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Full Metal Jacket Watch Along (Patreon)

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2024-03-19 16:00:08
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Whoa. This movie. Hold on to your horses it's intense. I actually SCREAMED! And then I don't know if I fully recovered!

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Full Metal Jacket Watch Along

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Baron Imhoof

Good reaction, as usual. How over-the-top the basic training scenes are depends on when it happened. When my grandfather went through basic in World War One, the language would have been less coarse, but physical punishment (slapping, punching, kicking) more common. I was in army basic training in 1981, and the biggest difference between my overall experience and this film was that any slaps or punches would not have been where the wrong eyes might see, and the language would been far less full of racial insults. But lots of things can happen at night: I never saw a blanket party, but we all knew what one was, which was a pretty strong incentive not to screw up. Conversely, the cadence they sing in this movie is mild compared to some of the stuff we sang about marijuana, which I suspect wouldn’t have been allowed just a few years earlier. It really is designed to break a person down and rebuild them. We were on a break once and I looked over to see a dude lying on the ground talking to no one. He was drilling some ants he found. Meanwhile, Kubrick was a great director, and I would strongly recommend Dr. Strangelove (1964), another war movie. It’s my favorite film of his, Peter Sellers has his greatest role(s) in it, and it’s on the AFI lists of best American films and best comedy films.

Shawn Goforth

That transition from the island to Vietnam is so difficult as a viewer. I've seen this quite a few times, and it never gets easier. We aren't given any time to breathe between the rifle shots and Nancy Sinatra. The camera is already stolen, before we can even ground ourselves into paying attention to the next scene. I always felt the the two halves of this movie could have belonged to completely different films. The tone feels a bit uneven, but what we witness is absolutely an artistic choice, from beginning to end.

RFK Fan

I know I'm in the minority here but I never liked this movie and I've watched it again and again thinking I must be wrong but I STILL don't like it. Let me say it's very well shot and acted but its the story that's weak here I think. The first half was very entertaining (R Lee Ermey is always entertaining but liked him better in The Boys in Company C) but I found the 2nd half and most of the movie overall? very pretentious. It just didn't work for me. The main characters come off as a bit too cartoonish for my liking with some very cliched scenes . Not something I would expect from Kubrick. I'm sure I'll get crucified for this but I wouldn't even say this is in my top 10 Vietnam war film Faves much less war film overall..

Pascal Vorwerk

Sadly, the experience of Leonard Lawrence / Gomer Pyle was not all too uncommon during the Vietnam War. To meet personnel requirements for the increasingly unpopular war, defense secretary Robert McNamara started a program called Project 100,000, but often also referred to as “McNamara's Folly” / “McNamara's Morons”. Within this program, around 350,000 men were recruited that would otherwise have failed mental or medical examinations. Over 40 percent of those men were drafted, while the rest enlisted willingly. They were much more likely to become casualties and usually had difficulties reintegrating into society, while the program was advertised by Lyndon B. Johnson as helping them out of poverty by providing education and training. While I don't think it was ever officially confirmed that the character was based on the project, it is likely that there was at least some influence.

Bubba Fett

Animal mother (Adam Baldwin) has been in a ton, super long career and he usually plays supporting roles like this and excels at it. He's a standout part of a certain series you're debating for the future, won't give anything way but he was perfectly casted for that one.

Noell G

Oof, I never thought I would watch this movie. Definitely a punch in the gut that leaves you nauseous and confused. honestly the actor who played Leonard had the Kubrick stare mastered. Looked like he was possessed which made the scene ten times more effective. that’s burned into my brain.

Carl Lyngholm

Regarding you feeling a bit guilty about laughing during the opening scene, everyone laughs. In fact, I think Kubrick intended that people laugh. When Hartman yells at Pyle about smirking and telling him to get on his knees to choke himself, that's basically a scene Kubrick put in there to fuck with the audience. It's Kubrick basically interrogating the audience about why they're laughing at Hartman verbally dehumanizing and denigrating these men (boys really). Otherwise, seeing as no one else has mentioned this, the actor who played GySgt. Hartman (R. Lee Ermey) was an actual Marine Drill Instructor earlier in his life which would explain why it seems to come so naturally to him. Apparently, when he wasn't "playing that role", he was a pretty nice dude.

