. But no, jk. GRRR! Of course they had to add in the Joe/Cecille proposal. It would have been a great moment if it wasn't the worst timing ever. They were having a celebration for Nora being born and it was literally the end of the last episode. That's like ok, the world's about to end. Let's get married, because who cares right? So fucking stupid! Then this last scene with him "sharing" his powers. Can this episode get anymore sappy? It didn't make for a cool moment or anything remotely close to a satisfying end to the show. It seriously felt like they were picking random ideas out of a hat. They ended with that one and all shrugged, because no one involved cared about the show anymore. They didn't care about the comic stories they were adapting. They certainly didn't care about what the fans wanted to see. What they are calling the end of the Arrowverse landed with a big fucking thud. Thanks, CW and Eric Wallace and fuck you! Sorry for the long, negative and expletive filled rant. I am just so mad about how this season and show ended.

Sheilo

"Why?!" Pretty much summarizes not only this episode, but the last three seasons. What I find kinda odd about Barry choosing the next generations of speedsters is that he's willingly placing random people through the same struggles he went through playing god for some reason.

SWTobito
>>115044006

For Barry Allen to take down a villain not by beating them death but instead finding a non-violent way is pretty on brand, both for CW Barry who developed as a character to that point and also comic Barry who at the end of Joshua Williamson's Flash run defeated Reverse Flash by forgiving him. Barry Allen is the goody two-shoes of the Flash family. Always has been. If you're upset with him acting in character, then you're following the wrong Flash. Eddie was manipulated by the negative Speedforce, the same way Joe, Mark and Nora were manipulated by the crystal. Had Barry done anything but save Eddie to win, he quite frankly would've been a bad hero. Flash has always been a hero to save people. Defeating the negative Speedforce by saving Eddie from its wrath, is as on brand for the character as it could get.

SWTobito

Okay, I'm gonna do one comment to discuss the episode and one to discuss the show. Finale first: The villain cameos were fine for being confined to just one episode, which also had to wrap up the entire show. Personally I would've preferred an episode allocated to Team Flash fighting the villains and then the last episode only concentrate on the conflict between Eddie and Barry. Just in general I'd say this story arc needed at least another two episodes. One to lend more time to Eddie's corruption and one for the returning villains wreaking havoc on Central City. But since we're talking about Eddie, I am glad they ended things the way they did. Eddie wasn't a straight up villain, like the speedsters he recruited. He was a victim of the negative Speedforce's manipulation. For Barry to actually save him to defeat the negative Speedforce and thus also repaying Eddie for saving Barry all the way back in the season 1 finale is the best scenario, imo. Alot of the Cecile was stuff was shoe-horned in, as always, but I think having Joe finally propose was a nice way to end things between the two. The two did in fact allude to wanting to get married in the season 7 finale, which is why you probably don't remember it. I am glad they brought Caitlin back and even moreso that Frost didn't. I respect the show not pulling an "Everybody lives!" Frost died at the end of the Deathstorm arc and team Flash dealing with that loss was a big plot point. Caitlin never really got a proper death scene, not to mention a funeral, so it was kind of obvious they were gonna bring her back at some point. From a storytelling standpoint it was still weird for team Flash to not act like they usually would when a team member died but I'm still glad Caitlin wasn't actually dead. Now onto the good stuff, which is everything involving Barry and Iris. As always this season the scenes between Barry and Iris and at the end Barry, Iris and Nora were beautifully done. I have absolutely no complaints there except that we needed more. For Barry to create the next generation of heroes, the next generation of speedsters was really nice to see. Avery Ho, Max Mercury and Jess Chambers. I'm glad to know those three are gonna be heroes on Earth-Prime. I am really glad they did not end on Barry dying and becoming the lightning bolt that struck him. That was a one-off story, in a Secret Origins annual, that was retconned a couple different times within comic continuity. Having the show end on a scene of Barry running through the city, like a guardian angel, is imo the perfect bookend to the show. It started with him running through Central City and ended that way too. This finale wasn't perfect. Just like this story arc and season are far from perfect. I wish this season had concentrated on Barry and Iris more. I wish there weren't so many boring sidecharacters jampacked into the season. But even on this rewatch I feel emotionally satisfied at the end and that's all I really need to deem this a good series finale.

SWTobito

Man. 184 episodes. I remember first coming across this show all the way back in 2014 as it was first airing here in Germany. I didn't really know much about Flash at the time. Hell, being 12, I didn't know much about any superheroes outside of Batman, Superman and Spider-Man at the time. But this show had me hooked from the get-go. From there as I watched through the first two seasons I became more and more obsessed with the character and started to look up his comic stories, finding channels like Comicstorian, Pagey, the Blind Wave crew. This show gave me such a unique fascination with Barry Allen that over the years evolved into him being my favorite superhero of all time and through that love of the character the entire DC universe was blown wide open for me. This show is the reason I am as big a DC fan as I am today. It's the reason I am such a huge Flash fan and why about 2 weeks ago, on my 21st Birthday, I got an Omnibus of the very first Flash stories involving Barry Allen. All the way back in DC Showcase #4 from the year 1956. And for that reason I have stuck with this show from the very beginning to the very end. There were many ups and downs throughout this show's run. The lows of this show could sometimes go lower than the character deserved but there were also always highs again, which showed over and over again why this show made me fall in love with Barry Allen, the fastest man alive, in the first place. The show has evolved alot, both in the stories ans messages it tells, as well as ita visual design and while not all of it was always for the better I am glad to have experienced it all. This show will forever and always have a place in my heart. Grant Gustin will forever and always be my Flash and there's nothing the show could've done and did do within this last season that would've changed that. I am proud and glad to have stuck with this show for 9 years and I hope that we will see Grant Gustin return to the role one day, even if not in the near future. With this I say goodbye once again to this show, which has shaped my life for the better. ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

Patrick - Excelsior

I liked the one last reference to Flash 1990 series when Jay Garrick attacked Cobalt Blue he said he used a trick from Earth 90 Flash to absorb CB’s speed. The same trick Barry Allen from 1990 Flash used on Grant Gustin Flash in Crisis. Well, it wasn’t the worse episode in the series. It also wasn’t the greatest. I give it a passable grade. There were things I really liked and things that I thought were blah. I won’t go into details because I’m sure others have done that for me. I will mention one problem I had. The thing that bothered me the most though was…NO Sisko. Come on!

catwhowalksbyhimself
>>115082211

I did like that Earth 90 reference, yes. I just wish Jay has been there from the beginning of the fight, instead of showing up out of nowhere like a Deus Ex Machina.