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BTAS #2: Ep. 2 + 8 (Patreon)

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2026-05-18 19:00:21
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It's time for BTAS Episodes 2 & 8! Christmas with the Joker was a great introduction to this version of the Joker, and I loved just how chaotic and entertaining he was. The Forgotten was also a really strong episode with some powerful themes and messaging.

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J Man

Oh shoot! I didn't notice that Mark Hamill's first lines in the franchise was the famous "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells" meme song! I can't even remember watching in any sort of specific order anyways.

J Man

But yeah, the birth of the legend. Hamill going from Luke Skywalker to becoming one of the greatest voice actors of all time with his start as Joker.

Anriku

We love to see it 👏

Anriku

Classic! I never knew it came from BTAS. I thought some kids made it up. 🤣

KrakenKing

‘Christmas with the Joker’ is such fun, colorful, and lively episode that really captures that Christmas feeling, and for that I rank it five stars (side note, if a date for Joker’s origin were to be placed, it would be somewhere in the middle to late period of the previous year, 1991). “Mommy Lawful” was Summer Gleeson. She was the reporter who took the interview with the professor in the elevator at the university in ‘Nothing to Fear’. She will be a mainstay side character in the show, appearing in some 30-something episodes, I believe. Still though, I decided to place it first because most later Joker adventures tend to be a bit more serious for one reason or another. Aside from being the second episode ever produced, it also acts as a nice and obvious cap to the short (in terms of adventures) year of 1992. Noting that ‘Christmas with the Joker’ was the second ever produced episode, Mark Hamill still hadn’t truly nailed his Joker voice, which you can hear if you compare this episode to later ones, but the range he has when transitioning between his Joker voice and mimicking others like a TV announcer really goes to show just how robust of a range Hamill had with this character. A little extra fun fact: there exists clips of this episode featuring Tim Curry performing as the Joker before Mark Hamill was chosen instead. It was nice seeing Dick/Robin home for the holidays, trying to show Bruce a little festive join. Sadly, he must go back to school and we won’t be seeing him again until November of 1993, but there will be plenty of happenings in the meantime. The Forgotten is often considered one of the lesser episodes of the series by many, so I’m glad you can appreciate the episode in the same way that I do. It may not have some crazy masked villain, but instead one far more real. The sad reality is that barely anyone cares for “the forgotten”, and that speaks for our world as well. That dream sequence was added into the episode last minute and I’m glad it was. People often try to criticize Bruce, saying “if he’s so rich, why doesn’t he just help everyone in Gotham”, but he does. Wayne Enterprises funds homeless shelters, hospitals, universities, libraries, infrastructure, etc, and Bruce himself is quite literally out helping at a shelter himself in this very episode, but he can’t help everyone, even with all his power. It’s a system that needs total reform, and Bruce just giving everyone money won’t help anyone in the long run. On a less somber note, we see Bruce being a master of disguise for the first time here with a closet full of disguised and makeup, “Matches Malone” indeed being one of them, though he’s more of a street criminal/gangster. “Gaff” seems to be more of a transient/vagrant disguise, which was more appropriate here.

JD Dumas

The Forgotten isn't high on my list of favorite Btas episodes, but I'm glad you enjoyed the more mature themes, since you'll be seeing a lot more of them. While Btas is rightly praised for tackling serious issues, it was still a kids show and as such there was a long list of "No-Go Areas" they had to avoid. One example is the Mafia. They were not allowed to depict Italian Americans as gangsters. This was done at the behest of the Italian American Anti-Defamation League, and I honestly support the decision completely. It's a negative stereotype that shouldn't be taught to children. So, in this version of Gotham, the crime lords often have Anglo-Saxon or Germanic names. Another rule was that they couldn't depict cops or politicians as corrupt. Police or Civic Corruption could be acknowledged or alluded to, but if a cop or politician was onscreen, they had to be clean. They could be depicted as assholes or even incompetent, but they had to be law-abiding. However, the rich and powerful were fair game. In Btas, with the exception of Bruce and his parents, the rich and powerful are usually depicted as one of two extremes. They're either gullible fools who are easy targets for conmen and cult leaders, or greedy, callous, amoral monsters who will do anything to make a buck. In this version of Gotham, the worst criminals don't were costumes or have flashy codenames. They wear suits and ties and say their legal names proudly with cocky smirks. Men like Ferris Boyle, Cameron Kaiser, Daniel Mockridge, and the worst of the worst, Roland Dagget. A man who makes Lex Luthor look like a choirboy by comparison.

JD Dumas

I know you put a lot of time and effort into this DCAU Timeline, but you at least kept the two parters all together, right? I ask because, as I recall, there is a six month gap between Two-Face Part 1 and 2.

KrakenKing

For the most part, yes, with the only exceptions being STAS’s Last Son of Krypton (I put the first part as the very first thing on the timeline chronologically, but obviously he can just watch it as the premier of STAS) and BTAS’s Two-Face. As there is indeed a six month time gap between the two parts, I worked an acceptable amount of episodes between the two parts based on my criteria for timeframe and seasons. My general rule of thumb was that you could fit at most four adventures into a month for Batman.

KrakenKing

In terms of the placement of the Two-Face two-parter, the separation will go as follows: - Two-Face, Part I - It’s Never Too Late - I’ve Got Batman in My Basement - The Cat and the Claw, Part I - The Cat and the Claw, Part II - Heart of Ice - See No Evil - Beware the Grey Ghost - Prophecy of Doom - Eternal Youth - Vendetta - Appointment in Crime Alley - Feat of Clay, Part I - Feat of Clay, Part II - Two-Face, Part II I would love to share my full timeline with you, if you wish.

JD Dumas

Don't you think you're taking this Chronology thing too far? I mean, I know Two Face wasn't originally written as a two parter, but the episodes work better when you watch them back to back.

KrakenKing

I think I’ve done a pretty great job, actually. 😀

JD Dumas

Sorry, if that came off as rude.

Anriku

Interesting dynamic for this show, I suppose. On one hand, it's nice they didn't stereotype Italian Americans, but on the other, corruption is widespread in law enforcement. I do find it cool that the big bads are just unpowered scum of society.

KrakenKing

Don’t forget the notorious Rupert Thorne!

KrakenKing

Yeah the whole thing with law enforcement being not being allowed to be corrupt was pretty lame at the time, although I’ll admit that it makes the few times where someone is a bad apple more impactful, even if they’re the exception, not the rule. A lot of people tend to think that Harvey Bullock is a corrupt cop, but for most of his character history he’s actually probably one of the most trustworthy cops in Gotham, even if he’s a bit of a brute.

KrakenKing

If it makes you feel any better, I watched through my own order to make sure everything is good. If anything, I found myself worrying just as much as Bruce was by the time of Part 2.

JD Dumas

In all fairness, it's not like the treat corruption like something that doesn't exist. They're plenty of references to cops being on the take and judges throwing out cases for seemingly no good reason. It's just that none of these unscrupulous people are shown on screen.

JD Dumas

Oh, I could never forget Thorne and his delightfully punchable face, I just left him off the list since in this version he's a straight up crime boss, not just a corrupt business man.

JD Dumas

To be fair, in his earliest comic appearances, Bullock was a crooked cop. In fact, he was a plant put in the GCPD to undermine Gordon. But when one of his attempts at sabotage put Gordon in the hospital, Bullock had a change of heart and became the loyal, gangbusting meathead we know today.

JD Dumas

I'm sure it'll be fine.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Sorry to break this to you, but the song comes from the 1960's. Some kids did, in fact, make it up. BTAS just used it, bit it was already a thing.