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TLDR: A pretty hefty Game Patch is rumored for February 25th, 2025 which might break a lot of mods!

There’s rumors swirling that tomorrow, February 25th, there is a patch releasing. This patch may be a pre-patch for the March 6th Game Business & Hobbies Expansion Pack, which would be unusual for Maxis. Typically, such a pre-patch is released the Tuesday or Thursday before the expansion pack. Still out of an abundance of caution, I’m warning you to please pause updates for the Sims 4 until the dust settles after tomorrow’s patch. You can read more about the upcoming Expansion here: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/buy/addon/the-sims-4-businesses-and-hobbies-expansion-pack

If it releases, your favorite Modders will be working to pick apart the many changes the pre-patch and later the expansion will bring to the game. While it can be difficult to predict how long your favorite mods will be out of commission, it typically takes us (TURBO, Basemental, and me) few hours to about 2 days to release a patch depending on how many fundamental systems are altered... and this pack looks like it may bring many! I’ll be in discord while patching tomorrow for those who want a more up to the moment prediction for how the patch is going, but for those who don’t use discord, I’ll be silently updating this post here as the process progresses, to keep you informed with how the patch is coming.Again, If you plan to play your modded sims 4 while we are working on the patch, then I highly recommend you disable updates. You can do this by opening the EA app, looking for the 3 horizontal bars in the upper left corner -> Settings -> hit the download tab just below settings (It’s not immediately obvious it’s a tab) then click off update games automatically, I’d probably disable ‘Enable Background Downloads’ just to be safe too. Then hit the 3 horizontal bars again and hit ‘go offline.’ This should prevent the sims 4 from auto-updating while your Mod Authors work on patches for you. If you want to be extra tinfoil, so shiny and chrome, you can disconnect your computer from the internet too, but that’s probably a bit cray cray, but we love things a bit crazy here don’t we?

Let's Get Down to Business Patch[Released]:

Patch Released, downloaded, analyzed.

Patreon Version of WW patched here.

Public Version of WW patched here.

Basemental Drugs compatible with the latest game patch!

Initial Patch for WP can be found here

Public Patches live, including here and the usual place!

 Thank you for your patience and understanding while your modders work on getting things patched. I want to apologize for the difficulties I’ve been having with productivity and to let you know that I very much appreciate all of your support. I’ve started working on an overhaul to prostitution which will be released in parts. Starting with an overhaul to the debt system which I’m working to release asap and ending with the introduction of a new Escort career.

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Lina Agoudal

ci sarà qualche novitaà nel aggiornamento?

Maxime Nantel

Thank you very much for this message. It will surely save a lot of players a lot of trouble. Thanks again and good luck with the update. Many thanks for your excellent work. My Sims wouldn't be the same without you.

Holly O’Connor

Shiz....if it already updated am I able to go back? Or do I just turn vanilla for however long xD :P

Holly O’Connor

ngl the more i look at my comment the dumber it looks...of course you cant go backwards lmao. its been a long day. Forgive me xD

Jasper Rose

Oops I auto updated and now every time I open my game my Easter hare sim just disappears :( I didn’t realize my game was auto updating tbh. Guess I’ll have to wait for your patch.

Iman

hey! do you know when you will updating this mod? hasnt worked since the update :(

NisaKsPervs

The mod should be in mostly working order. I do need to update succubi to support the custom tattoos (I thought I added support in with the pre-patch, but the game pack behaved a bit differently than I expected), but everything else should be working. I even started a small business in my save to test some things and work on adding official prostitution support. Are you getting any Last Exceptions? If so, please send me the latest one via a no account needed, free service such as pastebin.com If you aren't getting a LE, then you could try a minimal install test. Just WW, WP, load the game (without saving), if the game loads, then it's likely a third mod may be breaking upstream of WP causing other things to break.

