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As much as I loved seeing Vilgax back, this felt a little strange as far as how it was handled. I still enjoyed it, but the whole creature collecting portion was misplaced, imo. I know it's purpose was to show Ben the error of his ways, but you know I wanted a slugfest with Vilgax. XD Thoughts?

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Ashhab Imran

And here we enter arguably the most-disliked season in the OG timeline. I'd say I'm someone who doesn't hate it that much, but my personal opinion is with the majority on this one, I'm personally not keen on it

Winterflower13

I hate how they ruined Ben’s character after so longtime of doing him right and mature

Winterflower13

Now unlike I said earlier that Kevin gets coated in armor. Now Kevin skin, flesh, bones and organs are the materials now

Winterflower13

Keep in mind the cyborg vilgax easily defeated 10 years old Diamondhead. But teen diamond head was able to easily defeated conquer Vilgax which they said is stelast 10 times more powerful than cyborg vilgax frontbencher original series.

Winterflower13

One of the conquered world is vilgax own home planet Muray which has been renamed Vilgaxia. Really egotistical but that’s what’s make it funny

Winterflower13

And since the omnitrix broke we’re back to him getting random aliens which I kinda like they brought back, it brings up more suspense and Ben has to be more adaptive

Justice League Unlimited

You might've been warned before but this is where the show gets inconsistent. I believe the creators were forced to make this season feel more like Classic and you can tell instantly by Ben's attitude change and Vilgax returning. Many believe to this day, that starting from season 3 of AF that it went downhill, I disagree because I love all four series so much but it's clearly inconsistent with the quality from this point. I will say that Omniverse is my favorite out of the four series and many people have grew up and have better opinions now but airing, Omniverse was hated soo bad, mainly for it's extreme art style differences from the first three. It's not hated as much now but I do think it's the most hated while ofc Alien Force is considered almost by everyone that it's one of the highest peak of Ben 10. I won't say anything about Ultimate Alien since you are almost there, except that there's no art change between Alien Force and Ultimate Alien so people usually clump them together and call them Ultimate Alien Force. Classic doesn't get much hate or at least not that I'm aware of. I'm sorry if I accidently spoil something, I just wanted you to know the community's thoughts at the moment of airing and currently. Sorry if you rathered to learn this later on. I just wanted to say this as a more neutral person on this before someone else who is more of a hater just spewing hate stuff or have a harsher/more negative explanation.

Joovain 🇫🇮

Vilgax was voiced by Steve Blum in the OG, but now in Alien Force its voiced by James Remar. Im pretty sure Steve Blum was busy during making of Alien Force so he wasnt voicing Vilgax in this.

Joovain 🇫🇮

I personally like this 2-parter. I just can't wait when this season is over and you start Ultimate Alien cause that is amazing.

Joovain 🇫🇮

Wasnt Ultimate Alien originally just Alien Force season 4-6 but they changed it to Ultimate Alien season 1-3?

Zak Webb

Yup they did it to keep the copyright on the name same with omniverse

Justice League Unlimited

I disagree, I never liked the mis transforming even in Classic. If they really wanted to show how skillful Ben can be, they could simply have him choose the alien. It just makes pointless drama that often times just gave a better alien than what he wanted but now I have to see a few moments of complaining from Ben, when I want to see some ass kicking. Some viewers have undermined Ben and the Omnitrix because of this feature. A reactor even said that the Omnitrix sucked and wasn't as powerful because of the mistransformations.

KrakenKing

Season 3 is gonna be pretty rough like this and was the beginning of Ben 10’s notorious issue with executives butting into the writer’s room to force choices that they felt would get better views. A regression in character and other strange choices will be apparent.

Darkus-Arcadian-Dragon

Vilgax has always been a conqueror since his introduction. Ben 10 originally was a kid show they didn’t wanna lean into his conquer worlds and calling people underlings because they thought that wouldn’t be too kid friendly now that they took a more mature vibe with Alien Force they are able to show more of his personality

Darkus-Arcadian-Dragon

Kevin’s new look is actually based off of the DC Superhero Metamorpho he even has the same kind of black undergarments

Darkus-Arcadian-Dragon

Diamond Heads Design isn’t new he fused with Chromastomes shards after vilgax essentially killed him now that they fused together with each other he can use both of their abilities at the same time but Chormastone’s DNA is removed from the Onimtrix as a consequence

Anriku

It's literally a new design. Lol. He looks different.

Anriku

He has all 1mil+ aliens now? I doubt that, bro. He was suppose to have a new set of ten this season but the execs interfered, from what I'm told.

JD Dumas

This was definitely a turning point for the franchise. For better or worse.

demonic-myst

Interesting bit info on why the design changed As saidbefore the original pre calibration omnitrix had glitches and functions turned off well one damaged function wss its clothing aspect so all bens old aliens if able kept bens clothes but now the omnitrix creates clothing and tools for the aliens like goops anti grb device old omnitrix would not be able use goop as it was unabke to make none organic material On this one diomond heads nee look is just that greyish aspect is what clothing on diomond heads planet looked like

demonic-myst

Cannon bolt snd uochuck wee not in original ten they were randomly unlocked , if rumour u heard true may explain inconsistency but i dont think they actually thought through who is actuaky unlocked i think they winging it who ever they want to use snd just using imnitrix is broken as a excuse to not have consistency in unlocks

Marquez Mayes

Remember what Paradox said in season 2. "You're a lot smarter here compared to when I meet you later." He was referring to Ben's shift in personality. Also there's an episode in season 3 that is universally loved you'll know it when you see it

Anriku

I don't think this was planned by the writers at that time. From what I understand, these changes were due to the executives' meddling. If they didn't meddle, would Ben have regressed?

Anriku

I'm definitely not feeling it as much as S1 and S2. It's a shame.

Anriku

Very unfortunate. :(

Anriku

The 2 parter was cool, but some of it was questionable for me.

Anriku

I see. Good old Steve Blum. Shame they couldn't get him back.

Anriku

You're good, man. I can already tell from Episodes 3-6 that it's back to the OG episodic nature and over all vibe. I enjoyed OG, so I'm sure I'll enjoy AF S3, but I can't help being disappointed in this change. I'm staying positive as always and looking forward to Ultimate Alien.

Anriku

I'm not a fan of the mistransformations returning. It was fine when Ben was 10 years old, but we've made so much progress since then. This is a big step back, imo. It'll present some new obstacles for him, sure, but I feel like that could have been done in other ways.

Anriku

I'm not too keen of the changes myself. It's a shame.

JD Dumas

Well, while I agree with you, I think its only fair that you stick it out until the end of S3 before you decide whether or not to react to the remainder of the franchise.

Anriku

Oh, don't worry. I'm finishing it regardless. Unless my enjoyment completely disappears.