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Moms & Dads! Discussing the Core 8 Parenting Styles

You all voted and the results are in for October 🎉🍂🎃 We'll be dishing about the different parenting styles between the "Core 8" parents: Connor & Rose, Lily & Lo, Ryke & Daisy, and Garrison & Willow! They all have unique and different ways of parenting from one another throughout many years, so we're excited to dish about the Core 8 as parents!!

Let us know in the comments if you have any questions about the Core 8's parenting styles that you'd like us to chat about! 

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Marcades

Omg i’m so excited 😭🫠💜 Anything core 8 related is so much fun!! Can’t wait

space babe

i've been suggesting all about ben and all about eliot for months 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔

kylie

do any of them spank their kids?

kylie

is there anything the kids resent about the way they were parented?

kylie

is there anything specific their parents did that the kids plan on using when they’re parents?

Miranda Lefebvre 🌷🤍

What is the difference in their parenting from when their kids are under 18 and then over 18? Also I know that Lo parents Moffy different from the other kids, do the kids ever discuss this and are they resentful that Moffy is treated more like a friend than a kid?

kylie

are the other kids jealous of how the parents treat moffy and jane?

Elizabeth

Yay!! I love more core 8 content. My questions are about Lily and Lo. - in the like us series It looks like Lily was the good cop and Lo is the bad cop. But was there instances where the roles were reversed? - How was sex and alcohol discussed? We saw a bit with Moffy but how was is handled with the other kids? - Did any of The Hale children resent being the kid of someone so famous? - How did Lily react when she first discovered that Xander was dealing with similar issues she did?

Zeynep

what was the cobalt children's reactions to their parents's sex tapes? or how did connor and rose tell them? i think u guys dived into this a little in sinful like us also :)

Sioned

Love this!! 1 - what are the biggest difference between the core eights parenting from each other? 2 - when did the parents give each child the ‘sex talk’? 3 - when did each kid find out about lily, lo’s, and rykes addictions and how did they react? 4 - do willow and garrison every regret only have one kid? (Love vada!!!) 5 - did Connor and rose do the IQ test with all their children? 6 - at what age did rose and Connor realise that Jane was a genius? 7 - we see in nearly all the books including SKOP that rose and Connor don’t lambast their kids on being more polite or having better manners I.e. feet on table, speaking unkindly to their siblings (charlie is the culprit here 😂) speaking disrespectfully to their aunts and uncles. We also know that rose doesn’t want to control the environment co crazily like her mother, but do they ever have like a firm talk with their kids when they cross a boundary, and if there are boundaries what are they? 8 - of all the parents who would they say was the most difficult to raise? (For each family.) 9 - how did lily and lo deal with getting xander out of the house when he was homeschooled? 10 - did xander ever self harm and if so how did lily and lo deal with that? 11 - since the meadows girls are very well known for their vulgar language (love them for it!) did ryke and daisy every have boundaries with when and where they could use it? Like ik for sure my parents would be really disappointed if I used it at them like saying “go fuck yourself, you ppiece of shit” and so on. (I would never say they btw, by parents are the best!) 12 - when jane said shit in French did connor and rose ever have a talk with her about it? 13 - what where the all the kids first swear words and how old were they? 14 - we know that for WND they’ve banned swearing once (from what we know) have they done it multiple times and it so how many goblets have they given him? 😂 15 - how did you both decide on what kind of parents they’d be? 16 - did any of them smack they’re children? I can’t see it happening so if they didn’t what was there reasoning behind not doing it? I’m feel like Connor would write a essay on it if he could 😂 17 - who has the highest IQ in the hale and meadows family? 18 - if the kids ever turned their homework in late what did the parents do? (All parents.) 19 - what was ryke and daisy go to punishment for small things? 20 - when the kids got phones where they allowed them all all times on did they have to give them in? 21 - where Connor and rose ever worried about their kids becoming addicts? 22 - at what age where the children allowed to drink? Like we know rykedaisy and lily and lo wouldn’t have alcohol in their house but we know Connor and rose love wine so we’re the kids every able to get ahold of it? And if so what was the punishment? 23 - did any of the kids sneak out and their parents know about but not tell them until they got back? 😂 24 - at what age where they allowed unlimited access to their trust funds? And because that unlimited access what where each child’s parameters? 25 - where rose and Connor ever worried about their kids having sexual experiences too young? 26 - where lily and lo every worried about their kids having sexual experiences too young? 27 - were rose,lily,and daisy ever worried about their girls accidentally becoming pregnant? 28 - did the kids enjoy krav magda? (I think I butchered that I don’t know what it’s called.) I’ve got so many more questions! Hopefully you can answer some of them 🥰🥰

