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Hey guys! 

A little while ago I ran a poll on what part of my mod you guys wanted me to focus my attention on. Prostitution won with people very vocally asking for sex-autonomy related features when it comes to prostitution. So when I had a lull earlier this month I decided to start working on this in earnest so I’m pleased to announce that the first major step on the road to autonomy has been reached!

The ‘Just Do IT!!!’ update, as the name heavily implies, brings an all new sex auto-start system. Before, when your prostitute solicited a client, got solicited by a client, had a client come visit, etc, you would then have to chose a location for your sim to start sexing and go through the usual WW sex starting steps. With this update your sim, if enabled, will attempt to start sex on their own, bypassing the awkward manually starting WW sex step in the process.  

Worried about the location your prostitute may choose? Want your prostitute to only service clients on the toilet, in bathrooms, in bedrooms, only in public, or just in your special sex dungeon complete with cameras for ‘security’ and definitely not black mail material no way (your prostitute is a good gurl/boi)? Well the other part of the update, the Location Preference System, is going to take care of your naughty story needs. 

The system has 3 categories to consider that can be set globally (via my mod's settings menu) and individually(on the sim) for specific sims. The first category is slutting objects. You know how sims can choose their favorite bed? Well the slutting objects are like this but for sexing. You can click on any object with valid WW sex animations and, through the new sex control menu, you can choose to mark the object as a ‘Slutting Anchor’ or to simply ‘Mark for Slutting.’ 

Setting it as an anchor means that when your sim is looking for a place to have sex, they will consider all objects in the same room as the anchor and choose a valid one for sexing. The next option, the marked object (from Mark for Slutting) will then be looked for if the slutting anchor couldn’t provide a valid sex location or if it’s unset. The marked object need not be the same as an anchor. The sim will try to have sex at the location of the marked object. If that fails then we fallback on your sims specific or global preference settings which comes in two flavors.

The first category that can be set is ‘Search by Room’ which comes in two flavors, bedroom or bathroom. If this category is set then your sim will try to look for the nearest bathroom or bedroom to have sex in. The other category, if set, is search by style. Which uses TURBO’s sex style locations to find a sex location. These come in multiple flavors: All, Public, Outdoor, Risky, Comfort, Privacy, or Nothing and rely on WW to find the sex location. Note however, that if your WW settings have it enabled, then having a child sim on the lot will block sex locations from these styles as being chosen. 

Finally, if no sex location can be found then you will get a notification stating a possible reason as to why where you will still be able to start sex manually or… try to fix the problem that blocked sex, click on the client sim, and then use the new Start Servicing Client(S) or ‘Make a Move’ interaction which will have your prostitute try again to start sex according to their or the global sex location preferences.  

This is rather a big update under the hood. I’ve had to make over 20 new scripts to support the new systems needed to make this possible and I’ve overhauled the prostitution situation system to allow for the new auto sex starting feature. Most will work how you’d imagine with two exceptions. The Escort Date for normal prostitutes will not start sex right away (as you are on a paid ‘date’) so you will need to use the make a move or start servicing client interaction to start sex then. Also the debt visits have been changed. Sometimes the client will start sex immediately with your indebt prostitute but other times they will decide to just wait around for a bit before starting sex. 

But this is only the start for overhauling my prostitution system for sex autonomy. What I’ll be working on next along with a DoEH overhaul, and the new Wicked Succubi release (which was started at the beginning of this month, put on hold while I made this auto-sex starting system, and restarted this week) is overhauling the player client side of prostitution, bringing that system over to the situation based system and the auto-sex starting system. 

Lastly, in addition to some minor hot-fixes, I’ve reorganized my pie menus on sims. I noticed that my mod was starting to add quite a few pie menus to sims so, in order to keep things more organized, I created a new ‘Perversions’ menu (ala WW’s Wicked menu) which will house my sim menus. If there is only 1 pie menu available within the Perversions menu then it’ll replace the Perversions Pie Menu, but if your sim has multiple menus from my mod available (like the piercing manager, the ho control, the new sex control menu, for example) then you will find these menus neatly categorized under the Perversions menu.

Thank you so much for your support last month and into this month! Please let me know if you have any recommendations on how you’d like to see sex autonomy evolve! While I’m working on it is a good time to let me know!  

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Freyya_

Yay! This seems awesome :D I ofc went right into game to try this out, but it seems my Ho control tab is now completely gone, what did I do?! I removed the old files and put in the two new ones, prostitution is still working I think, my Tam browser is still there but I have no Ho control tab on my sim at all :O

Freyya_

Oh no.. Also got an LE, and checked it in the lastexceptionsreader. I think it might be that I haven't updated to the latest ww yet!

