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Deep-Dive Discussion: Cobalt Empire Reveals - Silver Sweet (Chapter 1 & 2) + Loathed Love (Love Interest)

The results are in, and again, it's another landslide victory! We're going to be chitchatting about all the recent big reveals in the Cobalt Empire for May's Monthly Pod, and we couldn't be more pumped! Especially since one of the reveals was the first couple chapters from Silver Sweet, and we've been dying to gush about this book and about Tom & Phoenix. So to do it just a little bit before the book releases is going to be soooo much fun. And of course, we can't wait to talk more about Loathed Love and Audrey's love interest!! 🩷

In the comments, ask any questions you'd like us to answer on the podcast about the recent Cobalt Empire reveals! This will be a major tease podcast, but we're not going to spoil things, so keep that in mind 💖

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Teresa

One of the first things i wanted to ask is what went into the decision to reveal Audreys LI now instead of June. Was it because the publishers wanted to put the book up for pre-order?

shi luvs st.cobalt

I’m SO excited for this episode! I can’t wait to dive into all of the things! :’) 𝐐𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬: 1) I have to ask about the big Phoenix twist! When The Hot Drummer™ was first mentioned in “Sinful Like Us”, did you know even then that he would eventually be Birdie (👀)? Or was it something that happened over time while developing Phoenix’s character? 2) You mentioned in a previous podcast that coming to a decision regarding who Audrey’s love interest would be was a bit difficult. When did you realize that Birdie was the one for her? 3) Phoenix is a character that’s existed within the universe for awhile (sort of…🙂‍↕️), but has never been seen on page until SS. What was it like being able to write with him present on page after all of this time? When you were drafting Chapter 2, was there anything about his character (or his initial meeting with Tom) that surprised you?

Yasti

Millie brought this up in the chat the other day and now I have to know! When people were shipping Audrey and Phoenix way back when, did you guys have a little giggle about it? (because really everyone was shipping her with Birdie but nobody knew it) 🤭💜

🕷️

What traits does Birdie have to make him worthy of being the love interest of the seventh cobalt?

a

when are we getting other reveals? (book 4 being whos book, the love intrest, release dates, etc) & do you think you’ll be release all three books left next year?

Marisa

I am so excited this podcast won!! I know this isn’t a specific question, but could you talk about the behind-the scenes creation of chapters 1 and 2 of silver sweet, similar to your deep dive “all about” podcasts for all your finished books? I loved when Becca gushed in the patreon chat room about the parallel between Phoenix thinking tom was underage/tom making a big deal about Harriet being underage and I’d love to hear any other thoughts you have about the creation of these chapters.

Marisa

In chapter 1 of SS tom refers to Charlie as his “crankiest brother” which I found hilarious. Would any other siblings describe Charlie as being cranky?

Marisa

Now that we have read Phoenix’s POV, is there a chance we will get other small teases from his POV prior to SS releasing?

Marisa

In the LL announcement Audrey is holding pride and prejudice. I know Audrey loves Austen, but is there a deeper meaning as to why this book was the one chosen for her character art?

Marisa

I noticed that most of the SS WIP snippets came from Chapter 1 of SS. What factors do you consider when choosing a good WIP to share?

Marisa

In the Chapter 3/Phoenix’s POV reveal, Phoenix’s mom texted him about a job opening with the symphony for the Star Wars Film Concert Series event. How involved are Phoenix’s parents in his career? (Side note: Luna attending this Star Wars Film Concert Series would make a great bonus).

Marisa

Audrey and Birdie’s couple artwork from Lilytea came out perfect. Which future couple (you can just say the cobalt sibling if their love interest isn’t known yet) are you most excited to see them bring to life?

shi luvs st.cobalt

In the “What to Expect in 2026” podcast, Krista + Becca mentioned revealing the CE #4 MC before the end of 2026. :) They also expressed their hopes to re-confirm Beckett’s love interest(s) before SS is released, but it’s possible that their plans have changed since the episode dropped (since that was never set in stone). https://www.patreon.com/posts/149463418?utm_campaign=postshare_fan It was also mentioned in one of the group chats a little while ago (April 16th in the Cobalt Empire chat) that the CE series will not be completed in 2027, due to “the size of the books” and “how much time” K+B need for them (🤎).

Teresa

I've seen on Instagram posts that Birdie is a music progidy and and a classically trained cellist. If this is true can you go into alittle detail on why you chose those things for Birdie and if that will play an important part in SS and Loathed love?

Marisa

What is your favorite small detail from Audrey and Birdie’s character art? (Mine is Audrey’s AVC hair-clip…so cute)

Marisa

I was thinking that too!

Marisa

Was it intentional to make soooo many of Tom’s crushes end up with his family members (Leo, Farrow, and now Birdie)? Or did it happen naturally and you happened to realize the pattern after the fact. Either way, I’m ready for the dramaaaaaa

Marisa

A few weeks before the LL reveal I had noticed that Birdie had a “Northing Personal”pin on his board, but Phoenix didn’t. At the time I thought that was weird, but I definitely did not figure out the twist 🤦‍♀️. Was that an Easter egg you put on Pinterest for us?

Jared Povanda

How difficult was it to keep that twist from us for so long?? 😂 Did you ever get super close to spilling the beans early? How fun was it to write that excellent banter between Tom and Phoenix? Can’t wait to listen to this one! 💙

Jared Povanda

Oh! And about Birdie: Was he always planned as Audrey’s romantic interest, or did you try out different pairings (like Audrey x Guy) before settling firmly on Birdie?