Iman

thanks for replying! im not getting LE but i am getting a pop up when i load the game that says Mod needs to be updated and it sends me to the link to download. so im thats why i assumed it was outdated. its never done that until the game updated so im not sure how to fix it

NisaKsPervs

Ah, I see! It's likely you are missing a hotpatch then. Try removing the mod mentioned (if it's my mod then remove my mod from your mods folder) then redownload and install the latest version. Please note, that sometimes onedrive or other file syncing services can me sneaky and try to redownload old versions of mods into your mod folder. The latest version of my mod is linked in the post above for your convenience!

Iman

finally worked! had to delete it and redownload. thanks for your help!

Cherry_Bunny09

Hii, I’m having issues with the mod, I can’t access the piercing parlor on the sim’s pc and also can’t find the Tam Explorer. It just doesn’t show up on the pc.

NisaKsPervs

Hey Cherry, this typically happens when the mod is installed incorrectly.  Please pay special care to how deep you place my files in your mod folder.  Script mods can't be further than 1 subfolder deep from the root (Mods) folder.   This means 'Documents / Electronic Arts / The Sims 4 / Mods / NisasWickedPerversions / files go here` is okay but 'Documents / Electronic Arts / The Sims 4 / Mods / Some Folder / NisasWickedPerversions / files go here` is not.  Also make sure you have the latest version of WW and Basemental drugs installed (the latest public/free versions are fine too) and if you are getting any Last Exception files (called LEs for short) then please send them my way. Also, make sure you are testing with a Young Adult or older sim.

Cee King

Any time in the future when we will be able to go back to control prostitution sex? It’s all on automatic now and I would like to be able to control it fully.

NisaKsPervs

I'll be looking into adding support for this too strip clubs and brothels. Thank you for the suggestion and showing interest in this feature!

rabidbitez

Hi! I'm having issues and I'm not sure if the mod is working fully? I remember when I had the older version that there used to be a separate settings option for this mod and now there isn't? I also can't access the prostitution system of the mod via in game computer. It's just not an option for me. However the traits are showing up and working just fine? Also occults don't show up. I have downloaded the mod correctly I believe by unzipping and placing the unzipped file into my mods folder and it does show up in my mods

NisaKsPervs

Hey Ivanzeskele! A few ideas. First the most common; Please pay special care to how deep you place my files in your mod folder.  Script mods can't be further than 1 subfolder deep from the root (Mods) folder.   This means 'Documents / Electronic Arts / The Sims 4 / Mods / NisasWickedPerversions / files go here` is okay but 'Documents / Electronic Arts / The Sims 4 / Mods / Some Folder / NisasWickedPerversions / files go here` is not. The tam explorer not showing up on the computer, or the tam tab on the phone means that for some reason my scripts aren't loading into your game. Next, make sure script mods are enabled in your settings menu (the base game settings menu, I've had a few people forget to re-enable script mods after an update). It's also possible onedrive is doing fuckery. OneDrive is notorious for messing around with the sims 4 modding folder. Finally, If you are getting any Last Exception files (called LEs for short) then please send them my way. Thank you for your support! We'll get this figured out!!!

rabidbitez

The script folder is in the correct folder. I'm not getting any last exceptions either

NisaKsPervs

Hmm, okay. Next thing, make sure you go into your base game settings menu and be sure script mods are still enabled. Then make sure you are testing with a Young Adult or older sim. If the tam explorer still doesn't show up, it may be time to do a 'minimal install' test. Rename your mods folder to something like Mods2, create a new Mods folder, and copy just WW and WP into the new folder. Load your game. But do not save. This is important, if you save then you may find lots of CC and custom traits and things removed from your sims when you restore your mods folder. Test, if it's working then it's likely some other mod may be interfering with WW/WP in some way. To find out which mod, you'll need to do a 50/50 test. Which I can provide more guidance on if needed.