Daggett Beaver

I still get an "Accept or Reject" popup. Is that intentional? "Just do it" sounded to me like it would be completely autonomous. Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Daggett Beaver

I think the new tab is "Perversions" or something. Click on that and that should take you to the "Ho Control".

Freyya_

Ty, was looking for that but didn't have it. But once I updated ww it showed up :D

Freyya_

I have a weird problem, but not sure if it's this mod or some other mod that's is creating it. My family I played went to the club, and when they were to go home I ended up in the world chooser saying that I should restart the game since it couldn't load. So I restart the game, and I click my familys house. It's their last name, but the sims are gone! So I went into another family, a girlfriend to my main family who was pregnant with her boyfriend, but suddenly she doesn't know my main family at all! And her baby has no father. I took her to visit my main family and they were not there, all their stuff, photos etc was left behind. Tried moving the family in from my library to "start it all over" and that worked. Until I left that family to play another, then the same thing happened again. I thought it could be just that family, so I went into Summer Holidays house and then out, now she is gone too. I am trying to recreate the LE that happened yesterday (have been trying to solve this for about 18 hours now), when I do, could you take a look at it? I know it said something about a tuner mod but I didn't understand it :s

NisaKsPervs

I don't see such a thing in my game. Is it possible it's a conflict with another adult mod you are using? Could you also tell me what exact situation creates this? Who the player sim is, what sort of prostituting situation, etc.

NisaKsPervs

It sounds like something went wrong in your game. In general, you shouldn't save after you get an LE until you figure out what caused it and if it's safe to ignore. Also when your game freezes up like that, it typically generates a very large 'silent' LE in your mods folder. I hope you'll be able to find the LE that caused this. When you do, please send it over to me via discord or a free service like pastebin. Good luck hunting and thank you for your support!

Daggett Beaver

It happens when my prostitute is dressed slutty and someone solicits her. Up pops a dialog box saying "So-and-so is soliciting for Anal and below (or whatever)." with buttons for "accept" or "reject". My game was bugging out before I installed this update, so I removed all mods except custom sims, basemental, MCCC, WW and then your updated mod. I got this dialog box with just those mods. Since then I've added back a few other mods, but obviously they can't be causing this dialog box.

Pixie

Dont know if this will help but it might not be Nisa's mod, i had a very similar problem but i could follow mine back to simdulgences body parts for WW if i selected them for the sim everything was fine till i saved then once i saved or prob left his lot (never tried that) his picture for his lot and the family would just become unplayable

Kerry Baer

I am not able to find you on discord. I have an LE off the last update.

Kerry Baer

Ver 2.1.4 at Time: 11/03/19 12:16:32 on Windows with WW v146.9 and Basemental 3.10.44.115 Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\patreon\2_1_4\NisaK\utilities\hazard_detector.py", line 40, in wrapper File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\patreon\2_1_4\NisaK\wickedpervs\prostitution.py", line 1260, in store_result_for_outcome File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\patreon\2_1_4\NisaK\wickedpervs\prostitution_situations.py", line 101, in add_to_appropriate_situation File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\patreon\2_1_4\NisaK\utilities\sim_utilities\managers.py", line 122, in add_guest_data_to_situation AttributeError: 'NisaK:situation_ob_whoring' object has no attribute 'sex_request'

Pixie

I did some more fussing around in my test game and realized it wasn't the simdulgence that was causing my glitch but one of the mods from simrealist not sure which one since i just pulled all of them as i hadn't played with em yet they where one of the ones i was using the testing game for lol

NisaKsPervs

Thank you for the LE, it looks like the offer body situation wasn't set up correctly, could this have been a saved situation from the previous update? Can you walk me through the steps I'd need to take to recreate this LE in my game?

NisaKsPervs

Oh, for the slutting outfit situation, this is correct. Since it's a npc sim soliciting your active sim. However, unlike before, when you accept the npc's proposition your sim will try to start sex automatically with them.

Freyya_

Ohh no, I did actually recently add the snb bills mod 🙀 totally forgot about that. Lemme check!

Daggett Beaver

Well, it pauses, first, but okay, at least I know it's intentional. And it's fine, too, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. When I choose the "offer body" approach, everything is automatic, which is very cool.

Kerry Baer

It seems to be just when a certain sim is on the lot. I tried to do the settings for just do it. She is debt. When the LE happens she does not offer. When it does not happen she does not get paid and servicing call just stays up.

NisaKsPervs

so to be clear, this Le is popping up from a debt visit???

