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Masters of The Air (Patreon)

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2024-02-20 17:00:08
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2026-06
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I knew this was going to be an intense epi! Thanks for joining me!

xx

ames

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Masters of The Air Epi 5 Watch Along

Comments

John Courtright

Looking forward to watching this one with you, Ames! I can't wait to find out what happens to the good Major Gale "Buck" Cleven and his crew! Back to work...

Bubba Fett

Last episode took a lot of FLAK with having the Bremen mission off screen. I liked how that was handled and after this episode I liked it even more. The universal response seem to be how can the just do the lead of the show like that and I feel it was intentional because it's a tiny sampling of how they themselves felt at the loss of their leader and they managed to convert that to the audience. Last episode being a Friday. Another mission on Saturday between episodes then this one on Sunday, really conveyed the absolute hopelessness of flying day after day, even with the glimmer of 25 holding over you yet knowing it's all but unattainable.

JP11

This episode sent this show into a different stratosphere for me. It was really really good before. Now it's a masterpiece. Just to clear up your confusion when you said that Crosby will never get to learn what Bubbles was talking about when he was leaving. It was a joke. He was getting into an unfamiliar plane called "She's Gonna", so when he told Croz, he asked "She's gonna?", and Bubbles' jokingly responded, "wouldn't you like to know".

JP11

Oh and just one more thing in regards to your veteran interview comment. While there are a few of them left, including a tremendous human named John "Lucky" Luckadoo (who is 101 years old), most of these men have been gone for quite some time. Unfortunately with this show being made 20 years after Band of Brothers, they didnt have as many surviving veterans to put on camera. They may have some interviews, but I wouldn't expect it.

John Courtright

That letter from Bubbles to Jean really hit me like a ton of bricks!! What an emotional moment!! Good catch matching up Cros wiping away his tears with the opening sequence of the show, Ames! What incredible story telling! Those shots of the mission, from every possible angle, were amazing! The perspectives of the action from inside the B-17 were terrifying!! Apparently Robert "Rosie" Rosenthal, whose remarkable flying was featured in this episode, was already a law school graduate prior to the war and working at a law firm. He enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor and requested a combat line of service. It was incredible that he and his crew survived that mission!

Clay F

Devastating episode. I knew the odds were bad, but not that bad. These first 5 episodes take place in 1943. In total, more than 11,000 heavy bombers of the RAF and USAAF were lost in the European theater of operations between 1942 and 1945. Long range daylight bombing suffered heavy losses until implementation of long-range fighter escorts -- for instance, the newly introduced long range P-51 Mustang fighter (e.g., able to escort bombers all the way to the Berlin). Plus, eventually the Luftwaffe is degraded (e.g., through attrition). Where is Buck (Austin Butler)? I will be curious to see what happens to Bucky on the ground in Germany. This series has been stunning -- the acting, imagery, production, etc. It's a different aspect of the war compared to Band of Brothers and The Pacific. The characters spend time in decent living arrangements, and then go on what seems like near suicide missions, to return to their nice setup in England (if they make it). The primary characters are essentially all officers, some fairly high level -- captain or major. I guess to fly/command bombers you would be a captain or major, and if a navigator or gunner, etc. on the bomber, at least a lieutenant. A little but not much focus on the enlisted men. In contrast, B of B and The Pacific had signicant focus on enlisted men (private, corporal, sergeant).

Stephen Knueppel

Wow this was a rough episode. I just can't imagine coming back to an empty barracks wondering why I survived when all the others didn't. Please consider watching Greyhound also on Apple TV. It's about trying to protect the Atlantic convoys from the U Boats and stars Tom Hanks as a destroyer captain. Gives a look at a different part of the war than you have seen yet.

Frankie H

I'm a couple days late watching this, I didn't think they'd lose almost everybody in the air wing. Minus the 4 planes who had to turn back do to mechanical problems. The only part where I felt optimistic was when that new crew was maneuvering like a fighter plane and made it back. You asked about the swastika's on the side of the b-17s Ames, those are kill markings, so that bomber with the 2 swastika's means 2 german planes shot down by that b-17. Also you asked what those allied/US fighters were at the start of the mission. My best guess is that they are p-47 thunderbolts. They have a very unique look and can be recognized by their thick fuselage. The "fuselage" being the main body of the plane. The p-47 fighters could take a lot of punishment and did pretty well in the war, but they only had enough fuel to escort the b-17's a fraction of the way on their bombing runs.