Skuh

I’m so excited😭😭 Question: 1.) In the shopping for Wednesday night prom bonus and the girls day in La bonus Audrey talks about boy bands/musicians, is it a total coincidence that her love interest is in a band/musician or did you always have that in mind? Is Lucas Birch ever going to reappear🤨?

Skuh

Also this is a bit off topic so feel free to skip if needed! 1.) In the Very Merry Girl Squad Christmas bonus Audrey mentions that her five older brothers “ruin all potential, all possibility” in regards to guys(I assume), are guys just scared of her brothers so they don’t express their interest in her? Or do they try to stop Audrey from getting into those situations? Will this come up in her book at all?

Teresa

You've said that Phoenix and Birdie have a unique sibling relationship. I just wanted to know if its a positive relationship, bad relationship or something in the middle. Is there a tvshow or movie that reminds you of there relationship like The Bear , The Vampire Diaries, One tree hill, House of the Dragon (Daemon and Viserys) etc...

Fluff

Will Roxanne’ birthday be mentioned in SS? The big Twenty One.

🕷️

So we know that Phoenix is an excellent drummer but my question is can he sing?

Gloria

Will Birdie play a bigger role in Silver Sweet or will he remain a side character?

Fluff

How would Tom rank his brothers from close to least close? I could see him saying, “well, there’s Eliot then um, every else” lol.

shi luvs st.cobalt

After reading Chapter 2, I felt **so bad** about asking a bunch of Phoenix questions throughout the years (🙈). I’m so sorry if I ever stressed you out, Krista + Becca (😭).

Jared Povanda

The fact that you were asking all those questions, though, means that they pulled off the twist successfully! No one caught on 😭😂

Lara

This is not entirely related to the recent Cobalt Empire reveals, but can be applied to the entirety of the series or to the whole addicted universe: so, is there any character that you wrote and love but you're afraid of showing us? Like, afraid of the possibility of him/her not being liked or understood? Do you have this fear or maybe you already had with any of your previous characters but the people liked him/her? Or this situation already happened and the people didn't like him/her?

Marisa

How did you decide to use “Motivation” for Phoenix’s audition song? What made it the perfect choice?

Nish

You girls mentioned that you went back and forth trying to decide what kind of person Audrey’s love interest would be like. What was the process of choosing Birdie as the LI? And what kinds of qualities or dynamics were you looking for?

Marisa

Did you guys have as much fun seeing our comments/reactions in the chat rooms the night of the SS reveal/the morning of the LL reveal as we had freaking out over them?

N

OMG ITS A NEED

Teresa

What is Birdie birthday and Zodiac sign? Also in his pinterest board the model you have for him has blue eyes but I know the models dont always have to fit the description 100% in your books. So I was just curious if Birdie does have blue eyes ?

Val

How many members of nothing personal is out there? And i think its a little too spoilery but im going to shoot my shot anyways, is phoenix (the og one) going to go by birdie since birdie took his name??😭😭 i know its probably not going to happen but i hope he sues him for identity theft lmaooo

AJ

When Eliot said “the girl is elusive” was he referring to a specific girl in his mind or just the concept of “the one” ?

Teresa

Thank you!! I had missed that 😄

Teresa

Who does the trope "touch him or die" fall under? Tom or Phoenix or both ?🫣

Olive

I'm very excited for St. Cobalt x 2!Though I suppose Audrey and Birdie will end up with their own ship name. At the end of Phoenix's teaser, we see his mom asking about the symphony. Has he played in one before? Does he play any other instruments?

Teresa

Can you tell us what the original blurb for Silver sweet that you were going to release was ?

Val

Was guy’s birthday mentioned? Idk why but he gives me pisces or virgo vibes

Gloria

Is Phoenix aware that Birdie auditioned for Tom’s band?

Gloria

How often did Phoenix listen to Tom’s music before meeting him? Does he genuinely like his music?

Marisa

I keep thinking back to a podcast from last fall (I think the BB deep dive podcast) when the question said why did you release birdie and guy’s Pinterest boards at the same time…and Krista started to answer then stopped herself. It’s so obvious now, but I’m sure in the moment Krista was DYING

N

I’m so interested in the first question like I knew kbr where geniuses but they’re are now challenging Connor & Charlie

N

There are so many good question here omg.

N

Will Audrey live WITH her brothers or move to nyc and live near them?

N

Did the whole Birdie act in the band Nothing personal strain Phoenix and Birdie’s relationship?

N

What is going on with RJ or maybe if it is too much of a spoiler will we get an insight of that throughout the book?

🕷️

So I just read the Shopping for Prom Night bonus scene and I was wondering if we’ll see Audrey going to her prom in silver sweet? Legit teared up reading about little nine year old Audrey, knowing her book comes out this year 😭🥹

Flicka

You said in a BB podcast when you think of who goes next in the series you think of building a coalition of love interests, were Phoenix and Birdie being brothers mostly what you had in mind when you said that?

h

Now that. we on Patreon know the twist, will Phoenix and Birdie's Pinterest board bios be updated soon or are you still saving that for closer to release?

h

Phoenix was a hesitant to say what Birdie does, saying that he himself was a drummer and trailing off when talking about Birdie, sooo can you reveal what instruments Birdie plays? Phoenix too!

h

Some of Birdie's pins have him with tattoos and some don't, so does Birdie have tattoos and if he does, does he have a lot like Phoenix and Farrow, or just a couple/one?