pickupthepieces

FMJ is a movie that may not be for everybody. It's dark, it makes you feel uncomfortable and doesn't let you off the hook for the whole movie. There are hardly redeeming factors for us to hang on to. The characters are not particularly likable, the setting is awful and the one enemy soldier we actually really get to see is a young girl. And it starts of with a grueling boot camp. It shows the ugliness of war like none other. Yet it is engaging, drowned in craftsmanship and originality. For me it's like a beautiful painting of ugliness (of war). Thereby making a strong impression and driving the point home more than most war movies. Btw, R. Lee Ermey who played the drill instructor was hired as a consultant as he had actually had been a real life drill-instructor in the Corps. Kubrick wasn't satisfied with the actor in that role and another actor was to come in. But when Kubrick saw a 15 minute demo video Ermey made where he berates for 15 minutes straight without repetition while being thrown fruit at, he decided to cast him. Which actually kick started an acting career, because he had hardly done anything up to that point. He also did three tours in Vietnam (two voluntary).

John Courtright

I think Full Metal Jacket is an interesting and thought-provoking film. I found the first half to be entertaining... the second half not so much. While I didn't hate the film, I didn't particularly like it either. But I get the point. In my opinion, the entire film is a running commentary on the duality of man. The good and the bad, the beautiful and the ugly, the reverent and the disdainful... all present and on display at the same time... and in each of us. In FMJ, Kubrick is determined to hammer the duality point home. Joker wearing "Born to Kill" on his helmet and wearing a peace button on his uniform is a constant reminder. (Ames, I thought your comment about "maybe his name should be Two-Face" was an insightful and appropriate reflection.) Sudden dynamic cuts from scenes of violence to 60s pop music are jarring and very effective at making the viewer uncomfortable. There may be two sides to our natures, but we generally don't like both of them in our faces at the same time. Successfully dealing with this inherent duality in us requires a certain tolerance for ambiguity. Despite mankind's potential for good, we recognize and are often confronted with the darkness and evil of which man is capable. Those who are unable mentally or emotionally to tolerate such ambiguity can break. Private "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence is a disturbing example of such a person. He's a worthless piece of crap one minute and a valuable member of an elite fighting force the next. Unfortunately, he can't hold both realities in his mind at the same time, with deadly consequences for himself and others. I thought the film did an effective job of extending the duality theme to the country's ambivalence about the war itself and the soldier's own attitudes about what they were doing in Vietnam and why.

Clay F

Excellent movie. Excellent reaction. Stellar acting in the movie. The movie is dark and unsettling. As you noted, the movie does not glamorize war. The transition from boot camp to Vietnam is abrupt, but helps me to put the boot camp behind me. I like how the movie feels like two movies, though in the latter half of the movie, there is always that connection to the boot camp of the first half in the back of my mind. I think the boot camp sadism was over the top, but don't know if that needed or not to prepare a soldier for war? Agree, the song that plays in the outgoing credits is a good song. "Section 8" was a category of discharge from the United States military, used for a service member judged mentally unfit for service. Me and my son (then a teenager) stayed on the Perfume River when we visited Hue (in central Vietnam). Hue is the ancient imperial city of Vietnam. The most intense fighting during the Tet offensive occurred in Hue. The North Vietnamese occupied Hue for a month. While the Tet Offensive (surprise massive violation of the cease fire) was not a military success for the North Vietnamese, it was a political success for them. Turned US public opinion more against the war. Walter Cronkite in view of the Tet Offensive: "... now more certain than ever, that the bloody experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate.... To say that we are mired in stalemate seems the only realistic, if unsatisfactory conclusion.... it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could. This is Walter Cronkite. Good night." "Eskimo pussy is mighty cold." "I am in a world of shit." "I won't be long. I'll skip the foreplay." "Well, at least they died for a good cause." M-i-c-k-e-y M-o-u-s-e As for Kubrik movies, while I am not a horror movie guy, I recommend Kubrik's "The Shining" (1980). It's a work of art.