AsTrOpHiLe

Hi there, I've been getting a last exception for these past few days now and at first I thought it was because of WW but I'm pretty sure now it has to do with WP. Here it is: Game Version: 1.113.297.1020, WickedWhims Version: v186.5, MCCC/BMD/NWP, P:5110 S:25 D:4 03/23/25 11:03:11 Traceback (most recent call last): File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\masked\v186.5\zone_tick.py", line 128, in _on_zone_update_event File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\masked\v186.5\zone_tick.py", line 76, in update File ".\WickedWhims_v186.5\wickedwhims\sex\integral\sex_handlers\active_sex\active_sex_handlers.py", line 147, in _update_sex_instances_on_zone_update File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\LL\LL_3_4b\NisaK\utilities\nisa_injector.py", line 25, in _wrapped_function File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\LL\LL_3_4b\NisaK\wickedpervs\sex_detector.py", line 346, in nisa_new_update File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\LL\LL_3_4b\NisaK\utilities\nisa_injector.py", line 17, in protected_original_function File ".\WickedWhims_v186.5\wickedwhims\sex\integral\sex_handlers\active_sex\active_sex_instance_tick.py", line 199, in update File ".\WickedWhims_v186.5\wickedwhims\sex\integral\sex_handlers\active_sex\active_sex_instance_tick.py", line 96, in _update File ".\WickedWhims_v186.5\wickedwhims\sex\integral\sex_handlers\active_sex\active_sex_instance_tick.py", line 709, in update File ".\WickedWhims_v186.5\wickedwhims\sex\integral\sex_handlers\active_sex\active_sex_instance_tick.py", line 665, in is_ready File ".\WickedWhims_v186.5\wickedwhims\sex\integral\sex_handlers\active_sex\helpers\animation.py", line 221, in get_next_sex_animation File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\LL\LL_3_4b\NisaK\utilities\nisa_injector.py", line 25, in _wrapped_function File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\LL\LL_3_4b\NisaK\utilities\ww_overrides\sex\sex_animation_progression\active_sex_helpers.py", line 15, in nisa_find_next_playlist_sex_animation File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\LL\LL_3_4b\NisaK\utilities\ww_overrides\sex\sex_animation_progression\_nisa_find_valid_animations.py", line 22, in nisa_find_valid_animation_in_attached_playlist TypeError: Likely False Positive error for Wicked Perversions occurred, originating from update. Original Error: unsupported operand type(s) for +=: 'range' and 'range'. TurboLib: [TurboLib] Failed to run '_update_sex_instances_on_zone_update' method from 'WickedWhims'. -> TypeError: Likely False Positive error for Wicked Perversions occurred, originating from update. Original Error: unsupported operand type(s) for +=: 'range' and 'range'. Please note, this exception didn't occur in the mod. The mod is unlikely to be the source of the error.

NisaKsPervs

Thank you thank you for the LE!!!! This is an interesting one, it looks like a earlier injection of mine if falsely picking this up as a 'false positive' error because code in the original function was injected into by my function later which did cause the error (the range maths). So it's like injection inception and the first injection error detection wasn't aware of the later injection causing errors. Anyways, you are right. It's me. I see a fix and I'll patch it this week. I'll have to think about how I could detect error inception, but anywho. This happens when you have a looping sex playlist with prostitution sex. So in the meantime just don't use looping sex playlists with prostitution sex. But, like I said, you won't have to wait long. Thank you so much for the error report!!!!

AsTrOpHiLe

Thank you so much for the response and the explanation. I look forward to the patch!

Qewpie

Hi Nisa! I love the mod! Most recently, I am noticing that all of my "employees" are having repeat instances of "Dissatisfied Customer" and the customer refusing to pay - Afterward the option to "Start servicing client" is still available as if it never happened; I complete it a 2nd time, and same thing - Dissatisfied customer and they refuse to pay - It's not logging an error, it's just a dialogue box that pops up each time - All of the associated skills are maxed, and this just started recently happening after this last update :/ Is there anything you can think of that could be an issue? Thanks!