Flicka

What made you decide on Birdie for Audrey’s love interest? When did you decide? was before or after you started CE?

Flicka

Harriet, Phoenix and Birdie seem to have similar-ish aesthetics (on Pinterest at least) are there any non spoiler hints you can give us, on how they’re all different? And what they all bring to the love interest coalition?

Flicka

Will SS and LL have some build up for books 4, 5 and 6 POV’s? It felt like BB had some build up for Toms POV, will it be the same?

Flicka

What made you choose to age up Audrey earlier in the series instead of having Eliot, Charlie or Beckett next in the series?

Flicka

Will books 4, 5 and 6 be announced the same way SS and LL were? at once?

Flicka

Will Kinney make an appearance in Loathed Love? 👀

Flicka

You said you’re in the final stages of writing Loathed Love (good luck!!), can you reveal the word count? Will it be as big as BB and SS?

Flicka

Burn Bright, Silver Sweet and Loathed Love are all two words and start with the same letter, will the rest in the series be the same?

Flicka

Are there any future prevalent side characters in the CE that don’t yet have a Pinterest board?

Teresa

I believe they said back in November that they have pinned down a birthday for him yet. You could ask them though for this podcast.

AJ

Back in September you said that you guys went into chaos mode and switched the order of the books, and that some time in the future would be able to tell us about it. Is it far enough in the future to comment on now?

Teresa

Are Birdie and Phoenix someone who would get nervous or stressed about meeting Rose and Connor for the first time?

h

What’s your favorite relationship each of the St Pierre brothers have with a Cobalt sibling(s) that isn’t their love interest?

Flicka

Phoenix and Birdie came into the series with almost no revealed backstory compared to Roxanne or Jo for example. Was that deliberate or play a role in the being next in the series? Did you enjoy writing a love interest you’re building completely from scratch versus one readers already have expectations for? I know you guys put a lot of effort and energy into making sure character details remain consistent throughout the series.

Flicka

Do you guys look through the chats and have a good laugh at our incorrect theories? And did you see someone named Roxanne’s possible evil ex ‘Earl’? 😂

Flicka

Will the first two chapters Loathed Love be revealed as early as Silver Sweet was? Or are they too spoiler-y to be released before the release of Silver Sweet?

Flicka

Now that there are 3 POV’s in the CE book order left to be revealed, have you seen more people guessing the correct order now?

Taylor F

Soooo excited for this!!! 🥰Can we get any details or specifics of some of the tattoos Birdie or Phoenix have?

Flicka

How’s the writing going? Stressed? Not stressed? Having fun? Excited? (I’m excited 😊)

Flicka

Might be off topic 👀 but of the confirmed and unconfirmed love interests, Roxanne, Birdie, Phoenix, Harriet, Winnifred, Leo and Joana. If you had to choose, who would be the mastermind, the seductress, the silver tongue, the chameleon, the getaway and the psychopath? And who’s most likely to ruin the whole con?

Fluff

I noticed that Tom is able to recognize other peoples talent and skill. First in Birdie then in Phoenix. Did he see something in RJ as well, which is why he was initially attracted to him or was it something else?

h

You wrote siblings getting together/liking each other before in Lily and Daisy with Lo and Ryke and Phoebe and Oliver with Rocky and Hailey. How different are the vibes of Tom and Audrey with Phoenix and Birdie? Especially compared to Lilo and Raisy when Lo and Ryke were not raised together and you said Phoenix and Birdie are quite close!

Marisa

In the LL love interest reveal post we got a short blurb describing what the book was about. Is this the official blurb for the book, or can we expect a different (more detailed) blurb with the cover reveal?

Marisa

Now that we will have both St Pierre brother’s POVs, is it a possibility to get bonus from their time growing up together (after SS and LL release of course). I loved seeing banks and thatcher in the bonus with Skylar (I think it’s at a gas station or mini mart) and I’d love to see the St Pierre’s pre-Coablt empire.

h

How old is Birdie in either Silver Sweet or the beginning of Loathed Love? Not sure if you've answered this before.

Skuh

What would both Tom and Phoenix consider to be their dream concert venues?

shi luvs st.cobalt

Birdie was born March 21st, 2020! “Silver Sweet” begins in January (2042), which means that Birdie will be 21 when SS starts and will turn 22 during it! :)

Sarah Wilson

Will we learn any favorites of Phoenix and Birdie? Like color, tv show, movie, food, etc?

Marisa

Wow he turns 23 like 8 weeks after Audrey turns 18. LOVE THAT FOR HER

h

I thought he was around that age but didn’t see him on the birthday chart so I thought I made that up. Thank you!

Flicka

Is the St. Pierre brother dynamic different from the other sibling dynamics you’ve written?