Sioned

29 - at what age where the kids allowed to bring partners over to their bedrooms? 30 - did any of the parents have a ‘keep the door open’ rule? 31 - have any of the parents made rules all together to make sure none of the kids feel like left out or that things are unfair? 32 - can you guys let us know what the punishment was for the girl squad? We know it was the same but let us knowwwww!! (I thoroughly understand if you can’t though xx) 33 - since the parents have access to all their kids NDA’s have they ever approached their kids and asked why they have one with somebody? And then the kids had to explain it was a hookup? 34 - do rose Connor, lily lo, ryke and daisy ever regret something they did when raising the kids? 35 - does Connor know what Jane and thatcher had sex in his limo? The fans need to know dudes!! 😂

Illyana

Ooo this is a great podcast topic! My first question is: it's very clear that both in Lily and and Rose's households, they both have a way of asserting authority. While Lily may share a lot of loves like webtoons and comics with her kids, and Rose may share intellectual discourse with her gremlins, how does Daisy handle regulating the household? Having the buddy best friend system in her household? Do they all have curfews? How did the curfews change in each household as their kids got older? Was there ever fights with the kids cross-examining Daisy's parenting style and be like, "why can't you be more like (x) who lets her read/play games till x". And has this ever created parenting conflict with Ryke who is very much a pappa wolf and probably one to ground his kids? Right...? :)

Illyana

My second question is: what are each family titular regular traditions (equivalent to wednesday night dinners in the Cobalt household) in the Meadows and Hale houehold? And when did the parents decide to embark on these traditions?

Illyana

My third question is: What are some practical day to day lives that each family did tactically, to keep their kids humble? Even the Cobalts (or well most of them) are relatively humble and give back and don't capitalise over impressionable fans (*side eyeing kardashians*). So how do they do it? Did they give allowances? Did they have to do chores around the house? Did they get money for good grades? What are the separate decorums that the core 6 did in their day to day lives to get the like us gang to be so amazing.

Illyana

My fourth question is: There is, a lot of overlap between Garrison and Willow // Lily and Lo when it comes to the fact that they're super into nerdy /film fan stuff, and Garrison being a generationally similar guy to Lo. Do they have the most overlap in parenting style? In what day to day senses do you think they are similar?

kylie

what traits from the parents are most prominent in each kid?

Illyana

My final question (for now): The new parents in the KBR universe, Marrow and Jane and her Mando, how do they compare in parenting style to their parents? Coballoway and LiLo? And what are the major generational differences? From the big macro themes, to probably how they conduct themselves domestically, on a day to day basis?

kate

i’d like to know how they handle “parenting” their nieces and nephews? the kids are obviously very close and the families are together like all the time so are they very like “it takes a village” and step in if they are the ones around to hand out punishments or if they need help and advice or do they send them to their parents to handle that type of stuff. 2) do they agree on how to handle big things as a unit like when the kids get access to their trust-funds, their policies on drinking and drug use, punishments if the kids got up to trouble as a group… if it was appropriate for their kids to date their bodyguards 😛 haha etc. or is that delt with on a family basis (like connor and rose aren’t addicts are they less concerned if their kids use substances?) 3) how do the parents handle it if their kids are having a big fight (ben/xander charlie/moffy) do they stay out of it do they take their kids sides (without taking it out on the other kid obviously lol) does it make things tense between the adults or not really? 4) how do the parents go about developing a close and open relationship where their kids feel like they can go to them with them with any problems or questions (or have they not seceded in having that type of relationship with some of their kids) i’m looking forward to this topic 💖