NisaKsPervs

Hmmmm, so I can try to reproduce it, what's the context where this is happening? Keep in mind, sometimes clients will request specific categories. Like oral sex or teasing. If you don't perform in the requested categories, then the 'sex' won't count. I know this isn't ideal, so I'm actually working to do away with this system for a more generalized satisfaction based system. But that may be what's happening. If your prostitute is the player, then you should also be able to click on your sims and check time, that is check how much time has been logged for the current sex job.

Qewpie

Most recently, it was a situation where my player (prostitute) was on a date, She was solicited on the date after being in flirty mood, slow dancing, etc. - I saw the pop up for solicitation and the package requested, and accepted - It went through the full process and at the end I saw the dialogue box say Dissatisfied Client - The subtext said pretty much refusing to pay, But I still had the option available to start servicing client - I did that twice, and got the same results, option to start servicing was still there, and they ended up despising each other LMAO! There have been times I've done it once, and the dissatisfaction leads to despise :/ I was able to grab screen shots of the dialogue boxes - But it goes from hella flirty to not so much real quick lol

Qewpie

Thank you for taking the time to respond! :)

Qewpie

Hi Nisa! Just as an update, I DID play with different household (non-prostitute) and went to my strip club lot to solicit one of the slutted dancers - Solicited the services, and then at the end, the Sim I was playing with did not pay the dancer - No dialogue box - So I am not sure if the dissatisfaction/nonpayment issue is just with Played/Active households. I can see the dancer's earning money at the strip club for solicitation, when I play with main Sim that owns the strip club being there in a non-prostitute capacity - Thank you again! :)

NisaKsPervs

I'm sorry for my tardiness in replying to you. I've been busy recoding literally all my succubus cas code to try to bend heaven and earth to get custom tattoos to work with succubi. Let me just collect a bit more information, it sounds like this is happening on strip club lots specifically? Are all the prostitutes employed on the lot as strippers? Is it happening during club hours?

Qewpie

No apologies needed! I understand completely and appreciate your efforts! My main Sim is a prostitute so wherever she was at and was solicited is where it would occur, and it happened with different customers/worlds. But I had the idea to try with a Sim that wasn't a prostitute to see if it was just the Sim I was playing with as a prostitute or the prostitution altogether, and the only other place where they are gathered collectively (lol) is the strip club - So I had him go there and solicit one of the dancers (all dancers are prostitutes -brothel/bedrooms upstairs in the strip club) and then I noticed when they were done, that he didn't pay - None of the other patrons at the strip club paid either after soliciting slutted dancers

simnovate

Hi Nisa! I've been testing out the escorts part of the WW strip club, and every single day I get a LE for the nonetype on the base_game.py. I've deleted every simulation fix/unclogger, disabled culling, reinstalled basemental/WW/WP and made sure all are up to date, and deleted all cache and it's still happening? Any other ideas? I saw old news about this, but haven't seen anyone else have this issue recently :( Thank you!

NisaKsPervs

Hey Lexi! I'm sorry about the troubles. Could you please send me the latest LE? You can do so using a free, no account needed services such as pastebin.com. Simply copy the text of the LE into the textbox on the page, then hit the 'create a new paste' button and send me the URL of the resulting webpage. No account needed. If you send me the LE, I should get a better idea at what might be going wrong in your game!