Marisa

Since the LL love interest announcement has a pink aesthetic, is it safe to assume Audrey and Birdie’s book cover will be the same shade of pink? If so, I love this for Audrey 💗

Nish

How much time will Loathed Love cover? I’m so curious

fxshelbii

This may be to spoilery But in the trope card thing for SS one of them was ‘dark secret’. Upon reading that I always assumed it would have been Phoenix with the dark secret But after reading SS chapter two and hearing Toms song Could it possibly be Tom? You don’t have to share the secret but am I on the right track or as I deluded? I also noticed in chapter one that Tom mentions him and Eliot “know secrets about each other nobody else does.” I mean I always knew that it was a given with how close their relationship is but not is it possibly foreshadowing and connected to my question above? You don’t have to spoil the dark secret? And I’m assuming THE SECRET isn’t the Birdie and Phoenix plot twist from chapter 2 but it could also be connected to that. I don’t know I was so set on it being Phoenix but now it could be Tom and idk what to think

Nish

How ecstatic is Tom to have the cooler ship name compared to Audrey’s? 😂 I feel like Tom would absolutely love St. Cobalt and the fact that he got dibs on it, meanwhile Audrey got Audie (I think that’s what people are calling them).

fxshelbii

Will there be any foreshadowing of who comes next in SS or LL? Like if we pay attention and pick up on something we may be able to guess which sibling comes next? Because thinking back to BB it makes so much sense Tom comes next after everything with his band blowing up (Warner quitting) then everything with Audrey in frat house basement and her book being third.

Skuh

Will we see Audrey’s birthday party in silver sweet since the book starts in January?

Ang💙 (Oliveira’s Version)

1) Why the name Birdie? (HOPING AUDREY CALLS HIM HAYDN THE WAY QUINN CALLS FROG KANNIKA) 2) out of curiosity, y’all write multiple relationships between the same families (just off the top of my mind: Lo/Lily + Ryke/Daisy, Thatcher/Jane + Banks/Sulli, Farrow/Moffy + Donnelly/Luna) why did you choose to do the same with Tom and Audrey?

Ang💙 (Oliveira’s Version)

Why use the same trope why’ve alr seen in the addicted universe with tom and Audrey is essentially my question? All love ofc <3 just wasn’t what I was expecting, but am so pleasantly surprised and SO excited!!

esra ♡

unrelated to the cobalts but how much of luna, kinney and the hales in general are we expecting to see in silver sweet and loathed love compared to burn bright?

Teresa

Is Guy Abernathy a character who will continue to have a presence in the CE series after Loathed love?

frannypack

That also stood out to me and I'm hoping it's just one of toms fun pov takes that's a slightly different filter than others. Would love any more teases of toms perspective, so looking forward to him.

frannypack

This! And don't forget rj being a degree away from roxanne.

frannypack

1) when phoenix is concerned about toms age (hilarious), how seriously worried was he? does tom look young? Seemed like phoenix had a past bad experience... 2) In the bonus before tom met rj, tom said he did not want to know details about a hook up, then in ch 1 of ss he seemed a bit hurt by the lack of connection, so wondering how things have changed for him? 3) will luna be in ss (I need my weird trio) and will it be acknowledged the time she lost memories? In the Unlucky like us/ nobody like us I remember tom seemed to have a hard time emotionally coping with that. Does ss go in to that and if not will there be a possible bonus from that time in toms pov? 4) pls tease if we will have some leo scenes in ss or ll, I love to watch toms diaster crushing

Genevieve

I’m so curious about your planning timeline/foresight - when the hot drummer was first mentioned, did you write this knowing that 1. This is birdie and 2. That this would be Audrey’s eventual love interest?

Lordofandoms

Will Birdie find out about Audrey getting drugged at the frat house?

Val

When is guy abernathy’s birthday and whats his zodiac sign? And im a little confused about how audrey would meet him in college since hes older and should have already graduated (like birdie since they’re the same age)

cloudytaeeee

what 3 words would you say best describe the st.pierre brothers??

cloudytaeeee

I know you wouldn’t be able to say what it is bc of spoilers. BUT will tom have a favorite tattoo on phoenix’s body?👀

h

Does Audrey still run Beckett's social media account(s)?

Miriam

So happy we get to ask about SS and LL! Are both Phoenix and Birdie classically trained in music? Does Phoenix also play another instrument like his brother? Would you say their relationship is more similar to Tom and Eliots, Charlie and Becketts or another (like Beckett and Ben etc.)?

Josina

On a scale of one to ten, how protective will the Cobalt family be of Tom and Audrey in SS and LL?

Teresa

I just have to know ladies. Can Birdie sing?!?!?

Hibah 🖇️

Will Phoenix and Toms dynamic be a bit like Marrows with the banter? Someone mentioned their banter reminded them of Marrow and I can’t get it outta my head

Marisa

How did you come up with sepsis ink? That’s an insane name for a punk rock band.

Marisa

Not a question, but I love how Ben and Harriet’s first “appearance” as side characters in Cobalt Empire is just them in the background hooking up. What a flex. After everything they went through in Burn Bright they deserve it.

cloudytaeeee

nothing personal shares the same label as the carraways. phoenix also reveals in chapter 2 he and tom share the same manager. so can we assume jeremy knows the full extent about everything (name switch/brother situation)?? especially if he’s managed phoenix for years

cloudytaeeee

is there symbolism/significance for the rose on the cover of SS? like there was for the butterfly on BB

madsmoral

Hi! Sorry can I ask where the talk about Roxanne’s evil ex is?

Flicka

Yeah! It’s the Addictedverse chat room from 4 days ago, it has 674 replies under the account @👽

Lordofandoms

Since the next two books both have couples with a St. Pierre sibling and a Cobalt sibling, does that mean that we might get some plots that span throughout both Silver Sweet and Loathed Love?