madzz

I have a few questions, I am unclear if they fall under this topic. I hope atleast some are not spoilerly. - What would a regular school night be at each of the residences? - When was an instance when Rose and Connor needed more than baby sitting help? In terms of parenting. - How did each of the core 8 react to the few minutes that they thought they lost some/one of the children in the accident? - How would each of the core 8 show their affection/ appreciation/ anger/ disappointment to their children or neices and nephews? - Having huge businesses and children is tough to manage. How did each of them handle the work life balance? - How is the relationship between the abbeys and their parents? Do they ever reconcile? - Is Daisy more of a fun aunt invited to the kids only sleep overs? - In a hypothetical scenario, the kids end up in jail separately. There no bodyguards to help. Which uncle or aunt they reach out to if they are unable to reach their parents? Is there a person who would be contacted most often or least often? - Who among the core 8 have asked Garrison to spy on their children online? - If the kids get to swap parents for a day, which set of parents they might choose? - The children all have hobbies very similar to their parents, except probably Ben and Maximoff. Did they naturally not show inclination to other families activities? None of the Cobolt children rock climb or love comic books. It's specially weird coz children usually like comic books. Or were they usually not invited as often? - Which child is most often a cause if concern among the core 8? Who is the least? -With all the children all falling in love, what are some of the concerns with respect to future spouses that the core 8 have? Are they worried about a Meg-xit happening to their family? They are royalty after all. - What happens when one of the children falls in love with an opportunist, or gold digger? What will the core 8 do?

shosh

in SKOP we see ryke and daisy make the decision to raise their children away from the public eye with more privacy than the hales and cobalts. however, throughout the like us series we see sulli really struggle with fame more so than her cousins (e.g. on fancon tour, with the triad, with the baby). we also see how everyone is very cautious about winona’s privacy. do ryke and daisy regret the decision they made in SKOP? do they wish their kids were more used to fame like the hales and cobalts?

shosh

did rose and connor ever have a talk about the sex tapes with their kids? how did that convo go?

kylie

that’s such a good question omg

Sioned

That’s such a great question but it’s already been answered in sullis books. Daisy says she’s ‘never regretted giving her that choice’. But who knows, she could have been placating sulli (I highly doubt it) either way hopefully they answer it :)

shosh

im wondering if connor and rose have had a conversation with beckett about his attendance at sex parties?

Rebekah

How do Rose and Connor handle Becketts drug use?

Sara

How does each couple handle it when they disagree on parenting decisions?

Farida

who is most similar to their parents?

Farida

what do lily, lo, rose and connor think about maximoff and charlie’s fights?

Farida

how similar are charlie and connor?

Farida

how does rose help beckett with his ocd?

Farida

how similar are lo and garrison’s parenting style?

Anna

A great example - Special Bonus Scene: Connor Answers Charlie's Call. You can see that they both feel frustrated about being so knowledgeable. Whilst Connor uses it to benefit himself and those he loves, Charlie tries to escape his head so he feels stuck. In the Special Bonus Scene Connor tells Charlie that he shouldn't focus on the parts of life that make him feel like the world is shrinking in on him. Connor shows his cards (intentions), but Charlie keeps them close to his chest. That's why Charlie seems like such a mystery to so many. He doesn't care about praise (being given credit for his deeds) like Connor does. In the MLU he helps Luna with her fics but doesn't advertise it. He doesn't change himself like his father does with other people. In CLU he helps Maximoff get back H.M.C. Philanthropies. Charlie doesn't act differently around Ernest Mangoldlike like Connor did with Scott to get back at him. I think they both have similar intellectual struggles but they deal with them differently. And while Connor is calm Charlie is passionate and a little hot tempered.

Meaghan Wilson

In SKOP you saw a disagree between the core 6 at Disney over telling the older kids about their past and allowing them to watch WAC; were there any other major disagreements over the years on parenting issues?

Sioned

Love this

Ella

is there any parenting decision/technique/wtvr that one set of parents did/do that another set of parents copied and/or really liked?

Ella

which pair has the most different parenting style from the others? which pair have the most similar parenting style?

Meg

What was the punishment for the girl squad when they snuck out?

G

It’s mentioned in skop that Beckett has asked Connor and Rose to ‘do something’ twice to help Charlie with his frustrations.. what were those two times and what did they do to help?

Yasti

What happened when Audrey fessed up about the Hot Santa leak? I feel so bad for her but did Connor and Rose use it as a teaching moment or did they do something else?

Yasti

Out of the entire girl squad, who's the most likely to get grounded?

Yasti

I just remembered this! What did Lily and Lo do after Kinney snuck out to Moffy's bachelor party?