NisaKsPervs

Thank you for the LE. This is interesting, it's saying that a job for a situation can't be retrieved for some reason. Usually, I'd expect this to happen because something is interrupting tuning being loaded into your game, but you get no LEs on startup correct? Have you narrowed it down to a specific scenario which causes the above LE? For instance, you said testing out escorts on strip clubs, how are you testing them out? Do you have them employed as a stripper taking jobs autonomously while they are in the charming role or is it some other scenario?

simnovate

I can look tonight when I'm playing after work, but I don't think I get any on startup. I know I don't get any on families who are not involved in the strip club. I've only tested as the owner of the strip club. I don't know which sim is causing the error. It usually happens once the club opens and everyone starts spawning in, and then various times throughout the shift. I've always kept the escorts charming and autonomous. I haven't tried playing as the escorts themselves. Hope this helps a little! Edit: Oh I don't have my sims registered as the rose or whatever the other one was haha. I made the strippers escorts with that slutify cheat, and then just used it that way for spawning the money. The actual escort action + getting paid for it seems to work fine.

NisaKsPervs

Thank ya thank ya for the LE and your support! That's certainly a weird one. As the LE says, I don't think it's coming from WP, but I'm not really sure where it's coming from. It's saying that it can't update your sim's data on a relationship change because a relationship bit is missing for the given track. Are you using any mods with custom relationships, or which override base game relationships? If you are, you could try AB testing by temporarily removing said mod.

Titi

Is your Tam Explorer Debt system active? I can't find it in the game.

Tess

So I can't seem to find any options to change the sex settings back to manual mode like we used to be able to do. When I bring up the settings menu there's no sex settings at all.

NisaKsPervs

Hey again Tess! I hope all is well! Yes, way back in the forever time WW sex location picking was based on objects, and not rooms, which isn't at all how we intuitively search for sex locations. So, I built a lightweight autonomy system specifically for prostitution which would be based on rooms including an option for the WW style searching, and a fully manual mode. WW updated their logic to become room based, making my custom logic redundant so I ended up removing those options entirely. I know some people want the manual control back. I'm finishing up an update with a major change to how sexual boundaries work with prostitution, I'll take a look to see if I can easily add back in the manual control method. Thank you for the feedback and your support!!!

jacqui

Hi , I’m getting a error message on wicked prev

NisaKsPervs

Gib LE please!!!! I'm more than happy to take a look at it and with an LE, i'll better be able to tell you what might be happening in your game! You can do so using a free, no account needed services such as pastebin.com. Simply copy the text of the LE into the textbox on the page, then hit the 'create a new paste' button and send me the URL of the resulting webpage. No account needed. I'm sorry for the trouble!!! Let's get things sorted out!!!

jacqui

have no idea how you dpo the LE BUT HERE IS THE ERROR 2_2_9ca_(4256638963)\NisaK\wickedpervs\main_misc.py Reason [BE Interceptor] BE intercepted this error from a separate mod log so that it can scan for the issue. (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'min_lod_value')

NisaKsPervs

Ah, not the full LE but enough that I can tell you what's happening. You have a mod installed with a custom trait which is out of date or improperly tuned. Keep in mind that more than just custom trait mods can be known to cause this as hidden traits are used for lots of things in various mods. To track down the cause, you'll likely need to do a 50/50 method. First, to verify your sanity. Load into the bugged out game with just WW, WP, and BMD if you use it along with Better Exceptions. Don't save, but verify there is no LE. The easiest way to do this is to rename your current mods folder as something like mods2 and create a new mods folder to copy over the mods you are testing into the new folder. Next, you have a few options, you could copy mods in batches into the new folder until the LE pops up (like starting with your trait mods, like kawaiistacie mods and so forth) until the LE reappears. And narrow it down to the last batch you added in, or place all your mods back, and remove mods until the LE disappears. This is called the 50/50 method and either way works. Just make sure to not save while you are testing your game. As for why my mod shows up in BE, BE just sees my code running in the game in the traceback log and likes to blame me when it has no idea. It's not very sophisticated at interpreting LEs. Unlike TURBO, I don't obscure my code in the traceback log. Likely the injection function shown in main_misc is just performing a passthrough function. Acting like a hook for some features of my mod to attach too, and unrelated to the error. Start with your old trait mods, you'll probably find that one of them is very out of date. Don't hesitate to reach back out if you need more assistance!