Teresa

Is there an artist singing voice that sounds the most like how you picture Tom sings?

Sof

Because of which chapter/ mention/ whatever were people shipping them ?? I would love love to reread now that we know he technically is the love interest!!!

Ang💙 (Oliveira’s Version)

All my questions I alr know are too spoiler heavy so I havent asked BUT I just NEEDDD to know how is Audrey is gonna move in, there’s no way that girl is pulling a Ben and taking the couch😭 will tom be on tour at that point in time & Ben and Eliot will room together and she takes Tom’s room??!??? What is the time jump exactly between Silver Sweet and Loathed Love? Will there be a time jump with the other CE books as well? What was it about Audrey that made you choose her as the third cobalt in the CE series to find love? Will Audrey and Birdie or Audrey and Guy first meet in SS?

Yasti

There was literally nothing that happened in the books that people were using as a basis for this ship!! It was just something fun and random that people here on Patreon came up with for a little bit a couple years ago 🙂‍↕️💗✨ It was basically just fate!!

Tori

Slightly off topic perhaps … but because we got the Loathed Love drop early - does that mean we might have Beckett’s love interest(s) confirmed soon too? Maybe June because it’s Pride Month? Waiting as patiently as I can to know!!

Miriam

Ohh I wondered that too !

madsmoral

I don’t know if this is too spoiler-y but can we get any hints as to how what happened at the frat will affect Audrey in her book?

Nish

What makes Audrey initially gravitate toward the kind of relationship she expects rather than the kind she actually needs?

Nish

How would you describe Audrey and Birdie’s dynamic in three words?

Nish

We know Birdie is going to be the MMC in Loathed Love, but with this kind of love-triangle dynamic, what was the hardest part about balancing Audrey’s interactions with Guy and Birdie?

Nish

Tom and RJ scene questions: 1. Tom recognizes that RJ leaves him emotionally wrecked every time, yet he still sees RJ returning as hope instead of a warning. What does that say about Tom emotionally at this point in the story? 2. Tom spends most of this scene trying to convince himself of things he very clearly doesn’t believe. Was self-deception a big part of writing his POV? 3. This scene honestly feels less about sex and more about abandonment. Was that contrast important while writing Tom and RJ’s dynamic?

Teresa

Who would you say of the St. Pierre brothers was the hardest to write for and why?

Nish

Should we be nervous about how seriously the brothers take promises in French, and will that promise/oath tradition become more emotionally significant later in the story? Could breaking one of those promises permanently damage a sibling relationship, and do they ever regret the promises they’ve already made to each other? Also, did Charlie promise Beckett in French that he wouldn’t get involved with anyone in his company or not?? I need to knowww please 😭

Nish

Silver sweet chapter 1: 1. Tom reacts to the idea of Ben preferring Eliot as a roommate almost like it’s rejection. How much of Tom’s identity is tied to being needed by the people he loves? 2. Tom says Eliot would drown in his problems with him, while Charlie tells him to learn how to be alone. Which brother is actually giving Tom the healthier advice? 3. Charlie immediately identifies that Tom’s real problem is his inability to be alone. How easily can Charlie read him?

Marisa

If you are done with Loathed Love by the time this podcast records, could you give us a rough estimate of how long the book is?

Nabeeha

I was thinking this but Audrey is currently 16 and turns 17 in SS. So I don't think so because she would still be considered a minor but I do believe the two will meet in SS but their story won't start up until she is in college.

Nabeeha

I thought the rose was a symbol for their band. Like how people throw roses on stage after a performance!

fxshelbii

Was there any debate between Guy and Birdie or did you always plan for Audrey to date Birdie??? I was absolutely shocked. I did not see Birdie coming

fxshelbii

You said that for some of your Love interests you create soulmates and others just end off us together. It was mentioned in a podcast that you created Farrow as someone Moffy needed and his ‘perfect match” but for others it was they are who they are and they fall in love. How would you place Tom & Phoenix and Birdie & Audrey on this scale???

fxshelbii

I find it interesting Tom, who is ambitious to a fault and superstitious (has a lucky guitar) has never made a New Year’s resolution before??? (Mentioned in SS chapter 1) Is there a reason for this? It’s nagging at my brain a little lol

fxshelbii

In chapter one of SS Tom mentions his therapist is he still currently seeing a therapist? Also does Tom choose to or is it something his parents lead him too Like as mentioned in the Emergency Yacht Meeting bonus it was mentioned in his sophomore year Rose and Connor made Eliot see a therapist if he wanted to keep acting because he was struggling with the Death of a Salesman. But I could totally see Tom wanting to see a therapist as his own choice without influence just to have somebody else to complain too and seek advice

Marisa

“To have someone else to complain to” 😂😂😂😂

Nish

If the St. Pierre brothers had to describe each of the Cobalts in one word, what words would they choose?

Nish

What three words would Audrey use to describe Birdie, and what three words would Birdie use to describe Audrey?

AJ

I cannot fathom her book not being pink!