JM63

Whoa... even though Kubrick is my favorite director, I think I really underestimated this movie! I feel like this is not quite an all-time great film, but it provides a LOT of food for thought. You picked up on something Ames that I didn't the first couple times -- this is fundamentally a satire, and an incredibly cynical one at that. Some things that stood out to me this time around: 1. The link between sexual obsession and male aggression FMJ is actually a great follow-up to Taxi Driver. There are so many references to sex here: sleeping with a rifle, crotch-grabbing while marching, a sex worker as an intro to Vietnam, "poon-tang" as the key word for Animal Mother, another sex worker, the guy who jerks off 10 times a day, porn in the barracks, probably dozens more. Kubrick doesn't spell out exactly what he means, but he clearly feels that the male sexual impulse is a driving force behind violence. Which makes sense -- just look at rams butting heads or Vikings r---ing and pillaging through medieval Europe.

Toc

I'm in the first fifteen seconds of this video, still in the intro....and I just want to say again with feeling, emphatically: there was nothing wrong with the title of this poll! And there was nothing wrong with a single title that was in that poll! O, the nits we pick!

Toc

I actually almost auditioned for this movie! I was too young though......at the time Kubrick was accepting video tapes; the movie itself didn't come out until my senior year in high school, when I would have conceivably been able to audition. I think this was in 1982 or something, 13 years old, and saw it announced in the newspaper, that Kubrick was looking for actors to be in a Vietnam war film, submit a videotape, etc etc. Exactly how most of these actors got their roles, answering this announcement that was in all the newspapers. I was already a super Kubrick fan, had seen all of his films, and was already doing a little acting, but the way I looked at 13 was about 8 years old! I know Lawrence Fishburne was indeed 13 when he did Apocalypse Now, but it wouldn't have worked with me! 🤣 Now that I know about how hard Kubrick worked everyone in the cast and crew (no one more than himself), it's probably just as well. I actually also knew someone who later worked on "Eyes Wide Shut" who told me some wild stories!

Big Willie Dickins

Get off my obstacle course! GET THE 🤬 OFF MY OBSTACLE COURSE!!

Andrew Roach

Kubrick's four other benchmark movies that should be seen are: Dr Strangelove, 1964, dark comedy. 2001: A Space Odyssey, 1968, sci fi featuring visual effects that are still truly spectacular by today's standards. A Clockwork Orange, 1971, crime / comedy (perhaps as it is hard to classify.) The Shining, 1980, horror. All these movies are very different from each other yet regarded as masterpieces, which just goes to show the range and skill of Kubrick.

Emperor Sheev Palpatine

I'd like to point out that the sadism in the book camp sequence has been verified by multiple marine corps veterans to be accurate, including by Hartmann's actor who was an actual marine drill seargent. Leonard's experience is a relatively authentic one.

Lana Gorgeous

I never served in the Marine Corps, my Uncle did during the Korean War and did a career retiring as an E-8 Master Sergeant and my brother and a first cousin served in the Marine Corps in the early 80’s. I served in the served in the Army enlisting in 1978 and after mu first enlistment, I went to college ROTC and reentered the Regular Army as a commissioned 2Lt in 1986. One of my assignments was as an Executive Officer or a Basic Combat Training Company AKA Boot Camp. I asked my Uncle and brother if in was their experience the DI’s would single out one person for abuse as expressed on this movie. Perhaps it did happen, just not their experiences and if I had a Drill Sgt that acted that way I’d have him up on charges. The interesting thing about R. Lee Ermey is he was a DI in real life, but his first movie in 1978 after he retired from the Marine Corps was The Boys of Company C where he also plays the role of a Drill Instructor and he’s is as one would expect, but his focus in that movie was building a team that would work together and have each others back in combat. Most people who have never been in the military focus so much on “Hartman” they don’t on the kid he was abusing, but If you noticed in the movie, he has a hard time tying his shoes, and even dressing himself and that strange smile in the beginning almost seemed or resembled down syndrome or a seriously cognitively impaired presentation. He probably had cognitive issues in what then was called in the mentally retarded range. During Vietman, since they let college students and rich kids off the hook, they needed more manpower and created what was called Project 100,000 AKA McNamara’s Morons, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2VwFDV4-g&t=23s ; This kid in Full Metal Jacket should not even have even been in the military while people like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump and many others used their wealth and privilege to get out of serving their country in Vietnam. And no one focuses on that “Hartman” in the film was fragged at the end, and there were no tears about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1tnNjzy7gI&t=281s While in the movie The Boys of Company C he was much respected and revered.