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Will Creality learn from their mistakes? (Patreon)

Published:
2019-06-21 22:06:56
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Will Creality learn from their mistakes?

  • The ABL sensor will be changed to a more reliable one, but no thermal runaway 21
  • Thermal runaway working with no change in sensor 12
  • Neither problem addressed 24
  • Both issues fixed up properly 12
  • 2019-06-21
  • multiple choice
  • 69 votes
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Content

Dear Patrons,

Yesterday I received a CR-10S Pro Max, the box is enormous! I think Creality had a pretty rough time with the release of the CR-10S Pro, particularly with the lack of thermal runaway and the ABL sensor issues. This weekend's video will be unboxing, assembling, test prints for the new printer, but testing if they've fixed all of the issues wit the Pro.

Question is: do you think the ABL sensor and/or thermal runaway for this new model?

If there is anything else you'd like me to test and compare to the Pro, please leave it in a comment.

Michael

Comments

Donald Plummer

On my CR-10S Pro I've also had the power supply, fan duct, electronics fan, and left z-axis stepper motor fail. So many reliability issues! I'm interested to know if the number of samples taken for mesh bed leveling increased. I'm thinking of bumping mine up to 5x5

Tiff and Tim Rubans

I'd be surprised if they fix the thermal runaway..... So many products promised with the fix and none so far out of the factory work....

Brandon Wolfe

Creality has been super responsive and pro active with me, specially after my first Ender 3 debacle (even a year later I get check up calls). So... I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they fixed both issues.

Charles Ackerknecht

I think Creality have been trying to fix all issues that become uncovered and voiced. I give them the benefit too, thinking that they made a decent attempt to fix both issues. I don't put much faith on the ABL sensor, I'll always try to adapt a genuine BLTouch on every machine, you can't beat em!

Hamish McIntosh

mine won't home out the box updated crealities firmware on their advice then tried tiny machines now I'm betting told I have no warranty and have a 500 ukp paperweight won't home just goes through the actions and moves further away from bed no blue led on breakout board no indication of when the probe triggers

Teaching Tech
>>23984201

This one has two power supplies, which means a dedicated PSU just for the enormous heated bed. Sorry to hear you had so many issues.

David Spencer
>>23984201

it's more likely that they only have to produce one model for all markets rather than needing a different bed for 110 and 230/240 volts. Which really is lazy as a mains powered bed would be more efficient and heat up quicker.

David Spencer

They have probably fixed thermal runaway. There are lots of comments in the Ender 3 Facebook groups from people getting partial refunds on their upgrade boards because the firm ware they come with inst properly configured. so given its costing them money they have incentive to fix it. That said there is no way of knowing when the board in the max was flashed. I found Namoi Wu's review ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFo37IEkB0 ) about the Max interesting because even she said its a stupid printer out of the box.

Hamish McIntosh

pro if you do the 16 point level it climbs it's way up the gantry at each point it samples

antony sutton

Not a comparison request, but I am keen to see the follow-on for the Ender 5 upgrade

Teaching Tech

It's been interesting so far! Updates: Watched the Naomi Wu video linked by David above, it is clear they've improved the machine a fair bit since then. Firstly, the original ABL sensor has been replaced with a genuine BLtouch, so that is one thing that is great. The part cooling fan duct snapped in exactly the same place as it did on my Pro. First print too! As such, the first print looked terrible. The second print suffered from a huge layer shift early on. I had a breakthrough when I noticed how wobbly the upper bed surface was on top of the adjustment springs. With the BLtouch, I was confident of tightening the knobs the whole way down to effectively remove the springs all together. Current print is 80% through and looks good so far.

Teaching Tech

As you see from the video, no thermal runaway :(

Tiff and Tim Rubans

What a massive printer though, bugger about your timber table...

Brandon Wolfe

That’s such a huge disappointment. Maybe creality thinks thermal runaway is something different than what it really is...

kit russell

Hi Michael, we are still having this issues , trying to modify firmware , for BL touch , tiny machines works for BL. but losses machine O. (?) creality firmware

kit russell

The Creality firmware work for machine O..

kit russell

It looks like we just edit firmware to make them work together ? Some how . Very discouraging .. ( this sucks ) So kind of way ???