Yasti

Which kid (including Audrey, even though they're not quite finished raising her) gave Connor and Rose the least trouble (and who gave them the most)? Who does Ryke think was the easiest kid to babysit? At what age did Lily and Lo start letting Kinney dye her hair black?

Yasti

I just realised that Ryke and Daisy are going to be the first empty nesters from the Core 6, along with Willow and Garrison. Are they dreading that or not so much? I remember reading in a bonus scene about Connor and Rose kind of dreading when it'll eventually be themselves alone in the Cobalt mansion, so I was wondering if those weekly Girl Squad sleepovers ever came to fruition?

Yasti

Do all the kids get cars for their 16th birthdays?

Yasti

Why did Connor and Rose let Eliot start smoking a pipe at WND (especially because he was so young. My parents would have never, so I'm really curious! :D)? How did that conversation even go??

Yasti

Who is the strictest set of parents?

Yasti

When Moffy asked Jane to spread the news about him trying alcohol for the first time through the family gossip network, did she go to one of the Core 8 first (and if so, who?) or was it a sibling/cousin?

Yasti

Do the Hales, Meadows, Cobalts and Abbeys have different rules about dating? Like at what age their kids are allowed to date or have their SOs sleep over?

Yasti

If Vada wanted to be on WAC in the current timeline in the books, would Willow and Garrison allow that?

Yasti

Did Connor and Rose ever say anything to Charlie when he argued with/said mean stuff to Ben when they were kids? I know they're not going to intervene now because they're both adults and can deal with it themselves but surely when Charlie and Ben were younger they would have thought it was necessary to be civil at least? Especially because Charlie is a lot older than Ben.

Sioned

It’s in a bonus somewhere. He was 15 from what I remember and it was some type of herb

Ella

which kid was the easiest to parents for each family? is there a child the gillow find the easiest to babysit?

Ella

which parent is the most popular within the kids?

Sydney Johnson

It was in SKOP that daisy is the one that is harder on the girls because ryke is soft and gives in to what they want more. I wonder how that works.

Sydney Johnson

I also wonder what they call dasy on for help bc she has a lot of experience on depression and trauma at a young age.

katelin

What parent do the kids teachers like the best? Do the core 8 ever discipline the others children?

Kaytlynn

I JUST BOUGHT THE NEW COVERS!! IM SO EXCITEDDD

Illyana

In honnor of Halloween, can you talk about how the parents conduct the month of Halloween? Do they celebrate it together? What would be the fav halloween movies you would designate to each fam? How would the house decorations decor differ? Which kids get scared on halloween? And how do the parents coax them to still celebrate it? And most important question of all... Can u go on the record and confirm, deny and expand on... if the wednesday night dinners in the month of halloween are HALLOWEEN THEMED and what would they be eating, drinking and trivia-ing over?

Sioned

we all know rose has OCD and that it usually flares up when things are not tidy and she feel out of control. have there ever been any fights/arguments in which connor needs to mediate when the kids don't keep the communal ares of the house clean? or have rose and connor had to calm beckett down when his OCD flares up due to his family/cousins not keeping things orderly?

Sioned

do each family have a set of house rules and if so what are they?

Sioned

we know that lo and lily talk to their kids about addictions and drugs quite a bit since its affected them loads but have rose and connor ever had that dissolution wit their kids? and if so what did they say

Sioned

have lily and lo ever walked in on luna vaping/smoking/doing drugs in her room? also have rose and connor ever walked in on their kids doing the same?

Sioned

what did rose and connor say to audrey when they found out she got drunk in FLU?

Sioned

why did lo ground luna for getting tongue piercing? would rose, connor and ryke, and daisy do the same?

Sioned

who would you say are the strictest parents and the most relaxed?

Sioned

why did you guys decided to write so many characters with a smoking habit? since we know rose hates cigarettes and connor dislikes anything that basically makes you less intelligent. plus ryke, lo, and lily all have addictions so are weary about those things.

Marbella A

Do the other parents (excluding Rose and Connor) know about Beckett's cocaine problem and Elliot's drinking incident and all the other things the older Cobalt's do? If so will we be seeing them get involved in the kids lives more in the Cobalt boys books(if those are written), have the other parents spoken to R & C about it because we know that they knew about the cocaine issue but none of the parents did anything. Could you guys talk more about why they didn't get involved (if that doesn't include spoilers of course). Thanks!