AJ

The most important question - why do you keep doing Tom so dirty?? -Leo, future brother in law (allegedly) -Birdie, future brother in law -Farrow, cousin’s husband -RJ, future sister in laws cousin -Chef Michael, still family private chef

AJ

Also, I cannot wait for Phoenix to find out about his Birdie crush. Me, personally, I’d take this to my grave, but I don’t see Tom being able to not spill

Marisa

In Chapter 2 of SS when Phoenix introduces himself, Tom responded with “And I’m Gerard Way” (loved this, so funny!!). Did you always have him responding with Gerard Way, or was there initially a different name Tom says? Did you pick Gerard Way as a way to show the reader that Tom’s musical taste is similar to My Chemical Romance, and that this is a frontman Tom looks up to and tends to emulate?

Marisa

Tom describes Phoenix’s tattoos as resembling old woodcut engravings with Roman numerals underlying some of them. Other than the character art from Lilytea, are there any other examples of what this may look like? Maybe a celebrity or model that has a similar tattoo design?

Marisa

Now that we have the first 2 chapters + 1 page of SS and the LL character art & love interest reveal, I’m curious what’s on the horizon for Cobalt Empire announcements. I know we can expect the LL cover & blurb (is that still slated for June?), but do you anticipate any other major CE reveals prior to SS releasing in August?

Marisa

How do you decide when to drop a big reveal? For example, the SS chapters were at night (for those of us on the east coast), while the LL reveal was in the morning. Is it random, or do you plan the drops based on when you know you have time in your day to spend watching us freak out in the comments and chat rooms

Marisa

Hahaha! Love this! I don’t think I’ve seen it before

Marisa

I was absolutely shocked (and delighted) to find out that Birdie was Audrey’s love interest. I find it so interesting that out of all the couples in the Like Us Series and Cobalt Empire (that we know of) Audrey was truly the only one who didn’t have any teases whatsoever in books published prior to her announcement (not including Moffy, but he’s an outlier as the first second gen story-there was no opportunity to tease his love interest). Was that a conscious effort on your end to not have her partner teased at all on page? Or was it just natural for her story?

Teresa

Hello, will you be revealing anymore excerpts of chapter 3 here on patreon or is that the last big snippet before SS releases?

Gloria

Can you describe Phoenix' thoughts upon meeting Tom for the first time and what we was feeling/thinking while hearing/playing his song for the first time?

claireeeee

Do u foresee audrey and tom getting closer now that their love interests are siblings?

claireeeee

Any teases about connor and rose’s support of Audrey doing the quiz bowl!? Are they super excited and will they attend? (ps. THEY HAVE TO SO PLEASE INCLUDE THEM COMING)

claireeeee

Can u tease a “something we won’t understand quote/word/phrase” from both books? Like for addicted to u it could be “LHFB” or it could be “truth or dare” from addicted after all. Something people won’t get until they read the book!

Marisa

At what point in the developmental stage did you decide to make Birdie the “hot drummer”? Was it while you were still developing the Like Us books, or was it when you were getting closer to writing cobalt empire? When did you start to make a conscious effort to not give any physical description of the hot drummer on page?

Marisa

I was like what’s “LHFB”….then I realized 😂😂 So good. What an iconic quote

Marisa

I am guessing that you will keep Phoenix and Birdie’s Pinterest bios redacted until after SS releases since a majority of readers don’t know about the plot twist yet. Can you give us a tease of what their bios will say (if there aren’t any other spoilers involved)?

Skuh

You have said that the order of the boards on your Pinterest account show how much each character is in the book. Is the order on Pinterest right now set with how much they appear in Silver Sweet?

Skuh

Was it on purpose to have the first three love interests in the cobalt empire all be drummers? Will this be the first coalition of love interests🫢

Teresa

Where does Birdies intellect fall when comparing it to Connor or Farrow or Harriet or Charlie etc..

Marisa

Oh also, can we get a scale of intelligence ranking Connor, Charlie, farrow, and Harriet (and yes that’s my predicted order lol)

🕷️

Not related to Silver Sweet and Loathed Love but I was going through my collection of Roxlie edits on TikTok and there’s a lot of anticipation around their book. Did you guys knew that Charlie’s book would be the most awaited and or were you guys genuinely shocked by all the attention Charlie and Roxanne got? Also, while we are at it, please blink twice if they are book four🩷

Theblues2

From the WIP snippet it seems like Rose and Audrey have similar inner monologues. Would you say this is accurate and was it purposeful?

h

Phoenix is the first lead since Farrow that is appearing for the first time in their own book (barring WWW characters). Because of this we know much less about him than any other main characters going into their own story. Can you tease if he has connections to any of your characters other than Birdie?

Marisa

Now that you are wrapping up Loathed Love, do you get to have a (well deserved) break before starting CE #4?

Teresa

Which St. Pierre Couple was your most fun to write, what that makes them the most different as they both start out as antagonistic alittle and which St.Pierre brother was the most difficult to write for?

Carrie

What was your favorite line in chapter 1 and 2 of Silver Sweet? There were so many great ones already!

Carrie

I love all the insights we got into Tom’s personality in the first two chapters. Which trait/aspect shown so far do you guys think is most important to the storyline? If that’s too spoilerly can you say which trait most defines him as a person? (Ex. His tenacity, his hatred of silence/loneliness, etc)

Marisa

At the end of Burn Bright I felt pretty confident that CE #2 would be Tom’s book. You guys did a great job setting up his story as a side plot in BB. Do you think that we will similarly be able to deduce who CE #4 will be about while reading LL?

Carrie

How did you guys come up with Birdie taking Phoenix stage name? Was it a twist you thought of before you created and introduced Phoenix or after (and if so why the twist?) Curious if it was always the plan or if you wanted to age up Toms LI so you did the switch, etc. it’s a cool twist so just want to know how it came about!