Freyya_

And I know I shouldn't save after an LE but they have always been harmless so I was stupid heh This is'nt my main MAIN savefile tho, so it really just will take me like 2 hours to get back to where I was (with mccc, cheat skills and friendships back) I just want to get rid of the bug xD Is this savefile ruined now even if I remove the mod that's doing this? (Gonna try and remove snb bills first and then organic hair, just wondering if I should test in a new savefile or if this file can be saved just not the lost sims)

Kerry Baer

When it pops up yes. It does not occur with every visit with the same sim, no changes but none of the sims are collecting coin when hooking.

Freyya_

Ok so I removed the SnB bills app and have had no problems since :) Ty for your help! And sorry I blamed your mod Nisa ;)

Daggett Beaver

Now that I think about it, perhaps you might think about removing the pause and let the action commence as soon as you click "accept". The pause was good before, because it gave me the opportunity to check what the customer wanted and make sure my hooker did the right deed. But now, the choice of deed is automatic, thus removing the benefit of the pause.

NisaKsPervs

Don't worry about it at all. Happy you got everything working again, feel free to blame me all you want! lol

NisaKsPervs

That's a really interesting suggestion. Full npc prostitute autonomy will be coming but I could see adding a always accept mode to prostitutes for situations where you just want your prostitute to work as a player sim and you aren't particularly fussy as a player on who your played prostitute gets dirty with. I'll add it in when I find the time.

NisaKsPervs

If you are getting any other LEs in addition to the one you received then please send it to me. I had a few more thoughts while I slept last night. Have you gone to your The Sims 4/Mods folder and typed 'nisa' into the upper right search bar, waited a bit, and see if any duplicates of my mod files were accidently installed. You should really only have two files with the name nisa in it. One way the above LE could be generated is if an old mod file is around overriding the updated changes. Another idea is to try clearing your game cache like so: https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/help/cache.php Sometimes when you update a mod, code from a last update will stay around in the cache causing weird shouldn't be happening behaviors like this.

Daggett Beaver

That would be cool as an option, but just removing the game pause after you click Accept would be best, IMO. That way you get to pick or reject your customer, but don't have to click the play button afterwards.

Kerry Baer

I did find an extra perversion package. I deleted it. What about the nisa 9022 broken libido asperation?

Kerry Baer

Deleting the extra file did the trick. Thank you. I will look for that if there is a next time first.

NisaKsPervs

It sounds like you were able to fix it but just in case, that's a super super super old file. I recommend removing all the nisa files from your mods folder and just reinstalling the latest version of the mod.

Eastwick

Could it be possible in the future to be able to have Unplayed or NPC sims on the lot that are registered do their job autonomously and you get your cut as the player? Currently to my knowledge and use it only works on current household sims.

SimplyRod

Hello Nisa, the last update from wicked whims seems not to work with your wicked perversions.

NisaKsPervs

I'm currently overhauling how prostitutes work under the hood for just this sort of gameplay ;) The 'Just Do IT!!!' update being just the start to the changes needed.

NisaKsPervs

Correct, just released a hotpatch as a new post! Thank you for your support!

Anonymous

Hey Nisa! Just wanted to ask: will Succubi be able to be Vampires? Since you mentioned their Orb of Depravity (which should be similar to the Spellcaster Charge Orb) will that mean it will conflict with Vampires' needs? Also, another question: is it possible to make a Prostitute Sim no longer a slave? I accidently set not one, but two of my Sims, because I'm dumb, to have a debt forever, but I'm tired of how rude clients become plus the fact I don't have freedom over their paid sex anymore, hence my question

NisaKsPervs

Hey Mike! If your sim is stuck in debt then the only way is to work off that debt! muahahahahahahhahahahahahaa Or you can use the console command nisa.undebt when the sim is your active sim. nisa.help will list all the commands if you ever forget one but I wouldn't go too crazy with them as most of them were made for development purposes. It may be if you use cheaty methods but officially I'm not going to support hybrids. This is because, unlike most cc occult mods out there, succubi are actually tracked and partly controlled by the game's 'occult tracker.' It's a true occult. I chose to go down this path because I'd like to give succubi a true occult form (ala the dark form for vampires or the tail form for mermaids) in the future. Infact I had a wip post about this a while ago. I got an occult form added to a sim which persisted across saves.... It was just uneditable thanks to some roadblocks maxis has put up. But, as stated, I haven't given up and I have a few ideas in the future on how to get around this dilemma. I hope this helps to clear things up! Thank you for your support!

megg c

is this the newest update from today? I got an email saying it was updated but the links do not match from my email and here :(

megg c

thank you!