Ellieeeee

When was it that Rose started to notice her ocd in Beckett? Did she get him diagnosed? Was it spoken about within the family?

Yasti

Bless you for asking this because I 100% forgot about this even though it’s literally written down in my notes app 💓💓

Sioned

💓💓

Teresa

Does Garrison brothers have any children?

Teresa

Do Garrison and Willow ever regret not having another child?

Teresa

Does Lo still grieve over his father? And do you think if Jonathan was still alive how Lo raised his kids would be different and if so how would they be?

Teresa

How did you come up with how many boys Rose and connor would have? Did you do have storirs for the boys planned out each time you introduced them or did you want to really push having another daughter until the last minute?

kylie

we know rose and kinney are most alike, and loren and charlie are as well. who would you compare connor, ryke, daisy and lily to?

kylie

when jane moved out and took lady macbeth, were r&c upset about it at all? or were they relieved

Sarah

So in my opinion, Connor & Rose are too hands off when it comes to parenting. For example Charlie at Disneyland. If my young kid (who is famous, making the risk for kidnapping higher) wandered off I would lose my damn mind and he’d have been in a back pack with a leash on it. That’s terrifying, and now Beckett and cocaine. They’re just sitting on it. Why? He could kill himself accidentally and I feel like that should matter more. It puts a lot of strain on the other kids to get Beckett off drugs. Shouldn’t they be more involved? What is Lo, Ryke’s, and Daisy’s take on this.

Sarah

Also with Rose & Connor why did they think age 6 was the correct age for her to make decisions about appearing on the show?

Sarah

Is Audrey still failing gym and how do all the parents respond to failing grades.

Sioned

love this

Sarah

When it came to sex and the kids were under 18, did the bodyguards have to notify the parents? Aren’t NDAs involved? If so, how did those discussions go?

Sarah

Do the kids have chores?

Lauren Johnson

I know that Rose and Connor try not to get involved in arguments between their children because they would like for them to solve it on their own, but what does Connor think about Charlie’s problem with Maximoff? Is he aware that Charlie is jealous of Maximoff in terms of his relationship with his siblings and cousins, and his romantic relationship with Farrow? How does he deal with that?

Lauren Johnson

Does Connor worry more about Charlie than his other children, because he perhaps relates to him a lot and knows how difficult life is for him?

Lauren Johnson

Does Connor believe that Charlie will find his perfect person like he found it in Rose?

Theblues2

This doesn’t have to do with the topic of this podcast but I have to know if you guys have watched Hocus Pocus 2. The Sanderson sisters remind me so much of Rose, Lily and Daisy, especially the ending of the movie and sister camaraderie.

Evie N

In the new book unlucky like us will we see more of Lily and Luna together? And how Lily went through feeling ashamed of herself and now Luna feels that as well.

Illyana

With suffering from anxiety and OCD, coupled with being the go to problem solver in the core 6- How does the added element of a parent affect Rose Calloway's anxieties on a day-to-day basis? How does she cope healthily with also being a business woman? How does Rose wind down in the evenings? Assuming that reading comics or watching movies does that for Lily and going camping does that for Daisy, what does Rose do? How does she spend her downtime alone?

Illyana

As parents, what is a general routine day in the life of Daisy, Rose and Lily? What time do they wake up? Who workouts in the mornings vs. evenings? Do they share carpool shifts? Is Lily having morning s*x or only evening times? What time is dinner time? What time does Rose comeback from work? Do the girls carve out time to help the kids with homework?

Danielle

How does Connor feel about Audrey dating? Is he more protective of her because she is the youngest?

Sioned

Hey! I can’t find your comment about what kind of x-men the kids are more like. Did you delete it? xx

Illyana

Nope didn't delete it! It should be under this week's hangout thread :)

Illyana

What are the different households parental guides when it comes to consuming media (books, tv)? I assume Cobolloway let the kids consume any media despite the rating but what about the meadows and hales? How does Lo deal with Kinney watching horror and rated R novels? What about Winona?

Sioned

Ah alright. I just forgot where I responded

Sioned

what mutant characters would lily and lo say their kids/cousins are? Or who do lily and lo think their kids/nephews and nieces are most like?

Sioned

When did ryke and daisy give sulli and nona the sex talk?