Carrie

You guys have now written three meet cutes for the Cobalt Empire! Which meet cute was the hardest to write and which was the easiest and why? (Without spoilers of course if Audreys meet cute is chosen since we haven’t read Audrey and Birdies meet cute yet)

Carrie

How was the process of writing Tom’s song Fire You Feel? Was it a challenge since it is different from normal writing, was it fun and you loved it like you guys mentioned you loved writing the tweets and posts in the Like Us series? And I have to ask, did you guys create a tune to go along with it and if so can you guys hum or sing it! (No worries if y’all don’t want to sing out loud though)

Teresa

What is one thing that makes Audrey perfect for Birdie and vice versa? Same question for Phoenix and Tom.

N

I know this is not a question from the First chapters so feel free to skip this one, but could we know why Connor chose to not give Charlie the safe sex talk in the recent bonus scene or is the reason hush hush 🤫

Darby

which of Audrey’s brothers will most dislike/distrust Birdie?

Marisa

And also Tom! Why wasn’t he included (not for pregnancy but for sti’s?)

Teresa

You've said that Toms book spands a year. Will we see how Birdie celebrates his birthday in Silver sweet?

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I know there’s a specific order of characters boards on your Pinterest from most to least important… have you guys already changed the board order for silver sweet?

🕷️

How is loathed love going? And in cobalt empire series which book was the most fun to write about

Teresa

Hi KBR for Roxanne fans which book Silver Sweet or Loathed Love would you say there favorite would be ?

Teresa

In a past podcast you said the soul of Kiss The Sky was closest to Silver Sweet , can you go into alittle detail on what that means?

Teresa

From books youve read over the years are there any couple relationships that is similar to how you see Tom/Phoenix and Audrey/Birdie?

Mairy⊹

I’m very curious about how audrey’s dynamic will be like with guy, can we get a hint?

Mairy⊹

This might be too spoilery, buutt is there a chance we might see the Carraways going on tour in SS or LL??

Mairy⊹

Are we going to see Pheonix & Birdie meeting Rose and Connor in each one their books??

Mairy⊹

One word do describe Audrey *FINALLY** living with her brothers??

Mairy⊹

is there any chance we might see a Leo/Joana interaction in SS or LL?? (This is too spoilery but I’m shooting my shot😭)

Teresa

Once you finish Loathed Love and take a deserved break will you be completing Frog and Quinn story or do you plan to go straight into book 4? Also have you discussed when you plan to finish Jane and Thatchers wedding bonus scenes?

Mairy⊹

How long in LL going to be?? Can we expect another chunky book??

Mairy⊹

Is any of the boys going to be throwing a party in either SS or LL ?? Im soo curious to see how chaotic it is

Skuh

Can you guys talk about the differences and similarities between Charlie’s views/relationships with Ben, Tom, and Audrey? Particularly with Ben and Audrey because they are both considered naive and soft but it seems like Charlie has clashed with Ben the most…

🕷️

Is it possible that you guys would ever share the og blurb of Silver Sweet?

Skuh

Oh this was already answered sort of in the podcast about her relationship with her brothers🙃so I’ll just ask if this has changed at all through the years?

N

True!

Teresa

Do you have more pins for Tom/Phoenix/Birdie/Audrey that you plan to drop soon on pinterest ?

Teresa

Can you tell us what came first did you know the type of guy that would be perfect for Tom and Audrey. Who did you create first Birdie or Phoenix or both at the same time. Some characters you write werent initially created to be love interests, was that the case with the St. Pierres. Lastly why did you choose St. Pierre as a last name?

Teresa

If its not to much of a spoiler can we do a rapid fire This or that for Phoenix and Birdie. Cat or dog. Summer or Winter. Early riser or late riser. Tattoo or piercings Mom or Dad For a vacation travel or stay local. Call or Text Beer or a Mixed drink. Sneakers or Boots Heartbreaker or Heartbroken. Cookies or Cake. Short Hair or Long Hair Notorious or Unnoticed. Horror or comedy. Love or Respected. PDA or no PDA. Logic or Emotions. Night in or Night out. Cook or Take out. Hostel or Five Star Hotel

Marisa

I’d love to see that

Carrie

So in Charming Like Us Chapter 7 and now in Chapter 1 of Silver Sweet we have seen Tom wanting to use Craigslist to find a drummer for his band. Has Tom ever successfully used Craigslist to get a band mate? And does he use Craigslist in general for anything else, or is it just his go-to option to try to find potential bandmates? I love how Charlie is always the one stopping him from using it lol

Marisa

In Chapter 3 page 1, Phoenix states that he feels “floaty as fuck” after meeting Tom. I interpreted this to having the same sentiment as “floating on cloud nine”, but it’s just said in a much cooler way. Do you remember how you came up with that line?

K

will we get to really see the girl squad (especially winona who we havent really seen in a while) and see the youngest girls dynamics in LL?

Fluff

One word you would use to describe Tom in SS?

Teresa

We don't see Audrey's interaction with men other than her brothers,cousins,father and uncles, how would you describe her interaction with them while in highschool and college confident, shy, relaxed etc..

Teresa

How much does Audrey make an appearance in Silver Sweet would you say the same amount as in Burn Bright or less or more?