Anna

At what age were the kids allowed to watch PoPhilly and WAC? Did all core 6 or core 8 parents talk about it or did each set of parents decide on the matter separately?

Safiyyah R

You’ve mentioned that Rose overheard Charlie having sex in high school, how do you think each parent would’ve dealt with that situation with their own child?

marelyn 💕

Do the Core 8 help each other with ALL the kids if one set of parents aren’t around? like if the girl-squad are having a sleeping over at one of their houses and they all get in trouble how do the core 8 handle that?

marelyn 💕

You’ve mention before how Lo and Charlie are alike in some ways. Who would you compare the rest of the kids to the Core 8? I feel like Xander and Garrison are most alike #sadbois love them 🫶🏻

marelyn 💕

Do Garrison or Willow try to give advice to Xander about hiding from the spotlight since all three of them don’t like it?

Sioned

Did any of the parents have restrictions on makeup, certain clothes, and dating ppl when the kids lived with them? I feel like from what we know of lo he’s pretty strict compared to the rest of them but we also know connor and rose ground the kids so basically I’m just grasping at strands here!

Sioned

Did the families ever have chore charts and stuff? Which families had cleaners? What kids got pocket money and if so what for? Did they ever have like a spending cap and did they have to talk to their parents before buying things?

Sioned

You probably won’t include this but if you both (sending lots of love!) ever have children who would you most likely parent like/why? This can also be used for how you ‘parent’ your pets 😂 I’m so sorry if that’s too invasive. Would just love to know how you picked out how they all parent and if it came from you guys and what see yourself doing or whatever 💗💗

Lover girl

What does each set of parents value the most when raising their kids?

Sioned

did the parents ever have different rules for their different kids? since we know connor often talks about how ever child is different

Sioned

Do the core 8 as parents each have a go to "punishment" for their children? like if their kid did something not really small but not exactly big but they didn't deem it acceptable what would their go to "thing" be? hope that kid of makes sense xx

Sioned

how do you think the lily and lo would have reacted to having a child with old? how would they have dealt with it? same question for daisy and ryke and willow and garrison.

Sioned

As someone with ocd i deeply sympathies with beckett and rose. i too have a extremely large and chaotic family. So, struggling with disorder that craves control and order, you can guess that the two don’t mix terribly well. So my question(s) are what were/are things that his family did to help him and also things that didn't help him so much? (Specifics if you can tell us! 💓) How did they help calm him down/what did he do when things became too much for him? Also do you see a future for beckett where these things don't matter/control to him as much? As in his ocd won't be as bad? since rose was able to get better with time and certain people around her. I hope you do as I would hate for this to be something that he has to deal with for the rest of his life to the extent that he is now. All the love 💓

Sioned

did rose and connor ever formerly or informal tell the core 8 about elliots dyslexia? did they ever have to sit his other siblings down and explain why he was staying a grade back?

Sioned

did lily and lo ever go to a specialist for help on how do deal/manage xanders depression and being suicidal?

kylie

they’ve spoken about this before

marelyn 💕

okay so Xander is clearly a mommas boy (and I feel like Kinney is a daddy’s girl lowkey)…Can you tell us which parents each kids are closest to and why?

Sioned

If the parents were to have favourites, which I don’t believe they would, who would they be and why? (For all the core 8)

Sioned

Since we know daisy has struggled with depression, did lo and lily ever go to her for advice about xander?

Krista & Becca Ritchie

Thank you all for the AMAZING questions!! We can't wait to dish about the Core 8 as parents! We've begun prepping the podcast, so anything after this comment won't make it "on air" xoxo

Sioned

This most likely won’t make it on air, but oh well How do lily and lo get xander to do his school work/lessons? As we know he takes a lot of naps during the day and felt low a lot of the time when he was homeschooled. Not saying that was only during his homeschooling period, but I’m assuming he’s now better since he wanted to go to school. xxx

Sarah

Damn! I wanted to know what their retirement plans were once all the kids are gone.

Alice

This is not really about parenting styles but I just read the new troublemakers bonus scene and was wondering how does Connor feel about Eliot believing in god😂

Sioned

👏💓

Maud

i'm sorry this is random but i need to know where this was mentioned omg. if you remember pls tell me <3

Safiyyah R

haha no problem! It’s in the patreon bonus scene “Lily hears a thump” :)