Theblues2

Based on the WIP snippet, It seems like Rose and Audrey have similar inner monologues. Would you say that this is accurate? If so was it intentional?

Teresa

Is Birdies band famous enough for where he needs a bodyguard when he's out in public like the core families?

Marisa

It was so unexpected when you dropped the first page of Chapter 3! What made you decide to give us our first look at Phoenix’s POV at that time?Also, I don’t think anyone on here would mind if you continued the trend and dropped page 2…and then page 3…😂 **addendum to my question*** Nevermind!!!! You just dropped the whole chapter. What the heck!!! THANK YOU

frannypack

I think the ss early chapters are the first time it's noted the importance of promises made in French with the siblings. Is that something that has always been a thing? I'm remembering the promises made in French in burn bright and now they take on even more weight. Was it intentional to reveal this in the second book rather then bens?

AJ

Can you say which will likely be revealed first - Beckett’s love interest(s) or announcing which brother is book 4?

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I don't know if it's too spoilery but in Burn Bright the title was referenced in a conversation between Harriet and Ben so i was wondering if Silver Sweet and Loathed Love will be mentioned as well?

Alê

After chapter 2 of SS, I was wondering how Tom's voice sounds like. Which singer's his voice could be compared to?

Teresa

If its a spoiler please skip. What is Tom and Audrey's idea of an ideal date?

Marisa

In a recent fizz hangout comment you mentioned that you were trying to figure out how to best give us our first look at birdie and had mentioned potentially posting an excerpt of SS with Phoenix and birdie. A few days later we got the LL WIP with Audrey and Birdie! What made you decide that scene was the perfect intro for Birdie?

Carrie

Loved the surprise drop of SS chapter 3. We saw Phoenix put his phone on airplane mode and wander the city with music as his background noise for 24 after he was overwhelmed by his scene with Tom (lol). Is this normal for Phoenix, does he often go radio silent and wander the streets to music when overloaded?

Carrie

Probably a spoiler but asking anyway! Chapter 3 Birdie says the Nutcracker is now his bitch! Does this mean that Phoenix worked in the orchestra for the Nutcracker? As a backup drummer?!? If so, super spoiler but does he know Beckett!!!!!!

Carrie

Phoenix zoned out and lost track of time, leading him to missing practice or a performance in Chapter 3 where he had to cover for Stewie so Birdie had to cover for him. Is it common for Phoenix to lose track of time and be late for things? And if so is this part of why it hasn’t worked out with the previous bands he was in?

Teresa

What is your top 3 favorite pins from their pinterest board that best represent Audrey, Phoenix and Birdie ?

Teresa

In one of the tropes for Silver sweet you had 'Dark secret' , can you tell us if it applies to both Tom and Phoenix or just one of them ( you don't have to say who)

Marisa

In SS Chapter 3 Phoenix went to the library for 4 hours. Does he go to the library often? What does he do there? Journal? Read? Listen to music? Can we please get a bonus of him applying for a library card? 😂😂While I loved this detail, I don’t think any of us pegged him as the library type.

Marisa

What made you decide to drop Chapter 3 of silver sweet when you did??

Marisa

How excited are you for Silver Sweet and Loathed Love to release? Do you have a sense of the hype within your readership? I know here on Patreon everyone seems extremely excited to see what you have in store for us.

Marisa

How excited are you to start book 4? Is it bittersweet that the actual writing of the series is halfway over for you?

🕷️

By the time Silver Sweet comes out you guys will be done writing two books in cobalt empire so I was wondering you could give us our of context hints that us readers won’t understand until after we’ve the books

Teresa

What can you tease about Guys character and how he sees Audrey?

Teresa

Does Kinnney, Vada or Winona go to college in NY and if so do any of them go to school with Audrey? Also once we get Audreys POV are there any bonus scenes you hope to write with Audrey visiting Vada and Winona while at school in NY?

Hailey

I’m assuming the dark secret trope is for Phoenix, would I be right with that? 😛

🕷️

How many words is Loathed Love approximately?

Teresa

What can you tease about the St. Pierres entire family dynamic (including parents) ? Is there a family dynamic that you've previously written in other series that is similar ?

Teresa

Who are you most excited for us to see Phoenix interact with, all the cobalts or Birdie with all the cobalts?

Carrie

I loved chapter 1 of SS so much. How did you guys decide which characters got on page interactions with Tom (Eliot and Charlie) versus brief mentions but not direct interactions (Beckett and Ben). And how did you decide what details of those characters were shown?

Carrie

I’m always so curious about the behind the scenes construction of your books!

Teresa

Can we expect to see Audrey cooking baked goods for her crushes in Loathed Love?

Teresa

How would Phoenix and Birdie react if they were stuck on an elevator separately and if you can answer with the other brothers love interests ? So Phoenix with Audrey and Birdie with Tom.

Krista & Becca Ritchie

Thank you all for the questions!!! We've begun prepping this podcast, so anything past this comment won't make it on the pod. Can't wait to dive into all the reveals!!! xoxo

N

This is so off topic so I apologize in advance and also feel free to skip this one, but when I saw this month’s extra and read how in the first draft Charlie was supposed to sneer in Harriet’s ear, it reminded me of the scene where the girl touches Charlie without consent and Harriet narrates that Charlie snarls into the girls ear. I wanted to ask wether we would potentially find out what Charlie said to her or is that a spoiler